lee can you please play the gr7 or av8b at the 11.7 br aim-9ms and the matchmaker is quite good i mostly get 11.0 games and sometimes 10.7 where i can dunk on f5e's with aim9ms and the Harrier II models are actually quite agile they can pull 13G sustained sometimes (although bleed speed) they can still be manipulated with thrust vectoring. And finally the harrier gr7 has 700 flares at 11.7.... the av8b has around 200 whic is still insane for the br
@OumuamuaOumuamua F-5 has a much much better flight model than the Harriers. Not to mention I don't see complaining about a flareless 9.3 or 9.7 fighting the F-5's
It feels really satisfying to watch the aim7 speed up slowly burning its whole way to a target instead of zooming out and flaming out in a few seconds (although it does suffer from slow acceleration)
I kinda disagree, AAM-3 should be added to EJ kai, as with the R-73 on Floggers, WT is IRL accurate to gadgets and mechanics and weapons. Although some weapons do get balancing changes. Cough* the F-100F in chinese tree should get AIM-9Ps cus it had them IRL but doesn't ingame cus of balance. I hate that. This is why I would like Gaijin to add it in the roadmap to make a dynamic BR system. Depenind on your loadout and stock-spade performance you will be matched accordingly.
I've been playing a lot of the Harrier GR.7 at 11.7 and that is a sneaky little plane. You have a good amount of flares and 4 AIM-9Ms. Most people aren't expecting to get hit by missiles they can't see
@@GeneralLee2000 the missile must have already pulled enough lead and was simply flying towards the guy such that the seeker was mostly pointing forward and the guy must have not moved enough so the seeker probably reverted to pointing directly forward it was still able to re aquire
11.7 is really great right now. I have been enjoying the Mirage 2000. From my experience as well the sparrows are just doing their own thing lately. I had on example of a mig29 afk flying at like 2000 meters, fired 3 7m's at him coming towards me and all 3 flew into the ground.
Liked before I watched, knew you'd speak highly of this one. It really is a precious plane. For it's BR the EJ Kai with F-16 radar (which somehow isn't as wonky) lends itself unexpectedly well to aggressive charges like what we all saw Lee doing here, it's not an anomaly.
I got a taste of the EJ Kai via the Kurnass 2000 in the configuration that it originally released in with an F-16esque radar, sparrows and 9Ls. Truly a joy to play, definitely still an amazing plane now with 6 pythons at 11.3, but a completely different playstyle for sure. I don’t miss it enough to grind the entire Japanese tree for what will only ever really amount to copy paste planes and then the F-2 “eventually” though 😂
The main reason F-4S players are not too competitive in air RB comes down to the fact, that the plane is used for grinding. And unfortunately the most reliable way of grinding XP and SL is just bombing bases. So why even bother trying to get kills, when it's inconsistent and doesn't actually compete farmwise with ground pounding?
I was initially rather disappointed to find out that EJ Kai didn't get the AAM-3s back when the F-15J first dropped. In hindsight that's probably for the best since it'll get uptiered if it DID get them EDIT : lmao haven't reached the 2nd half of the vid when i wrote the comment, jinxed
what makes this jet scarier is that half its kit isn't even in the game (all be it I kinda don't want them added for a long time as its br will definitely increase), from what I can tell it's supposed to be able to carry alot more ground ordinance, aam-3s and possibly 4s and 5s (as this jet wasn't retired till literally last year)
@@GeneralLee2000 knowing gaijin and knowing that Japan doesn't really have much left to add other than prototypes/testbeds, trainers/tandem seat jets, variants of aircraft already In the game (possibly proposed export jets similar to the f-16aj) and 2 heavy hitters (f-2 and f-35j) I think they'll probably only get new rank premiums and possibly a squadron Vic (even doh i hate that idea) it only makes sense since we're definitely getting to atleast rank 10 in air imo
@@ymroo8299 yer, but I feel like either the mig 21 or f-16 will probably get it first since they both can also get pods and the mig-21s is already modded
Flares & chaff are somewhat limited in the game. IRL they were improved just like missiles. Maybe not at a similar pace, but still flares used in 1980's are not the same as flares from 1960's. So in theory advanced seeker head on high-g missile shouldn't mean 100% kill rate.
So Lee, around 2~3 months ago, I was grinding the Netz, and while test flying it (test flying is half the grind 🤫) I was able to switch radar lock type while locked. So it’s been on the F16 for at least two and a halfish months
So Lee, around 2~3 months ago, I was grinding the Netz, and while test flying it (test flying is half the grind 🤫) I was able to switch radar lock type while locked. So it’s been on the F16 for at least two and a halfish months
One thing i did suggest to my friend one time is the idea of the BR changing depending on equipment selection. altho it'll be a lot of work I bet. I love the EJ Kai, my favourite aircraft honestly. and I would like the AAM-3 on it (plus other things that it is capable of carrying). But I know that the BR would increase doing so. I was thinking, maybe say, 11.7 with current kit and 12.0 for when AAM-3 is selected kinda thing. say if you want to challenge yourself. I personally like the idea but idk, i would like to ask for your and others opinions. But yeah, just a suggestion/thought. Not sure if others have already thought of this or not ps. this was originally a reply to someone else, but I decided to just do a direct comment instead.
It's been brought up quite a lot, it would be both hard to implement and easy to abuse, and would also make it more difficult to know what the enemy is using. Probably more trouble than it's worth but who knows
You say you are not a fan of strong Missels on old Airframes. Then what are you think about the German Phantom ICE with AMRAAMs??? Maybe Gajin impliments a new EJ Kai wit AMM-3.
Even if the matchmaker is better I would still prefer the f-14 just because of its maneuverability. half of my kills in it are gun kills which isn't very feasible if you're flying a brick. P.S. Instead of saying 1st stage afterburner just say halfterburner, it's a lot quicker.
BR9+ realistic:16v16 only the large maps. 100 tickets per team .3 runways per team. Two runways are fighter spawns and fighters are distributed evenly on opposite sides of the map. The middle runway is for strike aircraft, 4 per team. They must carry a strike load preset; planes such as jas37 may carry fighter load outs and spawn as fighters. The strike planes role is to destroy several marked SAM sites across the map. 7 minutes into the game,AI strategic bombers (5)will spawn. If SAM sights remain, the AI will be destroyed. If they destroy the enemy base they lose 50 tickets. Each enemy fighter or strike plane lost loses the enemy 2 tickets. Each bomber destroyed loses 4 tickets. For victory enemy must reach 0 tickets(1 base destroyed, 5 bombers killed, 15 enemy planes destroyed or some other combination. Or, all player aircraft must be destroyed. Players have 1 respawn until the 10th minutes into the game at which point respawn is disabled. Strike fighters should respawn as interceptors is SAM sights still remain in order to destroy enemy bombers. Fighters may only enter the strike plane sectors once 3 enemy fighters are destroyed in their sector to stop strike planes being instantly killed.
I hope gaijin add AAM-3 & AIM-7E replace by AIM-7M on F-4EJ KAI with expand to 12.0 this quarter, but short-range Air-to-Air Missile stock should be 2x AIM-9L instead AIM-9P
If you can harness the F4E's power, vs the F4S, and, to a degree, the 23ML, it truly is your best jet. 11.7 sounds like F-14A, and if we keep to that strictly (just to keep it shorter'ish) at that BR you meet the Mirage CS5 and J8F almost by default. I've used the Mirage CS5 to grind the Mirage 4000 for some days now. Based on that, it has the Matra (Dorito missile), and the scary thing there is it also has a very good radar. Even when you go super low, the Dorito still has a good chance to knock you out, always get your radar missile off faster than the Mirage, ALWAYS. Further, the Mirage has the Magic 2 which I call "TADAAAA" because with it's IRCCM it's very hard to flare and if you don't pay attention will really live up to it's name and make you disappear. It's just that one plane you don't wanna be in front of. Also be careful trying to gun run Mirage's, they are delta wings and can easily make you overshoot, whatever you do you DO NOT want to overshoot in front of him, he has 30mm DEFA's and Magic 2's. J8F I have no experience with (yet), but it has HMD, Chinese Magic's and some really whacky Radar missiles as well, at the very least I would treat it with a healthy dose of respect. Meaning, first and most cowardly chance you get to knock one outta the fight, do it.
@@FrozenFrostix So, still a very good chance that the F-2 will come with the new top tiers, AAM4A's are being added and projected to be the best fox 3 if modeled correctly, and AAM3's are still functioning in a limited capacity with no buff.
@@GeneralLee2000 truly lol, I just despise current top tier so much that I might not touch the F15 lol. Its hard enough to get the energy to fly out my F16, having to deal with 3 aim9Ms the second I make contact is such a joy with 12.0 jets.
lee can you please play the gr7 or av8b at the 11.7 br aim-9ms and the matchmaker is quite good i mostly get 11.0 games and sometimes 10.7 where i can dunk on f5e's with aim9ms
and the Harrier II models are actually quite agile they can pull 13G sustained sometimes (although bleed speed) they can still be manipulated with thrust vectoring. And finally the harrier gr7 has 700 flares at 11.7.... the av8b has around 200 whic is still insane for the br
I'll definitely consider it!
Should have been moved up to 12.0, F5Es facing 9ms bit silly
@@OumuamuaOumuamua f-5e should be 11.0
@@-..----.--.-... F5E facing 9ms, any 11.0 facing 9ms still silly
@OumuamuaOumuamua F-5 has a much much better flight model than the Harriers. Not to mention I don't see complaining about a flareless 9.3 or 9.7 fighting the F-5's
The AIM-7 Sparrow: The true gambler's missile
It feels really satisfying to watch the aim7 speed up slowly burning its whole way to a target instead of zooming out and flaming out in a few seconds (although it does suffer from slow acceleration)
Mad respect for using defyn decal
I would be ok with an F-4EJ Kai (L) with AAM-3. That'd be a fun weirdo plane, either tech tree foldered, or as an event vehicle.
I kinda disagree, AAM-3 should be added to EJ kai, as with the R-73 on Floggers, WT is IRL accurate to gadgets and mechanics and weapons. Although some weapons do get balancing changes. Cough* the F-100F in chinese tree should get AIM-9Ps cus it had them IRL but doesn't ingame cus of balance. I hate that. This is why I would like Gaijin to add it in the roadmap to make a dynamic BR system. Depenind on your loadout and stock-spade performance you will be matched accordingly.
I've been playing a lot of the Harrier GR.7 at 11.7 and that is a sneaky little plane. You have a good amount of flares and 4 AIM-9Ms. Most people aren't expecting to get hit by missiles they can't see
"good amount of flares" is quite the understatement. That thing has about 2 metric fuck-tons of flares
Just too bad the flight performance is so low
@GeneralLee2000 sure you aren't the fastest, but I feel like a lot of people underestimate it because of that and think you are an easy kill
Who is out here underestimating a harrier
@thatoneguy1741 everyone who sees it as just a subsonic attack jet.
Anyone else having trouble logging in war thunder
cant log in same
@@emre.0732 alr
They put out a note saying servers are down
0:42 did that 9L keep tracking as the other guy flew behind a building 💀
Why yes, yes it did.
@@GeneralLee2000 the missile must have already pulled enough lead and was simply flying towards the guy such that the seeker was mostly pointing forward and the guy must have not moved enough so the seeker probably reverted to pointing directly forward it was still able to re aquire
11.7 is really great right now. I have been enjoying the Mirage 2000.
From my experience as well the sparrows are just doing their own thing lately. I had on example of a mig29 afk flying at like 2000 meters, fired 3 7m's at him coming towards me and all 3 flew into the ground.
Mine fly upwards 90°
Liked before I watched, knew you'd speak highly of this one. It really is a precious plane.
For it's BR the EJ Kai with F-16 radar (which somehow isn't as wonky) lends itself unexpectedly well to aggressive charges like what we all saw Lee doing here, it's not an anomaly.
I got a taste of the EJ Kai via the Kurnass 2000 in the configuration that it originally released in with an F-16esque radar, sparrows and 9Ls. Truly a joy to play, definitely still an amazing plane now with 6 pythons at 11.3, but a completely different playstyle for sure. I don’t miss it enough to grind the entire Japanese tree for what will only ever really amount to copy paste planes and then the F-2 “eventually” though 😂
The main reason F-4S players are not too competitive in air RB comes down to the fact, that the plane is used for grinding. And unfortunately the most reliable way of grinding XP and SL is just bombing bases. So why even bother trying to get kills, when it's inconsistent and doesn't actually compete farmwise with ground pounding?
I was initially rather disappointed to find out that EJ Kai didn't get the AAM-3s back when the F-15J first dropped. In hindsight that's probably for the best since it'll get uptiered if it DID get them
EDIT : lmao haven't reached the 2nd half of the vid when i wrote the comment, jinxed
Hahaha, well aint that something
what makes this jet scarier is that half its kit isn't even in the game (all be it I kinda don't want them added for a long time as its br will definitely increase), from what I can tell it's supposed to be able to carry alot more ground ordinance, aam-3s and possibly 4s and 5s (as this jet wasn't retired till literally last year)
AAM-3s yes, 4s and 5s no. There was one testbed that carried AAM-4 though, so possibly an event vehicle or prem in the future?
It should've been the first to have atleast ingame an ECM pod
@@GeneralLee2000 knowing gaijin and knowing that Japan doesn't really have much left to add other than prototypes/testbeds, trainers/tandem seat jets, variants of aircraft already In the game (possibly proposed export jets similar to the f-16aj) and 2 heavy hitters (f-2 and f-35j) I think they'll probably only get new rank premiums and possibly a squadron Vic (even doh i hate that idea) it only makes sense since we're definitely getting to atleast rank 10 in air imo
@@ymroo8299 yer, but I feel like either the mig 21 or f-16 will probably get it first since they both can also get pods and the mig-21s is already modded
@General Lee why arent my game modes loading ?
same here
servers are down not working for me either
Either servers are down or your ISP is having issues
Servers were down, now they’re back
Flares & chaff are somewhat limited in the game. IRL they were improved just like missiles. Maybe not at a similar pace, but still flares used in 1980's are not the same as flares from 1960's. So in theory advanced seeker head on high-g missile shouldn't mean 100% kill rate.
So Lee, around 2~3 months ago, I was grinding the Netz, and while test flying it (test flying is half the grind 🤫) I was able to switch radar lock type while locked. So it’s been on the F16 for at least two and a halfish months
Sim players hearing about a potential buff to invisible missiles /̵/’̿̿ ̿ ̿ ̿ ̿ (ʘ‿ʘ)
Hahahaha, yeah I feel so bad for you 😆
So Lee, around 2~3 months ago, I was grinding the Netz, and while test flying it (test flying is half the grind 🤫) I was able to switch radar lock type while locked. So it’s been on the F16 for at least two and a halfish months
I know it's been a bit, but couldn't remember when they did it
Also, as I’m watching the video, why are you missing certain pieces of your aircraft? 🤔 4:30
@@batlax18 I fumbled the flaps button and they all ripped off lol
@@GeneralLee2000 we’ve all done it at some point 😂
Japanese matchmaking is goated. Maybe I should spade my EJ Kai?
Definitely should, it's a big W
The EJ kai is one of my favorite planes in the game is realy fun every game i play i get more kills than the f15s
One thing i did suggest to my friend one time is the idea of the BR changing depending on equipment selection. altho it'll be a lot of work I bet. I love the EJ Kai, my favourite aircraft honestly. and I would like the AAM-3 on it (plus other things that it is capable of carrying). But I know that the BR would increase doing so. I was thinking, maybe say, 11.7 with current kit and 12.0 for when AAM-3 is selected kinda thing. say if you want to challenge yourself. I personally like the idea but idk, i would like to ask for your and others opinions. But yeah, just a suggestion/thought. Not sure if others have already thought of this or not
ps. this was originally a reply to someone else, but I decided to just do a direct comment instead.
It's been brought up quite a lot, it would be both hard to implement and easy to abuse, and would also make it more difficult to know what the enemy is using. Probably more trouble than it's worth but who knows
as an owner of an F-4J, you cannot overstate how much I wish I had a 9L every single godforsaken battle instead of the shitty 9Hs
Being a US player, I’m very excited to try out the F-14A Tomcat again!
IT'S SO BASED
You say you are not a fan of strong Missels on old Airframes. Then what are you think about the German Phantom ICE with AMRAAMs??? Maybe Gajin impliments a new EJ Kai wit AMM-3.
No way they actually passed this bag report, that gonna be huge
Could you do a review on the MIG-21 SPK-K, since it's now 9.7 and i don't see anyone making a guide on how to use it
I've been considering it :)
need to prop up them R27ERs so cant have Aim7s being reliable.
Even if the matchmaker is better I would still prefer the f-14 just because of its maneuverability. half of my kills in it are gun kills which isn't very feasible if you're flying a brick.
P.S. Instead of saying 1st stage afterburner just say halfterburner, it's a lot quicker.
Problem with saying hafterburner is ppl will often mis hear it as afterburner
@@TyphoonThunder2.0but halfterburner is funnier
Me and my friend were in this video in the match at 4:30
I was the Su-25BM
:) ❤
Say hello youtube!!! 😆
I grinder top tier America with f4s and I’m PISSED Japan gets aim9Ls and we dont
Actually it's a missile bus because it has 8 missiles and is a bus!
WOW, so original!
BR9+ realistic:16v16 only the large maps. 100 tickets per team .3 runways per team. Two runways are fighter spawns and fighters are distributed evenly on opposite sides of the map. The middle runway is for strike aircraft, 4 per team. They must carry a strike load preset; planes such as jas37 may carry fighter load outs and spawn as fighters. The strike planes role is to destroy several marked SAM sites across the map. 7 minutes into the game,AI strategic bombers (5)will spawn. If SAM sights remain, the AI will be destroyed. If they destroy the enemy base they lose 50 tickets. Each enemy fighter or strike plane lost loses the enemy 2 tickets. Each bomber destroyed loses 4 tickets. For victory enemy must reach 0 tickets(1 base destroyed, 5 bombers killed, 15 enemy planes destroyed or some other combination. Or, all player aircraft must be destroyed. Players have 1 respawn until the 10th minutes into the game at which point respawn is disabled. Strike fighters should respawn as interceptors is SAM sights still remain in order to destroy enemy bombers. Fighters may only enter the strike plane sectors once 3 enemy fighters are destroyed in their sector to stop strike planes being instantly killed.
11.7 is a great br to play if you're not a america main, because is PAINFUL to play with those f4s players
i was the draken in the second to last match (that did horrible) ! :D
and soon the f4f ice with the f18 radar will come to the game
Should rlly get the AIM-7M’s since it’s one of the few phantoms with pulse doppler
Aim7ms are identical to aim7fs ingame
if the AAM-3 gets its real seeker, it will basically be a 9m37m (Strela missile) in ARB
Think you'll do any Italian planes anytime soon?
small question: do you take the fuel tank?
No way, is the EJ Kai playable again??
Way
@@GeneralLee2000 I used to pray for times like this 🙏🙏
I hate how the American f4s are kinda trash
I hate how the American f4s are kinda trash
Do I want it? yes. Do I want to grind Japan? no.
So 11.7 can’t see 12.7?
It theoretically can, but it basically doesn't.
Japanese phantoms are so good looking 😍😍
I hope gaijin add AAM-3 & AIM-7E replace by AIM-7M on F-4EJ KAI with expand to 12.0 this quarter, but short-range Air-to-Air Missile stock should be 2x AIM-9L instead AIM-9P
A F4 at 12.0? Heck no
Fighting Falcon*. Vipers are F-16Vs, so it'd be a apg-83. That would be broken if that was implemented lol
From what I've heard, ever since the f16 came out they called them vipers, as a nod to the dodge viper...
My best jet is the f4E, any tips for when I get up to 11.7?
Radar becomes a huge factor. Watch out.
If you can harness the F4E's power, vs the F4S, and, to a degree, the 23ML, it truly is your best jet.
11.7 sounds like F-14A, and if we keep to that strictly (just to keep it shorter'ish) at that BR you meet the Mirage CS5 and J8F almost by default.
I've used the Mirage CS5 to grind the Mirage 4000 for some days now. Based on that, it has the Matra (Dorito missile), and the scary thing there is it also has a very good radar. Even when you go super low, the Dorito still has a good chance to knock you out, always get your radar missile off faster than the Mirage, ALWAYS.
Further, the Mirage has the Magic 2 which I call "TADAAAA" because with it's IRCCM it's very hard to flare and if you don't pay attention will really live up to it's name and make you disappear.
It's just that one plane you don't wanna be in front of.
Also be careful trying to gun run Mirage's, they are delta wings and can easily make you overshoot, whatever you do you DO NOT want to overshoot in front of him, he has 30mm DEFA's and Magic 2's.
J8F I have no experience with (yet), but it has HMD, Chinese Magic's and some really whacky Radar missiles as well, at the very least I would treat it with a healthy dose of respect.
Meaning, first and most cowardly chance you get to knock one outta the fight, do it.
when its the F-2's turn to come out they will buff AAM3's so they wont have to add the broken AAM4's (especially paired with that juicy radar.)
So... how did that prediction go for ya
@@FrozenFrostix So, still a very good chance that the F-2 will come with the new top tiers, AAM4A's are being added and projected to be the best fox 3 if modeled correctly, and AAM3's are still functioning in a limited capacity with no buff.
always nice to see a new General Lee vid dropped when I get off work :)
more like the dad of f-16
I'm only 200k away from the EJ Kai, using my F-16AJ to do it.
Then F-15J gaming
@@GeneralLee2000 truly lol, I just despise current top tier so much that I might not touch the F15 lol. Its hard enough to get the energy to fly out my F16, having to deal with 3 aim9Ms the second I make contact is such a joy with 12.0 jets.
FFS друг мой, отличный обзор. Продолжай. У тебя талант!
Hey General Lee how do you do that maneuver at 7:40 - 7:44?
gaijin, please rename this phantom to lil'viper
SO REAL
I remember when this thing just absolutely stomped i don’t remember what else was competitive at the time but ofc I remember the ej kai
Does anyone knows how much performace you lose on F-4J,if you take the gun pod?In procentage.....
Percentage sounds a bit "German", but vs non-gunpod F-4's, in a pitched fight, it's noticeable.
sure cant wait for an F4F ICE
what about the F4F ICE with IRIS-T its one of the main features of that plane
It can use AMRAAM and AIM-9L/i instead 😆. IRIS-T was a late addition
Wassup lee?
Yo wassup!
So thats why you were flying the EJ Kai when I saw you in a game last night
Indeed!
To the people who say first
Hahahahaha
ty
First 😏
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To the people who say first
Hahahaha
Love the phantoms
We love the F-4