He's being an evasive politician about it but Friedman knows Miller got benched for lazy defensive effort and then rage-quit. Even if there were other factors involved in the rage-quit it's pretty obvious. I wish him well but I won't miss his pouting and drooped shoulders and him barking at his teammates.
@@phillytheflyerable clearly you did enough to go post that. That takes actual effort. If you didn't care, you wouldn't have gone to the comment section, scrolled down to that comment, opened that comment thread, and then posted " no one cares " . You would have just kept going. Sounds like a Liberal.
I agree with Elliot, Canucks defence is definitely improved. But once again, we're being fed more BS hockey media hype about Petterson. I know guys like Elliot can't really say what the fans can say --- Petterson is just a passenger dragging down the team with his huge contract, by totally failing to live up to the huge expectations. Excuses and wishful thinking and promises "he's going to get back to his game" etc. don't cut it. Until he gets up into the true elite franchise superstar/team leader status like Quinn Hughes, and proves he's worth it, then the pressure from the fans will get worse. Because the fans aren't stupid and they know what they're seeing and paying for.
Everybody acting like petterson is the next Louis Erickson or OEL. Petey is young and has time to turn things around. He may not be on the 100 point pace, but he is 4th in points and only 1 point back of being second on the team. Not making excuses, he needs to be better. And I think I would be ok if they traded him, BEFORE July 1 and after the regular season. He put up 15 pts in the 10 games without miller, he has time to let the league know that he can still be that 100 pt player we in vancouver absolutely fawned over.
The Canucks made chicken salad out of chicken crap. Obviously, they weren't getting market value for Miller, but they needed to move on from the drama and they got rid of the guy in the middle of 2 separate but related locker room problems. And Chytil and Marcus P look good. I know people will make this about Pettersson, but he has to stop being so gun shy. As someone who has been bullied all my life, I get it. You almost shut down. But the guy is gone, he should have a good support network now, and it's up to him to figure out how to get his game back. Teams have scouted him better, so that's part of it, but great players find ways. I just don't like all the vitriol against a bullied person. I'm disabled. I've been called "soft" before. Fake tough guys will never get it.
Weak and slow shot in overtime. Was there in person had the best view for the ot shot by pettersson. Don’t think they showed a replay on tv and it’s hard to see live but the shot was so slow, high and to the left of the goalie. It was so bad
He's not exactly lighting it up right now unfortunately. I think they'll sign him though even though Dhali said his agent told him they've had "zero talks" as of yet
Rick: "There was so much noise in Vancouver" - he must have been listening to his own voice. Things might have been messy for the players in the Canucks locker room but the media has been making it so much worse. Especially Rick.
i'm trying to figure what part of juulsen's game is it that has tocchet going back to that well time and time again. his numbers are hideous. dash 1 on a low scoring game again last night. i'm sure everybody would have liked to see mancini. big kid good skater. petie just isn't anywhere near where he was 1 year ago when he just imploded. i hope he's the next order of business. give him a fresh start.
I'm happy about the trade, paying Miller $8m until he was 38 was never going to benefit this team long term and i never agreed with the term to begin with. Every year JT get's older the less his value is, his production WILL drop off in the coming years. JT wanted out too, this is clear - the team had to do it now, and they were not in a beneficial position as other teams knew this. Imagine if we would have re-signed Lindholm long term too? This team would be handcuffed, not to mention Lindholm has been bad since he left and at $7.75 at 7 years....no thanks - dodged a bullet.
@@HarrisonHollers Sure is, doesn't change the fact that 35/36 year old Miller would not be worth anywhere near $8M a year. They can use that money elsewhere on younger, faster players. "The cap is going up so we can overpay older players" argument doesn't sit well with me.
@@norrislaitinen5011 Hardest working guy on the team?!?!?! Oh boy, you mean when he's not invisible and being benched for not backchecking? Or how about when he coughed the puck up his second last game and gave up on checking the guy on the breakaway and watched instead? JT was AT TIMES one of the hardest working....but when he wasn't....he sure wasn't. JT and his agent wanted a fresh start, the team did what they had to do. I can name at least 5 players who are harder working and more consistent than JT.
@@bigamigo4863 $8M is going to be a mid level contract when the ceiling is raised $30M. A team this offseason will pay $14 million for 7 seasons. He will be 29 at the start of next season. He’s a winger. Miller is a Center; more valuable. Make your own conclusions.
Speak for yourself some of us Canucks fans actually understand Miller was a cancer in the room and needed to go. Real fans see this move as a good thing you don't trade a 26 year old kid and keep a 32 year old guy who is declining in his skill set. Miller won't get near being a 100 point guy again. Petey will be a 100 point guy again .
Sadly, Petey hasn't done much in the past year, he also looks disinterested most of the time. I doubt any team was really interested in him with his big contract.
Bunch of armchair GMs whining about losing Miller. This was clearly a good series of moves for the org given the situation Keep in mind they've been extremely unlucky with injuries this year
Huge mistake to trade Miller and not Petterson. Miller was able to push the team, is good at PP, PK, OT and F/O. He more or less neutralized McDavid which enabled the team to win. Can't remember when I have seen anything coming close to that from Petterson, but remember his negativity and non existent self confidence. He is hugely overpaid; the Canucks tried to help him over and over with different linemates. Nothing helped.
Heart and Soul guy gone.😮😮JT. There's guys on my Div 1 beer Hockey that did not get along at late night Hockey...but still showed up to play. Not easy being a Canucks fan. Maybe bring Mc David later in his career like Sundin and Messier😮😮
@@jasonjansen9831 No....Not even close....Just saying we pay to play even if we don't get along...Ha Ha...There have been many NHL Teams that one Cups with guys that did not get along...Obviously it would be better if they did....But no not comparing....There has been some good news for British Columbians...lots of fresh snow for skiing and snowboarding
For a guy that just had to get outta town the players on the team looked dejected as fuck. Like he’s so toxic right but Hughes looked like he was gonna cry
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Can we call Marcus Petterson .mp3?
Done!
Lol! Love it!
Perfect
I had Mo Pete but either one is fine with me
dragon.
He's being an evasive politician about it but Friedman knows Miller got benched for lazy defensive effort and then rage-quit. Even if there were other factors involved in the rage-quit it's pretty obvious. I wish him well but I won't miss his pouting and drooped shoulders and him barking at his teammates.
How do you know that? I hate rumours. What’s your source?
Personally i would have kept Miller (a Tocchet type player) and would traded Pettersson for Tage Thompson.
Exactly. The perfect trade for both teams.
No one cares
Dream on, Sabres aren't trading Tage Thompson for Pettersson
@@phillytheflyerable clearly you did enough to go post that. That takes actual effort. If you didn't care, you wouldn't have gone to the comment section, scrolled down to that comment, opened that comment thread, and then posted " no one cares " . You would have just kept going. Sounds like a Liberal.
@@CamiloMoscoso-q5wI would have traded him for Connor McDavid
I agree with Elliot, Canucks defence is definitely improved. But once again, we're being fed more BS hockey media hype about Petterson. I know guys like Elliot can't really say what the fans can say --- Petterson is just a passenger dragging down the team with his huge contract, by totally failing to live up to the huge expectations. Excuses and wishful thinking and promises "he's going to get back to his game" etc. don't cut it. Until he gets up into the true elite franchise superstar/team leader status like Quinn Hughes, and proves he's worth it, then the pressure from the fans will get worse. Because the fans aren't stupid and they know what they're seeing and paying for.
I absolutely agree with your take. And I agree that Petey’s contract and performance are holding them back.
They need to spend the Miller/Petey
Pardon; contract money on Canadian players. Lots of effective Canadian free agents.
Blablabla bla
Everybody acting like petterson is the next Louis Erickson or OEL. Petey is young and has time to turn things around. He may not be on the 100 point pace, but he is 4th in points and only 1 point back of being second on the team. Not making excuses, he needs to be better. And I think I would be ok if they traded him, BEFORE July 1 and after the regular season. He put up 15 pts in the 10 games without miller, he has time to let the league know that he can still be that 100 pt player we in vancouver absolutely fawned over.
He's now in the 160's in goal scoring while 5th in pay.....
The Canucks made chicken salad out of chicken crap. Obviously, they weren't getting market value for Miller, but they needed to move on from the drama and they got rid of the guy in the middle of 2 separate but related locker room problems. And Chytil and Marcus P look good. I know people will make this about Pettersson, but he has to stop being so gun shy. As someone who has been bullied all my life, I get it. You almost shut down. But the guy is gone, he should have a good support network now, and it's up to him to figure out how to get his game back. Teams have scouted him better, so that's part of it, but great players find ways. I just don't like all the vitriol against a bullied person. I'm disabled. I've been called "soft" before. Fake tough guys will never get it.
Miller's gone and 11.6 tendinitis still a no show
he will be gone soon
Weak and slow shot in overtime. Was there in person had the best view for the ot shot by pettersson. Don’t think they showed a replay on tv and it’s hard to see live but the shot was so slow, high and to the left of the goalie. It was so bad
They gotta trade Boeser to resign better players. Can’t afford another anchor contract
For a team that struggles so much to score, not re-signing Brock Boeser feels incredibly short-sighted.
He's not exactly lighting it up right now unfortunately. I think they'll sign him though even though Dhali said his agent told him they've had "zero talks" as of yet
the people responsible for the noise wondering if the noise will calm down now...
I mean, they didn't make up the rumours and we all kept listening
If we struggle we should move Boeser (retention) Bluger and Suter to NJ for Mercer and a 1st.
Rick: "There was so much noise in Vancouver" - he must have been listening to his own voice. Things might have been messy for the players in the Canucks locker room but the media has been making it so much worse. Especially Rick.
i'm trying to figure what part of juulsen's game is it that has tocchet going back to that well time and time again. his numbers are hideous. dash 1 on a low scoring game again last night. i'm sure everybody would have liked to see mancini. big kid good skater. petie just isn't anywhere near where he was 1 year ago when he just imploded. i hope he's the next order of business. give him a fresh start.
I'm happy about the trade, paying Miller $8m until he was 38 was never going to benefit this team long term and i never agreed with the term to begin with. Every year JT get's older the less his value is, his production WILL drop off in the coming years. JT wanted out too, this is clear - the team had to do it now, and they were not in a beneficial position as other teams knew this. Imagine if we would have re-signed Lindholm long term too? This team would be handcuffed, not to mention Lindholm has been bad since he left and at $7.75 at 7 years....no thanks - dodged a bullet.
The cap is going up $30 million over the next two seasons though.
@@HarrisonHollers Sure is, doesn't change the fact that 35/36 year old Miller would not be worth anywhere near $8M a year. They can use that money elsewhere on younger, faster players. "The cap is going up so we can overpay older players" argument doesn't sit well with me.
Yeah trading the hardest working guy on the team who wears his heart on his sleeve plus leads by example was a GREAT idea.
@@norrislaitinen5011 Hardest working guy on the team?!?!?! Oh boy, you mean when he's not invisible and being benched for not backchecking? Or how about when he coughed the puck up his second last game and gave up on checking the guy on the breakaway and watched instead? JT was AT TIMES one of the hardest working....but when he wasn't....he sure wasn't. JT and his agent wanted a fresh start, the team did what they had to do. I can name at least 5 players who are harder working and more consistent than JT.
@@bigamigo4863 $8M is going to be a mid level contract when the ceiling is raised $30M. A team this offseason will pay $14 million for 7 seasons. He will be 29 at the start of next season. He’s a winger. Miller is a Center; more valuable. Make your own conclusions.
Not the Canucks anymore. Vancouver Swedes. 😮😂😅😊
Vancouver has always liked the Swedish players.
These guys clueless. It’s not simmering down. Fans are livid.
Nah, just you. Canucks win from these trades
Nah you’re just being a drama queen
Speak for yourself some of us Canucks fans actually understand Miller was a cancer in the room and needed to go. Real fans see this move as a good thing you don't trade a 26 year old kid and keep a 32 year old guy who is declining in his skill set. Miller won't get near being a 100 point guy again. Petey will be a 100 point guy again .
Holy fuck you guys cannot let this go can you
I'm over it too .. enough already
If the Canucks would’ve done a deal sooner they could’ve got Kakku in the deal with Chytil
No that was not on the table. Ryan Lindgren was rumored to be included with Chytil.
Sadly, Petey hasn't done much in the past year, he also looks disinterested most of the time.
I doubt any team was really interested in him with his big contract.
Bunch of armchair GMs whining about losing Miller. This was clearly a good series of moves for the org given the situation
Keep in mind they've been extremely unlucky with injuries this year
Says a armchair GM 😂
Canuck fans being Canuck fans 😂. Guve the new guys a chance ffs
❤
Marcus Petterson is d petey, fw Elias Petterson is Petey and D Elias Petterson is Re- petey
Should’ve traded Peterson we’re so f*cked now lmfao
Petey, EP, MP
I personally like 3Dpetey.
Boeser is so gone haha…. He was on Team JT.
Friedman can FOAD he's a hack
Still worried about Friedman. It’s clear the cannabis is taking its toll on him. His condition is deteriorating. Hoping for the best with him
Move pettersson now bring in marner in the summer
EF - Legend~!
I’m devastated he and Marek’s pod ended up. The NHL is so dumb to have that fall apart.
@@HarrisonHollers Probably about $$$ - if so, pure greed
@@G_Ellis606 na Marek did something during the draft. Seems like a BS technicality. The duos was fantastic!
Now bring back Zadorov and Lindholm back!
lol Lindholm is sucking this year
Do not look back, please look forward
Huge mistake to trade Miller and not Petterson. Miller was able to push the team, is good at PP, PK, OT and F/O. He more or less neutralized McDavid which enabled the team to win. Can't remember when I have seen anything coming close to that from Petterson, but remember his negativity and non existent self confidence. He is hugely overpaid; the Canucks tried to help him over and over with different linemates. Nothing helped.
Millers wants out
Heart and Soul guy gone.😮😮JT. There's guys on my Div 1 beer Hockey that did not get along at late night Hockey...but still showed up to play. Not easy being a Canucks fan. Maybe bring Mc David later in his career like Sundin and Messier😮😮
Seriously you are comparing your beer league guys with contracted professional athletes?
Heart and soul guy won’t take leave of absence
@@Loveconcert2006 Good point. I see what you are saying
@@jasonjansen9831 No....Not even close....Just saying we pay to play even if we don't get along...Ha Ha...There have been many NHL Teams that one Cups with guys that did not get along...Obviously it would be better if they did....But no not comparing....There has been some good news for British Columbians...lots of fresh snow for skiing and snowboarding
See if it pans out... JT is a proven playoff competitor and Petey isn't so maybe it wasn't the right call long term
I dont thonk Rangers or the canucks are makingbthe playoffs
For a guy that just had to get outta town the players on the team looked dejected as fuck.
Like he’s so toxic right but Hughes looked like he was gonna cry
Go away Friedman you goof