@@rochester212 Any item can be a collection if the owner knows their history. Even cheap old Chinese imitations can also be a collection, as this is part of watchmaking. But a ton of gold bars of the same type is expensive, but it is not a collection.
The most important point I learned is to find a seller who knows the brand he is selling and can be trusted. There is no way, unless you spend countless hours learning about a specific model and have handled many watches, that I could ever know enough how original a vintage watch really is. Thanks for making this video and showing us you really know vintage Omega watches! I will definitely reach out when I am ready to buy a vintage Omega.
I am certainly glad i took my time when looking for my first vintage Omega. While on vacation, I found one in a shop that was WAY overpriced, had an obvious redial (though i didnt notice at the time), and had an aftermarket crown, among other things. That watch stuck in the back of my head, and i almost went back to the shop twice during the vacation to get it, but ultimately passed on it (thankfully). I did get the shops name/number and took several pictures of the watch, in case i ended up wanting to have it shipped. I came back home, took my time researching it, and realized all of the things that were incorrect on it. I waited about 8-9 months, and finally found a watch that was perfect. Extremely thankful that i was patient and didnt rush to purchase. Moral of the story, I would always suggest to take as many pictures as you can, go home, do research on it, then make your decision then.
Thank you for sharing. Patience is definitely vital when it comes to buying a vintage watch. Take your time to do plenty of research and comparison to fully understand what you are about to buy. I would say 80% of so-called "Omega specialists" are not really specialists. So you really cannot take their words and why I am not on the Omega forums. Too many of these so-called specialists. Very stubborn and won't listen.
Great video! I just bought my first vintage automatic at 33yo, and I feel more confident after watching this. I want to buy watchmaker tools and a clone 2824-2 or two from China so I can learn. Timepieces are really timeless and fascinating, look at the digital world we live in today and still a bunch of us are just getting into mechanical watches... I wish I had got into the hobby before when I was younger...
Thank you for sharing! I did make a video on watch tool if you go through my past video. But those are basic tools. Certain tools I recommend that you stick to Swiss quality to get the job done correctly.
Sooo...basically the hours it would take for me to accumulate this wealth of knowledge is far greater than just buying from an honest dealer who will give you the real goods from the get go. Saving a few hundred bucks on what could be a franken-watch is not a good use of my time for a watch I will buy only once? Great video again! Thanks.
That would be up to you bud. How would you know if a dealer is honest? Majority only started the business maybe 3-5 years ago. And if a dealer sell all sort of brands, do you think they can be an expert? There are good dealers out there, but best to put some effort to self education. It is part of the fun for a lot people who are looking to buy an old watch.
WOW and Thank You are only words i can say now to express my thankfulness for your educational video. Hope one day I will be able to add Omega Vintage to my collection.
I just bought my first watch! A gorgeous Omega Geneve 136.102 from 1972. I probably overpaid and rushed and got scammed. but it looks great! And has recently been serviced.
So much great info! If I may add, always make sure there’s an option to return the watch (especially for online purchases). I’ve missed things in the excitement of finding a new watch, only to discover issues after purchase.
Very appreciate for your time and effort putting in this video! I always support your videos on you tube and posts on Instagram. I myself own 2 vintage omega watches and I love them so much.
Many thanks for an informative video tutorial! Another thing to look out for is a vintage watch missing the crown and stem, and sold “as is”. You might think this is a bargain- just need to source the new parts. But sometimes the movement does not belong to the case, and the case tube doesn’t line up with the keyless works. So you end up with a movement with no case, and a case with no movement. Definitely a long long project!
Now you getting very technical. Haha. But very good and thank you for sharing. Best to buy a complete watch in great shape. You’ll be a happy owner for years to come.
I collect as well. I have several vintage pieces that are in fantastic shape that I only wear occasionally, but my favorite vintage watches have obvious wear and show their age, so I’m not afraid to daily it.
The last part of the video is extremely useful!! I was considering asking for a mineral crystal replacement on my omega. But it makes totally sense using acrylic crystal. And it actually looks better. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Woooow, This is a most see. Lv all your videos, but is the best for beginners (and me).... This is why I only buy my watches from OE! All watches totally authentic and run absolutely perfect, lv every watch I have bought from you.... YOU ARE THE BEST!!!!!
Thank you! I am always happy to assist you! I'm glad this video is getting more attraction and attention. Some of the steps I point out in this video is common sense, but a lot of people tense to skip it.
Please don't, I found a Omega quartz De ville gold plated watch head in a mixed bag of watches I bought from auction for a 10er. Popped a battery in and worked. That was my first ever omega and is probably responsible for my addiction to this date 🤪
I am very, very thankful for this video! Buying vintage watches is really something else in terms of needed knowledge, but it just makes so much more fun to search them! Thanks for everything my friend!
I would have added a section on "frankenwatches". Watches which are somewhat correct but have swapped dials, hands, crowns, and sometimes even entire movements. This is extremely common for Eastern Bloc watches as almost all sizes for movements were standardized within and sometimes between brands. This can make Eastern Bloc watches very cool to customize but almost impossible to find in original configuration.
I really like how in-depth you go in this video! Just to add some of my views - personally, I don't mind case refinishing as much as I dial refinishing. I think that as long as the case looks good, and retains its original shape, I may still consider buying the watch. If it's been polished so well that I can't tell it's been polished, I'm happy with that case. However, dial refinishing is a dealbreaker for me. I don't see myself ever buying a watch with a refinished dial. The main reason for this is that it really diminishes the value of the watch. In addition, refinishing, most of time time, looks like refinishing. It doesn't match the overall condition of an old watch.
Hi Omega Enthusiast, it is just a pleasure to hear your tips , from a experienced collector you are. Your videos are professional done and the quality is superb. Thank you for share you experience with us. You watches are mazing I never see a variety of watches in such conditions. I am saving to buy me an Omega Constellation 2852 automatic. Cheers from Italy
Perfect video at a perfect time. Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge. I'm looking at a 1960s Constellation and this video has been very useful. Have a 👍🏼
Thank you for the comment. You should watch a few episodes in the “constellation” playlist. You’ll get to learn more about vintage 1960s Constellation.
Thank you for sharing your experiences with vintages pieces, very impressive little little details about ownership of your new vintage piece, i had made multiple mistakes owning my first vintage pieces, so i Thank you for taking the time to educate me, now i own several vintage pieces..im also new to your channel,all way from St George Utah, viva watch making, looking forward in the future to own one your vintages pieces, but for now I'll keep watching..until next episode..my friend im focusing on Gruen Curvex watches and many other's..
Excellent video of explanation of watches be they Omega, LeCoultre, or other makes, your presentation was very helpful and your explanation was just perfect. Thank you!
I just came across this video as I am looking info about my grand father watch that I found after he passed away. The watch is an Omega from 1967 unfortunately is not running and I spotted some replaced parts. I am not an expert but wanted to bring the watch to his original state. Thanks for your video so many interesting tips re watches "badly" fixed
Thank You so much for your advice! It was so thorough that I now understand what to look for with extreme precision! I actually noticed that one of my vintage Omegas, a Geneve with a sky-blue dial (ref. 166.0173)had actually had the corners polished down. I am not sure how much it affects the value but honestly I still am very happy with it especially since sky blue/Tiffany blue dials are trending this year.
Happy to hear that. I believe I still have one like your as well. Take good care of it. It's a very nice watch. 166 should make your watch the automatic version.
Thank you for producing such informative, intelligent, interesting, and detailed content. You have a beautiful, classic collection, you have excellent taste, as your collection is very similar to my own, lol, just larger. I look forward to shopping your store.
Haha, thank you for the comment. It's all good my friend. Your collection may not be as big as mine, but I bet they are also just as beautiful or better. Please take your time and I'll be more than happy to assist you when you're ready.
Very informative video! There are so many flawed vintage pieces on the market. Or maybe I should say most of the vintage pieces on the market have different issues, big or small. Some significantly affect the value some are not as critical. Knowledge / experience is the key to spot the issues. That's why we need your expertise :)
Many thanks my friend! I think it's about time that we need to see more of these kind of videos, getting to the point instead of pointing out what is good to buy etc... You'll need to first understand the product that you are about to invest into. I can always tell someone to go and buy a Constellation with caliber 561 movement, but if he/she select one that is not properly serviced, it's going to be a bad purchase.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Definitely need more videos/articles like this. Getting to know different dial, case, hands, movement combinations is the process of acquiring the knowledge; it usually takes lots of time. If I want to save time and avoid bad purchase, I'll just buy from your site. ;)
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Thank you so much for this💓! I’m going to do more research...I love vintage Omega Seamaster De Villes and want these to be my collection...I want to make sure I approach each piece as thoroughly as possible
You're very welcome. There are many Seamaster Deville case models. Many of the imported models will come in gold filled case and powered by 17 jewels movement only. There are automatic and there are manual wind. Some will have date while some will not. And some will have regular date set while those from the later 60s to early 70s will have quick set. And a great place to ask questions is on the Omega forums where there will be many specialists to assist you.
Very nice and informative vedio I recently start collecting vintage watches and having a small number of watches, but I will peruse your tips in my next purchase, all the way love from Pakistan
12:30 what's the setting in the lower subdial... stuck hour subdial hand ? 19:20 try to buy a Speedmaster that comes on a time-period correct steel bracelet instead of leather strap
The center long second is the second timer, to the right is the minute, and the bottom is the hour timer. The left sub dial is the regular second hand. Actually, I like my speedmaster to be worn on a strap. Personal preferences especially for someone with a smaller size wrist.
Thank you. This was a very educational video and i learned a lot. Maybe too specific, but i would love to see more of your 168.017 and similar constellation references.
Great upload buddy 👍 I'm currently looking for a vintage watch to date back to my birth year of 1977, and I have a soft spot for omega, I like the look of the Cal.625 from that particular year, and have seen a few nice examples around the £500 mark. Would you have any advice on the de ville, or anything else you mat think I might like from the 1977 era. Take care buddy, liked & subbed as soon as I seen your RUclips name 😉
@@TimelessHistoryChannel btw you mentioned in the video that dial refinishing is a topic of a separate video. Do you have that video or do you plan to upload such video?
@@oganovdavid To make a video about dial refinish would take a very long time as there are just too many examples to talk about. There are bad dial refinish and there are the amazing dial refinish. You can find some of these dial refinish topic from watching my "watch wrong" or "daily watch wrong" playlist. I do point out the basic. And for those who are supporting me on Patreon, I do post examples of dial refinish there as well. And of course, my patron can always ask me questions there as well.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel okay thanks for reply. I've already seen your watch wrong videos, but I don't always get what's wrong. It seems extremely hard for me even with your explanations. But I got much better with your videos. Thanks once again!
@@oganovdavid It takes time to know everything. But my videos are just there to help speed up the learning process. I had to learn everything the hard way.
I love the honest approach to ur video and am in the market for an early pie pan model Omega. Preferably a 168-005 series with a 565 movement? I'm not set on a particular color dial face but lean towards the whites and since I own an Omega Aqua Terra in 18k gold I would like a stainless steel watch and bracelet. I know that's alot to ask but is it possible to find something along those lines? Thank you. David
Hi, 168.005 is only available with a caliber 561 or 564. 565 would make the watch a franken watch. What you’re looking for I’ve sold several. Unfortunately, I do not take special requests as there too many. Best is to subscribe to my website for latest update notification email and follow me on Instagram to watch my upcoming stuff.
Hi I have a vintage omega and have a question. Will the Omega seamaster DeVille have the word deVille on the back case? I'd really appreciate an answer and I am subscribing to your channel at this time.
Thank you for subscribing. From what I know, the case back on a Seamaster Deville does not have the word "deville". It may come with: 1) blank back 2) Seamaster emblem with the word Seamaster 3) Seamaster emblem with the word Seamaster and Automatic
Found a 1950s Omega bumper at the local pawn but looks slightly Frankensteined. It’s got the seamaster 9 but doesn’t say seamaster just omega automatic. Only reason I’m interested is the shop has is listed for $275 as a “premium watch”. Trying to figure out if it’s legit or just had some parts swapped?
Firstly great video! Secondly, how important is having the correct diameter of the crown tube? I have researched a bit and it seems like the fitment of the tube to the case is more important than the fitment to the crown itself. How much of an impact should a wrong tube have on the value of the watch if the crown is original and correct for the model but of a different diameter where it connects to the tube. Do you know what diameter crown tube the 2848 and 2846 should have ? 2.5 or 2mm?
Thank you! Case model 2848/2846/2849 take a 2.5mm case tube diameter. The crown tube entrance hole and gasket need to be correct size to proper fit the case tube and protect moisture from entering. The crown post that holes the stem is not important.
1345 is a quartz movement. I do not work or touch quartz watches unfortunately. However, two things to keep in mind. 1. Since the original battery is discontinued and modern battery does not provide the same voltage. To be safe, stick to "renata" brand batter when it's time to replace. 2. Always make sure to remove a dead battery inside the watch. If you do not, over a period of time it will leak and damage the watch.
You're welcome. Gold cap is a thick layer of actual solid gold or gold filled melted over the steel case. It will stay on the case for a lifetime as long as you do not dig it off or polish it away. Gold filled alone is very soft and is made up of 1/10 actual gold. It will take a deep polish to take away the gold filled off the case. But if you sweat a lot, the acid from your sweat/skin can oxidize or corrode the case over time. Gold plated is measured by micron because it is extra thin. Vintage watches will have thicker plating such as 20-80 microns. So the case gold on the case will last for many decades if well taken care of. However, modern day gold plating is normally made up of a mixture of other metal compound to produce a gold tone. And the plating is usually 1-3 micron only which will last between a year to 5 years at most before you need to replate it again. It would be a very short video. haha
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Thank you very kindly! it was actually difficult to find a straight forward answer googling this. Very much appreciate your info :) cheers
Can I please ask you another question? I am considering buying a 1970s diver chronograph with a landeron 149 movement which looks beautiful and is quite cheap ($700 AUD so maybe 450 USD) and the seller says that it is a solid stainless steel case. It does look quite clean and stainless steel, however the caseback says "stainless steel back, anti magnetic, waterproof" - does the fact it say "stainless steel back, indicate that the rest of the watch is a base metal? I have seen another watch where it says "Stainless steel back - base metal bezel" - this watch doesnt say that. I want to believe the seller and it does look like all stainless steel. However, I don't want to get burned.
@@raymond3918 It sounds like chrome plated top. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask me on my patreon account. Link in the description box.
Thank you for this video. Question: Do you have one of the original Omega military watches? (The so-called "Dirty Dozen" watch.) Could you do a video on the difference between these authentic military watches and similar looking black Suveran or other models? I'm not sure, but I think I've seen Suverans advertised as the more expensive Dirty Dozen model.
Dirty dozen is a complete different line of military watches and they if thoroughly examined + compared, are not the same as the Suveran 2400 case model. I am not really a fan of the dirty dozen so unfortunately do not have an example to make a video on.
Many thanks for the video. I made several errors that you mentioned and I may repeat them as there are many details to be checked especially if you don't take the time and perform a systematic review. I did not see any comment regarding reviewing the movement and it is also a very important factor. Would you consider rude or improper to take a timegrapher with you and check it prior buying? I would not be looking for perfection you know, but at least to see how the movement is performing. That also can help me to know that I will need to invest more money servicing the watch at once. Again, thanks for giving us a method to review vintage watches (and showing us fantastic timepieces!!!)
Thank you for the comment Fernando. To be honest, when you plan on buying a watch in as is condition, there is no point to test it on the spot. Regardless, whether it is running accurate or not, it is best to service the watch. Why I need to service all of my watches prior to listing them for sale and provide my lifetime special warranty. This way my clients will never have to worry about expensive future service cost. But I guess, you could test the watch before hand if you choose to as well. Buying one with a decent reading to begin with is better than buying one that has a bad reading.
Thank you for the comment. That is not a dress moonwatch. Just an ordinary Omega Chronograph. Moon watch would be the Speedmaster model. The case model for this Deville Chronograph is 145.018.
Hello, verry interesting video about vintage watches. At 6:20 is a Omega with a small second - it looks good. Please can you tell me the modelnumber and the productionyear. Manny thanks. Br., Robert
If you watch my videos on my 30T2 collection you’ll find information on this watch. It dates to 1939. I bought this one from the curator at the Omega Museum many years ago.
I'm curious to ask, does it feel like there's a lot of resistance when you hand-wind the Longines Conquest Heritage 35mm? I know the ETA2824 hand-winding movement can feel rough, but would this watch feel significantly worse? I recently purchased this watch from a very reputable used watch dealer in the UK, and I have tested its accuracy using the Watch Accuracy Meter app, which shows a gain of +1/day and a beat error of 0.1ms. Given the dealer's excellent reputation, I'm wondering if this is a common issue with this watch or if I need to have it serviced. Thank you very much ~
You can tell he's a true collector by the condition of his collection.
Many thanks! I like my stuff to look great which is why what I have for sale on my site are all outstanding examples as well.
Redials!!!
True. For instance, most of my collection is garbage.
@@rochester212 Any item can be a collection if the owner knows their history. Even cheap old Chinese imitations can also be a collection, as this is part of watchmaking. But a ton of gold bars of the same type is expensive, but it is not a collection.
The most important point I learned is to find a seller who knows the brand he is selling and can be trusted. There is no way, unless you spend countless hours learning about a specific model and have handled many watches, that I could ever know enough how original a vintage watch really is. Thanks for making this video and showing us you really know vintage Omega watches! I will definitely reach out when I am ready to buy a vintage Omega.
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I am certainly glad i took my time when looking for my first vintage Omega. While on vacation, I found one in a shop that was WAY overpriced, had an obvious redial (though i didnt notice at the time), and had an aftermarket crown, among other things. That watch stuck in the back of my head, and i almost went back to the shop twice during the vacation to get it, but ultimately passed on it (thankfully). I did get the shops name/number and took several pictures of the watch, in case i ended up wanting to have it shipped. I came back home, took my time researching it, and realized all of the things that were incorrect on it. I waited about 8-9 months, and finally found a watch that was perfect. Extremely thankful that i was patient and didnt rush to purchase. Moral of the story, I would always suggest to take as many pictures as you can, go home, do research on it, then make your decision then.
Thank you for sharing. Patience is definitely vital when it comes to buying a vintage watch. Take your time to do plenty of research and comparison to fully understand what you are about to buy. I would say 80% of so-called "Omega specialists" are not really specialists. So you really cannot take their words and why I am not on the Omega forums. Too many of these so-called specialists. Very stubborn and won't listen.
Great video! I just bought my first vintage automatic at 33yo, and I feel more confident after watching this. I want to buy watchmaker tools and a clone 2824-2 or two from China so I can learn. Timepieces are really timeless and fascinating, look at the digital world we live in today and still a bunch of us are just getting into mechanical watches... I wish I had got into the hobby before when I was younger...
Thank you for sharing! I did make a video on watch tool if you go through my past video. But those are basic tools. Certain tools I recommend that you stick to Swiss quality to get the job done correctly.
Sooo...basically the hours it would take for me to accumulate this wealth of knowledge is far greater than just buying from an honest dealer who will give you the real goods from the get go. Saving a few hundred bucks on what could be a franken-watch is not a good use of my time for a watch I will buy only once? Great video again! Thanks.
That would be up to you bud. How would you know if a dealer is honest? Majority only started the business maybe 3-5 years ago. And if a dealer sell all sort of brands, do you think they can be an expert? There are good dealers out there, but best to put some effort to self education. It is part of the fun for a lot people who are looking to buy an old watch.
WOW and Thank You are only words i can say now to express my thankfulness for your educational video. Hope one day I will be able to add Omega Vintage to my collection.
Amazing video - your education on omega watches is superb! Well done and thank you.
Many thanks 🙏
Now this is a video many folks need to see! Thanks for sharing your experience and expertise.
Thank you! Unfortunately, only those who have found me on RUclips will get to learn all of these knowledge for free.
I just bought my first watch! A gorgeous Omega Geneve 136.102 from 1972. I probably overpaid and rushed and got scammed. but it looks great! And has recently been serviced.
So much great info! If I may add, always make sure there’s an option to return the watch (especially for online purchases). I’ve missed things in the excitement of finding a new watch, only to discover issues after purchase.
Very appreciate for your time and effort putting in this video! I always support your videos on you tube and posts on Instagram. I myself own 2 vintage omega watches and I love them so much.
YOu're very welcome! Thank you for your support and take good care of your Omega watches. :-)
Many thanks for an informative video tutorial! Another thing to look out for is a vintage watch missing the crown and stem, and sold “as is”. You might think this is a bargain- just need to source the new parts. But sometimes the movement does not belong to the case, and the case tube doesn’t line up with the keyless works. So you end up with a movement with no case, and a case with no movement. Definitely a long long project!
Now you getting very technical. Haha. But very good and thank you for sharing. Best to buy a complete watch in great shape. You’ll be a happy owner for years to come.
I collect as well. I have several vintage pieces that are in fantastic shape that I only wear occasionally, but my favorite vintage watches have obvious wear and show their age, so I’m not afraid to daily it.
Many gems here. I Enjoyed the tired watch spring as best.
nothing gets past OE. he is a sharp customer
You can be too! 😉
Incredibly informative. If I ever have to make recommendations for someone buying their fist vintage time piece, I will send them this.
I very happy to hear that. Hope this video will get well spread and help many who are new into the hobby.
The last part of the video is extremely useful!! I was considering asking for a mineral crystal replacement on my omega. But it makes totally sense using acrylic crystal. And it actually looks better. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Glad it was helpful!
You have such an amazing taste, those watches are incredible!
The video is great too
Many thanks 🙏
Woooow, This is a most see. Lv all your videos, but is the best for beginners (and me)....
This is why I only buy my watches from OE! All watches totally authentic and run absolutely perfect, lv every watch I have bought from you....
YOU ARE THE BEST!!!!!
Thank you! I am always happy to assist you!
I'm glad this video is getting more attraction and attention. Some of the steps I point out in this video is common sense, but a lot of people tense to skip it.
I found a seamaster in a watch grab bag at a salvation army :)
Congrats mate! We are all hoping to find some treasure amongst the crud!
Please show us...
Please don't, I found a Omega quartz De ville gold plated watch head in a mixed bag of watches I bought from auction for a 10er. Popped a battery in and worked. That was my first ever omega and is probably responsible for my addiction to this date 🤪
I am very, very thankful for this video! Buying vintage watches is really something else in terms of needed knowledge, but it just makes so much more fun to search them! Thanks for everything my friend!
Very happy to hear your feedback and many many thanks!
Thanks Omega Enthusiast you’re the best 🙏
You're very welcome!
I would have added a section on "frankenwatches". Watches which are somewhat correct but have swapped dials, hands, crowns, and sometimes even entire movements. This is extremely common for Eastern Bloc watches as almost all sizes for movements were standardized within and sometimes between brands. This can make Eastern Bloc watches very cool to customize but almost impossible to find in original configuration.
Silly Bearpunch…Trix are for kids & everybody knows there’s no “Frankenstein” when it comes to Omega…😒🤣
I really like how in-depth you go in this video!
Just to add some of my views - personally, I don't mind case refinishing as much as I dial refinishing. I think that as long as the case looks good, and retains its original shape, I may still consider buying the watch. If it's been polished so well that I can't tell it's been polished, I'm happy with that case. However, dial refinishing is a dealbreaker for me. I don't see myself ever buying a watch with a refinished dial. The main reason for this is that it really diminishes the value of the watch. In addition, refinishing, most of time time, looks like refinishing. It doesn't match the overall condition of an old watch.
Hi Omega Enthusiast, it is just a pleasure to hear your tips , from a experienced collector you are.
Your videos are professional done and the quality is superb.
Thank you for share you experience with us.
You watches are mazing I never see a variety of watches in such conditions.
I am saving to buy me an Omega Constellation 2852 automatic.
Cheers from Italy
Many many thanks! Appreciated for your comment. Take your time, there are nice 2852 available from time to time.
Thank You for your time and effort . Your presentation`s are very well done .
Many thanks 🙏
Perfect video at a perfect time. Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge. I'm looking at a 1960s Constellation and this video has been very useful. Have a 👍🏼
Thank you for the comment. You should watch a few episodes in the “constellation” playlist. You’ll get to learn more about vintage 1960s Constellation.
Thank you for sharing your experiences with vintages pieces, very impressive little little details about ownership of your new vintage piece, i had made multiple mistakes owning my first vintage pieces, so i Thank you for taking the time to educate me, now i own several vintage pieces..im also new to your channel,all way from St George Utah, viva watch making, looking forward in the future to own one your vintages pieces, but for now I'll keep watching..until next episode..my friend im focusing on Gruen Curvex watches and many other's..
Thank you for the comment. Gruen Curvex is a beautiful watch. There are many models, so it can be difficult to choose a favourite.
This is a great jumping off point for me. I do not have the money to invest in high quality watches but I’ll start my path at the thrift store.
Excellent video of explanation of watches be they Omega, LeCoultre, or other makes, your presentation was very helpful and your explanation was just perfect. Thank you!
very nice video! I will be having my father's bumper movement Omega tuned up soon! Your videos will help me with future purchases!
Thank you very much! And your father will be very pleased to have his watch working again!
You have a beautiful collection, congrats! I love watches and I really appreciate your content!
Thank you so much!
I just came across this video as I am looking info about my grand father watch that I found after he passed away. The watch is an Omega from 1967 unfortunately is not running and I spotted some replaced parts. I am not an expert but wanted to bring the watch to his original state. Thanks for your video so many interesting tips re watches "badly" fixed
Thank You so much for your advice! It was so thorough that I now understand what to look for with extreme precision! I actually noticed that one of my vintage Omegas, a Geneve with a sky-blue dial (ref. 166.0173)had actually had the corners polished down. I am not sure how much it affects the value but honestly I still am very happy with it especially since sky blue/Tiffany blue dials are trending this year.
Happy to hear that. I believe I still have one like your as well. Take good care of it. It's a very nice watch. 166 should make your watch the automatic version.
Thanks!
Thank you so much! 😊 🙏
Very informative and entertaining. Thank you for your time in making the video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for producing such informative, intelligent, interesting, and detailed content. You have a beautiful, classic collection, you have excellent taste, as your collection is very similar to my own, lol, just larger. I look forward to shopping your store.
Haha, thank you for the comment. It's all good my friend. Your collection may not be as big as mine, but I bet they are also just as beautiful or better. Please take your time and I'll be more than happy to assist you when you're ready.
Thabks for the awesome video! I learned so much to look at on the Seamaster I'm thinking of...
You're more than welcome.
Thank you very much for this video! Now I’m more prepared for my first vintage watch!
You're very welcome!
Question for you, in your video, when you show the case dimension, is it lug to lug? Or diameter excluding crown?
Very informative video! There are so many flawed vintage pieces on the market. Or maybe I should say most of the vintage pieces on the market have different issues, big or small. Some significantly affect the value some are not as critical. Knowledge / experience is the key to spot the issues. That's why we need your expertise :)
Many thanks my friend! I think it's about time that we need to see more of these kind of videos, getting to the point instead of pointing out what is good to buy etc... You'll need to first understand the product that you are about to invest into. I can always tell someone to go and buy a Constellation with caliber 561 movement, but if he/she select one that is not properly serviced, it's going to be a bad purchase.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Definitely need more videos/articles like this. Getting to know different dial, case, hands, movement combinations is the process of acquiring the knowledge; it usually takes lots of time. If I want to save time and avoid bad purchase, I'll just buy from your site. ;)
As a small collector myself I have a few nice timepieces but nothing as classic and timeless as yours very nice
Thank you kindly
That’s an amazingly beautiful watch! Omega black dial with moonphase! Damn....
❤I liked it. I shall again watch.
I am enthused that you have a huge collection of watches.
Thank you for watching! Enjoy!
Thank you for this, really looking to get into vintage watches. What model is that Patek Philippe at the start? Absolutely breathtaking. Thanks again!
You can learn more about this Patek from this episode: BUYING A PATEK PHILIPPE GOING TO BREAK MY BANK ACCOUNT?
ruclips.net/video/o3dGYL38Kmc/видео.html
yes I’m planning to buy my first vintage watch and this video save me alot on my journey.
Happy to hear that.
Thank you so much for this💓! I’m going to do more research...I love vintage Omega Seamaster De Villes and want these to be my collection...I want to make sure I approach each piece as thoroughly as possible
You're very welcome. There are many Seamaster Deville case models. Many of the imported models will come in gold filled case and powered by 17 jewels movement only. There are automatic and there are manual wind. Some will have date while some will not. And some will have regular date set while those from the later 60s to early 70s will have quick set. And a great place to ask questions is on the Omega forums where there will be many specialists to assist you.
You are the best! 🤗
Very nice and informative vedio I recently start collecting vintage watches and having a small number of watches, but I will peruse your tips in my next purchase, all the way love from Pakistan
Happy to hear that and you're more than welcome
Thanks man , very nice and useful video, supporting u from Italy
Thank you so much! Working on a new video. Hope to get it up soon!
Extremely informative video. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge.
Thank you! I think it's about time for someone to make informative video.
Fantastic video! Thanks, Omega Enthusiast!
Very well delivered tutorial I need to take another look at my vintage sea master😏
12:30 what's the setting in the lower subdial... stuck hour subdial hand ?
19:20 try to buy a Speedmaster that comes on a time-period correct steel bracelet instead of leather strap
The center long second is the second timer, to the right is the minute, and the bottom is the hour timer. The left sub dial is the regular second hand.
Actually, I like my speedmaster to be worn on a strap. Personal preferences especially for someone with a smaller size wrist.
Thanks for the vid. I've followed you on IG for a while now and look forward to grabbing a watch from you in the near future!
Remember, "DON'T RUSH" :-)
Thanks for a very informative video.Info will definitely be very helpful in my future collection of Omega's
Glad it was helpful! and Thank you for watching!
Outstanding video, looking at your Omega watches on your site. I will start saving :)
Much appreciated! Please take your time. I'll be more than happy to assist you when the time comes.
Thank you. This was a very educational video and i learned a lot.
Maybe too specific, but i would love to see more of your 168.017 and similar constellation references.
You can learn everything about the C case Constellation including the 168.017 reference here: ruclips.net/video/6PNLQ-105wQ/видео.html
I really like your videos. They are aways informative. I'm still looking for the right omega.
Many thanks! Follow the first 8 steps from this video. That will help you narrow down your selection.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel very helpful. Best regards lee
Amazing video! Thanks for share your expirience
You’re most welcome. Happy to hear and happy holidays!
Awesome video! If I am in Toronto anytime soon, I will be visiting you.
Awesome video. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Beautiful collection Sir.
You’re welcome. And thank you for watching. I hope you learned a lot from this video. :)
I did Sir. Thank you again.
Great Video. Could you give some information on the usage of radium in vintage watches, especially Omega. How long did Omega use this material?
Watch this video. ruclips.net/video/FK2DnOoeyjg/видео.htmlsi=DRLWgIYNnlrowwB2
Where do you recommend buying vintage Omegas? You have a great channel and collection. Thanks!
You can always find the best vintage Omega on my site. Link in the description box above.
Great upload buddy 👍 I'm currently looking for a vintage watch to date back to my birth year of 1977, and I have a soft spot for omega, I like the look of the Cal.625 from that particular year, and have seen a few nice examples around the £500 mark.
Would you have any advice on the de ville, or anything else you mat think I might like from the 1977 era.
Take care buddy, liked & subbed as soon as I seen your RUclips name 😉
I must disappoint you, but I would recommend a model pre-1970s for Omega.
Very interesting and informative! Thank you.
You're video was very helpful! Thank you!
Always happy to hear that. Thank you for watching!
Another great video. Thank you. Learning all the time.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the knowledge. Btw I loved your aquascape (I'm a noob with both watches and aquascaping)
You're welcome. Like learning watches, it will take time to learn how to properly aquascape. But I am sure you will become very good on both soon!
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Thanks man.
Great and very insightful video! I see already a lot of mistakes I’ve made so far ahah!
Sorry to hear that. But I hope from here on after you have watched this video. You’ll never make another mistake! 😉
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Ahah you definitely gave some helpful feedback :) I,ll try not to, that's for sure!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge
As long as my viewers get to learn something from my videos I am very happy.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel btw you mentioned in the video that dial refinishing is a topic of a separate video. Do you have that video or do you plan to upload such video?
@@oganovdavid To make a video about dial refinish would take a very long time as there are just too many examples to talk about. There are bad dial refinish and there are the amazing dial refinish. You can find some of these dial refinish topic from watching my "watch wrong" or "daily watch wrong" playlist. I do point out the basic. And for those who are supporting me on Patreon, I do post examples of dial refinish there as well. And of course, my patron can always ask me questions there as well.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel okay thanks for reply. I've already seen your watch wrong videos, but I don't always get what's wrong. It seems extremely hard for me even with your explanations. But I got much better with your videos. Thanks once again!
@@oganovdavid It takes time to know everything. But my videos are just there to help speed up the learning process. I had to learn everything the hard way.
I love the honest approach to ur video and am in the market for an early pie pan model Omega. Preferably a 168-005 series with a 565 movement? I'm not set on a particular color dial face but lean towards the whites and since I own an Omega Aqua Terra in 18k gold I would like a stainless steel watch and bracelet. I know that's alot to ask but is it possible to find something along those lines? Thank you. David
Hi, 168.005 is only available with a caliber 561 or 564. 565 would make the watch a franken watch. What you’re looking for I’ve sold several. Unfortunately, I do not take special requests as there too many. Best is to subscribe to my website for latest update notification email and follow me on Instagram to watch my upcoming stuff.
Thank You for sharing your collection.
Thanks for the educational video and earlier advice OmegaEnthusiast! :)
You're very welcome!
Picked up 1953 Bimper automatic Lecoultre and love it
Nice!
Excellent…thank you…all major points in watch selection
I have three Vintage Accutron which have never had a battery put in them..they are definitely safequeens..
Make sure to only use Renata brand battery when you decide to get one going.
Very Comprehensive! Great Video. Would you do a Vid on the Black dial annual moon phase? Thanks Omega Enthusiast
Many thanks. Will make a video about it in the future.
Your knowledge is amazing.
Brilliant! Thanks! ❤🎉😊
You’re most welcome
Stunning collection!
Terrific video, thank you!
You're very welcome!
Hi I have a vintage omega and have a question. Will the Omega seamaster DeVille have the word deVille on the back case? I'd really appreciate an answer and I am subscribing to your channel at this time.
Thank you for subscribing. From what I know, the case back on a Seamaster Deville does not have the word "deville".
It may come with:
1) blank back
2) Seamaster emblem with the word Seamaster
3) Seamaster emblem with the word Seamaster and Automatic
Found a 1950s Omega bumper at the local pawn but looks slightly Frankensteined. It’s got the seamaster 9 but doesn’t say seamaster just omega automatic. Only reason I’m interested is the shop has is listed for $275 as a “premium watch”. Trying to figure out if it’s legit or just had some parts swapped?
Thanks for this informative video. 👍
Glad to hear that!
I've been stalking your store for a while now and I was wondering if you ever collect women's watches since that's what I'm looking for.
Many will hit the site tomorrow! Just in time for Xmas! :D
Fantastic! Thank you so much!
Firstly great video!
Secondly, how important is having the correct diameter of the crown tube? I have researched a bit and it seems like the fitment of the tube to the case is more important than the fitment to the crown itself. How much of an impact should a wrong tube have on the value of the watch if the crown is original and correct for the model but of a different diameter where it connects to the tube. Do you know what diameter crown tube the 2848 and 2846 should have ? 2.5 or 2mm?
Thank you!
Case model 2848/2846/2849 take a 2.5mm case tube diameter. The crown tube entrance hole and gasket need to be correct size to proper fit the case tube and protect moisture from entering. The crown post that holes the stem is not important.
Very informative
Great video! Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
You're welcome. I like to get to the point. Teach someone with true fact.
Thank you, so very informative
You’re welcome 😉
Great video. What are your thoughts on a 70''s Omega with the 1345 caliber. It was given to me by my dad.. thx so much
1345 is a quartz movement. I do not work or touch quartz watches unfortunately. However, two things to keep in mind. 1. Since the original battery is discontinued and modern battery does not provide the same voltage. To be safe, stick to "renata" brand batter when it's time to replace. 2. Always make sure to remove a dead battery inside the watch. If you do not, over a period of time it will leak and damage the watch.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel ok. Thx so much
Just curious, Any particular reason why you do not like quartz?
@@TimelessHistoryChannel You are incorrect on the battery (renata) info my friend. This is why I never listen to anybody on RUclips....
Thanks for the knowledge. Would love a video about gold cap vs gold filled vs plated
You're welcome. Gold cap is a thick layer of actual solid gold or gold filled melted over the steel case. It will stay on the case for a lifetime as long as you do not dig it off or polish it away. Gold filled alone is very soft and is made up of 1/10 actual gold. It will take a deep polish to take away the gold filled off the case. But if you sweat a lot, the acid from your sweat/skin can oxidize or corrode the case over time. Gold plated is measured by micron because it is extra thin. Vintage watches will have thicker plating such as 20-80 microns. So the case gold on the case will last for many decades if well taken care of. However, modern day gold plating is normally made up of a mixture of other metal compound to produce a gold tone. And the plating is usually 1-3 micron only which will last between a year to 5 years at most before you need to replate it again. It would be a very short video. haha
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Thank you very kindly! it was actually difficult to find a straight forward answer googling this.
Very much appreciate your info :) cheers
@@raymond3918 You're very welcome. Glad I am able to help.
Can I please ask you another question?
I am considering buying a 1970s diver chronograph with a landeron 149 movement which looks beautiful and is quite cheap ($700 AUD so maybe 450 USD) and the seller says that it is a solid stainless steel case.
It does look quite clean and stainless steel, however the caseback says "stainless steel back, anti magnetic, waterproof" - does the fact it say "stainless steel back, indicate that the rest of the watch is a base metal?
I have seen another watch where it says "Stainless steel back - base metal bezel" - this watch doesnt say that.
I want to believe the seller and it does look like all stainless steel. However, I don't want to get burned.
@@raymond3918 It sounds like chrome plated top. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask me on my patreon account. Link in the description box.
That Patek is stunning! What's the Ref#?
Sorry my friend, unfortunately, this watch has been stored away and I do not have the record on hand. :-(
Thank you for this video.
Question: Do you have one of the original Omega military watches? (The so-called "Dirty Dozen" watch.) Could you do a video on the difference between these authentic military watches and similar looking black Suveran or other models? I'm not sure, but I think I've seen Suverans advertised as the more expensive Dirty Dozen model.
Dirty dozen is a complete different line of military watches and they if thoroughly examined + compared, are not the same as the Suveran 2400 case model. I am not really a fan of the dirty dozen so unfortunately do not have an example to make a video on.
Many thanks for the video. I made several errors that you mentioned and I may repeat them as there are many details to be checked especially if you don't take the time and perform a systematic review.
I did not see any comment regarding reviewing the movement and it is also a very important factor. Would you consider rude or improper to take a timegrapher with you and check it prior buying? I would not be looking for perfection you know, but at least to see how the movement is performing. That also can help me to know that I will need to invest more money servicing the watch at once. Again, thanks for giving us a method to review vintage watches (and showing us fantastic timepieces!!!)
Thank you for the comment Fernando.
To be honest, when you plan on buying a watch in as is condition, there is no point to test it on the spot. Regardless, whether it is running accurate or not, it is best to service the watch. Why I need to service all of my watches prior to listing them for sale and provide my lifetime special warranty. This way my clients will never have to worry about expensive future service cost.
But I guess, you could test the watch before hand if you choose to as well. Buying one with a decent reading to begin with is better than buying one that has a bad reading.
Thank you very much for your sharing.
Truely wonderful collection...
Glad you like it
Excellent video, thank you! Question: what model is the DeVille on your wrist at 12:31 in the video? It looks like a "dress moonwatch." Thank you.
Thank you for the comment. That is not a dress moonwatch. Just an ordinary Omega Chronograph. Moon watch would be the Speedmaster model. The case model for this Deville Chronograph is 145.018.
Hello, verry interesting video about vintage watches. At 6:20 is a Omega with a small second - it looks good. Please can you tell me the modelnumber and the productionyear. Manny thanks. Br., Robert
If you watch my videos on my 30T2 collection you’ll find information on this watch. It dates to 1939. I bought this one from the curator at the Omega Museum many years ago.
does that deville chronograph predate the speedmaster?
I'm curious to ask, does it feel like there's a lot of resistance when you hand-wind the Longines Conquest Heritage 35mm? I know the ETA2824 hand-winding movement can feel rough, but would this watch feel significantly worse? I recently purchased this watch from a very reputable used watch dealer in the UK, and I have tested its accuracy using the Watch Accuracy Meter app, which shows a gain of +1/day and a beat error of 0.1ms. Given the dealer's excellent reputation, I'm wondering if this is a common issue with this watch or if I need to have it serviced.
Thank you very much ~
Too much resistance could be the crown gasket too stiff or the automatic reversing wheel require proper lubrication
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Thank you