As an Electrician I would like to post a caution. lights globes are normally a max of 100 watts whereas these panels are 700 watts each, which is likely to overload your circuits. These panels should only be connected to power circuits (2.5 mm cable) I will refer to Australia only as I am not licensed for any other country. Light circuits are wired in either 1.0mm (older houses) or 1.5mm cable, 240-volt circuits which are only designed to carry 10 amps (restricted by RCD/CB) Older house tend to have only 1 light circuit whereas newer house may have 2 light circuits. 3 x 700 watt panels run at max will draw 3 amps each....which only leaves 1 amp for running lights around the rest of the house (1 x light circuit) If the cable is not protected by an RCD/CB combo or Circuit Breaker then the cabling may overheat and cause a fire to start in the ceiling space.
I have house in Croatia (Pula), and i have similar situation. I am thinking about ir heating, and i would like to know how effective it is in December. Thanks
We just installed 15 panels in our home in Ireland, and LOVE THEM. We use smart regulators to run them, called IR Sun Regulator. Our home has never been warmer and no more stinky boiler, maintenance, or faulty old rads. 15 year warranty on our panels from Ekosen (based in Slovenia and serving all of Europe)
@@ronancarr we purchased ours through Infrared Heating Ireland - they did a site visit and measured, etc for the proper placement and wattage of each panel. Great company and their customer support is A+.
@@KevinWPruitt great thanks, I have seen them on line. Great to hear from someone happy with this type of heating. We are really considering going this avenue with out rebuilt of a cottage. It's very open plan now and will have vaulted ceilings so perfect for the panels .
Good for a new build. Too much disruption to install in existing house for me. Not sure existing UK twin and earth 1.5mm lighting cable would be sufficient for a 700 watt heating panel, though! Think UK installers recommend wiring into a ring main using 2.5mm twin andearth.
having put 2 of these in my villa in Spain, both mine were 500 watt and put on the wall, found them expensive to run and just take the chill off, much better was my aircon running on heat, this does work and is cheaper, but you can install gas central heating using large propane cylinders for €2400 which keeps the whole house warm and cheaper than electric
They are on a dual electric tariff where they can choose their cheap hours, so could just run them in between those hours. Plus they don't live in Spain full time, so only use when they are there for a month at a time.
Did they use standard DIY LED strips for said installation? If yes, You might be able to replace it with COB led strips [which give WAAY more light] [30W power/5M at 100%]
It's like any work you have done their is always a wholesale and retail price , they probably only paid between €150. & € 200 for each of the panel's maybe € 200 for all the other bits and pieces. € 800. Altogether and the rest profit. It's one off those if your capable you can do it yourself, if your not you pay the prise. I see you have air con in the rooms you do know you can heat your room with Aircon as well as cool. Nic
I can't comment too much as I don't go to Spain in the winter. But my parents love them, mainly because they don't like the dry blowing air of fan heaters.
@@daniel_coe Do you think the technology is suitable to replace the heating system in a UK house, in as much as can they really heat a room on a v cold day?
Crazy idea, heat rises, we have them in our timeshare in Scotland, very inefficient and will not warm the rooms up sufficiently, definitely would not recommend.
But the infra red radiation from the panels is not primarily warming the air, it warms objects, including people, who very quickly then feel warm, just as they do from sunshine. The furniture, walls etc then re-radiate to warm the air in a room. Many people vouch for the effectiveness of the system. @ThePidge1953
IR heating is much better than using oil rads. Clearly, you have no idea what you are talking about. As to were they ripped off? Yes, they were by hundreds of euros.
You´ve f*ckin ripped off..!!! In Germany same watt panels (700 or 800) are 175 t0 250 Eur each..!! And here in Germany, they give 10 years of guarantee ..!!!
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As an Electrician I would like to post a caution.
lights globes are normally a max of 100 watts whereas these panels are 700 watts each, which is likely to overload your circuits.
These panels should only be connected to power circuits (2.5 mm cable)
I will refer to Australia only as I am not licensed for any other country.
Light circuits are wired in either 1.0mm (older houses) or 1.5mm cable, 240-volt circuits which are only designed to carry 10 amps (restricted by RCD/CB)
Older house tend to have only 1 light circuit whereas newer house may have 2 light circuits.
3 x 700 watt panels run at max will draw 3 amps each....which only leaves 1 amp for running lights around the rest of the house (1 x light circuit)
If the cable is not protected by an RCD/CB combo or Circuit Breaker then the cabling may overheat and cause a fire to start in the ceiling space.
Something I am seriously considering for my 250+ years old cottage in Cumbria.
I have house in Croatia (Pula), and i have similar situation. I am thinking about ir heating, and i would like to know how effective it is in December. Thanks
We just installed 15 panels in our home in Ireland, and LOVE THEM. We use smart regulators to run them, called IR Sun Regulator. Our home has never been warmer and no more stinky boiler, maintenance, or faulty old rads. 15 year warranty on our panels from Ekosen (based in Slovenia and serving all of Europe)
I'm glad to hear a success story with infrared panels.
What is the cost per panel to buy them??
This is interesting, do they have a supplier in Ireland? How did you know how many panels or did they have a sales rep etc???
@@ronancarr we purchased ours through Infrared Heating Ireland - they did a site visit and measured, etc for the proper placement and wattage of each panel. Great company and their customer support is A+.
@@KevinWPruitt great thanks, I have seen them on line. Great to hear from someone happy with this type of heating. We are really considering going this avenue with out rebuilt of a cottage. It's very open plan now and will have vaulted ceilings so perfect for the panels .
Good for a new build. Too much disruption to install in existing house for me. Not sure existing UK twin and earth 1.5mm lighting cable would be sufficient for a 700 watt heating panel, though! Think UK installers recommend wiring into a ring main using 2.5mm twin andearth.
1.5 mm cable 15amp will carry a max of 3600 watts you would be able run up to a max of 5 x700watt heaters.
having put 2 of these in my villa in Spain, both mine were 500 watt and put on the wall, found them expensive to run and just take the chill off, much better was my aircon running on heat, this does work and is cheaper, but you can install gas central heating using large propane cylinders for €2400 which keeps the whole house warm and cheaper than electric
They are on a dual electric tariff where they can choose their cheap hours, so could just run them in between those hours. Plus they don't live in Spain full time, so only use when they are there for a month at a time.
I saw they had air con asked the same question, the trouble is a lot of people don't realise that Aircon warms as well as cools.
Did they use standard DIY LED strips for said installation?
If yes, You might be able to replace it with COB led strips [which give WAAY more light] [30W power/5M at 100%]
I couldn't quite tell, but they are not super bright LEDs. More of a glow
@@daniel_coe watched it a few time, and it looks to be your standard run of the mill cheapo ledstrips.
It's like any work you have done their is always a wholesale and retail price , they probably only paid between €150. & € 200 for each of the panel's maybe € 200 for all the other bits and pieces. € 800. Altogether and the rest profit.
It's one off those if your capable you can do it yourself, if your not you pay the prise.
I see you have air con in the rooms you do know you can heat your room with Aircon as well as cool.
Nic
Any update on how good or not these are as my friend is considering buying some for his whole house...
I can't comment too much as I don't go to Spain in the winter. But my parents love them, mainly because they don't like the dry blowing air of fan heaters.
@@daniel_coe Do you think the technology is suitable to replace the heating system in a UK house, in as much as can they really heat a room on a v cold day?
may I know brand and model of your parent' panels please? thx
Sorry, I don't know that. All I have is what's on the invoice in the video.
they have split level air con unit,can't they use that for heating?
They did use it for a bit, they didn't like the dry air - apparently.
Sounds like they could have used a €20 humidifier to put on a side table.
I'm tempted to put a IR panel in my bathroom. Thanks for the video.
Will this product work in -30
That’s useful mate. Sorry your comments area has been attacked by a company trying to generate business….
I kinda liked your video
I’ve been using IR heating in the UK for two years now , here is my latest cost and usage update ruclips.net/video/NB6bJ4X94eg/видео.html
They paid £1000 too much. 240EUR is a rip off!
Crazy idea, heat rises, we have them in our timeshare in Scotland, very inefficient and will not warm the rooms up sufficiently, definitely would not recommend.
No, warm air rises, not heat
But the heat warms the air which rises
But the infra red radiation from the panels is not primarily warming the air, it warms objects, including people, who very quickly then feel warm, just as they do from sunshine. The furniture, walls etc then re-radiate to warm the air in a room. Many people vouch for the effectiveness of the system. @ThePidge1953
hi
Wow not really sure what to say lol too expensive
I agree, I think these are too expensive
Wow your parents got ripped the heck off. All of that and they are even worse @ heating than a bog standard 2kw oil rad / heater for like £40 quid. :(
IR heating is much better than using oil rads. Clearly, you have no idea what you are talking about. As to were they ripped off? Yes, they were by hundreds of euros.
Massive rip off....unless these panels were/are of the better quality brand.
You´ve f*ckin ripped off..!!! In Germany same watt panels (700 or 800) are 175 t0 250 Eur each..!! And here in Germany, they give 10 years of guarantee ..!!!
Brand?
Koenighaus for that price & warrantee.