Dennis Patrick is great in this too. I love the weird and complicated relationship between those two men - and sometimes forgotten - them and their wives. It is how a good topical drama with political overtones is done. Something modern one track Hollywood studios should learn from. It's gritty, brutal, funny, nuanced and unsettling. It doesn't preach. It doesn't pander. It doesn't glorify. It doesn't hold back or self sensor. You can feel that Wexler and Avildsen had something to say, and said it in their own ways and their own voices, without looking to what was prudent or correct or en vogue. So refreshing!
This whole film was building to that shocking ending & he didn't even get to experience it. LOL I hope nobody is watching this video that hasn't seen the film because this too ruins the ending & it's worth seeing without having it spoiled. Nobody plays a bigot quite as well as Peter Boyle.
Great movie. Picked this one up myself last month from a charity shop for £1. Loved it, amazing performance by Boyle as joe. QT was right, i laughed a lot too while watching this one. Great piece on class and working class /conservative trash in America. Very relevant today still.
@@rustincohle2135No. And who watches a Tarantino film analysis not expecting spoilers? If I'm not interested in a movie after someone told me the ending, they've saved me time. I'm here to hear him talk about the movie, not a preview.
What kind of parents would take their 7 year old kid to see this shit? Experiences like that is probably why Quentin eventually wound up on the Lolita Express with a suspiciously small foot in his mouth.
Michael Rappaport? No thank you. That is one way to guarantee I won't watch it. The only thing I watch with him in it is True Romance and he is the weakest part of the film. This has nothing to do with his politics either (although I think his takes are trash) but the fact he starred in the least funny sitcom I have ever had the displeasure to watch. Bill Burr would be a good choice if you wanted to go East Coast with the hypothetical remake. I would prefer someone more rust belt tho
Wow, this in a double feature with Where's Poppa... that must've been a seriously acrid night at the movies. They don't make black comedies like they used to.
Tarantino is obsessed with cult films. He would give Valley of the Dolls a 10 before any Hitchcock film. His opinion is just as valid as anyone else’s. I’m just surprised how contrarian he tends to be. Hell, he loves Tony Scott… a lot. That’s fine. I just think it’s funny a director as talented as him mostly enjoys escapist films.
To be fair, Hitchcock's films were mostly escapism (well, entertainment) at the time they came out. Now they're auteur and all that but that's a different story
I think it’s a fascination that he has and I think some people give weight to his opinions because they are probably equating his ability to make a good movie to the ability to point out others.
Joe is one of those films that shines a mirror at America and shows narratively and cinematically a degree of truth about US Society. In the case of Joe, it's a perfect encapsulation of Richard Nixon and the Republican party tactic of targeting.white ethnic voters with his brand of Silent Majority politics. The film features a cross class coalition of working class Peter Boyle and upper class Dennis Patrick. Fundamentally this is the nexus and the nuclear basis of Conservatism of 21st Century: Phony populism and cross class occasional coalitions based on grievance based political extremism. Turn on Fox News, Newsmax, OAN a n d you will see this in action. Joe basically paved the way for Archie Bunker in All in the Family later on the decade .
I saw Joe when it was released, I was 19, I thought it was a ham-fisted attempt at exploiting the us-and-them sentiments within the counterculture. A couple of girls that I knew were impressed by the film. They saw Boyle's character as an archetype of contemporary youth's adversary, the straight, white, hate filled, middle aged male and the story was an example of the discord between the generations. All of that was true to a point but I thought it was too corny, too overtly manipulative.
The zeitgeist in 1970 was far different than it is today, things were more distinct and unambiguous at that time. Everything which Joe represented could be distilled down to one word, ignorance! Its not that different today, its just that now, hate has been normalized and mainstreamed.
Man, QT would be ideal to remake this movie today.
Dennis Patrick is great in this too. I love the weird and complicated relationship between those two men - and sometimes forgotten - them and their wives. It is how a good topical drama with political overtones is done. Something modern one track Hollywood studios should learn from. It's gritty, brutal, funny, nuanced and unsettling. It doesn't preach. It doesn't pander. It doesn't glorify. It doesn't hold back or self sensor. You can feel that Wexler and Avildsen had something to say, and said it in their own ways and their own voices, without looking to what was prudent or correct or en vogue. So refreshing!
Boyle and Patrick worked beautifully together.
Peter Boyle loved to play "Joe" characters like this, Crazy Joe, Tailgunner Joe and others.
His Dr. Gonzo was interesting if you're not familiar.
I only ever saw the Mad Magazine spoof of this movie. I'm going to have to watch it now.
SCHMOE Yup that's the first time I heard of it
Heh...
I'd just watched my treasured first-generation DVD copy of this three days ago; go figure.
This whole film was building to that shocking ending & he didn't even get to experience it. LOL I hope nobody is watching this video that hasn't seen the film because this too ruins the ending & it's worth seeing without having it spoiled. Nobody plays a bigot quite as well as Peter Boyle.
The conclusion was telegraphed, as soon as they picked up the guns, it was apparent how it would end.
Meh, if a movie can't hold up after I know the ending, then it's not worth my time.
Great ending and Joe made some great points in the movie.
Peter Boyle became a full blown movie star after Joe.
I wish Tarantino did the audio read for his entire book instead of just the first chapter
What's the song in the intro? 🔥 🔥
Great movie. Picked this one up myself last month from a charity shop for £1. Loved it, amazing performance by Boyle as joe.
QT was right, i laughed a lot too while watching this one. Great piece on class and working class /conservative trash in America. Very relevant today still.
Definitely needs to be done by QT or a QT type
I like the movie where Boyle plays the kinky British noble.
3:28 um.. _spoilers?_ For those who would like to see the movie, I would advise watching this _after_ you see *Joe (1970)* first.
Thank you! Does no one care about spoilers anymore?
@@rustincohle2135No. And who watches a Tarantino film analysis not expecting spoilers? If I'm not interested in a movie after someone told me the ending, they've saved me time. I'm here to hear him talk about the movie, not a preview.
I’m surprised this movie was never referenced in South Park. I mean this film is right up Cartman’s alley😂
👍👍👍
Where is this audio from. I like hearing Tarantino without all the umm and ahh ahh’s. He’s clearyreading
The audiobook of Cinema Speculation
What kind of parents would take their 7 year old kid to see this shit? Experiences like that is probably why Quentin eventually wound up on the Lolita Express with a suspiciously small foot in his mouth.
What the hell is the Lolita Express?
Who'd play Joe today? Michael Rappaport.
Dude hell yeah
Bill Burr?
Anthony Cumia.
Jesse Plemons
Michael Rappaport? No thank you. That is one way to guarantee I won't watch it. The only thing I watch with him in it is True Romance and he is the weakest part of the film. This has nothing to do with his politics either (although I think his takes are trash) but the fact he starred in the least funny sitcom I have ever had the displeasure to watch. Bill Burr would be a good choice if you wanted to go East Coast with the hypothetical remake. I would prefer someone more rust belt tho
Wow, this in a double feature with Where's Poppa... that must've been a seriously acrid night at the movies.
They don't make black comedies like they used to.
Weird double-bill
Tarantino is obsessed with cult films. He would give Valley of the Dolls a 10 before any Hitchcock film. His opinion is just as valid as anyone else’s. I’m just surprised how contrarian he tends to be. Hell, he loves Tony Scott… a lot. That’s fine. I just think it’s funny a director as talented as him mostly enjoys escapist films.
Escapist films are usually more fun.
To be fair, Hitchcock's films were mostly escapism (well, entertainment) at the time they came out. Now they're auteur and all that but that's a different story
I think it’s a fascination that he has and I think some people give weight to his opinions because they are probably equating his ability to make a good movie to the ability to point out others.
Joe is one of those films that shines a mirror at America and shows narratively and cinematically a degree of truth about US Society.
In the case of Joe, it's a perfect encapsulation of Richard Nixon and the Republican party tactic of targeting.white ethnic voters with his brand of Silent Majority politics.
The film features a cross class coalition of working class Peter Boyle and upper class Dennis Patrick.
Fundamentally this is the nexus and the nuclear basis of Conservatism of 21st Century: Phony populism and cross class occasional coalitions based on grievance based political extremism.
Turn on Fox News, Newsmax, OAN a n d you will see this in action.
Joe basically paved the way for Archie Bunker in All in the Family later on the decade .
LOL
So you support antifa, blm rioters and child groomers? AKA: Leftists?
You should be ashamed of yourself, you unbearable creep.
@@NobodyLovesLifeare you auditioning for the remake? 😂
I love it when flaming liberals do their take on what they think conservatives are. It's so cringe. They had no clue then, and there no clue now
true it’s hard to parody what is already a joke. 😂
And neither do the Repugs.
Both sides strawman the other’s positions
@@reddykilowatt You don't get it either.. lol
@@nunyabusiness3666 who doesn’t get it? conservatives haven’t won the popular vote in 20 years as they drift further away from reality. 😂
I saw Joe when it was released, I was 19, I thought it was a ham-fisted attempt at exploiting the us-and-them sentiments within the counterculture. A couple of girls that I knew were impressed by the film. They saw Boyle's character as an archetype of contemporary youth's adversary, the straight, white, hate filled, middle aged male and the story was an example of the discord between the generations. All of that was true to a point but I thought it was too corny, too overtly manipulative.
Lol, this isn't so girls type of film that they go to. Especially given the time when it was released.
Quentin Tarantino on Sir Christopher Nolan?
not everything joe says is wrong tho. 🇺🇸
You Manbabies just never understand you're the villains
@@scotthardie5141 You've been friend zoned more times than I've had hot dinners my guy 😂
The zeitgeist in 1970 was far different than it is today, things were more distinct and unambiguous at that time. Everything which Joe represented could be distilled down to one word, ignorance! Its not that different today, its just that now, hate has been normalized and mainstreamed.
@@scotthardie5141 Poor cupcake.
Joe is hero.
?
Joe is like Archie without the humor.