absolutely. The 4070Ti should have 16GB at least (same price, or $50 less!), and that's true all the way down. Everything except the 4090 should have at least 4GB extra. There are game devs already calling for cards with 32GB.
@@rodney7564yeah if they do only increase the vram size and do not increase the bus bandwidth you will still get into problems with more vram demanding games. So there is that too.
128 bit bus can accomodate only 4 vram chips (128 bit = 32 x 4 vram chips at 2GB). How are they going to do a 4060 16GB? Unless they produce a different 4060 GPU with 256 bit bus. But I don't care anymore; I bought a 7900 XT a week ago and it is a blast!
They would not redesign the GPU for that. Just the PCB. Doing double-sided VRAM to double the existing capacity on 128-bit bus is always an option. Congrats on your purchase! I am glad that 7900 XT serves you well🙂
The process of creating a new CPU or a GPU takes years. The cards might have been already planned out before the 8gb concerns even showed up. That might be why we're suddenly getting a 16gb, as it's easier to just double the VRAM on the 128-bit bus.
All quiet for now. AMD can't compete with RTX 4090. So, NVIDIA is in no rush to release 4090 Ti. Good news is that AMD's inability to compete actually increases the possibility of TITAN being released.
2:17 Second consecutive time they've done that, but they technically did it with the 900 series as well. They released a 4GB model of the 960 eventually while the 970 really only had 3.5 lol.
8 gb is still enough for 1440p and 1080p on optimized games, atomic heart, jedi survivor actually doesn't use that much vram but it buffers more than it needs, god of war 2018,spiderman, forza horizon 5, etc, there are plenty of games which can look amazing with "only" 8 gbs of vram..
Well, people back then said the same about the 1060. 3 GB of VRAM is more than enough apparently. Has been proven incredibly wrong. Same will be the same about 8 GB of VRAM. Just to tell you something: My 7 years old 1070 has 8 gb of VRAM. I expect that in 7 years of time that the vram should at least increase by 50%, especially since people has started to move towards 2k and 4k. Also, it is incredibly stupid to pay 500+€ for a GPU that last only for one or two years. If I pay that much I expect it to last at least 4 years aka 2 generations of GPU. And to think that an 7 years old GPU can equalize in VRAM to an 2023 GPU that costs that much is even crazier. I see ZERO reasons to protect Nvidia from critisms.
@@Kirnale never protected anyone or justified nvidia for still selling 8 gb gpus, i'm only saying that plenty of games exist, which look amazing on 8 gb vram, even recent releases, nothing more, nothing less.
@@theivadim The difference between the 4060 Ti and 4070 will be a very small margin and with the 16 GB of VRAM the 4060 Ti will even outperform the 4070 due to the 4070 having only 12 GB at more VRAM taxing games. I don't think people will buy the 4070 when the 4060 Ti will have 16 GB. As for memory bus the 4060 Ti will probably receive a 256-bit bus since 192 bit won't support 16 GB therefore the 4060 Ti 16 GB will be even better than the 4070 thanks to the higher memory bandwith.
@@truereaper4572 Neither is between the 8 GB and 12 GB yet people still choose 12 GB because 4 GB of extra VRAM does make a difference. Not to mention the 4060 Ti will receive a 256 bit bus most likely meaning that it'll even be faster than the 8 GB version putting it very close to the 4070.
It is crazy that they add ram to one of the slowest products but not the one that couls genuinely benefit from it. A 4070 ti would be so good with 24gb of alightly faster vram. Nvidia could easily add $150. Nvidia wont do it though because that would make that card viable for too long. Planned obsolescence. 😊
😅 300,000 set 8gb 4060 ti already made completed too late to change to 16gb version. So Clearing 8gb 4060 ti is a must nowaday. Making room for 16gb model coming july lol. 😅 8gb in year 2023 Rtx 4060 ti again😂 gamer can Throw it away 4060 ti again as usual😅
It seems that the only option NVIDIA has is to offer the 4060 Ti 8GB with a truly competitive price tag. This is to entice buyers who don't play the latest AAA games and just want more FPS in their current AAA games and competitive titles. However, given NVIDIA's reluctance to lower GPU prices, I expect the 4060 Ti 8GB to be yet another poorly-selling graphics card.
Yeah... the entire mid-range 40-gen is a generational uplift disaster. Why would you really buy this card? Even if it gets 16 GB of Vram it's clear from the performance graphs that it doesn't pack enough horsepower to be an enticing buy.
@@theivadim That's true, but I feel even "cheap" for this generation will still be too much for a product that doesn't really deliver good performance going forward. It remains to be seen- For someone upgrading from a really old card, then maybe... if the price is right. 3-400 is still quite a lot money for a lot of people in times like these and in Europe you could probably add 25% to that. You would want that card to deliver a good performance now and to last for some time. I feel Nvidia is just delivering the bare minimum and pushing DLSS3 to "make up for it".
@@iseeu-fp9po DLSS 3... I foresee that NVIDIA will present RTX 4060 Ti as being 2-4x faster than RTX 3090. Or something along those lines😄 Featuring DLSS 3 FPS graphs.
Do you agree that NVIDIA should give more memory to all RTX 40 cards?
They're going to have to increase vram. My next gpu will have a minimum of 16gb of vram and I'm sure a lot of other people feel the same way.
Well, that's a lot more VRAM for a 3070 Ti performance...just get a RX 6800XT already...
Will if they want them to sell, then yeah. I'm not even going to consider anything less then 16 GB for the next GPU upgrade.
absolutely. The 4070Ti should have 16GB at least (same price, or $50 less!), and that's true all the way down. Everything except the 4090 should have at least 4GB extra. There are game devs already calling for cards with 32GB.
8gb vram is the new 4gb vram
Nvidia need to stop make 8gb vram card for mid range....
im not a computer guru, but who would still want a 4070 TI with 12gig VRAM if they can get a 4060 TI with 16 gig VRAM for less money?
RTX 4060 Ti performance is way worse than RTX 4070 Ti. So, that is still a selling point.
@@theivadim thank you for that feedback cuzz i want to but the 4070TI but was holding back cuzz of the 4060TI release
@@rodney7564yeah if they do only increase the vram size and do not increase the bus bandwidth you will still get into problems with more vram demanding games. So there is that too.
''The company is ONCE AGAIN listening to the community's concerns.''
lol
That 4060 is looking good. I was aiming to buy a 3060, but might wait for the 4060.
nvidia already confirmed that 16gb 4060 ti will be launched at july.
128 bit bus can accomodate only 4 vram chips (128 bit = 32 x 4 vram chips at 2GB). How are they going to do a 4060 16GB? Unless they produce a different 4060 GPU with 256 bit bus.
But I don't care anymore; I bought a 7900 XT a week ago and it is a blast!
They would not redesign the GPU for that. Just the PCB. Doing double-sided VRAM to double the existing capacity on 128-bit bus is always an option.
Congrats on your purchase! I am glad that 7900 XT serves you well🙂
The process of creating a new CPU or a GPU takes years. The cards might have been already planned out before the 8gb concerns even showed up. That might be why we're suddenly getting a 16gb, as it's easier to just double the VRAM on the 128-bit bus.
Anything on a 4090Ti or even a TITAN class GPU for the 40 series?
All quiet for now. AMD can't compete with RTX 4090. So, NVIDIA is in no rush to release 4090 Ti. Good news is that AMD's inability to compete actually increases the possibility of TITAN being released.
But at what price🙂 $3K maybe?😄
2:17 Second consecutive time they've done that, but they technically did it with the 900 series as well. They released a 4GB model of the 960 eventually while the 970 really only had 3.5 lol.
Good point. It's become a bad habit(it seems).🙂
8 gb is still enough for 1440p and 1080p on optimized games, atomic heart, jedi survivor actually doesn't use that much vram but it buffers more than it needs, god of war 2018,spiderman, forza horizon 5, etc, there are plenty of games which can look amazing with "only" 8 gbs of vram..
Yes, but the vram requirements are growing all the time. An 8gb gpu will have problems in the next few years in newer games.
Well, we are in the second phase of this generation...8 GB VRAM is entry level for the future.
Well, people back then said the same about the 1060. 3 GB of VRAM is more than enough apparently. Has been proven incredibly wrong. Same will be the same about 8 GB of VRAM. Just to tell you something: My 7 years old 1070 has 8 gb of VRAM. I expect that in 7 years of time that the vram should at least increase by 50%, especially since people has started to move towards 2k and 4k.
Also, it is incredibly stupid to pay 500+€ for a GPU that last only for one or two years. If I pay that much I expect it to last at least 4 years aka 2 generations of GPU. And to think that an 7 years old GPU can equalize in VRAM to an 2023 GPU that costs that much is even crazier. I see ZERO reasons to protect Nvidia from critisms.
We had 8 GB cards since the RX 480 and that's a very old GPU. 8 GB in 2023 is the new 4 GB.
@@Kirnale never protected anyone or justified nvidia for still selling 8 gb gpus, i'm only saying that plenty of games exist, which look amazing on 8 gb vram, even recent releases, nothing more, nothing less.
16 GB 4060 Ti... RIP RTX 4070!
Don't you think that performance difference will still be enough to sway buyers towards RTX 4070 even though it has less VRAM?
@@theivadim The difference between the 4060 Ti and 4070 will be a very small margin and with the 16 GB of VRAM the 4060 Ti will even outperform the 4070 due to the 4070 having only 12 GB at more VRAM taxing games. I don't think people will buy the 4070 when the 4060 Ti will have 16 GB.
As for memory bus the 4060 Ti will probably receive a 256-bit bus since 192 bit won't support 16 GB therefore the 4060 Ti 16 GB will be even better than the 4070 thanks to the higher memory bandwith.
@@laszlozsurka8991 12GB vs 16GB of vram isn't that big of a difference, the 4070 will still be considerably faster than the 4060ti.
@@truereaper4572 Neither is between the 8 GB and 12 GB yet people still choose 12 GB because 4 GB of extra VRAM does make a difference. Not to mention the 4060 Ti will receive a 256 bit bus most likely meaning that it'll even be faster than the 8 GB version putting it very close to the 4070.
@@laszlozsurka8991 8GB vs 12GB is in no way comparable to 12GB vs 16GB.
Nobody needs this card!
It would be much more better if we get rtx3070 with 16gb vram under 599dollars
It is crazy that they add ram to one of the slowest products but not the one that couls genuinely benefit from it. A 4070 ti would be so good with 24gb of alightly faster vram. Nvidia could easily add $150. Nvidia wont do it though because that would make that card viable for too long. Planned obsolescence. 😊
😅 300,000 set 8gb 4060 ti already made completed too late to change to 16gb version. So Clearing 8gb 4060 ti is a must nowaday. Making room for 16gb model coming july lol. 😅 8gb in year 2023 Rtx 4060 ti again😂 gamer can Throw it away 4060 ti again as usual😅
It seems that the only option NVIDIA has is to offer the 4060 Ti 8GB with a truly competitive price tag. This is to entice buyers who don't play the latest AAA games and just want more FPS in their current AAA games and competitive titles. However, given NVIDIA's reluctance to lower GPU prices, I expect the 4060 Ti 8GB to be yet another poorly-selling graphics card.
i think the highest vram memory nvidia can offer is 12gb to save their rtx 4070....else nobody want to buy the rtx 4070. 😂
🤣 faulty May production batch 8gb 4060 ti😂& Force gamer to absorb buy again. Sorry gamers is not a fools. All shall wait for 16gb 4060ti july batch
Yeah... the entire mid-range 40-gen is a generational uplift disaster. Why would you really buy this card? Even if it gets 16 GB of Vram it's clear from the performance graphs that it doesn't pack enough horsepower to be an enticing buy.
All depends on the price. Unfortunately, NVIDIA doesn't have the best track record when it comes to pricing its products low.
@@theivadim That's true, but I feel even "cheap" for this generation will still be too much for a product that doesn't really deliver good performance going forward. It remains to be seen- For someone upgrading from a really old card, then maybe... if the price is right. 3-400 is still quite a lot money for a lot of people in times like these and in Europe you could probably add 25% to that. You would want that card to deliver a good performance now and to last for some time. I feel Nvidia is just delivering the bare minimum and pushing DLSS3 to "make up for it".
@@iseeu-fp9po DLSS 3... I foresee that NVIDIA will present RTX 4060 Ti as being 2-4x faster than RTX 3090. Or something along those lines😄 Featuring DLSS 3 FPS graphs.
@@theivadim Hehe, maybe. :P
yensen juan 0_0
😅 8Gb in year 2023 Rtx 4060 ti again😂 gamer can Throw it away 4060 ti again as usual😊
😂 bye bye RIP 4060 ti 8gb again😅. Scrap it then.