Kung Fu: What is XingYiQuan? Part 2 | ART OF ONE DOJO
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Today we continue the discussion on Kung Fu: What is XingYiQuan in part 2 of this two video series. In the first video we learned the history, development, and philosophy of the art. In this episode we are going to look at the animal forms and curriculum of this system.
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I've been practicing Xing Yi on and off for about 20 years. This was a really good explanation. Nice. I just dont know why this system isnt more popular. Its very easy to get into, but takes a lifetime to master.
Small trivia: One Xingyiquan master Wang Xiangzhai would later streamline the system and create Yiquan (later developed into Dachengquan by his students). He also taught Yiquan to Kenichi Sawai and it came to be known as Ikken/Taikiken in Japan. Taikiken would later become incorporated into Kyokushin Karate by Mas Oyama, a friend and student of Kenichi Sawai.
@Jonathan Bluestein that is correct in fact one of Sosai Oyama Masutatsu's former students, sort to speak as well as former Kyokushin Karate world champion, who now teaches his own version of Kyokushin Karate, incorporating Tai Ki Ken, as well as elements of mixed martial arts, is Shihan Kazumi Hajime!
@Jonathan Bluestein I've read that it was in the original synthesis of Kyokushin Karate, although later practitioners forgo the practice and Oyama's students are trying to bring it back.
Yiquan seems to me much more limited. Plus from videos on here it seems geared towards questionable pushing people away with little contact
You can still see old RUclips videos of Taikiken vs Kyokushin exponents comparing notes in sparring. I love how objective and respectful the discussions in this channel are. All the best and thanks for creating these interesting videos.
@@MrFabiomassid it's somehwta the opposite.
Yiquan is the simplification of power into one form.
It's the equivalent of Little Bear Paw in Xingyiliuhequan, but all that force into one single fist.
External arts are often free form. You learn the methods and how to apply these methods and then how you apply them is up to you.
The older generation doesn't even know a single one of the 12 animals. The animals guides of application using the methods.
I've looked for an outline of the basic principles of Xing Yi and have seen videos that have bits and pieces that really didn't explain the the general idea of the overall art. This is a very comprehensive overview of the art, that has helped me to get a basic understanding of the entire scope as a whole. Very good video! Thanks for sharing!
Awesome video. Maybe you should make a video about BaJi Quan
How long would you think it would take to be proficient in BajiQuan, if practiced on a regular(at least 3-5 times a week)?
Beautiful i practiced Taiji, Xing yi, and Ba Gua from a great master and things you say here open my mind about the art even more, Thank you
Though I don't practice any of these martial arts, I still enjoy hearing this content.
Was skeptical of this channel at first, but great job!
Thank you! I hope you stick with us and check out more videos and become a regular here :)
Love Xingyi Quan, very versatile art, thank you. Could you do a video on Chinese Swordsmanship and Swordplay? Wudang and Longquan styles for example. I've always loved Chinese swords and the flowy movements of Chinese swordsmanship.
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Thank you AOOD. Any and all opinions of Hsing Yi Ch'uan are useful and welcome. I started the practice of Hsing Yi almost forty years ago. It is important to remember that as each teacher of Hsing Yi grows, the art he inherited will morph and change as his individual understanding increases. Initially many students find themselves engrossed with the Hsing or form of practice. And later, if their lucky, their art will increasingly reflect the Yi aspect. Form being subordinate to intention. As every internal art should be. Otherwise the student is left skimming superficially along the surface of the art. Never experiencing its deeper, more profound, qualities. After many years I am still a student. Like real karate everything is settled with speed and power. And usually in a single strike. But even though one wins in combat, if the situation has devolved into conflict. Have I not lost my way ?
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great video. could you make a bajiquan video next please ?
Excellent video! Could you please do a video on Southern Praying mantis Kung Fu?
Thanks
Great job Dan!...and what a çool and informative video as well! Wow, this video brought me back to the days I used to go to Times Square in NYC during the late 1970's as a kid, and go watch all sorts of Gung Fu/Wu Shu movies with my friends. I was wondering what movies used particular martial arts... especially the older ones. That could be a whole topic for another video!..... maybe. 😁👍
Funny how so many of your videos answer so many questions, yet evoke so many other inquiries. I believe that's how you know you are doing a great job Dan. Well done! 💥
Awesome second video chronicling the combat art, of Xing Yi Quan Kung Fu Sensei Dan. I do remember reading about it in various martial arts books, as well as articles in numerous, martial arts publications. I also recall that an author, journalist and also martial arts practitioner herself, Jane Hollander wrote a great book called: 'The Complete Guide to Kung Fu Fighting Styles'! This book documented most of the well known, as well some of the lesser known, more eclectic styles of Kung Fu.
Xing Yi Quan was discussed in great detail, along with some of its most prolific practitioners. I remember reading that together with Tai Chi Quan, as well as Bagua Quan, Xing Yi Quan is one of the three, main, internal Kung Fu systems. I do recall that most Xing Yi Quan Kung Fu styles, teach the five elements fists, however as you mentioned here, that the twelve animals styles, may differ slightly from one martial arts school to another.
The sticky hands, training that you mentioned here in this second and final video, looks very reminiscent and similar, to Wing Chun Kung Fu's sticky hands drills and application. Xing Yi Quan also looks to me, like what they typically categorise in Chinese martial arts, as short arm boxing, usually found in the Southern styles of Kung Fu. While in contrast something like Drunken Kung Fu fist for example is more and generally a long arm boxing style, by comparison. I truly enjoyed watching these two videos series on Xi Yi Quan Kung Fu, very well researched, chronicled, explained and presented as usual Sensei Dan. Excellent job of which I am looking forward to further possible Kung Fu systems videos in the future, should you be able to do more of them.😊👍🇦🇺🥋Osu!
@jakubkalinamalina agreed just like Wing Chun Kung Fu is originally a style created in the North of China, however due its minimal low kicking techniques, as well as its short range hand techniques, it is classified as a Southern Kung Fu style, plus the fact that at least in its beginnings, most of its exponents were from the Southern regions of China.
Another great and informative video Dan. I never heard of an alligator used as an animal symbol of a martial art style. I learned a lot from these two videos about this Kung Fu/Wushu discipline.
@Jonathan Bluestein Xie xie ni Shifu Bluestein. I only took 7 Star Praying Mantis Kung Fu for six months but my Shifu (Raul Ortiz whom you can find here) taught me much and guided me toward my karateka path. Again xie xie for the exchange of knowledge so Dan can make this video but also sparking my curiosity to learn more about XingYiQuan.
This video actually did THE MOST decent explanation of that animal's put to use in fighting in this style, to be really honest. I even smiled thinking "finally someone gets it".
This is great content. Love the over summary and dive into the art. 💙😎🙏🏼
I know I’m late in this but I am loving the explanation of the different animal techniques and how they don’t represent the actual animal styled kung fu. They look so well applicable if done correctly and trained for self-defense. Hope to see videos of the animal styled kung fu, Drunken Fist and Bajiquan
Can you tell us more about Kajukenbo and tiger claw kung fu
Both of those arts on the list of episodes we'd like to do :)
@@ArtofOneDojo great I look forward to it
Gratitude for the perspective
It's always interesting to see arts that I have never trained in teach the many of the same fundamental principles of movement I have learned and teach myself even though I come from very different tradition. Teaching methodologies maybe different, but the goal is the same.
Thank you for putting so much effort into this series! :) Will you do Bagua Chuan next?
We will develop this one eventually but it won't be the next video. We have some other arts ahead of it :)
Baqua excellent art to do, Thank you for doing these whenever my students need to do martial arts research I think I'll send them to the art of one dojo first.
Kung fu trivia - gong fu means skill in Chinese, wushu means fighting or martial art, which means wushu gong fu translates to fighting skill!
Jonathan Bluestein yes!
Nice video Mr. Dan
That was a great and very informative video you presented. It seems that you did and put a lot of research into your video. I, originally, never heard of Xingyiquan before, I have always practiced Kenpo (Tracy system and some Ed Parker) and Shaolin. Now I am embarking on Tai Chi Chuan. I always considered other styles as important and rich resources of learning different styles and forms. Thank you for all of the information about these different martial arts systems. I am grateful for Bluestein’s research. I hope in the near future you can present information and demonstrations on the different Tai Chi Chuan forms/styles, like Yang, Wu, Chen, Sun, etc. Since the Yang style of Tai Chi is very prevalent. Again, thank you for your hard work and great educational source material. Keep them coming, God Bless!
Both videos did the art most justice on RUclips than any other video you'll find on RUclips about the art. I am pleased.
This was wonderful: thank you!
Pretty good sum up of the art. It should also be noted that the original school (Shanxi Province families) have anywhere from 2-9 changes in the appearance of the five fists as well as the 12 animals. I was taught that every time you practice you should be able to create a new form/taolu.
Wonderful stuff! Please keep some of the other Chinese arts in mind for future clips. Love the channel.
Great video, as always. :)
Thank you for putting this together.
Really enjoyed this two part series. Looking forward to future videos on Chinese martial arts
Cool work coach 👏👍
Very well presented!
Impressive presentation!
Great and informative video
Superb. Well informative. Thank you.
Great video, i suggest doing taichi next, theres a great channel called triessence martial art that explains the internal martial arts physics, and taichi history, i recommend learning taichi history from him
Awesome job sir
Finally on part 2
Can you do a video on Kyusho Jitsu and Kung Fu animal styles
I saw the viedo on Ben Der I thought that was a Great interview , you don't see much on him I train with Sifu Eddie Chung from Satcrowmento calf., keep up the Great work info
Very good video! Tahnks
More of these please bro
We have more in the works! :D
Very nice!
xie xie, Art of One Dojo, excellent video
Awesome video Dan! Perhaps maybe the next kung fu video could be about a rare kung fu style called Huaquan ?
I would have to look more into that one, I'm not familiar with it. We do currently have a few other arts in the works :)
Choy Li Fut Wing Chun Hung Gar for example the triple crown of Nanquan
Once again you outdone yourself, but question! What martial art you plan to talk about next after this one?
Thank you :) Next....we have a couple we're working on at the same time so I'm not sure which one will come out first, but we're working on Judo, Shotokan, and Wing Chun (and BJJ eventually after Judo).
And we also have another collaboration in the works with Sensei Ichi. We're trying to keep a balance and go back and forth between Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Kempo, and eventually other global arts (like Indian and Polynesian)
@@ArtofOneDojo my opinion I think Judo should be the next martial art to talk about, I would love to see you explain the history and the training, mostly cause I plan to take up Judo in the future, I asked friends and my sensei what grappling I should take up after Karate, and they recommend Judo!
@@ArtofOneDojo I just started doing Wing Chun last week. I would love to see your video on it soon!
Please also do a video on TRADITIONAL and AUTHENTIC northern shaolin kungfu
How would you even define traditional and authentic?
It’s interesting watching people of different families of xing yi somehow feeling familiar but still drastically different
Good job! If you are planning any videos about Wing Chun/Ving Tsun, I would recommend contacting Sifu David Peterson
Kiyah!!!!!
ok now I'm pretty sure I see a bear in there! is there more information on the animal influences, fighting spirit of the other animals I think that part was very interesting. I'd say when I grapple I'm a strange mix of Rooster and Alligator concepts, not that I have ever trained in kung fu.
@jakubkalinamalina I will, I don't suppose where you learnd has videos becuse bear influence information is soemthing I was trying to study
@jakubkalinamalina there are a few mike pattersons is his the only martial arts one with the name?
Hi, Mr. Dan. I appreciate your two-part series on xingyiquan, but is it possible that xingyi is not “based on the ten celestial stems and the twelve earthly branches” but rather on five basic movements inspired by spear work, the way Western boxing is based on just a few basic punches (jab, cross, hook, uppercut)? Daoists today see themselves as practicing one of China's native religions, not an import from India like Buddhism, and they've been working hard to appropriate Chinese martial arts like xingyi and taiji. In my opinion, taiji, while highly refined, takes Luohanquan and shuaijiao (popular wrestling) as its foundation, to which were later added other elements. Shuaijiao has roots in antiquity older than any other martial art, and some form was always taught to the military for its simplicity and practicality. In taiji, the yin-yang theory of duality makes sense because of the mechanics of that art. But superimposing complex Daoist cosmology on xingyi feels both foreign and unnecessary to an art made elegant by its simplicity, and adds nothing to its practical benefit. Since Daoists were traditionally concerned with health, longevity and immortality and not martial arts, you see the Daoist angle makes no sense at all here. Cheers! (^_^)
Are you saying that taoist philosophy should not be applied to Xingyi?
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sir can you do a video about shinkendo if you have not already done one?
So Can you do one Ba Guazhang?
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do Bajiquan next?
Recently I saw an interesting video on RUclips from McDojo life called McDojo breakdown violence in the dojo, have you heard of it seen it what do you think basically it’s security camera in a training studio, a guy walks in during a test and is told to just be quiet and don’t disrupt, I don’t know if he has ADD or COD or something but he doesn’t stay still and is told several times not to be distracting or he’ll have to leave, finally after it keeps going he’s told to leave but he argues and complaining it escalates to a fight, who I think is the instructor grapples with him and takes him outside then the police is called, have you experienced anything like this how did or how would you deal with it
That video is at: ruclips.net/video/YV89vgQuDlo/видео.html
I know this video is a year old, but I was wondering if you plan to continue the series as you had planned?
We are, the Chinese arts take a lot more research as my experience and networking isn't as robust as in some of the other arts. We do have a few in development.
Please for the love of GAWDDDD review the Jesse Eisenberg movie Art of Self Defense!!! Can you also tell what style of Karate is in that movie?
would love to see a crossover project with the Xingyi Academy channel if y'all ever still went deeper into this art.
Doa6 Eliot I would learn this but I’m learning capoeira but I don’t want to be restricting my learning however there are no school of xing yi quan in London 😥😥
Maybe try tai chi or bagua instead?
I see some similarities to the Goju Karate I learned.
I was unsubbed for some reason,nice video by the way
What qualities does the tai bird have?
2:12 looks like bajiquan
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Is ninpo from hsing I
The development is different according to Wang Peisheng, in that the Wuquan was the origins, and later the twelve animals was developed when more techniques were needed as martial arts skill developed over time.
What happened to the two-man creation-destruction form? If you want another opinion taught Taijiquan, Xingyiquan, Baguazhang, and Tongbeiquan from a person who studied directly from Wang Peiseng, go to ycgf.org..
Usually the student is taught the 5 fists first. Then the animals are added later.
In the development of Xingyiquan, the animals existed first. The 5 fists were added later. That is why the older Xinyi systems don't have the the 5 fist forms. The question remains though, where did the 5 fists come from and how old are they? Created by the Dai family? Or are they an older tradition that the Dai learned from somewhere else?
Each of the 12 animal forms in Xingyiquan could be its own “system” of kung fu.
It's good to know but I don't think I'll be practicing this martial arts.
Excellent video. I'm just curious why are these arts being discussed, when there is no direct lineage to Japanese karate?
Why does there have to be a connection to Japanese Karate? We cover all sorts of different aspects of the martial arts and we're offering some Chinese arts in addition to American, Japanese, Okinawan, Korean, and eventually Brazilian, Polynesian, Indian, and more.
Cool (TAoLU ^_^)
Ineffective
Yep, this comment definitely was ineffective.
@@ArtofOneDojo Lol just saying it how it is. These masters would get embarrassed by a street brawler.
Now while I would agree in some situations, a simple blanket viewpoint just doesn't work. Yes, there are a lot of masters out there that can't fight, but there are also a lot that CAN. And just because someone is a street brawler does not automatically make them a GOOD fighter or automatically able to beat anyone else in traditional martial arts. I have sparred against great traditional martial artists and bad, and I've also sparred again great MMA fighters (and bad). Comes down to the individual. I've seen street fighters beaten by traditional martial artists and vice versa.
That being said, there are hundreds of types of Kung Fu systems, and they've been around for thousands of years so at some point for someone they worked. Do they work for everyone? No, of course not, but to say they are "ineffective" is a bit of a blind viewpoint. There are also other things to get out of a martial art other than just fighting.
@@LibraryAstro My Sifu is 5'5". he was mobbed by three dudes in DC and sent them all to the hospital with broken bones. you're clueless.
People get out of your way
Jesus Christ, this guy's Xing Yi is terrible.
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I didn't want to say it
could you give an example of someone who's XingYi you consider not terrible?
@@adamshechter2736 There are lots of people who are not terrible. I'm not a huge fan of Master Hai Yangs style of Xing Yi (shown in the video) but at least its good, and looks like Xing Yi. He moves like Xing Yi. Whether it's Henan, Hebei, or Shanxi a Xing Yi practitioner would look at Master Hai Yang and go, "Yeah, that's Xing Yi." They may not do things the same way but I see where he's coming from and he could bloody a nose.
Bluestein looks like he's walked into a cobweb and is furiously trying to extricate himself from it. It's bad. There's no other way to cut it. The swallow at 4:54 is cringe inducing.
I recognize I'm being kind of a dick here. But, dude is calling himself a Master. Internal Kung Fu has a bad enough reputation as it is.
Every thing at 3:05 it's so very bad. What the hell is even that hop? I am rewatching this video again asking myself, "maybe I'm being too harsh..." No... oh my God no. It's so bad.
@@jaredglenn3165 is there a RUclips video you think properly displays technique you consider superb?
These demonstrations are not trustable. Fizicaly weak man cannot fight, one hook or jebb and fight is finished. No one martial art can exist without fizical force and power. power = forse + speed+ mass. if you want to see real XingTi quan , have to watch Lei Tai fighting.
Hmmm, karate guy talking Chinese internal arts? Interesting, but I'll pass on this one. Get real.
You clearly didn't watch more than a few seconds or else you would have heard me say this project was a collaboration with an expert on the subject and bringing new arts to our viewers.
Try keeping an open mind, it's how we learn.