WHY NHL 24 SUCKS PT2 (and how I would fix it) | imhence

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  • Опубликовано: 14 ноя 2024

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  • @redheadchickens
    @redheadchickens Год назад +4

    Super down to earth. You admit you may have a lack of skill but still present your issues with the game in a great down to earth way. You are awesome and your insight is appreciated. I got a long comment so buckle up, and post your responses:
    Im personally on a heater through Div 3, like Im winning 8-9/10 games right now. I play slower and play behind the net which seems to be working effectively to score consistently. The amount of AI penalties is crazy. My opponent quit after his 6th penalty in the first period, I’ve had multiple 5-6 penalty games. This needs to be cut down to 1 expected AI penalty every 10 games, not at least 2+ AI penalties per game.
    Another crazy thing that happened: The opponent got a penalty, I bumped my own player in the neutral zone and lost the puck, the goalie skated right by the dribbling puck in the slot that went into my own net. Which obviously would never happen in the NHL, the goalie would bump it with his stick.
    I use to have games last years where I would dominate puck possession, but I would still lose to the glitch goals. So I do like you are rewarded for puck possession with the pressure system, so I do feel this is a good thing. But shouldn’t icing should kill a 3rd of the pressure bar sometimes my players are to exhausted to get to the red line without being crushed.
    Hitting needs to be dialed down by a lot, I turned off vibration because of how many hits were happening. In rivals burst, average combined hits were 50-60 in the game in DIV 3, that’s 8-10 hits per minute which is ridiculous. (Born leader is your friend, I got it on the TB Nieundyck)
    I agree the content as been extremely terrible. The whole headliner debacle was disheartening, the awards being nerfed hurt but I’m glad they fixed them for rivals.
    I love the power up collectables for all upgrading MSPs idea. But Shouldn’t you get more than one per hut champ collectables? It cost 4 to get from 82-86 on the HL MSP, imagine when it’s 85-94 ovr MSPs. They will be extremely expensive. It cost 5 puc to get from 88-90 on Mario/Gretz/Howe, so it might cost like 20 PU Collectables for 85-94 MSPs. Henreek stated that 11 wins in champs gets you 7 champs collectables, so it would take 3 weeks to upgrade a later MSP through champs. It costs 5 85s for 3 puc, so later down the line it might costs up 20-25x 85 ovr to maybe upgrade an MSP halfway. It’s a lot of good ideas this year, but poor execution. Clearly EA didn’t have anyone from the community play test HUT beforehand because this is feedback that would’ve been given.
    Last years free MSP per event was amazing, and they straight abandoned it. To fix content, they should go back to 5 days a week no matter what, give free MSPS by using event cards, so for HL the objectives should reward 4 puc and 1 hlc for a free MSP.
    Base McDavid should not be an 86 ovr, I remember back in NHL14 where base Crosby was a 94 ovr and was useable all year. Yea he had upgrade cards here and there, but with Matthews, Mackinnon, Rantanen, Mcdavid, makar all starting at 84-86 ovr. If I wanted to use one of those guys, I would have to shell out 50k-150k every time they get a better card which is one overall higher? Like the progression is clearly going to be slower, and the content makes you feel like you have to grind more for less. That recipe is going to lose the community.
    Edit: For the love of god EA, get rid of the new animations celebrations for goals and go back to the old one. Those animations are not skippable and they should be, no body wants to watch another player wave for 5-7 seconds for a goal celebration for the 5th time in a row.

    • @EastCoast5066
      @EastCoast5066 Год назад +1

      They need to get off power up for all players it's to costly..they need to go back to collectibles to power up event player much better system that way and earn them by playing the game

  • @colesonmartens8039
    @colesonmartens8039 Год назад +3

    I just went back to 23 and fuck it feels SO GOOD. So smooth and fast. I can’t stress enough how slow and clunky 24 is. I tried and tried since release date to not hate it, but have failed. Fuck NHL 24

    • @HT-sm9dm
      @HT-sm9dm 10 месяцев назад

      NHL 23 was hot garbage. You have to go back to NHL 11 to get the last great NHL game honestly.

  • @SamStaticc
    @SamStaticc Год назад +7

    Having to play 40+ rivals games a week to get decent rewards is actually insane

  • @zachhall8043
    @zachhall8043 Год назад +1

    I got tired of it with nhl 23. I didn’t even buy 24, so I went back to nhl 11 just for fun, and I’m engaged in my thrashers franchise mode. It happened completely by accident

  • @richarddorr32
    @richarddorr32 9 месяцев назад

    I agree with everything you are saying, happens to our EASHL team constantly. I think it’s geographic based (intentional) connection based input lag + icetilt. Our team is 3 people (we play 3s) 2 on the west and 1 on the east. No matter what internet you pay for, and I’ve upgraded to the fastest available at consumer level, only NASA has a better connection, and no matter what, 1 teammate has 23ms and the other 2 have somewhere between 40 - 60ms with lag spikes to 120ms and it rotates based on who’s hosting. About 1 in 40 games we all get below 30 (when EA allows it). It’s in my opinion that the shit connection is intentionally forced on a team for many factors such as not buying HUT cards, favoritism to Canadian player (especially from Quebec - which also seem like the biggest glitchers in the game), PlayStation favoritism, and if you ever left a negative review on the game. Sounds crazy, but for some reason I don’t think it is. Anyway, we already know we are getting screwed by the outcome of the first faceoff. I’ll have a dangler with 95 speed, 90 acceleration, 90 agility and be blown out of the water by a 6’5” enforcer wondering how this is possible, who spineless glitching trashcans are getting seemingly game exceeding attributes. It’s like EA evaluates both teams before the game and then assigns tilt, geo location hookups, throttles sliders, or over extends sliders and it’s SO OBVIOUS I’m surprised a banner doesn’t drop saying “Ice Tilt Activated” so as to not insult your intelligence. Our opposing teams AI is an animal, always has more slider than you do, always wins the puck battle, insta-pokes without looking, has Connor a McDavid IQ and vision and is the hero of their team, where ours seems like a generic dumb version relegated to a minimum script and skates as if it’s attached to a rod on a bubble hockey table executing a route and just skates straight no matter what. Our AI won’t avoid a hit, pass to someone on an obvious breakaway even after calling for it, literally shadows us and seems to intentionally get in our path on defense and offense, won’t play a position on defense and just shadows one of us going everywhere we go and leaving a man open. Sometimes, our EA seems like it’s intentionally trying to help our opposing team. The difference is night and day. Our goalie averages a 50% save percentage and usually we are done 5 to 0 end of the first with 14 or 15 shots to 5 or 7. Every first period our goalie typically averages a 0 to 10% save percentage. Then on their end, their goalie is so good it makes Hasek look like a back up on the last place AHL team, and I WISH that I was exaggerating but I guarantee someone I never met will read this and they will be like “Holy shit, I thought I was crazy but this is exactly what happens to me” and have the same exact issues, same tone of anger and rage towards this game, and same sense of relief knowing they aren’t crazy. We get screwed so bad when we play. It ignores our dekes, passes as if we never pressed a button and ONLY on scoring chances or plays that could create one. It shanks EASY wide open passes or passes to the opposite person in the worst position that is in the opposite direction that we aimed. It’s so bad my teammates say “I know” before I try and explain that I didn’t do that. This game has become more arcade-like and caters to the credit card stacked HUT teams and glitchari-warriors than any other demographic. Every time, it’s always one player assigned to getting all of the teams goalies and most times if they scores 5 goals in the 1st period all 5 goals were the same exact glitch. Basically, to sum up NHL 24, it’s nothing more than power stop dekes and sound until you can force a cross crease or cut in front for the glitch wrister. Game is pure trash. People are still playing 23. NHL 24 is by far the worst edition to date. Oh yeah, and if I’m skating full speed, I’m not allowed to deke the goalie or go to the backhand to shoot. Even when I move my stick ALL the way over to my backhand it forces a forehand shot. Also, same with slap shots, 50% of the time (or more) the game overrides it and forces a junk wrist shot. This game is so bad it is unplayable. I’ve uninstalled it and won’t play another EA game ever in my life.

  • @kennyjames4679
    @kennyjames4679 Год назад +4

    The full pressure system cripples the defensive players way too much. You can only score on these goalies when they are flipping out under pressure or with the glitch goals, regular shots need to go in more. Im fine with changing the hitting system but its way too hard to hit, and worse, the hits are way less effective this year in most cases, if you do land a big hit, sometimes it doesnt do anything and almost every time the player hot gets back up instantly, i though the idea was hits would take players out of the play for at least a few seconds? And goalies are unbeatable 99% of the time then 1% of the time they tranform into a clown and kick the puck into their own net. And when they tried to cut back rewards and acted like they didnt was ridiculous, they seem to balance rewards based on how much the influencers play rather than how much a regular player plays - rewards need to be much better in this game.

    • @absolute1909
      @absolute1909 Год назад

      You clearly haven't been in Div 2 or Div 1. Hitting is so over tuned to the point its not even fun. When you're hitting are you pulling back the right stick and then flicking forward? Pulling back before you hit literally makes you lock into the player you're trying to hit like a heat seeking missile.

    • @kennyjames4679
      @kennyjames4679 Год назад +1

      @@absolute1909 yeah its obviously tuned differently from one mode to the next my experience is in squad battles i should have stated that.

    • @adamguthrie2370
      @adamguthrie2370 Год назад

      Hitting is actually easier this year

  • @SamStaticc
    @SamStaticc Год назад +5

    you could have mentioned how shit poke checks and hitting is. Also how often CPUs take penalties! On defense this is by far the worst nhl I’ve ever played. Can’t wait to see if they actually fix pokes in the patch this month like they said they would

    • @MeteorologistAlsoGoPutin
      @MeteorologistAlsoGoPutin Год назад

      Yeah I don’t think real NHL players only use checking as a way to get the puck. And yet lol, in this game and last year’s game also, the AI essentially just skates around on defense and aggressively hits you. They hit you even after you’ve made a pass. Like literally will skate full speed in your direction and hit you after you’ve made a pass 😂🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @Sikartaig
    @Sikartaig 11 месяцев назад

    Tonight I had one last game and had 16 games left in SB and I creamed a player on the boards and everyone just stood there. It would not go to the next screen. I tried everything from pulling the goalie but nothing. That was my second game on this one because I used rookie to get quests done. I had to take a loss to get out of the screen. I had 50k plus and was going to end up around 90 to 91k but now I'm screwed. It's hard enough to grind all these games out fro SB, Champs and Rivals to have this type of crap happening. And for the record this same bug was in the game last year because it happened to me then. EA doesn't care about anything but making money on HUT.

  • @AverageMitch1987
    @AverageMitch1987 Год назад +1

    I F’en HAAAATE this NHL 24. Why change the hitting system. I think we should all go back to NHL 23.

    • @Sikartaig
      @Sikartaig 11 месяцев назад

      I will never stop trying to hit a loose puck with the joystick. It's freaking years of programming and muscle memory. Holding L2 is a joke!!!

  • @Vengeance_De_La_Hoya
    @Vengeance_De_La_Hoya Год назад +2

    A guarantee win system would be nice for Rivals and SB. That would make it like Hut Champs.

  • @Cale_Makar
    @Cale_Makar Год назад +2

    I found the easiest way to score on a break away is fake shot then backhand

  • @joecline5360
    @joecline5360 Год назад +1

    I liked the controls last year now holding hustle stops you from stick dekes. Toe drags Or between the legs.

  • @hawkeye71980
    @hawkeye71980 Год назад +1

    EA Hawk doesn't do content anymore. It's Moose and Shark now.
    I believe the content team is less people now which is why they can't do 5 days a week anymore.
    People say this is a AAA game company, but it's not, it's a very small team, basically indie company level.

    • @SamStaticc
      @SamStaticc Год назад

      That’s sad

    • @absolute1909
      @absolute1909 Год назад

      Its not the fact that there isn't a lot of content. They promised by going to 3 days a week, there would be a significant increase in the quality of content and that just hasn't been the case. I dont care about having 500 cards every week, I just want cards or content thats fun, well thought out, and well executed. Since release, we've gotten shit content and small volumes of the shit content.

  • @trentdubs9990
    @trentdubs9990 Год назад

    its not cool that everyone has 66 99. with how easy they made it to get one everyones team looks the exact same. imo its pretty lame, they need way more limited time cards and make certain players way harder to get. back in the day there was limited cards a few times a week with high overalls that would only be in packs for a day or less some times. i remember spezza had a card that there was only 2 known to be pulled.

  • @ethanswafford
    @ethanswafford 4 месяца назад

    I hate to break it to you, but I can guarantee this game is as good as it's ever gonna get, the developers don't care and all they do now is feed the previous year's source code to chatGPT with the prompt to update it with slightly new features, and that's what they're gonna do for the foreseeable future. Humans didn't really write much of this game is was done by a LLM(Large language model) like chatGPT and the devs are encouraged to do it because 1. It saves EA a lot of money 2. It allows EA to produce games much faster and 3. The devs don't have to do much and just straight up chill at work and get to take 2 and 3 hour breaks. It is what it is.

  • @Kruce84
    @Kruce84 Год назад +1

    Chel 6v6 is broken, all preorders should be refunded since it’s been unplayable because of matchmaking bugs, since early access and we paid $100!!!

  • @EastCoast5066
    @EastCoast5066 Год назад

    They need to change how we power up event card like they did last year ..its all power up collectibles and that sucks big time

  • @Vengeance_De_La_Hoya
    @Vengeance_De_La_Hoya Год назад +1

    I agree with the whole pay 2 win factor of the game. This game is def a bit more pay to win than ever this year. I do also somewhat agree with the content so far. Again, it’s been up to this moment that I’m agreeing with u. The content has def been lacking.
    Disagree. Squad battle rewards are pretty damn good. They’ve improved from last year.

  • @finfrog3237
    @finfrog3237 5 месяцев назад

    EA Spork NHL 24 is trash. The UI is trash, as always. The store in Chel is trash, it takes forever to load one item at a time. The battlepass is just a pop up ad that takes an hour to load after nearly every game. They broke it a few years ago, and they murdered it for NHL24.

  • @friskywarrior6866
    @friskywarrior6866 Год назад

    Here’s hoping they give us a new game next year and not a copy and paste with lest stuff and weird custom shots rewards but specific players crap. Same layout year after year just put in different order, the fact there’s 13 different collectables is just silly

  • @dislikebutton4981
    @dislikebutton4981 6 месяцев назад

    Create a player sucks too... I cant even choose what fortune 500 company my dad was on the board of directors of... This isnt real hockey!

    • @imhence
      @imhence  6 месяцев назад +1

      Zach Hyman build

  • @VisibleEnd
    @VisibleEnd Год назад +1

    This is why I wait for these games to be on sale for $30 😂

    • @mikes7446
      @mikes7446 11 месяцев назад

      Black Friday

    • @VisibleEnd
      @VisibleEnd 11 месяцев назад

      @@mikes7446 yup. Already is

  • @xlnewtlx4553
    @xlnewtlx4553 Год назад +2

    knew I should've bought FIFA this year. bought xfact edition and all. fml

    • @VisibleEnd
      @VisibleEnd Год назад +1

      EA fc has been alright. Defiantly not close to this bad tho

    • @HT-sm9dm
      @HT-sm9dm 10 месяцев назад

      FIFA sucks too

    • @VisibleEnd
      @VisibleEnd 10 месяцев назад

      @@HT-sm9dm ea fc is defiantly better lol

    • @HT-sm9dm
      @HT-sm9dm 10 месяцев назад

      @@VisibleEnd it is but that doesn’t make it good. It’s just that NHL is so bad it’s not even funny.

  • @BrownKnee666
    @BrownKnee666 Год назад +1

    1. Gameplay needs sim engine and try to get rid of the cheese cross crease and the gross stupid goals that should never go in.
    2. They do need to retool the hitting because it's to animated and now lately I see that they get hit and still maintain the puck or somehow absorb the hit.
    3. I'm getting penalized like crazy. Tone that done.
    4.the players should be cutting without using the skill stick. This m3ans AI needs to he more reactive and prob set it to superstar.
    5. Everyday their should be at least 2 cards for u even have juniors, European, and all games...ad well as some women content.
    6. The collectiable system this year is trash and it should just be to add players for packs and make everything tradeable.... I think the collectiable need to be out and just have them for x factors and the MSP... I liked the collectiables for the msp not the power up.... this also means you can use collectiables to open packs of that content. Everything should be packed based besides , Power up Icons and xFactors.
    7. Need draft Champs back, a 1 line 3v3 rush mode, a tournament system, a tournament draft Champs system where you fantsay draft with 4 other players and then you go through an eliminator.... all these game modes they have should be all online and get rid of single player modes... the only offline mode should be the moments. Eventhoufh thr moments are boring, I rather do that where it is alot of new content and dedicate my time to 1 offline mode and not 3 or 4.
    8. Online versus should Give you some rewards
    9. I don't like the pressure system
    10. I need my hybrid controls back
    Im division 2 started hot 40-10 and now I'm 50-25
    11. NO CHAMPS FOR 2 WEEKS WTF IS THST

  • @jenslundell4375
    @jenslundell4375 Год назад

    Ea does the game soooo unbalanced. I think you are spot on. Its a unrealistic hockey game. You win by the opponent AI Ds are trash and you doing glitchgoals

    • @Sikartaig
      @Sikartaig 11 месяцев назад

      My view is one team's goalie is a God and the other lets everything in. I see this all the time.

  • @HT-sm9dm
    @HT-sm9dm 10 месяцев назад

    Just relaunch NHL 10 with EASHL and everyone will be happy. At least everyone with a hint of skill.

  • @zackh4432
    @zackh4432 Год назад

    If they could even take a few things from MLB the show would be great they have a good mix of fre to play and pay to win

  • @adamguthrie2370
    @adamguthrie2370 Год назад

    Full pressure system is broken

  • @MylesTech
    @MylesTech 5 месяцев назад

    game just sucks i just play 23 now

  • @moneysharkgames
    @moneysharkgames Год назад

    Couldn't agree more, I agree I have a skill issue too but still unacceptable effort on EA's part. The game scripting is the most bullshit, takes away the "lets find out whos actually better aspect" I have rematched dudes 3-5 times and its usually 50/50 or 60/40 at most. It's literally flip a coin, only way to find out who is truly better would be to literally go to someones house and play them offline lmao

  • @User77-mh6eo
    @User77-mh6eo Год назад +2

    Play me you lil ginga

  • @nolancollins4193
    @nolancollins4193 Год назад

    👋

  • @MORELivingdedmanislit
    @MORELivingdedmanislit Год назад

    LOL

  • @mikes7446
    @mikes7446 11 месяцев назад

    It’s crap