There is a way to get very good precision from the controller. No matter how much I played with the sensitivity curves, I wasn't satisfied, it took surgeon-like movements to be smooth. I now run -50% on the thumbstick and trigger curves, in conjunction with an extremity deadzone of 50% on the left thumbstick. The outer deadzone doesn't function as you'd expect, usually an outer deadzone of 50% will ignore all thumbs tick movement beyond 50%, that is not the case here. Instead, you're only getting 50% elevator deflection, but it is spread out over the entire thumbsticks range of movement. This was a game changer, as it gave me a lot more precision within the same range and I can't see any reason you'd need more than 50% elevator or aileron deflection, unless you're flying stunt aircraft. Works an absolute treat for flying GA. I run reactivity at 5% with a 5% inner deadzone. Triggers are -50% on the curve, same inner deadzone, no outer deadzone and max reactivity. One important note, you can get the triggers smooth enough for steering on the ground, but they will never work in the air, not precise enough to keep coordinated. Because of that, it is very important to assign a custom binding to turn on auto-rudder. I bind it to the A button, same as my throttle and I bind the one that turns it on only, not toggle. So the moment I touch my throttle, it is turned on for the remainder of the flight. It resets between flights, hence my binding of it. Sorry for the long post, just hope it can help people out. I was a long time flight simmer around 14 years ago or so, with all the gear. I've now returned but on Xbox Series X, don't have a gaming rig anymore. Definitely miss having TrackIR and the ability to easily interact with switches. Keep up the great videos.
Pinned! That was excellent advice - thank you very much! I’m sure it will be of use to a lot of people. I too had misunderstood the outer-deadzone function (Asobo should probably re-name that frankly) and assumed it would work like a typical deadzone. I might even try that with my setup, particularly on the rudder (which we all know is overly sensitive). If the results are decent, I might even make a little video on it. Glad you’re enjoying the content! Thanks very much once again for the info. All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations That should work, I haven't added any to my rudder as I don't want to lessen my nose-wheel steering. Just be sure to add a positive extremity dead zone, rather than a negative one. The negative one results in behaviour we'd usually expect from an outer deadzone. The only time I've had any trouble being limited to 50% travel is when flying the default A320, but as you've said, her FM is very docile, needing big inputs. I usually fly GA, so not much of an issue. I'll leave the A320 until Xbox gets the FBW mod, if we get it at all. Take care.
I also fly for a living. I ditched the joystick all together on this game and just use controller. Changes I make. I set left bumper to trim down, right bumper to trim up. Y+uparrow = flaps up Y+downarrow = flaps down. Y+leftarrow= spoilers Y+rightarrow gear. I also change my sensitivity curve to ~50% for both elevator and aileron. I have no issue flying anything with these settings and mostly like flying the CJ and Bonanza
Thanks very much for the info! That's a good idea assigning more "ancillary" systems to key combinations, rather than the other way around (as it is somewhat by default). I'm sure others may well find this info useful, so I've pinned your comment accordingly : ) All the best!
Perhaps they’ve changed it then, to simplify things on the Xbox. Back when I recorded, I’m pretty sure it was Y+D-Pad. I like Gold Pilots suggestion though, always good to have trim controls readily available. Cheers! : )
Nice! I haven’t had the inclination to pick up a console since the original Xbox, but I have to say; the idea of relaxing on the sofa, with a nice cold drink and flying somewhere scenic with mates, it’s verrrry appealing! Not too long to wait now. Happy flying! : )
Ah, I hadn’t even considered that it would still be free with game pass! I’m sure we’re going to be seeing a tonne of people (who might otherwise be reticent to try flight simulation out) joining in the virtual skies shortly then! : ) All the best
Certainly does! As I say, I found it all fairly manageable, except in pitch. I would definitely play around a lot more with sensitivities etc if I was using a controller full time though. Then again, even with a full setup, you still have to fiddle around a bit to get the sim feeling more reasonable in its current state haha. Cheers Jared! : )
Long time gamepad user, some suggestions: - tweak the sensitivity and deadzone settings to get your sweetspot - use the Xinput Plus program to further tweak your pad and easily separate your triggers as to get them to work as 2 different axis - buy some rubber grips for the sticks for better grip (they are fairly inexpensive and very useful)
Trouble is, with the increasing popularity of flight simulation, some people can’t afford and / or get hold of a joystick at the moment. I think quite a lot of people are using gamepads as a result (some people also just prefer it). That’s why I thought it would be interesting to see how well a controller actually stacks up : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations you were absolutely spot on in covering this issue, I wrote an article about it sometime ago on RaceDepartment discussing the same subject (in that case, for driving simulations). It is pretty important, I believe, to let people understand that the stygma gamepad users suffer is totally unfair, and detrimental to the well-being of the sim community. Nowadays pads have 16-bit resolution, they can be very precise and they are easier to use effectively thanks to improved ergonomics (plus sims themselves offer more settings to tweak them). Yes, sims are meant to be played with proper hardware, but there is people who may be just new to the hobby, do not have the money or space to afford it, have different priorities or maybe even have some form of disability. Why make them feel unwanted and sorry? The sim community should be more welcoming and open, especially about such a subject that is still lagging behind (look at the very first reply I got to my original comment). We share the same hobby and passion, it makes no sense that we split ourselves into useless factions in such way. So, thank you for this video and I hope it’ll help bring a very much needed change!
Thanks Davide! I don’t know if my vid will bring any change necessarily, but I totally agree with your sentiment. To my mind, all that matters is that the individual is enjoying themselves (so long as they aren’t disrupting anyone else in the process). Why take up the hobby otherwise?! If people enjoy “casual” simming, then more power to them (and the same goes the other way)! I know what I enjoy, but that doesn’t mean I need to force others to do the same haha. The elitist attitude that simulation brings out in some is quite baffling; as you say, we all enjoy the same (niche) hobby, we should be supporting one another and building a community as much as we can. That was one of my big goals in setting up the channel. You’ll always get a few bad characters in any walk of life, but the vast majority of people I’ve come across on the channel so far, have been nothing but friendly, interested and helpful : ) Cheers again, all the best!
Yeah, not too long now! I have to say, I don’t own an Xbox, but the idea of relaxing on the sofa and doing some virtual touring is very appealing! All the best : )
Can't wait to play this on my Series S. Couldn't find any in stock so I had to resort to ebay for a used one but now I'm ready even though it's not an X.
With the new Xbox Elite series 2 controller the shift button might come in handy for Flight Sim. I cannot wait for this game to launch on Xbox. Great video!
The controller I used in this vid is a couple of generations old I think. Not too familiar with the new controller / shift button. Does that allow you to assign different functions to a button, dependant on what position the shift button is in? If so, it will be very useful indeed! Not too long to wait now! Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks very much and all the best! : )
Thanks! Yeah, not too long now! I don’t own an Xbox, but I imagine it could be realllly nice to chill on the couch and take a leisurely, exploratory flight around an area with mates! : ) All the best!
As someone who uses the controller exclusively right now, holding left bumper basically lets you control the camera like an FPS, it's pretty easy to swoop around the cockpit that way.
Nice Travis. Sounds like they’ve updated / improved the default controls since I recorded this then (I believe they did for the release of the Xbox). Cheers! : )
Hi. I've been using an Xbox controller for a few months, but have finally taken the plunge and bought a better control system. The Thrustmaster - T-Flight Full kit X was delivered last week. So I intend to get it set up this weekend and hopefully have a lot smoother and more accurate control. The Joypad acceleration and deceleration drives me crazy. The rudder and the pitch are very sensitive too. I love flying the Trikes. It's great fun. Keep up the great videos.
That’s brilliant MC! It really is a “game changer”, moving from a gamepad, to even the most basic of joystick setups - I’m sure you’ll get a lot of value / enjoyment out of the T-Flight kit. A gamepad is workable, I used one myself for many years, but it’s like trying to use a mini-golf putter, to tee off at Augusta (I know next to nothing about golf, but I think that analogy works haha) - not ideal equipment for the task. I hope you have a tonne of fun with your new setup! Happy flying and all the best : )
Hi Jan, Isn’t this the default mapping though? I was using the left and right triggers for rudder in the video, I didn’t change the controller setup beforehand. I found most of the controls manageable, but rudder definitely seemed a bit sub-optimal. Cheers : )
Hi Chris, Yes, unfortunately I think a controller is always going to be generally a little trickier, but the sim could also use some work (at least based on my experiences) in how the rudder operates via gamepad inputs. All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yeah, so I've read. I'll try tuning some more this evening. I tried using my crappy HOTAS yesterday, and the left throttle slide control and rudder buttons weren't be picked up by the game. lol
Oh, well that’s a shame (regarding the HOTAS). Do you think it’s a software or hardware issue? I’m surprised the sim isn’t picking it up, I thought it worked with just about anything. . . Hope you manage to get it figured out and sorted : )
I fly mostly GA aircraft and use a controller almost exclusively for the moment, as my current desk isn't large enough to use a HOTAS without crashing my stick into my monitor. I found that once I got used to it, I can control the plane pretty well. I keep the flaps on LB and RB and use Y+up and Y+down for the trim. Rudders are tricky, but I very much prefer the triggers to a twist stick. I use an XBox Elite Controller and I've been able to learn the touch pretty well. It may not be a true replacement for a set of rudder pedals, but it does get much better once you get used to it!
Indeed Keith. Whilst I wouldn’t wish to do away with my current setup (we’re actually doing a bit of space reallocation at home at the moment and it’s the one thing, I have resolutely told my wife, will not be going! Haha), a controller can be a very reasonable option. As I mentioned during the video, I used one for many years and like most of these things 1) you get used to it 2) you won’t miss something you’ve never had (if one is new to flight simulation). Like you, I found the rudder to be the trickiest bit with a controller, but I’m sure I could adjust to it given time (and the rudder is a bit fiddly in the sim currently, no matter the setup). Cheers, all the best! : )
I think the issue with the rudder is because its trying to use what is basically two separate axis to simulate what should be a single axis. You need to make sure you completely release one trigger before pressing the other or they will cancel each other out.
You could be entirely correct Fred. I didn’t think I was pressing them at the same time, but it can be very easy to lightly rest your finger on one trigger without even noticing; so it’s quite possible that I was inadvertently. As you say, either way it’s not an optimal solution and rudder control is definitely where the controller falls down a bit All the best : )
Yes, I'm guessing that must be a current sim issue? I had no such problems at the time of recording this, but my camera behaves in exactly the same way now (when using and Xbox controller), despite trying various deadzones, sensitivity settings etc. I presume one the sim updates broke the functionality; very annoying indeed. Hopefully it gets fixed sooner rather than later! Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks very much once again! All the best : )
I think by default, trim is Y + the directional pad Chase? I could be wrong though. . . Either way, I agree, mapping it to the D pad is definitely the way to go. A much more important function than more camera controls. Cheers : )
As a casual pilot the game is still really enjoyable with a controller. It's not ideal well far from it... However I can fly all the planes I like explore regions and so on. So in my opinion it's definitely good enough to enjoy the game.
That’s it. If it’s good enough for you to enjoy the sim, then that’s all you need! I know a lot of people enjoy MSFS as a “scenery simulator”, so there’s no need for them to be splashing out $100s on peripherals etc. But as I think I proved in the vid, if one wants to learn / do more, having a controller won’t necessarily hold one back (at least in the early stages). All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I'm having a lot more fun just exploring or well just playing the game as a scenery simulator, than for example flying from Heathrow to J.F.K., while being in Autopilot for ages. A bonus for me as well that nearly all of the planes I've been on are in the game right now. Just need an Antonov AN-2 and some helicopters now.
Yeah, fair enough! I generally enjoy VFR simming more than the jets these days as well, especially in MSFS! I believe there is a developer with an AN2 in the works and if you haven’t tried the freeware H135 helicopter already, it’s well worth a look! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Didn't know they had a helicopter already. As far as I was aware there were some issues regarding mechanics. Well anyways I'm going to give it a try then. Flying in a helicopter certainly was a unique experience. By the way I looked through your channel and didn't see a review of the Carenado Cessna 182 Skylane. Do you own it by any chance? All the reviews I've seen so far weren't exactly happy with it as a product, however they're all like 6 months old. I'm interested in it but I don't want to "waste" my money on it. Do you have any experience with it by chance?
Yeah, it’s well worth a try! Freeware, so no harm in checking it out. It’s not perfect, but it’s already very impressive what the team have achieved! As you say, the sim isn’t even supposed to support rotorcraft yet, but I’d say it’s as good (if not better) than FSX helicopters already. I’m afraid I neither own nor have I tried the Carenado 182. As much as I would love a C182 in the sim, any addon that comes with the default G1000 is a bit of a non-starter for me. 1) I’m not a big glass cockpit fan generally 2) The default G1000 isn’t very well modelled. So putting it in a payware aircraft is a poor choice in my opinion (and a bit lazy - Carenado used to have their own custom G1000 in FSX / P3D for example). So unfortunately I can’t give you any feedback on it really. From what I’ve seen, I would say it’s probably not really worth the money, but also not a “bad” product. I nearly picked it up in the Christmas sale myself. I think at half-price it’s probably a reasonable purchase. Sorry I can’t be of more help on that one. All the best! : )
Thank you very much Mike! : ) I have to say, it always puts a little smile on my face when I hear that. One of my first MSFS videos on the channel was a run around the Mach Loop and I received an awful lot of friendly ribbing from the Welsh contingent, due to my rather woeful pronunciations haha. Anyway, I figured if I was going to make a series focusing on the Mach Loop, I’d better try and learn the place names etc. So I tried my best to go away and do that. Got a bit of feedback from some of my viewers on my efforts etc. It seems that more or less paid off, as I’ve had one or two comments like yours now. So mission success I would say! That being said, if I haven’t done a Mach Loop flight in a while, it still takes my brain a little time to “warm up” when pronouncing Machynlleth haha. Anyway, thanks very much! All the best : )
How many of us actually use any stick or yoke with default settings? 1/10 of your test should have been default, then customize until ‘you’ are happy. No matter the sim, unless you have a few thousand dollars, you’ll never get to feel the controls. Working on some VFR is a bit tricky with any setup but it is possible and helpful, but obviously IFR is defiantly something anyone will find very useful. And this is very possible with a controller. Customizing sensitivity curves and adding actually useful controls makes a game pad one of my favorite. Also you can easily add a wireless keyboard to supplement your needs on console. Especially for start up and so on. Microsoft will have the controls figured out for the Xbox release. And using keyboard and mouse to supplement other games has been possible for years. I think it would be better for everyone to promote and really try hard to see what a game pad can actually to. If only to get the stick and yoke price gouging to level off as quickly as possible. In my experience of getting every form of controls to work in sims the high end game pads have been one of the most fun things to use. And most people buying MSFS2020 is really in it for the fun right now. A month after release we’ll see a flood of thrustmaster HOTAS Ones (whatever the name is) being resold as people go back to wireless controls. I don’t know how I feel about that, hopefully if the xbox experience isn’t good enough they’ll try PC.
Hi Adrian, Yes, you’re probably right - I didn’t really consider things from that point of view at the time. I went with the “plug and play” approach, as I wanted to get the default experience, but as you say, I’m sure most will ultimately adjust sensitivity settings etc themselves. I set out to illustrate that a gamepad was an acceptable method of controlling aircraft in the sim and I think on that front the video does what it’s supposed to (though again in hindsight, it could have been optimised). Personally I would still prefer a cheap joystick over a game pad, but to each there own. I’ve had a lot of comments from people stating that they prefer the controller option for convenience, comfort, cost etc - very understandable. I agree that if one wants to go down the controller route, a mouse and keyboard would be highly beneficial (a necessity really for the more complex aircraft). I hope that Microsoft / Asobo do indeed tweak the controls before releasing the Xbox version. Overall it was more than manageable, but the rudder control left a lot to be desired. Given that we’ve still seen no improvements to rudder sensitivity in the sim (not just on gamepad, but generally) after almost a year now, I’d say there’s no guarantee that they will. I’m sure a large majority of people coming into the sim on the console, will be looking to simply have a bit of fun. The gamepad would be the obvious choice for that of course (and frankly, being able to relax in the sofa and cruise around, sounds very appealing to me too!). It will be interesting to see how many people have a fleeting interest and how many take up the hobby long-term. I suspect more will stick with it than one might expect. Quite a few were predicting a deluge of cheap PC peripherals by now, as people got bored with the sim. That doesn’t seem to have materialised yet. . . Anyway, thank you for your input. All the best!
Am I correct in thinking they have since updated/smoothed out the controls since release? I recently bought an Xbox Series X and the Elite Series 2 controller. I haven’t made any adjustments on anything and it’s very much playable. I’ve only been flying GA aircraft so far. Usually right after liftoff I add some downward trim to keep the plane from gradually going nose upward to maintain a modest climb.
Asobo may well have done, Josh. I recorded this before the console version of the sim even existed; it stands to reason that Asobo might have adjusted the control sensitivities ahead on the sim coming to the Xbox. If I recall correctly, the default control profile didn’t used to have any sensitivity curves, whereas now it does, so that would probably account for the difference. Enjoy the sim! Happy flying and all the best : )
Like with any other controller option: as long as you're comfortable using it, go for it. I'm a gamepad user as well. While I do have a decent yoke and stick, grabbing a gamepad is just nice to get in a quick flight. I've used gamepads since the days of the NES, so I'm perfectly fine controlling everything with one. Heck, I used to fly on a laptop with one of those small track nubbins. I can fly anyhthing with my gamepad just fine. If you practice long enough you can probably land an A320 with a Dance Dance Revolution mat...
Haha, exactly Bjorn! Of course it’s nice to have a “proper” setup, but using a controller certainly needn’t be a barrier to entry (and indeed has its own benefits)! Landing with a dance mat. . . now there’s an idea for a challenge! : D All the best
@@IntotheBlueSimulations You should check out Lethamyr's playlist "Rocket League on Unique Controllers". he has been teasing a DDR mat video for the past couple months
Haha, ok. Certainly not something I’ve come across, but sounds fun. Thanks for the heads up! (Sounds a bit like Jimmy Broadbent racing with his Guitar Hero controller haha). Cheers, all the best! : )
Salut comment sur Xbox série x : Zoumer vue intérieur ?je ne parvient pas à regarder en détails les instruments car je sais pas comment zoomer peut tu m’aider ?🚨🚨🚨🚨
Bonjour Jeremie, J'ai bien peur que ce ne soit pas quelque chose que je connaisse bien, car je n'utilise généralement pas de manette Xbox. Il se peut qu'il n'y ait pas de raccourci clavier assigné au zoom par défaut. Vous devez accéder au menu des paramètres de contrôle et attribuer un bouton (ou une combinaison de boutons) au zoom, puis vous devriez pouvoir utiliser la fonction de zoom. Sinon, vous pouvez utiliser les fonctions de zoom du menu déroulant de la caméra, mais cela pourrait être un peu fastidieux. J'espère que ça aide un peu. Tous mes vœux! : )
Ah great , now you know how i feel !! LoL !! ( coming into land in the Fiat G-91 , nearly stall speed and a massive cross wind , arrragh !! ) . In fairness , i've spent some time adjusting sensitivities etc on the controller, and truth be told , it isn't that bad. I also like the versatility of the controller . I can move from the man cave to the living room ( when the mrs heads for bed ) , and fly a bit on the 55inch tv , without having to move lots of joysticks / peripherals etc etc .
Haha yeah, that ought to provide quite the challenge on a gamepad! As I say, overall I found it more manageable than I was first expecting, though rudder was still tricky. Great for versatility though as you say. A couple of other people have said the same thing. I love having my proper setup, but it can be a right pain changing peripherals in and out and they sure take up a lot of space. Certainly I think the controller would be a more than adequate solution if you want to keep things flexible / mobile. Cheers, all the best : )
Haha, well it’s certainly good for that also! Stuck in quarantine or something? I used to work for Q Hotels for a short while, so there you go haha. Well, if it’s a holiday - enjoy! If it’s a Quaratine - hope it isn’t too dull. All the best! : )
Just cured it....through Steam big picture controller config...clicked on right thumbstick..then advanced...then moved the two dead zone sliders to the far right...just short of fully right..perfect now...maybe of help to you or anyone else with the same issue
Ah, thanks for the info! I don’t generally use an Xbox controller myself, but I’ll be sure to pass on the info, if I come across anybody else having the same issues : ) Cheers!
I fly a Piaggio turboprop in real life and just bought a series x knowing that MSFs is now on console but I’m definitely struggling to fly the plane with a controller. Think I’ll be getting a joystick like how I used to have with my PC setup years ago.
Hi Harry, Nice! Is it a nice machine to fly? Yes, no doubt a joystick is the better option in terms of control. Well worth getting one if you can. All the best! : )
Correct, I figured this out afterwards haha. I’d definitely prefer having the trim assigned straight to the D pad though, it’s much more important in my mind than a few extra camera controls. Thanks for the info : )
Thanks John : ) Yes, I would hope Asobo will spend a bit more time optimising the control options for the game pad. It’s ok as it is, but could certainly be improved from where it is now. All the best!
Hi can you tell me how to use ailerons using the controller as I am trying to do it on fs academy jet liner and it is asking me to do ailerons full left and I don't know how any help would be appreciated thanks
Hi John, If memory serves me correctly, ailerons are on the left joystick. Full left should just be flicking the joystick over to the left; if it's not registering in FS Academy, my guess would be that perhaps you have a control calibration issue. Have you adjusted your control sensitivities at all etc (a deadzone for example, might stop FS Academy from registering the input). Otherwise I'm not too sure what might be causing the issue I'm afraid. I hope that put you on the right track! All the best : )
I use a gamepad simply because it's a lot less faffing around than swapping out multiple peripherals (not to mention finding a place to store them when not in use). There is no reason you cant use Track IR and the game pad and like any peripheral dialling in your key mappings and sensitivity is everything, it took me some time to map things to a useable state and I'm still having to mess around with deadzones and sensitivity tuning. The rudder is a hot mess unless you change it to Axis, and evben then it's still fairly useless. Also in settings, auto rudder on the ground is your friend. The default settings for a gamepad are terrible but with a bit of work it can be made eminently useable. Never going to replace hundreds of pounds worth of peripherals, but I also don't have store them and faff about whenever i change from a stick to a yoke. Casual simmer and proud of it lol
So very true. It’s a right pain having to swap peripherals in and out, especially if you’re lazy like me haha. I often find myself flying with sub-optimal controllers, just to avoid the changeover process. Storage is also a big issue as you say, my study is pretty much at max capacity on the peripherals front (a shame, as I would love to try the Authentikit Spitfire controls). Of course one could definitely use a controller + TrackIR. I just wanted to “simulate” what it would be like coming into the hobby fresh and with the most basic of setups. As I mentioned in the vid, I used a controller for about 2 years when starting flight simulation, but controls / sims were generally a bit more simple back then. I was interested to see if it’s still a tenable solution. . . Haha, absolutely nothing wrong with a bit of casual simming! I do a bit myself from time to time - better keep that on the down-low though : P So long as we’re all enjoying it, that’s all that matters! : ) All the best
Thanks Reece! Something a little bit different, but I thought it’d be interesting to see how much of a difference it made, given that I haven’t flown with a controller in years. Overall, it was more manageable that I would have thought. Sorry it still wasn’t in an Airbus though (yet) haha ; )
Cheers, will do my man! Yeah, still flying on and off. Been in the sim (the real one) quite a bit recently though. Trying to remember what to do haha. . .
@@IntotheBlueSimulations total respect for the amount of hours and training in the SIM you Pilots have to do it's admirable. Keep up the great Videos and I'm sure I will have lots more questions 😂👍
Ah ok. Is it pretty straightforward (eg via the sim menu), or does it require a bit of tweaking behind the scenes? As you say, by default they are far from ideal! All the best : )
Thanks Tom! Yeah, that probably would have been a good idea wouldn’t it. It didn’t really occur to me at the time. . . I don’t really have any decent recording equipment at the moment mind you, but maybe I’ll at least look into getting a little grip / tripod for my phone, so that I can consider these sorts of things in the future. Cheers, all the best : )
what about activating the buttons and switches in the cockpit? i noticed you are still using a keyboard to lower the gear this wont be an option on xbox it will have to be keybinded to a button, or using the controller to move a mouse pointer on screen?
Good question Christian, Actually the video was not originally intended to be a demonstration of the Xbox per se, but rather an analysis of how good controllers were for flight simming (as many PC users also make use of them). My take on it though: in short, GA aircraft should be no problem (due to their lower number of controls), commercial jets would be very tricky to fly with just a controller though. You can assign whichever control you like to whichever button and key combinations can also be used (so that drastically increases the number of assignments you could theoretically have), but setting autopilot parameters for example - I think would still get tricky and you’d end up with a messy controller setup at any rate. I did go away and do some reading though; my understanding is that actually a standard mouse and keyboard does work with the modern Xboxes? If that is correct, controller + mouse and keyboard would definitely be the way to go in my opinion. Hope that helps a bit? All the best : )
Great information video. Looking to buy this on PC. I already have Track IR and I am wanting to use the Xbox controller as I have no room for a dedicated controller. Can the Track IR not be used with the Xbox controller?
Thanks Terry, glad you enjoyed it! Ah, sorry, maybe I was a bit misleading. You should be absolutely fine to use a TrackIR and controller combo! I just wanted to exclude TrackIR from the video, to get a feel for how easy (or not) it was, controlling both the aircraft and the camera at the same time. You shouldn’t have any issues using them together. All the best and happy flying! : )
I have a Logitech controller (which is really a copy of a PlayStation or Xbox controller); which I find great and easy to use. Only thing is not really a decent throttle (you have to click A & B madly! If anyone has suggestions/recommendations for best set-up?
Just a thought Richard; what if you assign the throttle to the D-Pad and then the trim to the A/B buttons, will you still have to click madly in that configuration? All the best! : )
Thanks Stephen! I think by default I found it to be Y+dpad (on my setup anyway). It definitely makes much more sense to me, to assign the dpad directly for trim though. All the best : )
Yeah, will be interesting to see what’s actually changed in the sim to optimise it for the Xbox. Certainly improving controller functionality / compatibility would be an obvious area for improvement. Sounds like we might find out fairly soon anyway! : ) All the best Harry
Good question, They should be identical I believe. I don’t think Microsoft is changing the core of the sim in any way for the Xbox. MSFS is very accessible to newcomers though. There are plenty of “pilot aids” that you can turn on to make things much easier (more Ace-Combat-esque in terms of control style / handling). There are also navigation markers, landing guidance markers etc that you can turn on and ultimately you can even turn crash detection off. In short, if you just want to have some fun and enjoy the scenery, the sim is still very accessible. You should be able to jump in with little to no training and still enjoy the open world (and maybe you’ll then chose to pick things up as you go along). Hope that helps clear things up a bit? All the best! : )
You’re most welcome! I might actually try and do a video on this very subject before release (if I can find the time), but as you say, the definitive proof will be available on the 27th. I’m sure you’ll get on with it just fine though ; ) All the best!
When MFS2020 comes to XBOX X....they have a thing called the Xbox adaptive controller, you plug your nice and cheap Logitech 3D Pro joystick into it, and Boom! You are now on the X, flying the aircraft, including those two nice helicopters, with a joystick, complete with yaw control for those crosswind landings! At least thats the way I understood it. I know the xbox controller here in this video is for other things...just saying
Ahh, ok, that’s great to know Steve! Should make the Xbox a much more accessible option then. I wonder if it will work with all peripherals. . . Cheers : )
I’m not sure Steve. I believe a standard mouse and keyboard works just fine with an Xbox (which would certainly be useful for simming), so it’s quite plausible that a basic joystick would work correctly as well. Seems like we’ll be seeing some customised equipment just for Xbox simming though and I’m sure a few more examples will follow. I’ve no idea for VR. Does Xbox have native VR (I haven’t come across it)? At any rate, I believe MSFS performance is going to be somewhat marginal already on the Xbox, so I think that would make VR a no-go. All the best : )
Hey Pilot! May I ask which resolution gives better performance in sim? 1366x768 or 1280x720? Because I don't really have a good specs to run the game... I am using Intel® Core™ i5-8250U CPU @ 1.60GHz 1.80 GHz 20.0 GB DDR4 Rams (19.9 GB usable) MX150 2GB VRAM 256SSD (Installed the game in) Sometimes 1366x768 gives me better FPS but maybe is not stable, could you guide me it in pilot :D?
Hi Joel, Well I’m not an expert, but in theory 1280x720 should give you better performance. Generally speaking, the lower the resolution, the less pixels you’re drawing and so the easier it is for your computer. Strange that you’ve been experiencing the opposite though. . . I presume you’ll have quite a lot of your settings turned down, make sure you have AI traffic off as well as that can hurt the FPS quite a bit. What sort of FPS are you getting out of interest? Have you considered looking into older sims, that might run a little bit better on your system? All the best to you : )
That’s why I was wondering if it isn’t worth trying an older sim, where you can max out the graphics. Might look better overall. . . Just a suggestion, of course do what you think you’ll enjoy the most! : )
Hi Zara, I don't know if there is a specific button assigned to the controller for that by default - it may be that you have to assign a button yourself : ) All the best!
In theory, yes David. You can assign whatever control you like to any button and you can also use button combinations (of course giving you a much greater number of options). However, whilst this is perfectly adequate for a simple GA aircraft, I don’t think it will really be workable for a complex jet. I think you’d run out of buttons to assign and it would also be fiddly operating the autopilot etc. I did some reading recently though, it sounds like a standard keyboard and mouse will actually work with the Xbox. In my opinion, I would say this will be a necessity (especially the mouse) if you want to fly complex jets. Hope that helps a bit? All the best! : )
You’re very welcome David! Yeah, on it’s own, a controller will be tricky for anything other than a light aircraft. In terms of handling though it’s “ok”, which was really what I was aiming to test in this video. All the best : )
The controls for the Xbox controller will probably be more optimized for Xbox series X/S when the game release next month. Sure the game is mainly a PC game, but it's being ported to Xbox now, so they'll make it more optimized for the controls on the controller most likely
Hi Yahusha, Do you mean in these specific flights, or in the sim generally? In the sim there is a GPS available in most aircraft and also a map available (although the map detail is pretty basic). Neither of these will be very user-friendly in helping you get around, unless you’re at least mildly familiar with aerial navigation. The sim does also have 3D visual aerial markers + a few other assistance options to help you navigate should you wish. They should make things much simpler. I’m afraid I’m not all that familiar with how those work though. Hope that helps answer your question? All the best : )
I do have some, though they are more based around learning real-world aviation techniques, as opposed to learning the sim itself. The first one teaches you most of the basics of flying - up to navigation: ruclips.net/p/PLaI08doFZ-LIK-PAyRGF7NDZDM88FpOVp This one teaches you the basics of the Airbus, if you’re keen to get up in the jets: ruclips.net/p/PLaI08doFZ-LLwILOP5X4Ehloc4Ux5eVN Not sure if they’re quite what you’re looking for, but hopefully they are of some use : ) If you have any more questions, feel free to ask!
Fascinating experiment! However, it rather confirms my thoughts that we have a "game" here, rather than a Flight Simulation? They are releasing for X box after all. Good point re the Airbus, after take off it's all flown by the 5 onboard computers anyway, ELAC and SEC. I bet they could put an X box controller where the side stick is..lol. Enjoyed the Loop...going to grab the 339 and fly it with my X52 Pro..lol!
Thanks, yeah I thought it would be something a little bit different to try. . Ahh, I don’t know about that David. I seem to be in the minority here haha, but I still think MSFS stacks up well as a sim in some respects. It’s more of a “pilots” sim than a “test-pilots” sim if that makes sense. It does a good job of recreating the “feel” of flight when cruising around, it all just falls apart a bit at the edges of the envelope. This can of course still be worked on though and indeed I hope it will! It suits me down to the ground, as I like just cruising around, but of course it’s not much use for those who enjoy their “dynamic” flying. Wouldn’t be much good for evading SAMs in your F18 for example hehe. All of this only applies to the GA stuff though, for jets, it’s still generally a bit rubbish at the moment. Haha, exactly. The same is still true of the Boeing’s though. Rotate, count to about 5 and then pop the autopilot in ha. A controller really isn’t going to hold you back much on that front. Might make the landings a bit trickier, but you can always autoland (although you’d be taking your life into your own hands attempting that in MSFS currently!). Cheers David, hope you enjoy the MB339 and your joystick! ; )
Haha, not me I’m afraid. I must have a very generic voice though, I’ve been mixed up with a number of different people XD I presume you’re referring to MrYorkiesWorld are you? : ) All the best!
Hi Adebowale, From what I can see online, the left button is internal / external view toggle and the right button is the toggle pause button. I don’t know whether or not “toggle pause” is the same as active pause but if not, you will simply need to assign a button on your controller to the active pause function (should you wish to make use of it). I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
One alternate controller idea I'm curious about: I've heard it suggested that some people have used a USB volume knob as a trim wheel.... how well does that actually work?
I’ve seen the same and thought what a great idea it was. Maybe I’ll look into sourcing one and trying it out. If I do, I’ll be sure to make a vid on it : )
It’s not something I know a whole lot about I’m afraid; but it seems as though the first “HOTAS” for the Xbox is due out around mid-October: news.xbox.com/en-us/2021/07/22/official-microsoft-flight-sim-accessories/ All the best : )
Sadly equipment is pretty pricey wherever you are these days. As with most things, the Xbox controller has its advantages and disadvantages. It’s certainly very convenient in many ways and is great for more “relaxed” sessions. Cost effective as well of course. Cheers Matheus! : )
Using a mouse is not what is going to be happening when users play the game on Xbox. I came here to see how the game plays using a controller and controller only, not a bloody PC mouse
That might be what you came here to see Mark, but that isn’t what the video was all about I’m afraid (nor does it claim to be). Actually this video (which is a few months old) was looking to see how viable using an Xbox controller is, in place of more typical flight sim peripherals (for which the prices are inflated currently and a lot of hardware can be hard to come by). Overall I would say for a GA aircraft it can do the job. For the heavy jets etc though, the number of buttons available vs the number of control assignments you’re going to need, will become an issue. Particularly for operating systems like the autopilot. As Bloodstock states, I believe you can use a standard mouse and keyboard on a modern Xbox and I would suggest that this will be well worth having and practically a necessity (especially the mouse) if you plan on flying any complex / jet aircraft. Cheers
This is what I realy want to do and not spend a load of money on a new PC how bout getting an Xbox and connecting a yoke and rudder peddles and Throttle and Deluxe Flight Sim version
Yeah, the Xbox version should certainly be a more economical way of getting into the sim for a lot of people. I don’t own an Xbox personally, but apparently they will be creating some sort of option where a lot of existing PC hardware can be adapted to work with the Xbox. So potentially the Xbox version could offer a very valid simming option. All the best : )
Learned very little from this video. You don't even mention how to use the controller with the drone camera, which is my main interest in using a controller.
Ah, well I’m sorry you feel like you didn’t come away with much. . . In fairness though, the video doesn’t claim to be a tutorial. As per the title / description; I simply wanted to test how suitable an Xbox controller was for controlling an aircraft in the sim (as peripherals are very pricey these days and can be hard to get hold of). All the best.
It's been announced that the Xbox one will not be able to handle the game.. Xbox series x and s will work.. you should get the series x instead of the s.. I got my series x and so far it's been perfect and I can't wait for the game
There is a way to get very good precision from the controller. No matter how much I played with the sensitivity curves, I wasn't satisfied, it took surgeon-like movements to be smooth. I now run -50% on the thumbstick and trigger curves, in conjunction with an extremity deadzone of 50% on the left thumbstick.
The outer deadzone doesn't function as you'd expect, usually an outer deadzone of 50% will ignore all thumbs tick movement beyond 50%, that is not the case here. Instead, you're only getting 50% elevator deflection, but it is spread out over the entire thumbsticks range of movement. This was a game changer, as it gave me a lot more precision within the same range and I can't see any reason you'd need more than 50% elevator or aileron deflection, unless you're flying stunt aircraft.
Works an absolute treat for flying GA. I run reactivity at 5% with a 5% inner deadzone. Triggers are -50% on the curve, same inner deadzone, no outer deadzone and max reactivity.
One important note, you can get the triggers smooth enough for steering on the ground, but they will never work in the air, not precise enough to keep coordinated. Because of that, it is very important to assign a custom binding to turn on auto-rudder. I bind it to the A button, same as my throttle and I bind the one that turns it on only, not toggle. So the moment I touch my throttle, it is turned on for the remainder of the flight. It resets between flights, hence my binding of it.
Sorry for the long post, just hope it can help people out. I was a long time flight simmer around 14 years ago or so, with all the gear. I've now returned but on Xbox Series X, don't have a gaming rig anymore. Definitely miss having TrackIR and the ability to easily interact with switches.
Keep up the great videos.
Pinned!
That was excellent advice - thank you very much! I’m sure it will be of use to a lot of people. I too had misunderstood the outer-deadzone function (Asobo should probably re-name that frankly) and assumed it would work like a typical deadzone. I might even try that with my setup, particularly on the rudder (which we all know is overly sensitive). If the results are decent, I might even make a little video on it.
Glad you’re enjoying the content! Thanks very much once again for the info. All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations That should work, I haven't added any to my rudder as I don't want to lessen my nose-wheel steering. Just be sure to add a positive extremity dead zone, rather than a negative one. The negative one results in behaviour we'd usually expect from an outer deadzone.
The only time I've had any trouble being limited to 50% travel is when flying the default A320, but as you've said, her FM is very docile, needing big inputs. I usually fly GA, so not much of an issue. I'll leave the A320 until Xbox gets the FBW mod, if we get it at all.
Take care.
Ah, NWS is a good point. I’ll give a go and see what’s what anyway. Thanks again for the info and the clarification!
Cheers : )
Serious
I also fly for a living. I ditched the joystick all together on this game and just use controller. Changes I make. I set left bumper to trim down, right bumper to trim up. Y+uparrow = flaps up Y+downarrow = flaps down. Y+leftarrow= spoilers Y+rightarrow gear. I also change my sensitivity curve to ~50% for both elevator and aileron. I have no issue flying anything with these settings and mostly like flying the CJ and Bonanza
Thanks very much for the info! That's a good idea assigning more "ancillary" systems to key combinations, rather than the other way around (as it is somewhat by default). I'm sure others may well find this info useful, so I've pinned your comment accordingly : )
All the best!
Thanks for sharing!
I think trim adjustments are hold Rb + up or down on the right stick by default
Perhaps they’ve changed it then, to simplify things on the Xbox. Back when I recorded, I’m pretty sure it was Y+D-Pad. I like Gold Pilots suggestion though, always good to have trim controls readily available.
Cheers! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations ah right, yeah they must've changed it. now d-pad is flaps on xbox
Looking forward to play this masterpiece on my series x which I got just a about a week ago :)
Nice!
I haven’t had the inclination to pick up a console since the original Xbox, but I have to say; the idea of relaxing on the sofa, with a nice cold drink and flying somewhere scenic with mates, it’s verrrry appealing!
Not too long to wait now. Happy flying! : )
Me to I’d not have even considered it if it wasn’t free with game pass but I’m getting quite excited.
Ah, I hadn’t even considered that it would still be free with game pass! I’m sure we’re going to be seeing a tonne of people (who might otherwise be reticent to try flight simulation out) joining in the virtual skies shortly then! : )
All the best
Sensitivity fine-tuning helps a ton when using a controller as mentioned.
Certainly does! As I say, I found it all fairly manageable, except in pitch. I would definitely play around a lot more with sensitivities etc if I was using a controller full time though. Then again, even with a full setup, you still have to fiddle around a bit to get the sim feeling more reasonable in its current state haha.
Cheers Jared! : )
Long time gamepad user, some suggestions:
- tweak the sensitivity and deadzone settings to get your sweetspot
- use the Xinput Plus program to further tweak your pad and easily separate your triggers as to get them to work as 2 different axis
- buy some rubber grips for the sticks for better grip (they are fairly inexpensive and very useful)
Thanks very much for the info Davide! I’ll pin the comment, hopefully other gamepad users might find it of use : )
All the best
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you! Glad I can help :)
Trouble is, with the increasing popularity of flight simulation, some people can’t afford and / or get hold of a joystick at the moment. I think quite a lot of people are using gamepads as a result (some people also just prefer it). That’s why I thought it would be interesting to see how well a controller actually stacks up : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations you were absolutely spot on in covering this issue, I wrote an article about it sometime ago on RaceDepartment discussing the same subject (in that case, for driving simulations). It is pretty important, I believe, to let people understand that the stygma gamepad users suffer is totally unfair, and detrimental to the well-being of the sim community. Nowadays pads have 16-bit resolution, they can be very precise and they are easier to use effectively thanks to improved ergonomics (plus sims themselves offer more settings to tweak them). Yes, sims are meant to be played with proper hardware, but there is people who may be just new to the hobby, do not have the money or space to afford it, have different priorities or maybe even have some form of disability. Why make them feel unwanted and sorry? The sim community should be more welcoming and open, especially about such a subject that is still lagging behind (look at the very first reply I got to my original comment). We share the same hobby and passion, it makes no sense that we split ourselves into useless factions in such way. So, thank you for this video and I hope it’ll help bring a very much needed change!
Thanks Davide!
I don’t know if my vid will bring any change necessarily, but I totally agree with your sentiment. To my mind, all that matters is that the individual is enjoying themselves (so long as they aren’t disrupting anyone else in the process). Why take up the hobby otherwise?! If people enjoy “casual” simming, then more power to them (and the same goes the other way)! I know what I enjoy, but that doesn’t mean I need to force others to do the same haha.
The elitist attitude that simulation brings out in some is quite baffling; as you say, we all enjoy the same (niche) hobby, we should be supporting one another and building a community as much as we can. That was one of my big goals in setting up the channel.
You’ll always get a few bad characters in any walk of life, but the vast majority of people I’ve come across on the channel so far, have been nothing but friendly, interested and helpful : )
Cheers again, all the best!
Can’t wait to play this on my Series X….
Same! Been waiting forever
Me too, bro
Yeah, not too long now!
I have to say, I don’t own an Xbox, but the idea of relaxing on the sofa and doing some virtual touring is very appealing!
All the best : )
Can't wait to play this on my Series S. Couldn't find any in stock so I had to resort to ebay for a used one but now I'm ready even though it's not an X.
Awesome James. I’m sure I even if it doesn’t have quite the performance of the X, it will be every bit as fun! : )
All the best!
With the new Xbox Elite series 2 controller the shift button might come in handy for Flight Sim. I cannot wait for this game to launch on Xbox. Great video!
The controller I used in this vid is a couple of generations old I think. Not too familiar with the new controller / shift button. Does that allow you to assign different functions to a button, dependant on what position the shift button is in? If so, it will be very useful indeed!
Not too long to wait now! Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks very much and all the best! : )
Nice vid mate, I'm looking forward to playing next month with friends
Xbox sX? Me too
Thanks! Yeah, not too long now!
I don’t own an Xbox, but I imagine it could be realllly nice to chill on the couch and take a leisurely, exploratory flight around an area with mates! : )
All the best!
As someone who uses the controller exclusively right now, holding left bumper basically lets you control the camera like an FPS, it's pretty easy to swoop around the cockpit that way.
Nice Travis. Sounds like they’ve updated / improved the default controls since I recorded this then (I believe they did for the release of the Xbox).
Cheers! : )
Hi. I've been using an Xbox controller for a few months, but have finally taken the plunge and bought a better control system. The Thrustmaster - T-Flight Full kit X was delivered last week. So I intend to get it set up this weekend and hopefully have a lot smoother and more accurate control. The Joypad acceleration and deceleration drives me crazy. The rudder and the pitch are very sensitive too. I love flying the Trikes. It's great fun. Keep up the great videos.
That’s brilliant MC! It really is a “game changer”, moving from a gamepad, to even the most basic of joystick setups - I’m sure you’ll get a lot of value / enjoyment out of the T-Flight kit. A gamepad is workable, I used one myself for many years, but it’s like trying to use a mini-golf putter, to tee off at Augusta (I know next to nothing about golf, but I think that analogy works haha) - not ideal equipment for the task.
I hope you have a tonne of fun with your new setup! Happy flying and all the best : )
Mapping your rudder to LT and RT is key.
Hi Jan,
Isn’t this the default mapping though? I was using the left and right triggers for rudder in the video, I didn’t change the controller setup beforehand. I found most of the controls manageable, but rudder definitely seemed a bit sub-optimal.
Cheers : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations i agree. Everything but rudder control is my problem.
Hi Chris,
Yes, unfortunately I think a controller is always going to be generally a little trickier, but the sim could also use some work (at least based on my experiences) in how the rudder operates via gamepad inputs.
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yeah, so I've read. I'll try tuning some more this evening. I tried using my crappy HOTAS yesterday, and the left throttle slide control and rudder buttons weren't be picked up by the game. lol
Oh, well that’s a shame (regarding the HOTAS). Do you think it’s a software or hardware issue? I’m surprised the sim isn’t picking it up, I thought it worked with just about anything. . .
Hope you manage to get it figured out and sorted : )
Brilliant vid. Well done. Subbed.
Thanks very much Charlie, much appreciated! Welcome aboard! : )
I fly mostly GA aircraft and use a controller almost exclusively for the moment, as my current desk isn't large enough to use a HOTAS without crashing my stick into my monitor. I found that once I got used to it, I can control the plane pretty well. I keep the flaps on LB and RB and use Y+up and Y+down for the trim.
Rudders are tricky, but I very much prefer the triggers to a twist stick. I use an XBox Elite Controller and I've been able to learn the touch pretty well. It may not be a true replacement for a set of rudder pedals, but it does get much better once you get used to it!
Indeed Keith. Whilst I wouldn’t wish to do away with my current setup (we’re actually doing a bit of space reallocation at home at the moment and it’s the one thing, I have resolutely told my wife, will not be going! Haha), a controller can be a very reasonable option. As I mentioned during the video, I used one for many years and like most of these things 1) you get used to it 2) you won’t miss something you’ve never had (if one is new to flight simulation).
Like you, I found the rudder to be the trickiest bit with a controller, but I’m sure I could adjust to it given time (and the rudder is a bit fiddly in the sim currently, no matter the setup).
Cheers, all the best! : )
I think the issue with the rudder is because its trying to use what is basically two separate axis to simulate what should be a single axis.
You need to make sure you completely release one trigger before pressing the other or they will cancel each other out.
You could be entirely correct Fred. I didn’t think I was pressing them at the same time, but it can be very easy to lightly rest your finger on one trigger without even noticing; so it’s quite possible that I was inadvertently. As you say, either way it’s not an optimal solution and rudder control is definitely where the controller falls down a bit
All the best : )
Externally it works perfectly...but in the cockpit it just won't stay centred...so irritating!!
BTW....another great vid...as always
Yes, I'm guessing that must be a current sim issue? I had no such problems at the time of recording this, but my camera behaves in exactly the same way now (when using and Xbox controller), despite trying various deadzones, sensitivity settings etc. I presume one the sim updates broke the functionality; very annoying indeed. Hopefully it gets fixed sooner rather than later!
Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks very much once again! All the best : )
Trim is the directional pad. Up/Down nose trim.
I think by default, trim is Y + the directional pad Chase? I could be wrong though. . . Either way, I agree, mapping it to the D pad is definitely the way to go. A much more important function than more camera controls.
Cheers : )
As a casual pilot the game is still really enjoyable with a controller.
It's not ideal well far from it... However I can fly all the planes I like explore regions and so on.
So in my opinion it's definitely good enough to enjoy the game.
That’s it. If it’s good enough for you to enjoy the sim, then that’s all you need! I know a lot of people enjoy MSFS as a “scenery simulator”, so there’s no need for them to be splashing out $100s on peripherals etc. But as I think I proved in the vid, if one wants to learn / do more, having a controller won’t necessarily hold one back (at least in the early stages).
All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I'm having a lot more fun just exploring or well just playing the game as a scenery simulator, than for example flying from Heathrow to J.F.K., while being in Autopilot for ages.
A bonus for me as well that nearly all of the planes I've been on are in the game right now.
Just need an Antonov AN-2 and some helicopters now.
Yeah, fair enough! I generally enjoy VFR simming more than the jets these days as well, especially in MSFS!
I believe there is a developer with an AN2 in the works and if you haven’t tried the freeware H135 helicopter already, it’s well worth a look! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Didn't know they had a helicopter already.
As far as I was aware there were some issues regarding mechanics.
Well anyways I'm going to give it a try then. Flying in a helicopter certainly was a unique experience.
By the way I looked through your channel and didn't see a review of the Carenado Cessna 182 Skylane. Do you own it by any chance?
All the reviews I've seen so far weren't exactly happy with it as a product, however they're all like 6 months old.
I'm interested in it but I don't want to "waste" my money on it.
Do you have any experience with it by chance?
Yeah, it’s well worth a try! Freeware, so no harm in checking it out. It’s not perfect, but it’s already very impressive what the team have achieved! As you say, the sim isn’t even supposed to support rotorcraft yet, but I’d say it’s as good (if not better) than FSX helicopters already.
I’m afraid I neither own nor have I tried the Carenado 182. As much as I would love a C182 in the sim, any addon that comes with the default G1000 is a bit of a non-starter for me.
1) I’m not a big glass cockpit fan generally
2) The default G1000 isn’t very well modelled. So putting it in a payware aircraft is a poor choice in my opinion (and a bit lazy - Carenado used to have their own custom G1000 in FSX / P3D for example).
So unfortunately I can’t give you any feedback on it really. From what I’ve seen, I would say it’s probably not really worth the money, but also not a “bad” product. I nearly picked it up in the Christmas sale myself. I think at half-price it’s probably a reasonable purchase.
Sorry I can’t be of more help on that one.
All the best! : )
Amazing Welsh pronunciation - you sound like a native!
Thank you very much Mike! : )
I have to say, it always puts a little smile on my face when I hear that. One of my first MSFS videos on the channel was a run around the Mach Loop and I received an awful lot of friendly ribbing from the Welsh contingent, due to my rather woeful pronunciations haha.
Anyway, I figured if I was going to make a series focusing on the Mach Loop, I’d better try and learn the place names etc. So I tried my best to go away and do that. Got a bit of feedback from some of my viewers on my efforts etc. It seems that more or less paid off, as I’ve had one or two comments like yours now. So mission success I would say! That being said, if I haven’t done a Mach Loop flight in a while, it still takes my brain a little time to “warm up” when pronouncing Machynlleth haha.
Anyway, thanks very much! All the best : )
How many of us actually use any stick or yoke with default settings? 1/10 of your test should have been default, then customize until ‘you’ are happy. No matter the sim, unless you have a few thousand dollars, you’ll never get to feel the controls. Working on some VFR is a bit tricky with any setup but it is possible and helpful, but obviously IFR is defiantly something anyone will find very useful. And this is very possible with a controller. Customizing sensitivity curves and adding actually useful controls makes a game pad one of my favorite. Also you can easily add a wireless keyboard to supplement your needs on console. Especially for start up and so on.
Microsoft will have the controls figured out for the Xbox release. And using keyboard and mouse to supplement other games has been possible for years. I think it would be better for everyone to promote and really try hard to see what a game pad can actually to. If only to get the stick and yoke price gouging to level off as quickly as possible.
In my experience of getting every form of controls to work in sims the high end game pads have been one of the most fun things to use. And most people buying MSFS2020 is really in it for the fun right now. A month after release we’ll see a flood of thrustmaster HOTAS Ones (whatever the name is) being resold as people go back to wireless controls. I don’t know how I feel about that, hopefully if the xbox experience isn’t good enough they’ll try PC.
Hi Adrian,
Yes, you’re probably right - I didn’t really consider things from that point of view at the time. I went with the “plug and play” approach, as I wanted to get the default experience, but as you say, I’m sure most will ultimately adjust sensitivity settings etc themselves. I set out to illustrate that a gamepad was an acceptable method of controlling aircraft in the sim and I think on that front the video does what it’s supposed to (though again in hindsight, it could have been optimised).
Personally I would still prefer a cheap joystick over a game pad, but to each there own. I’ve had a lot of comments from people stating that they prefer the controller option for convenience, comfort, cost etc - very understandable. I agree that if one wants to go down the controller route, a mouse and keyboard would be highly beneficial (a necessity really for the more complex aircraft).
I hope that Microsoft / Asobo do indeed tweak the controls before releasing the Xbox version. Overall it was more than manageable, but the rudder control left a lot to be desired. Given that we’ve still seen no improvements to rudder sensitivity in the sim (not just on gamepad, but generally) after almost a year now, I’d say there’s no guarantee that they will.
I’m sure a large majority of people coming into the sim on the console, will be looking to simply have a bit of fun. The gamepad would be the obvious choice for that of course (and frankly, being able to relax in the sofa and cruise around, sounds very appealing to me too!). It will be interesting to see how many people have a fleeting interest and how many take up the hobby long-term. I suspect more will stick with it than one might expect. Quite a few were predicting a deluge of cheap PC peripherals by now, as people got bored with the sim. That doesn’t seem to have materialised yet. . .
Anyway, thank you for your input. All the best!
Am I correct in thinking they have since updated/smoothed out the controls since release? I recently bought an Xbox Series X and the Elite Series 2 controller. I haven’t made any adjustments on anything and it’s very much playable. I’ve only been flying GA aircraft so far. Usually right after liftoff I add some downward trim to keep the plane from gradually going nose upward to maintain a modest climb.
Asobo may well have done, Josh. I recorded this before the console version of the sim even existed; it stands to reason that Asobo might have adjusted the control sensitivities ahead on the sim coming to the Xbox. If I recall correctly, the default control profile didn’t used to have any sensitivity curves, whereas now it does, so that would probably account for the difference.
Enjoy the sim! Happy flying and all the best : )
Like with any other controller option: as long as you're comfortable using it, go for it.
I'm a gamepad user as well. While I do have a decent yoke and stick, grabbing a gamepad is just nice to get in a quick flight. I've used gamepads since the days of the NES, so I'm perfectly fine controlling everything with one. Heck, I used to fly on a laptop with one of those small track nubbins. I can fly anyhthing with my gamepad just fine. If you practice long enough you can probably land an A320 with a Dance Dance Revolution mat...
Haha, exactly Bjorn! Of course it’s nice to have a “proper” setup, but using a controller certainly needn’t be a barrier to entry (and indeed has its own benefits)!
Landing with a dance mat. . . now there’s an idea for a challenge! : D
All the best
@@IntotheBlueSimulations You should check out Lethamyr's playlist "Rocket League on Unique Controllers". he has been teasing a DDR mat video for the past couple months
Haha, ok. Certainly not something I’ve come across, but sounds fun. Thanks for the heads up!
(Sounds a bit like Jimmy Broadbent racing with his Guitar Hero controller haha).
Cheers, all the best! : )
Salut comment sur Xbox série x : Zoumer vue intérieur ?je ne parvient pas à regarder en détails les instruments car je sais pas comment zoomer peut tu m’aider ?🚨🚨🚨🚨
Bonjour Jeremie,
J'ai bien peur que ce ne soit pas quelque chose que je connaisse bien, car je n'utilise généralement pas de manette Xbox.
Il se peut qu'il n'y ait pas de raccourci clavier assigné au zoom par défaut. Vous devez accéder au menu des paramètres de contrôle et attribuer un bouton (ou une combinaison de boutons) au zoom, puis vous devriez pouvoir utiliser la fonction de zoom. Sinon, vous pouvez utiliser les fonctions de zoom du menu déroulant de la caméra, mais cela pourrait être un peu fastidieux.
J'espère que ça aide un peu. Tous mes vœux! : )
Thank you
My pleasure once again Kevin. Thanks as always! : )
“not great, not terrible” 🙂
Hahaha, couldn’t have put it better myself Péter!
Either way, it was defiantly better than “3.6” Roentgen : /
@@IntotheBlueSimulations exactly 😃
Ah great , now you know how i feel !! LoL !! ( coming into land in the Fiat G-91 , nearly stall speed and a massive cross wind , arrragh !! ) . In fairness , i've spent some time adjusting sensitivities etc on the controller, and truth be told , it isn't that bad. I also like the versatility of the controller . I can move from the man cave to the living room ( when the mrs heads for bed ) , and fly a bit on the 55inch tv , without having to move lots of joysticks / peripherals etc etc .
Haha yeah, that ought to provide quite the challenge on a gamepad! As I say, overall I found it more manageable than I was first expecting, though rudder was still tricky. Great for versatility though as you say. A couple of other people have said the same thing. I love having my proper setup, but it can be a right pain changing peripherals in and out and they sure take up a lot of space.
Certainly I think the controller would be a more than adequate solution if you want to keep things flexible / mobile.
Cheers, all the best : )
Haha, well it’s certainly good for that also! Stuck in quarantine or something? I used to work for Q Hotels for a short while, so there you go haha.
Well, if it’s a holiday - enjoy! If it’s a Quaratine - hope it isn’t too dull. All the best! : )
Just cured it....through Steam big picture controller config...clicked on right thumbstick..then advanced...then moved the two dead zone sliders to the far right...just short of fully right..perfect now...maybe of help to you or anyone else with the same issue
Ah, thanks for the info! I don’t generally use an Xbox controller myself, but I’ll be sure to pass on the info, if I come across anybody else having the same issues : )
Cheers!
I fly a Piaggio turboprop in real life and just bought a series x knowing that MSFs is now on console but I’m definitely struggling to fly the plane with a controller. Think I’ll be getting a joystick like how I used to have with my PC setup years ago.
Hi Harry,
Nice! Is it a nice machine to fly?
Yes, no doubt a joystick is the better option in terms of control. Well worth getting one if you can.
All the best! : )
There are combination keys. I remember trim is Y + up or down on D pad
Correct, I figured this out afterwards haha. I’d definitely prefer having the trim assigned straight to the D pad though, it’s much more important in my mind than a few extra camera controls.
Thanks for the info : )
Nice. Hmm, I think the Xbox controller may be more optimized to use when the game release on Xbox series X)S next month.
Thanks John : )
Yes, I would hope Asobo will spend a bit more time optimising the control options for the game pad. It’s ok as it is, but could certainly be improved from where it is now.
All the best!
Hi can you tell me how to use ailerons using the controller as I am trying to do it on fs academy jet liner and it is asking me to do ailerons full left and I don't know how any help would be appreciated thanks
Hi John,
If memory serves me correctly, ailerons are on the left joystick. Full left should just be flicking the joystick over to the left; if it's not registering in FS Academy, my guess would be that perhaps you have a control calibration issue. Have you adjusted your control sensitivities at all etc (a deadzone for example, might stop FS Academy from registering the input). Otherwise I'm not too sure what might be causing the issue I'm afraid.
I hope that put you on the right track! All the best : )
I use a gamepad simply because it's a lot less faffing around than swapping out multiple peripherals (not to mention finding a place to store them when not in use). There is no reason you cant use Track IR and the game pad and like any peripheral dialling in your key mappings and sensitivity is everything, it took me some time to map things to a useable state and I'm still having to mess around with deadzones and sensitivity tuning. The rudder is a hot mess unless you change it to Axis, and evben then it's still fairly useless. Also in settings, auto rudder on the ground is your friend. The default settings for a gamepad are terrible but with a bit of work it can be made eminently useable. Never going to replace hundreds of pounds worth of peripherals, but I also don't have store them and faff about whenever i change from a stick to a yoke. Casual simmer and proud of it lol
So very true. It’s a right pain having to swap peripherals in and out, especially if you’re lazy like me haha. I often find myself flying with sub-optimal controllers, just to avoid the changeover process. Storage is also a big issue as you say, my study is pretty much at max capacity on the peripherals front (a shame, as I would love to try the Authentikit Spitfire controls).
Of course one could definitely use a controller + TrackIR. I just wanted to “simulate” what it would be like coming into the hobby fresh and with the most basic of setups. As I mentioned in the vid, I used a controller for about 2 years when starting flight simulation, but controls / sims were generally a bit more simple back then. I was interested to see if it’s still a tenable solution. . .
Haha, absolutely nothing wrong with a bit of casual simming! I do a bit myself from time to time - better keep that on the down-low though : P
So long as we’re all enjoying it, that’s all that matters! : )
All the best
Great Video
Thanks Reece!
Something a little bit different, but I thought it’d be interesting to see how much of a difference it made, given that I haven’t flown with a controller in years. Overall, it was more manageable that I would have thought.
Sorry it still wasn’t in an Airbus though (yet) haha ; )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Keep up the good work. You flying again??
Cheers, will do my man!
Yeah, still flying on and off. Been in the sim (the real one) quite a bit recently though. Trying to remember what to do haha. . .
@@IntotheBlueSimulations total respect for the amount of hours and training in the SIM you Pilots have to do it's admirable. Keep up the great Videos and I'm sure I will have lots more questions 😂👍
There is a way to get the rudder working better on the triggers, but by default it's terrible
Ah ok. Is it pretty straightforward (eg via the sim menu), or does it require a bit of tweaking behind the scenes? As you say, by default they are far from ideal!
All the best : )
Cool vid would of been great to see your game pad
Thanks Tom! Yeah, that probably would have been a good idea wouldn’t it. It didn’t really occur to me at the time. . .
I don’t really have any decent recording equipment at the moment mind you, but maybe I’ll at least look into getting a little grip / tripod for my phone, so that I can consider these sorts of things in the future.
Cheers, all the best : )
what about activating the buttons and switches in the cockpit? i noticed you are still using a keyboard to lower the gear this wont be an option on xbox it will have to be keybinded to a button, or using the controller to move a mouse pointer on screen?
Good question Christian,
Actually the video was not originally intended to be a demonstration of the Xbox per se, but rather an analysis of how good controllers were for flight simming (as many PC users also make use of them).
My take on it though: in short, GA aircraft should be no problem (due to their lower number of controls), commercial jets would be very tricky to fly with just a controller though. You can assign whichever control you like to whichever button and key combinations can also be used (so that drastically increases the number of assignments you could theoretically have), but setting autopilot parameters for example - I think would still get tricky and you’d end up with a messy controller setup at any rate.
I did go away and do some reading though; my understanding is that actually a standard mouse and keyboard does work with the modern Xboxes? If that is correct, controller + mouse and keyboard would definitely be the way to go in my opinion.
Hope that helps a bit?
All the best : )
I believe R3? possibly L3? is a default gear bind for xbox controller
Great information video. Looking to buy this on PC. I already have Track IR and I am wanting to use the Xbox controller as I have no room for a dedicated controller. Can the Track IR not be used with the Xbox controller?
Thanks Terry, glad you enjoyed it!
Ah, sorry, maybe I was a bit misleading. You should be absolutely fine to use a TrackIR and controller combo! I just wanted to exclude TrackIR from the video, to get a feel for how easy (or not) it was, controlling both the aircraft and the camera at the same time. You shouldn’t have any issues using them together.
All the best and happy flying! : )
I have a Logitech controller (which is really a copy of a PlayStation or Xbox controller); which I find great and easy to use. Only thing is not really a decent throttle (you have to click A & B madly! If anyone has suggestions/recommendations for best set-up?
Just a thought Richard; what if you assign the throttle to the D-Pad and then the trim to the A/B buttons, will you still have to click madly in that configuration?
All the best! : )
The d pad is the trim buttons.
Thanks Stephen! I think by default I found it to be Y+dpad (on my setup anyway). It definitely makes much more sense to me, to assign the dpad directly for trim though.
All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulationsyes your right, y+dpad, I have it on pc but am a console player mainly. Looking forward to the release. Thanks for the reply.
Yeah, not long now! Will be interesting to see how the Xbox version compares : )
Cheers, all the best!
I hope before it comes the xbox thay made better stability for the controller.
Yeah, will be interesting to see what’s actually changed in the sim to optimise it for the Xbox. Certainly improving controller functionality / compatibility would be an obvious area for improvement.
Sounds like we might find out fairly soon anyway! : )
All the best Harry
Or you adjust it in the settings.
Compared to PC based MSFS, how easy would it be playing on XBOX Series X console? Do I still need to go through the hours of pre-flight training?
Good question,
They should be identical I believe. I don’t think Microsoft is changing the core of the sim in any way for the Xbox. MSFS is very accessible to newcomers though. There are plenty of “pilot aids” that you can turn on to make things much easier (more Ace-Combat-esque in terms of control style / handling). There are also navigation markers, landing guidance markers etc that you can turn on and ultimately you can even turn crash detection off.
In short, if you just want to have some fun and enjoy the scenery, the sim is still very accessible. You should be able to jump in with little to no training and still enjoy the open world (and maybe you’ll then chose to pick things up as you go along).
Hope that helps clear things up a bit? All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you so much! Most helpful. I will find out on 27 July!
You’re most welcome! I might actually try and do a video on this very subject before release (if I can find the time), but as you say, the definitive proof will be available on the 27th. I’m sure you’ll get on with it just fine though ; )
All the best!
When MFS2020 comes to XBOX X....they have a thing called the Xbox adaptive controller, you plug your nice and cheap Logitech 3D Pro joystick into it, and Boom! You are now on the X, flying the aircraft, including those two nice helicopters, with a joystick, complete with yaw control for those crosswind landings! At least thats the way I understood it. I know the xbox controller here in this video is for other things...just saying
Ahh, ok, that’s great to know Steve! Should make the Xbox a much more accessible option then. I wonder if it will work with all peripherals. . .
Cheers : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations USB joysticks, Cant we just plug a simple joystick in and get recognized? I suppose no vr for the Xbox X ?
I’m not sure Steve. I believe a standard mouse and keyboard works just fine with an Xbox (which would certainly be useful for simming), so it’s quite plausible that a basic joystick would work correctly as well. Seems like we’ll be seeing some customised equipment just for Xbox simming though and I’m sure a few more examples will follow.
I’ve no idea for VR. Does Xbox have native VR (I haven’t come across it)? At any rate, I believe MSFS performance is going to be somewhat marginal already on the Xbox, so I think that would make VR a no-go.
All the best : )
Hey Pilot! May I ask which resolution gives better performance in sim? 1366x768 or 1280x720? Because I don't really have a good specs to run the game...
I am using Intel® Core™ i5-8250U CPU @ 1.60GHz 1.80 GHz 20.0 GB DDR4 Rams (19.9 GB usable) MX150 2GB VRAM 256SSD (Installed the game in)
Sometimes 1366x768 gives me better FPS but maybe is not stable, could you guide me it in pilot :D?
Hi Joel,
Well I’m not an expert, but in theory 1280x720 should give you better performance. Generally speaking, the lower the resolution, the less pixels you’re drawing and so the easier it is for your computer. Strange that you’ve been experiencing the opposite though. . . I presume you’ll have quite a lot of your settings turned down, make sure you have AI traffic off as well as that can hurt the FPS quite a bit.
What sort of FPS are you getting out of interest? Have you considered looking into older sims, that might run a little bit better on your system?
All the best to you : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Average of 18 FPS :D!
Haha, I’m sure I’ve put up with much the same back in the days of FS2000 etc. Is it smooth at 18fps (I’m intrigued ha)?
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yes is good to fly with but the graphics are kinda bad...
That’s why I was wondering if it isn’t worth trying an older sim, where you can max out the graphics. Might look better overall. . .
Just a suggestion, of course do what you think you’ll enjoy the most! : )
Does anyone know how to shut down the main Engine on controller
Hi Zara,
I don't know if there is a specific button assigned to the controller for that by default - it may be that you have to assign a button yourself : )
All the best!
So can you press all the switches with using the xbox controller?
In theory, yes David. You can assign whatever control you like to any button and you can also use button combinations (of course giving you a much greater number of options). However, whilst this is perfectly adequate for a simple GA aircraft, I don’t think it will really be workable for a complex jet. I think you’d run out of buttons to assign and it would also be fiddly operating the autopilot etc.
I did some reading recently though, it sounds like a standard keyboard and mouse will actually work with the Xbox. In my opinion, I would say this will be a necessity (especially the mouse) if you want to fly complex jets.
Hope that helps a bit? All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thanks very much I just don't fancy using a xbox control for the flight sim
You’re very welcome David! Yeah, on it’s own, a controller will be tricky for anything other than a light aircraft. In terms of handling though it’s “ok”, which was really what I was aiming to test in this video.
All the best : )
The controls for the Xbox controller will probably be more optimized for Xbox series X/S when the game release next month. Sure the game is mainly a PC game, but it's being ported to Xbox now, so they'll make it more optimized for the controls on the controller most likely
@@user-John9236 I'll just buy a mouse and keyboard
how do you know where you are heading is there a Gps?
Hi Yahusha,
Do you mean in these specific flights, or in the sim generally? In the sim there is a GPS available in most aircraft and also a map available (although the map detail is pretty basic). Neither of these will be very user-friendly in helping you get around, unless you’re at least mildly familiar with aerial navigation.
The sim does also have 3D visual aerial markers + a few other assistance options to help you navigate should you wish. They should make things much simpler. I’m afraid I’m not all that familiar with how those work though.
Hope that helps answer your question? All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I am new with this sim.do you have tutorials?
I do have some, though they are more based around learning real-world aviation techniques, as opposed to learning the sim itself.
The first one teaches you most of the basics of flying - up to navigation:
ruclips.net/p/PLaI08doFZ-LIK-PAyRGF7NDZDM88FpOVp
This one teaches you the basics of the Airbus, if you’re keen to get up in the jets:
ruclips.net/p/PLaI08doFZ-LLwILOP5X4Ehloc4Ux5eVN
Not sure if they’re quite what you’re looking for, but hopefully they are of some use : )
If you have any more questions, feel free to ask!
Fascinating experiment! However, it rather confirms my thoughts that we have a "game" here, rather than a Flight Simulation? They are releasing for X box after all. Good point re the Airbus, after take off it's all flown by the 5 onboard computers anyway, ELAC and SEC. I bet they could put an X box controller where the side stick is..lol. Enjoyed the Loop...going to grab the 339 and fly it with my X52 Pro..lol!
Thanks, yeah I thought it would be something a little bit different to try. . Ahh, I don’t know about that David. I seem to be in the minority here haha, but I still think MSFS stacks up well as a sim in some respects. It’s more of a “pilots” sim than a “test-pilots” sim if that makes sense. It does a good job of recreating the “feel” of flight when cruising around, it all just falls apart a bit at the edges of the envelope. This can of course still be worked on though and indeed I hope it will! It suits me down to the ground, as I like just cruising around, but of course it’s not much use for those who enjoy their “dynamic” flying. Wouldn’t be much good for evading SAMs in your F18 for example hehe. All of this only applies to the GA stuff though, for jets, it’s still generally a bit rubbish at the moment.
Haha, exactly. The same is still true of the Boeing’s though. Rotate, count to about 5 and then pop the autopilot in ha. A controller really isn’t going to hold you back much on that front. Might make the landings a bit trickier, but you can always autoland (although you’d be taking your life into your own hands attempting that in MSFS currently!).
Cheers David, hope you enjoy the MB339 and your joystick! ; )
Your voice sounds familiar. Yorkie right?
Haha, not me I’m afraid. I must have a very generic voice though, I’ve been mixed up with a number of different people XD
I presume you’re referring to MrYorkiesWorld are you? : )
All the best!
Leisure Gamer: Please: (i) what are the Buttons to the left and right of Power Button for, (ii) How do I get Active Pause ✈
Hi Adebowale,
From what I can see online, the left button is internal / external view toggle and the right button is the toggle pause button. I don’t know whether or not “toggle pause” is the same as active pause but if not, you will simply need to assign a button on your controller to the active pause function (should you wish to make use of it).
I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
One alternate controller idea I'm curious about: I've heard it suggested that some people have used a USB volume knob as a trim wheel.... how well does that actually work?
I’ve seen the same and thought what a great idea it was. Maybe I’ll look into sourcing one and trying it out. If I do, I’ll be sure to make a vid on it : )
When will we get a military flight stick for Xbox
It’s not something I know a whole lot about I’m afraid; but it seems as though the first “HOTAS” for the Xbox is due out around mid-October:
news.xbox.com/en-us/2021/07/22/official-microsoft-flight-sim-accessories/
All the best : )
Yea, I quite like use a xbox controller, but it's because here, in Brazil, a full setup for flight sim. is around 3000BRL, not worth it.
Sadly equipment is pretty pricey wherever you are these days. As with most things, the Xbox controller has its advantages and disadvantages. It’s certainly very convenient in many ways and is great for more “relaxed” sessions. Cost effective as well of course.
Cheers Matheus! : )
Using a mouse is not what is going to be happening when users play the game on Xbox. I came here to see how the game plays using a controller and controller only, not a bloody PC mouse
You can use mouse on xbox etc... but there is a flight controller (well 3 dedicated ones) coming to xbox?
That might be what you came here to see Mark, but that isn’t what the video was all about I’m afraid (nor does it claim to be). Actually this video (which is a few months old) was looking to see how viable using an Xbox controller is, in place of more typical flight sim peripherals (for which the prices are inflated currently and a lot of hardware can be hard to come by).
Overall I would say for a GA aircraft it can do the job. For the heavy jets etc though, the number of buttons available vs the number of control assignments you’re going to need, will become an issue. Particularly for operating systems like the autopilot. As Bloodstock states, I believe you can use a standard mouse and keyboard on a modern Xbox and I would suggest that this will be well worth having and practically a necessity (especially the mouse) if you plan on flying any complex / jet aircraft.
Cheers
That was my understanding and I certainly think it would be hugely beneficial tool to have, when simming on the Xbox! Cheers Bloodstock : )
Adjust the dead zone in the controller profile
Sorry Redridge, I don’t quite follow?
Are you saying a better setup would have been beneficial?
All the best!
This is what I realy want to do and not spend a load of money on a new PC how bout getting an Xbox and connecting a yoke and rudder peddles and Throttle and Deluxe Flight Sim version
Yeah, the Xbox version should certainly be a more economical way of getting into the sim for a lot of people. I don’t own an Xbox personally, but apparently they will be creating some sort of option where a lot of existing PC hardware can be adapted to work with the Xbox. So potentially the Xbox version could offer a very valid simming option.
All the best : )
Manage game msfs...forgot to add that
Ah ok, cheers! : )
Learned very little from this video. You don't even mention how to use the controller with the drone camera, which is my main interest in using a controller.
Ah, well I’m sorry you feel like you didn’t come away with much. . . In fairness though, the video doesn’t claim to be a tutorial. As per the title / description; I simply wanted to test how suitable an Xbox controller was for controlling an aircraft in the sim (as peripherals are very pricey these days and can be hard to get hold of).
All the best.
Is this on series x or Xbox one?
It's been announced that the Xbox one will not be able to handle the game.. Xbox series x and s will work.. you should get the series x instead of the s.. I got my series x and so far it's been perfect and I can't wait for the game
Hi Vinny,
As Jackson mentions, it will be on the Xbox X and S I believe .
All the best : )
Thanks Jackson! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations welcome
@@jacksonplayz3170 it'll run the same on the S, graphics will just be lower on the series S..
i dont think the controller is good so im gonna use a a320 stick so i can concentrate
A joystick is undoubtedly better, if you have the option : )
All the best!
D4r
I’m afraid I’m nowhere near cool enough to have any clue what that means? : D
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