The CRAZIEST Bike I've Ever Ridden! - Trying a Linkage Fork! Whistler Bike Park | Jordan Boostmaster
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- I tried a really unique bike at crankworx! It is by Structure Cycleworks and as you can see they have a crazy linkage system for their front suspension. I took it for a rip on the Whistler trails and I have some thoughts about it!
It is an enduro bike and the special thing about this front suspension is that it gets slacker as you compress which is the opposite of traditional telescopic forks. What do you think of this?!
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What do you guys think of something like this? I think the market for this kind of bike is smaller, and I think they know that as well, at least for now. I believe the simplicity of the regular telescopic forks are always going to keep it at the forefront of the market no matter how good a linkage fork can get. I think that at the end of the day average people like simplicity and things that look cool.
I think we will know that one of those linkage forks is actually good when a big company picks it up. This and/or the gearbox (which lends itself to real rear suspension improvements) will be the next MTB revolution IMO.
@@kitten-inside I always liked the idea of the gear box, it's funny how it really hasn't stuck at all!
Jordan Boostmaster Hey I just got a notification from RUclips recommending this video and I will definitely be subscribing.
@@bustoms Dive reduction is what this bike is all about, as can be seen in Jordan's video. It seems likely that you needed a bit more pressure in the front shock. We try to get setup just right for each rider, so here's hoping we get another chance to set up the front with more pressure for you on a future ride.
Like you said doesn’t look the best but super interested in the fact it gets slacker for steep gnarly stuff. Love the way you portrayed your opinion on this one bud not for you but possibly for racing this maybe something we see more of especially in sponsored racers
He was trying think of the nicest way to say it’s bad
Given that he is about my height and seems to hate bikes with a 470mm reach while i cannot for the life of me ride a 430mm bike and ride a 470mm at the moment, his impressions actually make a lot of sense to me. He´s all about freeride and jumps, while i´m not a big jumper and prefer a less playful riding style, coming from a racing background. So if he says the bike doesn´t fit his riding style, i can 100% see why. it´s the same for high pivot bikes, which track the ground superbly, but they can feel a little weird on jumps.
Ha, yeah I was thinking the same thing: uh "yeah it handled everything." Nice way to say I'm not really jazzed with this weirdo.
I don't see anything wrong with saying, "The size wasn't suited and its built for a different riding style." That's very different from saying, "it's not a good bike." If the same design was perfect for everyone, we would all have the same bike and significant other (how confusing would that be?)
Jordan's immediate response after his ride was far from negative. The man likes bikes with a 425mm reach. If that makes the SCW1 a bad bike, there are innumerable bad bikes. Why not come for a ride with us and judge for yourself, as many others have? Or check out unscripted rider testimonials @ride_structure on Instagram.
The rep had really bad timing, turning the camera on him as soon as he rolled up. Get some impressions first. Then ask him why he thought it was a good enduro don't discuss what it doesn't do well. IMHO the rep needed to step up his game and timing. wicked riding btw!
Lol when he pulls out his phone at the end expecting praise and Jordan starts talking shit
I love how excited the booth guy was and started taking a video waiting for the glowing review.... And then the look of disappointment. Very unique. I'm very very happy that exists, good or bad. This is thinking.
Just saying, that was one of the most awkward conversations I’ve had to listen to ever
Best part of the video: 8:37
Structure Cycleworks Salesman: *Records Jordan with phone*
Jordan: "It's longer than what I'd prefer"
Salesman: *Puts phone away*
@@carterpleasance3097 woah I don't even remember making this comment. Surprised it has so many likes lol
Pretty unique bike. Excited to see how this concept develops
They went outta business because of covid
RIP
@@mav5204 Based on what? They are shipping bikes this month according to their Facebook
@@mav5204 I think you are thinking about this other linkage fork company, I think they where called Trust or something.
They had a really unique design and I wanted to test one of those badly!
I hope they’ll find a new investor after Covid is over.
If I remember correctly the guy who designed all the DW suspension links is involved in that fork project (David Wiegel or something? Forgive me my ignorance but I’m not good with names..)
Update: it didn’t
How does this guy ride bikes that he's not used to and still go the speed of sound
I was thinking this too, if it looks fast on video its ludicrous speed in real life. Smashing it!
He knows those trails like the back of his hand.
Big balls.
Mr miyagi: it is because he a know his shit!
Nessman David it’s actually the opposite. The video makes it look faster than it is due to the fov from a gopro
Props for not getting hung up on the weird looks and focusing on the performance.
I kinda like the bike. Normally these linkage bikes have some sort of "poser aura", like you just know it was made to be bought by people who never will push it to its limits anyways, yet this thing somehow gives the impression of being built to be ridden hard. It really looks solid.
It was nice to see it can actually shred hard and back up its looks.
I've been into motorcycles since I was a kid, so I love telescopic forks. But I have to say that I think it's good that a few companies are going in a different direction, trying to come up with solutions to the negative aspects of telescopic forks.
samurai pizza cat.. that's the best trail name i have ever heard
EDIT: i like apples
Is that hosico?
True
wait till you see the tv show
Anime digital is still trying to keep up with that kind of that's why everything went extinct
r/iamveryrandom
Hahaha, as a UX Researcher at a software company I couldn’t help but chuckle at them trying to get detailed feedback from you at the first when you were just like, “yeah, it’s good.”
That bike has a face only a mother could love!
Argh I hate this new swipe thing RUclips added I keep accidentally swiping between videos
@@tylermarin2379 Yeah its disturbing.
I love it, use it all the time. Get Premium and get rid of ads
Fabian Strøm premium is gay don’t buy it
Oh yeah PAY because of this annoying new feature,that makes sense.🙄
Theres no option to turn off? Never had a problem like this, and i use premium to dont have adds.
Finally a high tech expensive bike that sounds like mine 😀
As I'm fairly "new" to MTB... EVERYTHING is new to me 😂 so I'm pretty open to just about anything....
Dont be open to this. Shut that door early
The Crashing Dad this one is bad😂😂😂
9:10 did he say you have to use body english to get up steep climbs?
Yeah he also ollies bikes
@Owen Clark Long live Pigpen
"Some expert, amateur pro guy said it was the best climbing bike they have ever ridden"
8:57 “it’s corona time”
Owen Schmidt the real origin of it was in whistler 😳😳😳
I came to the comment section to find this😂😂😂
I just thought to myself🤣
He was one Nanometer away from death
His "Whoos" and "Yeahs" during his ride tell a different story than his review at the end. I placed my order sight unseen in January. I can't wait.
Don’t know if I could get over the visual of the linkage over the front tire, but definitely a cool concept
Here's how this works:
Two swing arms control the axle path through the travel. The shock is mounted to the lower arm and the frame. The front linkage is only for steering. It takes no shock load. It is hinged in three places to allow for the axle path. I want it.
This video is hella motivational! Your prospective is wonderful. Thanks for the content.
I was guilty of making a negative comment on the looks of the bike on Instagram, I'm glad to see it out on the trail and in the hands of a great rider. I'll definitely have to do a better job at keeping an open mind. Thanks for the review.
Unique bike + AWESOME RUclipsr!=amazing video!
*as always from Jordan*
I couldn't agree more with your comments.
Me: How much travel does it have?
Guy: maybe
I love your mtb channel. Just a pure riding channel no filler
I was ok with the integrated cockpit on the Scott, but that thing...
It scares me
Funny, i would not ride that Scott stem/handlebar abomination if you paid me money to do so, yet i would totally try this bike.
Good we have a lot of choice these days!
“Some expert amateur pros”
“ We set some pbrs on it”
Cool video Jordan, I not to sure about that bike I would have to ride it to see. Thanks again jordan
Instant sub! Those trails were dope af! New bike looks sick
WOW YOU JUST GO BALLS TO THE WALLS DOWN THAT BIKE TRAIL!! I FELL OF MY COUCH TWICE WATCHING YOU FLY DOWN THEM HILLS!! VERY IMPRESSIVE!!! 🚴♂️
love the vids!!!
Interesting how the front suspension is really a rear shock with complex way of linking the fork, lower frame, with the top and allowing for turning. (There is no real fork suspension for anyone wondering. if you look in the center of the frame. It's a rear shock on the front end, and then the rear shock for the rear end. so two small rear shocks in the middle of the bike.)
That place is gorgeous, makes me wanna start riding again.
Love you vids cannot wait till my shoulder is okay to go shred
Looks wild!!
Screw the bike, you're a madman going through those trails that fast!😂👍
So true about wheels size... thank you for the video
What a crazy lookin bike thanks for the demo ride looked like fun. Way to rip it
Sweet, been waiting on a video for this. You should also check out the shock suspension fork.
The craziest thing is I was thinking about why I've never seen a front linkage suspension like a reverse of a rear suspension and then I see this video same day
Chris Goree im sure you all of a sudden had that strange thought and then at the same time the video just popped up for you. Cool story bro
BMW did a bicylce version of one of their Motorcycle frontsuspensions that works in a similar way.
So your deranged mind is to blame for this monstrosity. Take it back!
As always great job👍👍
But the Batbike I don’t know!!
Very unique but exited to see it evolve but great vid 👍
Really love this kinda innovation. It's people like this which keep me going in life.
You are such a sick rider Jordan, you inspire me to up my skills to get better.
*I like the way the video is straight into it!*
Really interesting approach. I'm not (when I am recovered) good enough to get the benefit of it, I think, the new approach really does look appealing (and yeah, those ¤#"¤( roots on climbs are my least favourite things). Props to you for keeping your open mind and trying out the new stuff.
Woah this was so Smooth : D
I think that the aesthetics of bikes are important. Atleast to me. And this bike looks so wierd and does not really tick my boxes
How often are you looking at your bike while you're riding though?
@@bigredactionsportsstuff1245 I barely even look at my bike while riding except for when something's wrong
@@bigredactionsportsstuff1245 about every ride
Thats wild
Epic riding on a funky bike
From an aesthetic standpoint I prefer the conventional looking full suspension bike, however, if this design is an advantage for racing then I see nothing wrong with thinking outside the proverbial box.
Much respect for skill level!
The trees give me anxiety 😅
This sport is clearly not for me either, I like my bones to stay unbroken😂
Yeah I'd definitely have a go at that! Looks rad! I bet the maintenance on the linkage isn't that either really too
Watching this video feels like going in a roller coaster 🤩
Wow! More stuff I've never needed
+1 for the music:) Great video
I'm guessing the bike is better than my Rock Hopper 29er, but I just can't justify the cost of replacing my bike right now. Especially where I live in Wisconsin, there are more xc singletrack than downhill and I'm just learning how to jump. This bike looks weird, but could be a favorite in the midwest just due to the fact so many trails are as much climb as drop.
This footage is smooth af
Such an amazing place.
That steering linkage was the only thing standing between him and the grim reaper on the descend. 😂💀
A honest review in the face of the hyped up salesman wanting to make a huge PR with his phone. Big Respect. =)
i wish you would of filmed the suspension in action
ruclips.net/video/RngpD3wTcF0/видео.html
Krazy run man but think about this in mid 90s huffy came out with dr shock it had shocked front forks i begged my mom to get it for me and she did i tryed everything to get them shocks to compress never could no matter how hard i road basically all the mountain bikes i see with shocks bring me back to that memory
hmm very different, yes?
That's the fastest I seen you going down!!! I get the ingeniery..
3:00 to 3:17 the struggle of having no oxygen when you use maximum effort
8:55 + hmhmh, ya .. sweet .. kk lemme go, was fun.
lol ! thumbed up
They didn’t go out of business. My friends step dad owns the company and they are still shipping out bikes! I got to ride one a few weeks ago and I’d definitely recommend getting one if you have the money!
3:24 he gain so much speed off the drop or roll feature, and its so smooth
That front end gives me hellish ideas!I can turn this into a rammer and a hard one.Just needs a post apocalyptic paintjob and a guy who is into DIY crazy kind of stuff!
Damn first time watching one of your vids and youre one hell of a rider. Youre so damn good holy shit.
I'm with you, if i wanted to go fast i'd get a burly 29er. But i'd rather have fun.
Fantastic review. Man you were flying down those runs. I like the bike very I interesting design. Maybe a pinion gearbox and belt drive would be cool too.
I’m just counting how many times in this vid that I would’ve died
Always support new technology. The bikes we ride now was new technology once.
thats crazy
The dude just didn't even ask to record your opinion. That right there, I would have just said, thanks for the ride, have a good one.
Let’s hear so more WOOOOOOss🥳🥳
I'm one of the few that finds this bike attractive and I really like the concept. If they make an Ebike I will have to get one...
The only thing I can compare you to is rushing water. How you move so fast it seems effortless it’s awesome.
Your footage with VR goggles will make you fall out of your chair
I rode this in April at the Bow Cycle Blue Light sale. it felt amazing in the parking lot.
Bowcycle Calgary?
@@KokoSupreme ah yes.. Bowcycle in Bowness, Calgary.. Structure had the demo bike out and I ripped around.. once the whole "out of sight out of mind" kicked in it actually corners better than you'd think.
Laying the bike on the derailer, awesome
Whew boy, a leaf spring mountain bike fork. What a country!
Actually it uses the same DVO Topaz T3AIR front and rear, with the same dimensions and tune, with the exception of additional volume spacers up front. No leaf springs!
that bike is so cool
U ride crazy broo
8:57 *dying in the background*
Not sure if I’d buy one. I’d for sure try one!
for me, I think that this is a very interesting take on things. I definitely see as you say that it could very well be nice for racers. But I also think that it's kinda opposite of a lot of other things, I feel like the industry have really been trying to "clean up" bikes, with internal cables, electronic shifters, 1x, etc. so its kinda funny that these guys make a product that totally messem things up again :D. but overall I think that its something cool that I would like to see where goes although im not too sure I personally will get it in the near future, but you never know.
That bike with an Effi Gear gearbox and I'd be sold on it as the ultimate different bike!
Excellent vid and riding Jordan. Great to see innovation - a bit BMW Telelever-esque (motorbikes). I just wonder how bulletproof this would be in a serious front ender? Thanks for making this dude and cheers from Sydney, Aust - Dave
Every bit as bulletproof as a telescoping fork...
Literally my favourite RUclipsr. Keep the great work up
i died every second xD
So funny in the beginning, when the guys are like "This is carbon, carbon is a light material", and Jordan is like "uhh okay, I didn't know that"
Would of liked more detailed shot of frame forks etc looked good though
I’m not sure this exact design is the end of the road, but I think it’s a very good thing if more complex suspension geometries make it onto mountain bikes. The better a fork is, the more you can control how it behaves in certain situations. But the changes it makes in geometry under compression are currently fixed. Once that’s variable, the next step would be introducing suspension linkages between front and rear so that the behaviour of those components can be tuned to each other dynamically. Another cool step would be to see some active suspension that adapts to the feature you’re riding so you no longer have to set up a compromise.
This seems like to me that it would be a great for an e-bike set up
If this makes it to production and also gets some ok sales figures, bikes have finally surpassed motorcycles. They've been trying stuff for ages and still the consumer will not have it. So if this makes it, and I really hope so, maybe it will kick motorcycle manufacturers into action too.