Indirect Soldering - The Precise Method - Soldering Jewellery
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- This film is in response to a question that was asked on one of Andrew's previous films.
The ability to solder indirectly is one that can be used on very delicate wire or small jump rings. The trick is to use a soldering probe to transfer the heat to the link so that it does not melt - always important.
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That was a good question and even better answer! Thanks!!
Yes, question was good and the answer sure solved quite a few small repair jobs for many of us. Thanks. I have melted a few chain links but never thought of this solution.
@@eivindkofod1774 Me too!!! Andrew's got a great teaching style! I'm thinking about joining the jewellers course.
Very cool trick, can you do a bench setup, ergronomics and efficiency video. PLEASE
Yes please listen to Wayne! Not many of us who are starting out our small bench jeweller biz can afford to pay for a new bench. I'm building my own. Any advice you can give will be gobbled up enthusiasticly & welcomed!!!!
Another great tutorial Andrew you explain everything so well which is so important for me as a beginner
Thankyou
I agree!! I took notes and will start practicing this with my bits of delicate chains! Thank you so much for your time commitment to teaching how to do it right the first time!
Thank you! I’ll try this tip tomorrow - practise, practise, practise!
Thank you for this! You may well have just saved my most favorite silver chain I broke last week! It has such minute little links that I have been panicking about mending it myself, and thought I may need to send it to someone more experienced than myself. So not only have you saved my chain, but also my bank thanks you too! 😂😆
Interesting. I had a delicate spiral chain made into an “endless” chain and can’t imagine how they put it back together. It’s a lot smaller than the example you showed but now I see the light!
wonderfull . thank you I have never done so small a piece but have a friend that gave me a necklace so fine that I cringed as to how to solder a broken jump ring
Absolutely brilliant! Thank you so much for this demonstration. This is perfect... just what I needed to know for starting out with delicate repairs. Until I get a feel for soldering I think I'll be less likely to destroy my jewelry doing it this way and then later on move to something more challenging. My jeweler charges $40 just to reattach a tiny spring ring clasp so this will save me money to do my own repairs and also get me to another level of jewelry making. I bought some 20 ga .925 sterling wire to practice making and soldering jump rings. I really can't thank you enough for your taking the time to make this tutorial for me. Many blessings to you. Cheers! 🙂
OMG you are amazing thanks
I think my Jeweller needs to see these tutorials. He can't seem to do these sort of repairs, it's always really messy and ugly.
There is another way I have used for decades. You take and clean your work then flux and place your solder where you want it then you heat your iron to the temp you want and then place it right on top of the solder/joint which will melt the solder completing the joint. I realize it's not technically indirect soldering but it is faster and makes a great joint.
Wouldn’t that make for a weak soldering joint? Cold solder?
Thank you! I’ve been making a mess working to do this exact thing!
That looks like a technique that would work well with a homemade titanium wire in a handle. I imagine a tiny piece of solder trapped in the gap and the ti wire heated a quarter inch away then dropped down . Great work on a touchy job 😃
What is the best way to solder small silver chains? When soldering do we have to heat and melt only the solder material or the chain pice that we want to solder must be heated also?
I just melted a tiny bezel strip I was trying to solder directly. Then I found this tutorial. Hopefully it will work with that. Great advice and skill - thanks so much for all your brilliant videos.
Hi Andrew, I hope you've been well during the pandemic. I'm so glad you left this video here so I could come back and reference it. I took a break from studying bench work but now I'm ready again to try this. I will be making my own jump rings for a bracelet so I should gets lots of practice with this technique. Worst case scenario, I end up with silver balls to add to others pieces. LOL! Thanks again for this video! 🙂
Thank you, I have just bought my little torch and I used to melt prongs and jump rings a lot and with this method will save my sanity!!
Really, really like this technique! Thank you!
Thank you for sharing another great tip. 🇨🇦😎
Hi Andrew, brilliant advice. Thank you. I’ve always had a problem soldering jump rings and have even thought of using a soldering iron but this is perfect. I shall have a practice.
Take care. X
Can you tell me what torch you are using? TY for the video
Great tutorial Andrew, thanks!
the cut at the exact moment it soldered .. 8:50 🥰told me ..... there was some fiddling. there NEVER isn't fiddling. technique explained well
Wonderful tip! (no pun intended, honestly) thank you for sharing such detailed shots from various angles and explaining so clearly as per usual. Much appreciation from Calif. ✨👍🌻✌✨
How about soldering several pieces on a sheet in an oven?
Another excellent idea!!
Great tip! Having destroyed some snake chain to which I was soldering end caps, I shall certainly be using this. Many thanks!
I keep burning through my 999 fine silver bezels. Maybe I can try this method!?!
Great you are the greatest ❤❤❤
Andrew I saw a great little tip for something similar, if u had a little sardine tin, or small bowl with a shallow amount of water. The jewler placed the ring in a third hand, joint facing up and the 3rd hand was hiding the stone beneath the water. He proceeded to solder the ring and the water kept the stones nice an cool.. Would love to hear what your thoughts are on this kind of method.. I know it's no good for small chain links like in your video but for some applications I thought it was a very handy little idea
I was perusing the comments when I saw yours. I've wondered how to manage when stones are involved. This method seems really clever. I'm brand new and inexperienced with soldering so I really don't know but I will definitely keep your method in mind as I'm learning. Thank you for sharing that tidbit of info! 🙂
@@tammygurl64 no worries. I'm still learning myself a Great page for tips like that is "metalsmith society" on Instagram.. They are treat, everyone shares great tips there daily..! There's also a gel Andrew uses, u cover the stone part of a ring with a thick layer of it and it can withstand alot of heat.. That's prob the safest way. Another Great method I saw was cutting a potato in half and sticking the stone side of a RIng into the potato and the solder away on the exposed side. It offers a great heat barrier too Tammy. Being Irish that's handy for me as potato is our national food almost 😂 hope these gave u some more food for thought 😉
@@Ken_Dalton Cool. Thanks! The potato thing is interesting. 👍 So you're Irish... That's cool. I love the accent! 😀 I've always wanted to visit Ireland. I almost did when I was visiting Scotland but nobody wanted to go with me. My ancestors are from Scotland, Ireland, and Wales. I loved staying in Scotland for a couple months. It was like another world. Best holiday ever! Thanks for the tips. I'll check out the sites. I'm in the research phase of soldering. I probably won't buy my tools and torch for another month. I make and sell wire wrap jewelry on a small scale just to fund my hobbies and I've been slacking lately. LOL! Anyway, thanks again! Cheers! 🙂
We have a little stainless steel jeweler's bench cup tool, with a nub that holds tweezers. We fill it with water, submerge the piece, and solder away. Works great!
Thoughts on the jewelry spot welders instead of using traditional methods?
Hi Andrew,
I’ve got a Platinum jump ring. Can I use gold solder on it.
Thanks
All I can say is : 'Wow, that demonstration is incredible!". I have melted my soldering sticks before.... I suppose it is the best to clean them as you demonstrated. I did not think it cold be possible for me to melt and deform my soldering picks.? Should I just continue to replace them? Have you done this before? I was taught how to pick up the soldering with the stick, also with the powder. This will then indicate the heat ready to solder.
I have been watching your videos and I have been successfully accomplishing the techniques you teach. Thank you for this one, I had almost given up on soldering a jump ring or chain.
hello Andrew. i have a question. do you know about solder powder for chain soldering? the kind of chain wich is making for machine
Just brilliant! Thank you!
Wow... We always learn something new. Those little tips are so important. Thank you Professor Berry for always be here🤗.
Professor? 😮
Is this how I can solder a cork onto a rod end. IE putting a float on a rod for a gas gauge (old airplane ) ?
Hi, we are facing a greenish solder surface in our jewelry products. Can you please give me a solution to remove the greenish look on the surface?
Great technique! Love it, and intend to use it, right now!
Excellent tutorial.Thanks for sharing .
Have you ever used "Graphite Rod" to lay the chain on then solder the joint? Does it work?
Thank you so much for sharing your experience.
I like your video’s I love that trick you showed us can you use a soldering iron to do the same thing?
This is a very simple idea and easy method to practise, thank you for showing it to us. Along with the "soldering pick" are there any "soldering irons" that could be used in the same way?
I wondered the same. Seems like it would work the same.
No. A soldering iron does not get hot enough to melt hard solder
i not untrusting your languege but your job is wery butifuel❤❤❤
That was fascinating. And useful.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.MR you made my day.
Hi there, love your videos!!
I was hoping you could answer a question for me? I am making an 18ct yellow gold ring with silver/copper alloy. I was going to get 18ct yellow gold solder but was afraid the color wouldn’t match up nicely but then thought of cutting a thin piece of extra gold I cut off this piece to use to solder the joint, would this work? If it’s much smaller, would it melt before melting the actual ring and successfully solder the ring ? I also thought it would help with purity! I didn’t want to try fusing as I am not very good and would definitely mess up the ring by doing that 😅 thank you so much in advance!!
If so, could I use this same technique in your video on the gold ring?
What kind of torch do you use
What is Safety Pickle? Lovely Tip Mr. Berry, Thank you!
Pickle is a solution, usually of sulphuric acid and water, into which you place a soldered piece to remove the firescale (blackening). Available from jewellery suppliers.
+Rebecca Parker it is a safe solution to sulphuric acid. Sodium bisulphate mixed with water. It is a lot safer than acid
Agh, yes, i use PH Down and water ;). Same thing i think
Hi there, I know you get a lot of questions, I love watching your videos they are helping so much. i'd love to know how I can solder a fired metal clay disk to a sterling silver ring base I am so baffled, so many saying different things and its costly experimenting so I'd like to get it right first time lol :)
Thank you :) 🇫🇷
Would that work for putting solder on a small dot to prep it for sweat soldering? Like 1-2mm diameter or less?
Barbara Good question!!!
Great instruction. I’ll definitely put this in my “tool kit.” Question: When you talk about @safety pickle,” what do you mean? Name/brand?
This was EXACTLY what I was looking for. THANK YOU!
Another of your down-to-earth fixes of something that has aggravated me for a long time... and here I am with all my picks and never thought of using one of them! Thank you so much, Andrew!
Thank you soo much - my days of melting chains trying to add a light jump ring are over…subject to practice 😅❤
Hello Andrew i hope you and your loved ones are well? I have a problem with soldering small links close to gemstones and pearls,i put them in water and have the link on a pick but i'm not having much success,i like to use small gemstones in clusters which are nice and then i add that link to the bracelet ring,any advice would be much appreciated, thank you Regards Andrea Taylor
Wow! Thank you, so much! What a helpful video. Now, will you please do a video showing all of the ways to do indirect soldering? Also, could you please do a video on how to solder gallery wire without melting it? That would be immensely helpful!!
Andrew,i have a question about hollowed chains.,in my country hollowed chains is flooded everywhere., do you have another techniques to solder hollowed chains?
would a variable temp soldering iron with a fine tip do the same thing?
+Andy Davies I doubt it. It won’t get hot enough to melt the solder
Brilliant! Thank you for sharing this wisdom!😁😁
Cool auch ein Probläm so feine Sachen
hi Andrew i hope i am not to late, i have tried cooksongold and betts metals looking for hard silver solder wire the only type they carry easy and extra easy, i have came across some but in no great lengths 3/4 feet at most i know that is a lot but i try to use hard solder in most of my work, can you suggest any other outlet please, another spot on grate video, how is the engraving going these days are you still using a death grip on that had piece haha.
Hello Andrew thank you for this video, could you please tell why you must put flux on the pick too?
Hi Andrew! I am a new subscriber to your videos. Is there a way to solder a delicate necklace chain (around 1mm in size) to a small charm (about 4mm in size)? Thank you for sharing your talent and knowledge with all of us! These are all great videos!!
thank you! this will be perfect especially for necklaces where the strand is already chock full of beads
Update ! I just tried this with the bezel wire and it worked like a charm 👍🥳 Cheers Andrew.
Thanks, I am looking forward watching your tutorial
thats why i love this channel very much. you can learn a lot thànks for sharing sir.
Thank you Andrew. Great solution to a tricky soldering situation. Never seen this technique demonstrated by anyone else. Now my problems rather than my fine jump rings will melt away.
Excellent ! Thanks for posting this instruction!
This video was a lifesaver. Excellent tip for small chains
Thank you
can gold filled sheet be soldered to silver sheet item? Thank you!
Perfect for sterling jump rings. Thanks!
I am so glad I found this video
Thank you for taking the time to do this
explained we Andrew. love the technique. thank you
Hi Andrew, love your great videos. Do you ever use anything like Orion's pulse welder. Would love to know the pros or cons of welding vs. soldering.
Thanks
James Truesdale
Theclockworks
Yes, we have a Lampert PUK welder and use it every day. We love it.
I am really enjoying this channel. Thank you.
Thank you thank you!!! Great teacher you are👍👍👍
awesome!
Nice
Great trick will try re links now thank uuuu
Thank you Andrew. Great lesson for me today, I've turned thise repairs down in the past. I have some broken chains. Time to get practicing... I have looked and cant find a video of making and drawing wire. I'm having a few problems. Thank you ...
Glad to hear. Take a look at a mini series I did a few weeks back. This film will help
Rolling Down and Drawing Silver Wire - Turn Square Wire Into Round Wire ruclips.net/video/9mTc1BUI1t0/видео.html
A very nice and informative presentation indeed. Thank you for that. I am however missing an important aspect of why some tools are more or less suited for heat transfer. That is how good different metals are at transferring heat, their thermal resistance. My guess is that your third hand is made of iron (steel), which does not transfer heat very well at all. The tip of a soldering iron however is usually made of copper which has a low thermal resistance.
I know this comment is over a year old but……what on earth has a soldering iron got to do with anything? A jeweller would never use a soldering iron, nor can a soldering iron reach the temperatures needed to make silver solder flow.
Always good to see different techniques
Thanks for your information.
Wonderful. Thank you.
Please could you cover how to solder a jump ring with clasp onto a snake chain. 🙏 I usually solder a pit of the chain by accident.
+Helen why not use this technique?
Great thanks. I will have a go 🤞
Wonderful instruction!
You taught me this. Thanks!
Great tutorial, thank you so much for sharing! I spent all day yesterday practicing on tiny jumprings, and sure wish I'd seen this first. Question, would this also work with a tungsten soldering pick? Or does it need to be titanium? Thanks in advance!
Any sort of soldering pick will work
Andrew Berry, thank you so much! I’m addicted to your videos, they are so helpful! Going to go practice more jumprings right now!
Thank you! That was so cool!
Super thank you
Thank you Andrew
Cool thank you.
why not 1080p
Whats the name or model of those scissor type, bypassing wire cutters?
I think they were just fine tipped shears
@@Atthebench cool, thanks for the reply. I guess I'll stick with my electrician's scissors. I may have asked this on another of your videos, but what's the focal length of your visor magnifier things..also, what's their power? Btw, thanks for the video on pick soldering. I'm only working with copper wire making chains for my dogs using sil phos 15 rod and brazing them like a plumber, using the rod like a wand, angling everything so the overflowing molten rod won't fuse the links together, then dremeling everything back down to bare copper after.. idk how many pounds of rod I've wasted over the couple years since I started tinkering around with this copper wire.. I wish I would have found your channel long ago. What a wealth of knowledge. Thank you for sharing it!
Thanks for the lessons!
Hi Andrew we solder two types or purposes, but they are electronics and copper piping, irons and torches or as you share blow lamps, so this is interesting to see what occurs for jewelry and working with wearable pieces are on our coming work radar so this video is very helpful to teach us. Lance & Patrick.