My best was dropping a swamp, casting Dark Ritual, casting Cabal Therapy targeting myself and naming Nicol Bolas, discarding Nicol Bolas, then using Goryo's Vengeance to animate him and swing on turn 1. My opponent was sad.
I'm a little surprised cards like Mirrari's Wake, Anurid Brushhopper, Phantom Centaur and Nishoba didn't make the list. They were pretty hot back in the day.
They definitely were. And they all have points. If I made a top 10 in like 2010 or even 2015 would all be here, but their lack of long term success made it hard for them to make it.
Shout out to my main man Phantom Nishoba as well who also didn't make the list. The Nishoba I feel has become a bit of a sleeper hit since it ended up becoming pretty much the best creature to cheat out in the unofficial Premodern format (sees play in Oath decks, Reanimator, ramp decks, some Show and Tell variants...)
@@marpj6138 maybe wizards planned it as an enchantment block at first (@NizzahonMagic said something like that in some other video if i'm not wrong), but the block was always sold and promoted as an artifact block (the "new antiquities") during its era. Yes, there was no internet at that time... so, access to information was hard, specially in 🇧🇷... But from people and magazines, never saw any reference of Urza block being an enchantment focused block during the old days 🤔
Another note about the wish cycle is that in its time they could get cards from the Exile Zone also because that zone didn’t exist back then. Cards used to get “removed from the game” therefore making them cards that are outside the game. It’s weird that Karn, the Great Creator can wish from either exile or your sideboard, but they haven’t made the wishes work like that.
Cunning Wish was also better in its time in standard because you could use it to get stuff from exile. So one thing Mirari’s Wake decks would do is to use the Mirari to get a card from your sideboard and previously exiled copies of Cunning Wish letting you reuse them forever. A classic play pattern at the time was also casting flashback on moment’s peace or krosan reclamation and then grabbing them back along with an exiled cunning wish to never deck yourself and fog indefinitely. That rule changed at some point which made it slightly less powerful.
Burning wish could grab itself from exile too at that time (but no deck that I remembered used that trick 🤔) In general all wishes were better at that time 😉
@@mantissaPuc The main reason it didn't come up was probably because while cunning wish was mostly used to do things to stall out the game when you grabbed something with Burning Wish you were generally winning then and there.
When they were originally printed, the wishes actually went into your sideboard upon resolving that's why you could cunning wish + mirari as a loop. Exile didn't actually exist at the time.
I used to play a green/white Anurid Brushhopper deck and my friends hated it. 3 mana 3/4 was a big deal back then + the ability to protect it against removal was just gold. Brushhopper + Armadillo Cloak or rancor or a glory in the graveyard. or some phantom creatures with anthem effects felt pretty good.
I really love how wacky MTG during the Otaria cycle was. Also my guess for number 1 is gonna be Burning Wish, that thing is pretty strong in Legacy TES/ANT
Damn I forgot that Cabal Therapy was from Judgement. I always thought it was from Odyssey itself :/ At least Burning Wish was number 2 (I forgot it was banned for a few years tho)
Urza Block, Odyssey, Judgment, etc. absolutely one of the nuttiest and creative eras of MtG. Such fun designs and artwork, my favorite group of MtG sets.
A Judgment deck ( Judgement Painflow) was my very first mtg product ever. Way back then when i was a kid....Too bad that mtg is way expensive here in brazil and only the upper class people have this hobby around here.
If you play competitive formats, that might be true. You can play Commander for cheap and most cEDH players don't care about playing against proxied decks.
Fun bit of trivia about cabal therapy: they had been trying for years to make a "go fish" card but couldn't find a way to make it work until they created flashback
Here's a random idea: If you made a constructed deck from each set which set would be the strongest (no limitations meaning you could play 4 black lotus or moxen etc)?
With literally no limitations, I think the only possible winners are Alpha or Urza's Saga. But if you ban or restrict the obviously broken cards, then you can probably add Affinity from Mirrodin, Infect from Scars of Mirrodin, and both Vehicles and Energy from Kaladesh.
A few surprises on here for me. When i first saw the video i had basically all the cards that didnt get the majority of thier points in pauper and 3 other cards. Wake, phantom centaur, and solitary confinement. The wake makes sense because it was only really played in combo, centaur never really made the cut in UG madness or the other beatdown cards of the time. The confinement was the biggest suprise for me because I thought it saw a ton of play in enchantess decks in multiple formats.
I made the finals of a Type 2 tournament featuring Prismatic Strands, Anger, and Browbeat. It was a RW Madness deck that featured mostly commons. Bulldozed everyone until I came up against creatureless mono black
Lol I was about to start digging Ray of Revelation out of my bulk...I Know I have several... But I thought to go ahead and double-check the price. It's about 25¢, not $3.99. This is from the Card Kingdom site.
Ray Of Revelation was a prime example of how I didnt understand what a good card was back in the day. I have two of them (I've been playing since 7th edition) and I didn't even consider them until a few years ago :')
@@peterMolodecki In a radically declining culture of saturated overstimulation, I suppose I can't fault you too much for readily attributing a lack of patience to my posting of a time stamp, especially on such a relatively inconsequential video. Rest assured, it is not that I am impatient; it's because that 2 minutes is an inefficient use of my time (I know Nizzahon repeats himself for the sake of new players - I'm not knocking that). I listen to new introduction on x2 speed to make sure I'm not missing anything, then if there's nothing of personal interest, I put a time stamp for others like myself. If nobody sees or cares for it, that's alright by me. But it'll be there for anyone who might. :)
Ahhhh Judgement. What an absolutely *epic* set. I mean, with a name like that, it can't possibly not have something to do with a gigantic apocalypse. Right? I actually don't know much about this era of Magic, so please tell me it has something to do with a gigantic mega-apocalypse. Also, please bring me "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)", or I will be forced to cast my judgement on you!
Apocalypse was the last set of the block prior to the block Judgment was in. The whole block Judgment was in was kind of the aftermath of the Apocalypse, which was one of those Phyrexian invasions of which there were many.
Judgment follows the story of Kamahl, who, in keeping truth to his promise made to a dying Chainer, keeps the Mirari safe from others and himself. Several characters, including Laquatus and Eesha, attempt to obtain the potent orb for themselves and Kamahl's sister and mentor, Jeska and Balthor, endeavor to separate the Mirari from Kamahl for fear of the corrupting influence that the orb has on Kamahl. Ultimately, after substantial politics and war, the influence of the Mirari on individuals is diminished. A majority of the characters are killed, and the Mirari, attached to Kamahl's sword, is implanted through the corpse of Laquatus and into the Krosan Forest, thereby channeling the powerful magic into the land and allowing both the fauna and flora to grow larger and wilder.
@@SerathDarklandsit’s not because they have flashback, Anger and Wonder have the tombstone but no flashback. I don’t know why they have the tombstones either and I want to know!
@@bunii_1961 Okay, so the MTG wiki says that it's just to indicate cards that have an effect when in the graveyard, so that they stand out and can be easily identified.
Sort of. Anger and Wonder are part of an uncommon cycle. Genesis and Glory are the only two rare incarnations. Which makes sense for the Green-White set.
Only in the early years (including all Odyssey block standard time). At some point they changed the wishes rules to only grab cards from sideboards. If i'm remembering correctly, the change was made together with the creation of the "exile" term/zone (before that card said "out of the game" or "remove from the game" instead)
@@JasonOshinko nowadays. But In the old days there was no exile zone. Just "outside the game". Look at the old text of cards like Necropotence or Swords to plowshares 😉
I didn't mention Filth because I only wanted to point that the Green and White ones not making the list is funny because of the set's focus. Filth not making it is right on point. It's $6.99 on Card Kingdom, and it gets there because it's almost never been reprinted and is moderately played in Commander (combos well with Urborg).
My best cabal therapy was in legacy, named blindly Lord of Atlantis against a friend, he discarded 3 copies.
My best was dropping a swamp, casting Dark Ritual, casting Cabal Therapy targeting myself and naming Nicol Bolas, discarding Nicol Bolas, then using Goryo's Vengeance to animate him and swing on turn 1. My opponent was sad.
Such a good time for me, the early 2000s, the Odyssey/Onslaught Standard. Surprised Mirari's Wake or the Phantom creatures didn't make the list.
I'm a little surprised cards like Mirrari's Wake, Anurid Brushhopper, Phantom Centaur and Nishoba didn't make the list. They were pretty hot back in the day.
They definitely were. And they all have points. If I made a top 10 in like 2010 or even 2015 would all be here, but their lack of long term success made it hard for them to make it.
@@NizzahonMagic How many points does Wake currently have? When i saw wishes on #2 i was certain it would be #1. This list was very surprising.
@@blabik It has 17 points.
He didn't make the list, but I still got to give a shout out to my boy Phantom Centaur. Won me so many games against my friends.
Seriously. That dude put in work.
With an elephant guide to make it feel unkillable.
Shout out to my main man Phantom Nishoba as well who also didn't make the list. The Nishoba I feel has become a bit of a sleeper hit since it ended up becoming pretty much the best creature to cheat out in the unofficial Premodern format (sees play in Oath decks, Reanimator, ramp decks, some Show and Tell variants...)
So underrated. Always one of my first pick if I drafted
Wow, the sheer irony of that #1. That's like if the strongest card from an enchantment-focused set was an artifact... wait.
Which one is that?
What set? (Can't remember either 🤔🤔)
Urzas block @@mantissaPuc
Urza's block, which is know today as the artifact cycle, was mean to be an enchantment block
@@marpj6138 maybe wizards planned it as an enchantment block at first (@NizzahonMagic said something like that in some other video if i'm not wrong), but the block was always sold and promoted as an artifact block (the "new antiquities") during its era.
Yes, there was no internet at that time... so, access to information was hard, specially in 🇧🇷...
But from people and magazines, never saw any reference of Urza block being an enchantment focused block during the old days 🤔
Another note about the wish cycle is that in its time they could get cards from the Exile Zone also because that zone didn’t exist back then. Cards used to get “removed from the game” therefore making them cards that are outside the game. It’s weird that Karn, the Great Creator can wish from either exile or your sideboard, but they haven’t made the wishes work like that.
Cunning Wish was also better in its time in standard because you could use it to get stuff from exile. So one thing Mirari’s Wake decks would do is to use the Mirari to get a card from your sideboard and previously exiled copies of Cunning Wish letting you reuse them forever.
A classic play pattern at the time was also casting flashback on moment’s peace or krosan reclamation and then grabbing them back along with an exiled cunning wish to never deck yourself and fog indefinitely.
That rule changed at some point which made it slightly less powerful.
Glad to see someone remember that Wish looping was a thing.
Burning wish could grab itself from exile too at that time (but no deck that I remembered used that trick 🤔)
In general all wishes were better at that time 😉
@@mantissaPuc The main reason it didn't come up was probably because while cunning wish was mostly used to do things to stall out the game when you grabbed something with Burning Wish you were generally winning then and there.
When they were originally printed, the wishes actually went into your sideboard upon resolving that's why you could cunning wish + mirari as a loop.
Exile didn't actually exist at the time.
Not a great deck, but I had a lot of fun once getting three basking rootwallas in play off my own cabal therapy turn one.
That's basically what Bazaar of Baghdad decks in Vintage do, so that's pretty sweet!
Genesis was a staple of my casual decks playing after school.
The Odyssée block is my favorite of all Magic's block 😊😺
I used to play a green/white Anurid Brushhopper deck and my friends hated it. 3 mana 3/4 was a big deal back then + the ability to protect it against removal was just gold. Brushhopper + Armadillo Cloak or rancor or a glory in the graveyard. or some phantom creatures with anthem effects felt pretty good.
That John Avon art on Anger is some of my favorite in the entire game 😂 it’s just so perfect
I really love how wacky MTG during the Otaria cycle was.
Also my guess for number 1 is gonna be Burning Wish, that thing is pretty strong in Legacy TES/ANT
Damn I forgot that Cabal Therapy was from Judgement. I always thought it was from Odyssey itself :/
At least Burning Wish was number 2 (I forgot it was banned for a few years tho)
Nice list I was not tuned in to prismatic strands, but I think I might add it to my white worship pre-modern deck
Urza Block, Odyssey, Judgment, etc. absolutely one of the nuttiest and creative eras of MtG. Such fun designs and artwork, my favorite group of MtG sets.
Like the og art for Anger.
So tiny, so angry
A Judgment deck ( Judgement Painflow) was my very first mtg product ever. Way back then when i was a kid....Too bad that mtg is way expensive here in brazil and only the upper class people have this hobby around here.
If you play competitive formats, that might be true. You can play Commander for cheap and most cEDH players don't care about playing against proxied decks.
Me too, still have an affection for nantuko.
WotC has gone on record and said that as long as you're not playing in a sanctioned tournament you're allowed to proxy. Have fun!
Fun bit of trivia about cabal therapy: they had been trying for years to make a "go fish" card but couldn't find a way to make it work until they created flashback
Here's a random idea: If you made a constructed deck from each set which set would be the strongest (no limitations meaning you could play 4 black lotus or moxen etc)?
With literally no limitations, I think the only possible winners are Alpha or Urza's Saga. But if you ban or restrict the obviously broken cards, then you can probably add Affinity from Mirrodin, Infect from Scars of Mirrodin, and both Vehicles and Energy from Kaladesh.
@@davidlundquist1979 True, I would probably just load up a deck with fast mana then use fireball turn 1
The newest set out when I started playing.
A few surprises on here for me. When i first saw the video i had basically all the cards that didnt get the majority of thier points in pauper and 3 other cards. Wake, phantom centaur, and solitary confinement. The wake makes sense because it was only really played in combo, centaur never really made the cut in UG madness or the other beatdown cards of the time. The confinement was the biggest suprise for me because I thought it saw a ton of play in enchantess decks in multiple formats.
Nizza Top 10 set video! Let’s go!
I made the finals of a Type 2 tournament featuring Prismatic Strands, Anger, and Browbeat. It was a RW Madness deck that featured mostly commons. Bulldozed everyone until I came up against creatureless mono black
Lol I was about to start digging Ray of Revelation out of my bulk...I Know I have several... But I thought to go ahead and double-check the price. It's about 25¢, not $3.99. This is from the Card Kingdom site.
Now you just need to do what Odyssey to complete the block!
Ray Of Revelation was a prime example of how I didnt understand what a good card was back in the day. I have two of them (I've been playing since 7th edition) and I didn't even consider them until a few years ago :')
Not about the cards or Magic, but this hoodie really suits you, looking good
Out of curiosity do you know the stats for Worldgorger Dragon?
2:28 for the list
Bro it's two minutes. TWO minutes lmfao. Shorts has completely broken us.
@@peterMolodecki In a radically declining culture of saturated overstimulation, I suppose I can't fault you too much for readily attributing a lack of patience to my posting of a time stamp, especially on such a relatively inconsequential video.
Rest assured, it is not that I am impatient; it's because that 2 minutes is an inefficient use of my time (I know Nizzahon repeats himself for the sake of new players - I'm not knocking that).
I listen to new introduction on x2 speed to make sure I'm not missing anything, then if there's nothing of personal interest, I put a time stamp for others like myself. If nobody sees or cares for it, that's alright by me. But it'll be there for anyone who might. :)
Ahhhh Judgement. What an absolutely *epic* set. I mean, with a name like that, it can't possibly not have something to do with a gigantic apocalypse. Right? I actually don't know much about this era of Magic, so please tell me it has something to do with a gigantic mega-apocalypse. Also, please bring me "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)", or I will be forced to cast my judgement on you!
Apocalypse was the last set of the block prior to the block Judgment was in. The whole block Judgment was in was kind of the aftermath of the Apocalypse, which was one of those Phyrexian invasions of which there were many.
@matthewgagnon9426 So what actually happens in Judgement?
Judgment follows the story of Kamahl, who, in keeping truth to his promise made to a dying Chainer, keeps the Mirari safe from others and himself. Several characters, including Laquatus and Eesha, attempt to obtain the potent orb for themselves and Kamahl's sister and mentor, Jeska and Balthor, endeavor to separate the Mirari from Kamahl for fear of the corrupting influence that the orb has on Kamahl.
Ultimately, after substantial politics and war, the influence of the Mirari on individuals is diminished. A majority of the characters are killed, and the Mirari, attached to Kamahl's sword, is implanted through the corpse of Laquatus and into the Krosan Forest, thereby channeling the powerful magic into the land and allowing both the fauna and flora to grow larger and wilder.
ran cabal therapy a lot with duress good times
I really like Genesis Anger wonder brawn incarnation cards are interesting cards
Such great memories!
Judgement was the set that had just released when I first started playing MTG. True number 1 will always be Crush of Wurms 😂
Why do some of these cards have a tombstone icon to the left of their names? I've seen it before, but never knew what that was.
It is because they have flashback.
@@JopR84 That's all there is to it? Neat, thanks! Been wondering about that for a while now.
@@SerathDarklandsit’s not because they have flashback, Anger and Wonder have the tombstone but no flashback. I don’t know why they have the tombstones either and I want to know!
@@bunii_1961 Okay, so the MTG wiki says that it's just to indicate cards that have an effect when in the graveyard, so that they stand out and can be easily identified.
It's actually because they do something in the graveyard, not just flashback.
Its a shame that some of the iconic cards like Mirarai's Wake didn't make this list.
@NizzahonMagic you forgot Wonder, Anger and Wishes "points data details" 😮
I don't know why, but I just like Riftstone Portal, I wish the cycle was more complete
It is a pretty cool design.
If I looked like Anger, I would be angry too.
Were Genesis, Anger, and Wonder part of the same cycle?
Sort of. Anger and Wonder are part of an uncommon cycle. Genesis and Glory are the only two rare incarnations. Which makes sense for the Green-White set.
@NizzahonMagic thanks for the explanation!
Can wishes get a card from exile?
Only in the early years (including all Odyssey block standard time). At some point they changed the wishes rules to only grab cards from sideboards.
If i'm remembering correctly, the change was made together with the creation of the "exile" term/zone (before that card said "out of the game" or "remove from the game" instead)
No. Exile is a zone in the game, it is not "outside the game".
@@JasonOshinko nowadays. But In the old days there was no exile zone. Just "outside the game". Look at the old text of cards like Necropotence or Swords to plowshares 😉
As I always say, GW is fun but not competitive enough, too fair and linear.
That said, I love this set, to this day Mirari's Wake is my favorite card.
anger's art is so creepy
I was expecting to see Moment's Peace
Well, it's not in Judgment. So...
*facepalm* Odyssey
Stifle? Decree of Justice?
You're confusing Judgment with Scourge.
Why didn't you mention Filth? Amd why is it worth 10 bucks?
I didn't mention Filth because I only wanted to point that the Green and White ones not making the list is funny because of the set's focus.
Filth not making it is right on point.
It's $6.99 on Card Kingdom, and it gets there because it's almost never been reprinted and is moderately played in Commander (combos well with Urborg).
@NizzahonMagic thanks for the answer
Top 10 cards that cannot be countered or grants the ability of another spell/ability from being countered.
nobody plays pauper. Everyone just wants singles for Commander
No Worldgorger Dragon?!?
Back when Color Pie had a purpose...
What are you on about? There is literally a Council of Colors to maintain the color pie balance.
Word.
pog