The R50 measures more data points than the GC3/ BLP. And unlike the BLP, it doesn’t require $500/yr to access the most basic of software functionality.
20:15 Chiming in on the simulator golf. I live in Utah where we have cold winters and we have trackman simulators ALL OVER. I wanted to see how accurate my trackman handicap index would be compared to my USGA GHIN by end of season using NEXT TOUR settings. My USGA GHIN ended at +1.9 and my Trackman handicap was +1.8 by end of season. I was shooting nearly identical scores at any given time. Don't underestimate simulator golf.
A plug and play that provides accurate swing path/club face and some relatively good numbers for carry/total.... and i'd immediately buy it. One of the best things that has changed my game is simply just knowing my swing path and if i and shutting or opening the face. If those are accurate - ALL IN.
23:44 I completely understand your doubts on the putting in the sim. I was there for a few years too... until I tried "manual aimed" setting that we do on the NEXT Tour. Not only is it extremely accurate, it will GREATLY improve your putting.
if i didn't have a couple of teenagers at home trying to get through school and college, i'd absolutely buy me one of these Garmin R50's. The savings in not having to have a subscription alone is attractive, not to mention plug and play to a projector if that's what you want.
Innovation is amazing today! Great products coming out. Improving your swing seems to be the main thing but having fun doing it is cool too! Put all of these ideas into a VR compact goggle and I might just be putting on a green.
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I think indoor/home golf set-ups are a great way to practice and work on things. I have seen improvement in myself even with my dodgy MLM2 Pro and net at my place. They're only going to get better, and I would not be surprised if within the next decade a system that can do all it needs to will be affordable for most people.
Indoor is a just an extension of the electronic gaming industry. First it was a tool to practice, then a tool to coach, then a toy to play with your buddies. It has done wonders for keeping our golf courses bar and restaurant busy. Bar especially during the late fall and winter. The question you danced around is will it last, will it grow. Even with a large putting green and your ball placed by a laser marker, it’s the same putting surface. This is what Tiger and Rory want you to buy into as some sort of professional golfing experience. For me, it’s like what Meta tried to do with its virtual world. I guess if you never go outside, it’s a great way to fake playing and getting good against others hanging around their garages. I’m not against it, just wonder what it is beyond an hours entertainment. My wife and I go play an hour, some fantastic course with an 8 or 12’ gimmie circle, then have dinner to support our club and go home. It’s actually pretty boring golf. But I’m older, a smart phone is a tool, not a necessity. Younger players have not known a time when they were not pixelated stimulated. I suppose they will love this and grow this into its own sport, with its own rules and players hopefully leaving real golfers with better tee times. Oh, from the looks of it, I think Garmin hit a hole in one.
I honestly think your perception of lower cost models and their accuracy is not entirely accurate. I have the Garmin R10 with a decent sized room (12' of space ball to screen), use RCT balls, and always calibrate the device before use. The only data which is questionable is the occasional misread on spin. Occasionally it gives you a 7 iron at 3,000 spin and it becomes a flyer and goes 15-20 yards long...but guess what, you get flyers in real golf too!!! And these misreads are few and far between (1 out of 50) I took my R10 and iPad to my driver fitting, which was done on a GC quad. Total distance was within 1-3% either side of baseline, and when we looked at averages of 10 shot segments, the data was very very close. Spin on R10 was a couple hundred higher (driver), but ball speed, club head speed were bang on accurate. I am a 1 hdcp who hits 3,000-4,000 balls a month, so know my game and distances very well, the R10 is exactly what i see on the course as far as distance. I think some devices need some environmental options to succeed such as distance to screen, and RCT balls. I could not be happier with the R10. I also have a buddy with a Trackman, and he like the R10 just as much as his Trackman...we alternate garages for drinking sessions.
The R50 measures more data points than the GC3/ BLP. And unlike the BLP, it doesn’t require $500/yr to access the most basic of software functionality.
20:15 Chiming in on the simulator golf. I live in Utah where we have cold winters and we have trackman simulators ALL OVER. I wanted to see how accurate my trackman handicap index would be compared to my USGA GHIN by end of season using NEXT TOUR settings. My USGA GHIN ended at +1.9 and my Trackman handicap was +1.8 by end of season. I was shooting nearly identical scores at any given time. Don't underestimate simulator golf.
A plug and play that provides accurate swing path/club face and some relatively good numbers for carry/total.... and i'd immediately buy it. One of the best things that has changed my game is simply just knowing my swing path and if i and shutting or opening the face. If those are accurate - ALL IN.
23:44 I completely understand your doubts on the putting in the sim. I was there for a few years too... until I tried "manual aimed" setting that we do on the NEXT Tour. Not only is it extremely accurate, it will GREATLY improve your putting.
if i didn't have a couple of teenagers at home trying to get through school and college, i'd absolutely buy me one of these Garmin R50's. The savings in not having to have a subscription alone is attractive, not to mention plug and play to a projector if that's what you want.
Continental also makes a lot of electronics for the auto industry.
Innovation is amazing today! Great products coming out. Improving your swing seems to be the main thing but having fun doing it is cool too! Put all of these ideas into a VR compact goggle and I might just be putting on a green.
21:25 during the last three years I've played equal amounts of indoor to outdoor golf. I've only had a hole-in-one outside. NEVER in a sim.
Would love a comparison of Ball.On and Salted Insoles.
To be faaaaaaaair Letterkenny references get a up vote from me.
This can do a match with 2 or more players playing in sequence and keep track of everyone's score?
Love your content guys and this was a great discussion, but do your online shopping or gaming some other time. Click. Click. Click. Scroll scroll scroll, all through the audio.
Sim hole 1 ? - might as well celebrate a high score in Pac-Man
Tony is making me laugh a lot on this episode lol
I wouldn’t mind having a sim at my house but I doubt I’ll watch any sim golf on tv
Tony - where did you get your cap? Need to pick one up man!
Rapsodo and Square to pull you in and hold you over while you work towards the R50
I think indoor/home golf set-ups are a great way to practice and work on things. I have seen improvement in myself even with my dodgy MLM2 Pro and net at my place. They're only going to get better, and I would not be surprised if within the next decade a system that can do all it needs to will be affordable for most people.
When will this episode be uploaded to Apple Podcasts?
As greens fees continue to rise and courses stay packed, there is definitely a strong case to invest in a golf simulator set up.
Indoor is a just an extension of the electronic gaming industry. First it was a tool to practice, then a tool to coach, then a toy to play with your buddies. It has done wonders for keeping our golf courses bar and restaurant busy. Bar especially during the late fall and winter. The question you danced around is will it last, will it grow. Even with a large putting green and your ball placed by a laser marker, it’s the same putting surface. This is what Tiger and Rory want you to buy into as some sort of professional golfing experience.
For me, it’s like what Meta tried to do with its virtual world. I guess if you never go outside, it’s a great way to fake playing and getting good against others hanging around their garages. I’m not against it, just wonder what it is beyond an hours entertainment. My wife and I go play an hour, some fantastic course with an 8 or 12’ gimmie circle, then have dinner to support our club and go home. It’s actually pretty boring golf. But I’m older, a smart phone is a tool, not a necessity. Younger players have not known a time when they were not pixelated stimulated. I suppose they will love this and grow this into its own sport, with its own rules and players hopefully leaving real golfers with better tee times.
Oh, from the looks of it, I think Garmin hit a hole in one.
I honestly think your perception of lower cost models and their accuracy is not entirely accurate.
I have the Garmin R10 with a decent sized room (12' of space ball to screen), use RCT balls, and always calibrate the device before use. The only data which is questionable is the occasional misread on spin. Occasionally it gives you a 7 iron at 3,000 spin and it becomes a flyer and goes 15-20 yards long...but guess what, you get flyers in real golf too!!! And these misreads are few and far between (1 out of 50)
I took my R10 and iPad to my driver fitting, which was done on a GC quad. Total distance was within 1-3% either side of baseline, and when we looked at averages of 10 shot segments, the data was very very close. Spin on R10 was a couple hundred higher (driver), but ball speed, club head speed were bang on accurate.
I am a 1 hdcp who hits 3,000-4,000 balls a month, so know my game and distances very well, the R10 is exactly what i see on the course as far as distance.
I think some devices need some environmental options to succeed such as distance to screen, and RCT balls. I could not be happier with the R10. I also have a buddy with a Trackman, and he like the R10 just as much as his Trackman...we alternate garages for drinking sessions.
Family, friends, football, fun, friskyness.
Did Chris’ wife only have to tell him once? Don’t have to tell a guy with two black eyes, he’s already been told twice.
Nice old school Bronco hat.
Thanks, man!
Simulator golf is not really golf, it's a diversion between rounds.
If it's not accurate it's nothing more than a fun simulator. It would be useless for analysing your swing flaws
I have a R10. It's a piece of crap. Can't get it to pick up shots. It's useless
What would you buy if you decided to buy something else? I want something to practice with, but not sure what to use.
Still too expensive! Someone will burst the sim bubble and give us something the common man can afford! But thanks
Lots people worse at simulator golf. Indoor swing syndrome is real and affects a lot of people.
Are you playing CandyCrush while doing this podcast ?
STOP MOUSE CLICKING FRANTICALLY as if you are Morse Coding Tony !!!
did he get punched in the face?