Man i played two completely different feeling automaton level 7 difficulty missions. First one the patrols were low and it was a fairly clean mission even with the fire tornados. The second one was hellmire on earth as soon as we landed as we were bombarded non stop by constant patrols, spawns, rockets through the dust and turret towers. The first felt like difficulty 4 while the second felt like difficulty 11
Ever notice bots getting stuck navigating the map and end up huddled around in giant 50+ clumps that are stuck in place? My guess is that the calmer missions are when a lot of enemies are stuck somewhere.
I love these different "classes" and themed roles you are creating. It makes me want to try a different playstyle in the same game, with the same tools. Much like being a warrior, hunter, and mage in an RPG. "Play it your way" type feels. You have alot of talent with this, that I havent seen in this game yet. Keep up the great videos!
Fire Tornados definitely could do with a reduction in how long they last, they can completely lock you out on an objective and when you literally have a mission timer already its really punishing.
It's why I never play on planets with these pseudo difficulty modifiers. Standing around afk waiting for a fire tornado to fk off isn't difficult, it's boring. Give me more stuff to shoot, harder enemies (like the factory strider), that's how you create difficulty and challenges which are fun to overcome.
I hate, hate, HATE the fire tornados. It's not that they make missions difficult. It's that they make them difficult in what is, in my opinion, an unfair way. If it was JUST the tornado, that'd be one thing. No, the problem is that trail of flame they leave behind. They gravitate toward you, sweep through objectives, and make them impossible to do until they leave and the fires die. If they stayed out of objectives or extraction, that'd be fine. If they didn't leave the trail of fire, that'd be fine. If they left a trail but there was a way to extinguish it and/or they burned out quickly, that'd be fine. As they are now, you basically are running around, hoping they aren't going over a spot you are required to be. And if they do, you get to just run around killing time until they are done (and meanwhile enemies are still coming in, attacking, calling reinforcements). Those tornados are the only thing I have this problem with. Meteor storms? You just need to be aware and you'll be able to dodge them. And once the meteor hits, it's done. It doesn't make the impact spot a no-go zone. Ion storms? Sure, you can't use your strategems and that can up the difficulty, but the storm isn't keeping you from running anywhere and it isn't damaging you.
See this: 27:17 this is the problem with automatons, you can run away throwing stuff behind you the whole mission (wich is not fun btw, at least to me) but as soon as you get into ONE head on conflict, this happens... And if they get to call in a drop, so begins the vicious cycle.
Fighting bots is guerilla warfare and it's very fun when you enjoy that playstyle of having to be smart with your position and movement. If you think you can face them head on, sitting still at high difficulty levels, it's just delusional.
Yeah, no, I think we've learned something: DON'T STAND IN FRONT OF GUNS. I swear, people make up the stupidest reasons to complain about how "hard" this game is. Like... they aren't bugs. Don't play like they are. Simple. Done. Easy. Holy shit.
That's why you don't run unless you're retreating to a better position. Heavy Armor builds can push into automaton assaults while Light builds flank for critical shots as long as you know what you're doing. Helldive is Helldive for a reason.
That has been my day for the last 12 hours... But in 1 hour or so we're done, and we can get to a much much better planet without fire, heat or stupid visual modifiers
Honestly it's we-tarded They want us to rely on strategems, but then hit us -1 stratagem modifiers and orbital scatter that makes half of them way worse... Then the fire tornadoes are clearly made to target players and key objectives to the point of sometimes being the sole reason why you fail Crazy
If you are thinking of trying this in public games, please actually be good. Had two people prior to this video try this and they got in a death loop and refused to leave the area they kept dying in wasting 18 reinforcements. If you can't handle a solo 9 with no support weapons please don't make other people suffer in public games.
if they aren't running away from the area after dying, they're not trying to play a rat. Bot missions are the epitome of "some days are fucked and cannot be unfucked; try again tomorrow", when the area is overrun, really all you can do is leave and wait for them to do the same before coming back. Any semi-competent player trying to play this game would not engage in a death loop like that unless they were trying to recover lost samples once the mission's literally over and would otherwise head for evac.
Ugh the players that join on your solo dive, repeatedly die and reinforce eachother until you have none left and then leave, usually achieving nothing other than a brief distraction for the bots. I know at least some of them have good intentions and just suck but I wonder if some are trolling. For this reason when I dive on bots I do it solo and switch back to public against bugs. Playing with friends is different ofc then I know I'm getting a competent group and any team kills are deliberate for sure 🤣
You should try a sentry style loud out. Where you only bring sentries of your choice (or HMG placement) Also, I know he’s said before that he played CSGO for years before this game, but before he mentioned it, I stg you could tell this dude played competitive shooters with how good is aim is and the instance switching of targets. Dude is too good. Enjoy the uploads Takibo! Hope you keep finding success, and fun, through content. Cheers 👍🏼
I played about 20-25 helldive missions today with the same team of friends. Around 18-20 of them went great, perfect clears with reinforcements to spare, but a few went so bad you'de think we are new to the game and bad at it... This mechanism is so broken that some times you just get stuck without any way to break the cycle... Everywhere you go there is a huge patrol, and every time you get stuck, more patrols and reinforcements are dropping on you... This shit is not fun, and whenever it happens you can fail a mission you'de otherwise should have passed easily...
@@johnniesalomon1942I understood that, with the bots, retreating and changing you immediate objectives is part of the game. Do not fight unfair fight. Or only unfair in your advantage ^^
@@johnniesalomon1942 I had this happen on a difficulty 4 mission the other day. It as a non-stop loop of reinforcements, patrols, etc. We ran out of ammo so many times and at one point a dropship dropped THREE hulks and tons of devastators. We died. A lot.
@@texasranger7687 Yeah, but when your only escape route gets filled with a patrol spawn over and over again, it's rough. Most of the time it works, but when it doesn't it gets very frustrating
@@adibemaxwell6111You have to fight on objectives, take out bot drop ships and move a lot. Playing with friends on helldive seems easier than randoms on difficulty 7-8. Depends on the mission type also. Chances of success are higher if you take out important objectives quickly, and your teammates are on the same page not fighting constantly in random spots.
That freakin invisible fire is the bane of my existence on fire tornado planets. It feels really really bad accidently dying to that because it feels so cheap. Also, if you want to lose the terminids, you need a jump pack instead of the shield. They are supposedly scent based, and breaking your trail on the ground breaks their ability to track you.
This video was great and this play style is working pretty well for me. Could you try a mission like geological survey or one where you don’t get that weird extraction? Not sure how to handle objectives where you have to stay in a small area while enemies are coming in/getting called in by the objective. The evacuate mission is good, but you have a large area to run around and you can leave and return.
As a Solo Diver that is stuck on level 4 I love your videos, Now this Rat style is awesome as I thought the style was my own personal Chicken Shit style, where I run around and try to whittle down the bots to what I can manage. It used to be on bots I would usually find a support weapon laying around pretty fast, but its weird since the patch they are hella scarce and when you find one its a flame thrower or arc. I do level threes to test weapons/stratagems you suggest, and another weird thing is getting tanks dropped on me in level threes, meh maybe the game is trying to encourage me.
My only big weakness with the bots are those damn sheild devistators. I can handle everything else but the second one of those starts firing at me I get hit a bunch and just die. Despite heavy armor! Worst luck every time! Otherwise! Great vid :) I may have to try this.
Yeah I feel like they do way to much damage. The regular ones could can an other buff I wouldn't mind but these are so annoying to deal with they really need a nerf, even a slight
It'd be nice if they had limited ammo before reloading or a bad turning angle but nah, if you can't kill them with what you have you are toast because no way are you landing 2-3 headshots before it hits you if you've already been caught. imo that shield needs to be nerfed, it shouldn't block railgun shots, it's stronger than hulk armor.
@@xyriliawhitestrake7263 fr even if you get around them and they are forced to turn around, they still have perfect accuracy without even moving the barrel of their gun, which makes no sense. If i get behind him or to the side of him, he should not be able to shoot me when his gun is not facing me
Heavy armor just doesn't seem worth it when it doesn't have democracy protects. You can shoot their weapon off, and one shot head shot them with the counter sniper also. They do hurt bad
That extraction was hilarious. I think that because you had the Scout passive and were prone, they didn't detect you when they arrived. However, the AI considers the extraction point a summoned object like a sentry or shield generator and the AI will attack those until they break. However, because they can't destroy it, they just kept firing at it and since it was the only thing they detected to attack they eventually just glitched and stood around. I think I'll try this the next time I'm on a bot planet. Call it Rat playstyle but Possum extraction style.
At 13:49 you can see a ship "warp" in right in front of the moon. Does not quite fit the Destroyer outline. There also seems to be a secondary "cloaked" one just ahead of it. Pretty good view of them as Takibo runs toward that direction
7:48 to be fair, these fire tornadoes will kill you most of the time but in some cases, based on my exp last night, it helped me on my extraction as a big patrol was coming towards us and they were passing in a valley where a fire tornado just scorched the ground and you what happened, they got COOKED! lol
the only silver lining of fire tornado planets I sincerely hope they implement having modules for armor where you can add more passives to existing ones, like fire resist or immunity, flinch resist or immunity, etc. resist takes up one slot while immunity ones take up 2 or more (as a balancing mechanic)
For me my greatest build would be arctic ranger armor set with the jar 5 dominator, P19 redeemer and of course stun grenades. As stratagems i'd take eagle airstrike to take care of large enemy groups and outposts + you have 3 uses that refill. orbital laser that can take care of large enemy groups and it targets fabricators and other important objectives that need to be destroyed. Autocannon to take care of big groups of enemies that are rushing towards you and great in killing every unit besides the dropships. If there's a 4th slot i'll just take either take 380mm to clear a base or eagle cluster bombs with 5 uses to take care of even the largest groups and it works pretty well i cleared half of the objectives on a mission on my own while the other 3 teammates go together do the other half
How do you throw stratagems long distances like at 1:51? I'm trying tor replicate it and I can't seem to figure it out, if someone could help me out I would appreciate it
I noticed that yesterday with the bot drops... I thought they were limited to one every three minutes, based on research from a couple of other creators that have been doing HD2 content lately. Definitely ran multiple missions where bot drops were happening as close as thirty seconds together.
Got lucky with a scout build vs Automatons. I was at the extraction point and hid in a corner. The bots stormed the extraction site looked around and promptly ran back out. At the 30 second mark I dropped the Orbital Laser on them and tossed a 500kg at the other entrance point. Wish I'd filmed it. --- Wolfe
Swap the spear for the shield pack it's a blast at taking out facilities and turrets from distance! I wish they would let us see building damage stats at the end of the game.
If you are playing stealth correctly you will not need the shield. Also, if you are good at stealth you will realize the scout armor isn't necessary to play this playstyle. Instead, consider taking your support weapon instead of the backpack shield, and wear light explo armor ( I've done it in medium explo armor or medium scout also) and you will have a more well rounded loadout. AMR is fun for Rat builds.
"we gonna help out the cause". As my mother always told me, finish your vegetables, and finish your ops, or you are not doing anything for the cause! ;)
For my rat loadout, I use the eruptor instead. I'm not gonna stay in combat anyway, stuns and running away works just as well, and eruptor lets me close fabs from significant distances, and getting back into cover (aka out of LOS and retaliation) before they even notice what happened. Shield generator is also overrated imho. I take laser cannon instead for the times I do need to wipe out a single location and as an effective primary (and it also deals with gunships very well), EMP mortar to draw aggro away, and the final item be either a regular airstrike or 380, depending on what meets my fancy. Granted this isn't quite as good in hot planets, so I switch instead to autocannon and plasma punisher.
I dunno if I can play like this. I like to move fast and avoid getting hit but I like to shoot stuff, to the point I run out of ammo. Since the spawn rate bug, I've had to switch to this armour which has half the armour but more stealth, it lets me pick my battles, but I still like taking them out. However if I do get overrun I can disengage to reingage. I use the AMR and Jetpack and can take out all the bots with ease. Bugs however, I just can't find as good a combo.
Half the time I do SEAF SAM sites, I just sneak in, hit the terminal right behind a inattentive guard then leave, leaving the bot alive to simmer in guilt when the first SAM fires off. Suffer and remember the day you got Ninja'd.
Normally I run around and handle things with stealth by myself while everyone else is fighting the bots, if I’m spotted I leave, I hit from a distance using Spear and run away, might not seem effective but I can handle one half of the map myself while the team handles the other half in about the same time.
If you put mortar in your loadout, just hide it behind a rock and let it start shooting. Automatons then aggro towards the turret while you can run around and wreck the base, or take the objective. Depending on what you do. Red stratagems immediately draw aggro towards you.
Ill have to try this out, i always go with the autocannon turret because its such a beast, but it gets destroyed pretty quickly most of the time. All it jeeds is like 10-15 seconds tho and itll clear out a ton of enemies.
have anyone see these fire tornados kill a biletitan or those larger tanks/factory striders?? those bots really hate that extraction tower XD had a similar game where i was just "hiding" behind a small ledge but none of the bots really pushed up to swarm me..just around 2 bots that had an angle to shoot a few shots but not quite kill me until the ship actually spawns
apparently the JAR-5 can do it too... but i once downed 12 of the damned things with the Emancipator and then killed another three (last ones after we hellbombed the gunship towers) with a quasar. Just remember, we humans have better target prediction and tracking (if you dont get flinched)
They need to seriously change the fire tornados. Having that many that close is rediculous. They are not random at all. They will chase you down. It makes them just feel like an invincible boss entity and not a weather event.
Something isn't right about this. The obvious thing is when you do the first part of the main objectives. You NEVER get the option to do the 100% terminal thing until you've put the Dropbox in the tower. You hit the code, open the hatch, then have to put the box in, come back, do the 100%, then the final code.
Oh hey this is what I do! Except it's 120, 380, gattling barrage and orbital laser. Just running around and exploding shit without taking any patrol or breach fights
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Holy shit prob had 50 hours on that planet alone, refused to fight bugs and rather deal with hiking devastators who can clip through terrain
The bug divers...
I seriously want to know who are the masochistic civilians that want to live on planets with fire tornadoes.
They are told to do so by democratic goverment
They don't, they probably submitted their housing requests too late and all the decent planets were taken.
There's always somebody willing to put up with some sht for cheap land
Poor people volunteering to work in dangerous places for good pay.
@@godsamongmen8003Also so they can qualify for higher citizenship status.
Man i played two completely different feeling automaton level 7 difficulty missions. First one the patrols were low and it was a fairly clean mission even with the fire tornados.
The second one was hellmire on earth as soon as we landed as we were bombarded non stop by constant patrols, spawns, rockets through the dust and turret towers.
The first felt like difficulty 4 while the second felt like difficulty 11
Lol I experienced the same thing yesterday
this really is something i cant put my finger on in this game. So inconsistent
Ever notice bots getting stuck navigating the map and end up huddled around in giant 50+ clumps that are stuck in place?
My guess is that the calmer missions are when a lot of enemies are stuck somewhere.
Same. I'm glad the game keeps it exciting.
@@Pikmin012 scary thing is when the clump is alerted to where you are and suddenly their pathfinding works again
21:40 breakdancing bot and the single fire tornado right on the evac have me in stitches 😂
I love these different "classes" and themed roles you are creating. It makes me want to try a different playstyle in the same game, with the same tools. Much like being a warrior, hunter, and mage in an RPG. "Play it your way" type feels. You have alot of talent with this, that I havent seen in this game yet. Keep up the great videos!
This feels like a commando/saboteur class
Pretty neat to catch you outside motorcyclist circles.
Ride and Dive safe, man
Fire Tornados definitely could do with a reduction in how long they last, they can completely lock you out on an objective and when you literally have a mission timer already its really punishing.
Less so the tornado itself, more so the fire it leaves behind. I swear, it looks like it's gone, I step there, and I melt.
It's why I never play on planets with these pseudo difficulty modifiers.
Standing around afk waiting for a fire tornado to fk off isn't difficult, it's boring.
Give me more stuff to shoot, harder enemies (like the factory strider), that's how you create difficulty and challenges which are fun to overcome.
@@maiy8786 Speak for yourself.
I hate, hate, HATE the fire tornados. It's not that they make missions difficult. It's that they make them difficult in what is, in my opinion, an unfair way. If it was JUST the tornado, that'd be one thing. No, the problem is that trail of flame they leave behind. They gravitate toward you, sweep through objectives, and make them impossible to do until they leave and the fires die.
If they stayed out of objectives or extraction, that'd be fine. If they didn't leave the trail of fire, that'd be fine. If they left a trail but there was a way to extinguish it and/or they burned out quickly, that'd be fine. As they are now, you basically are running around, hoping they aren't going over a spot you are required to be. And if they do, you get to just run around killing time until they are done (and meanwhile enemies are still coming in, attacking, calling reinforcements).
Those tornados are the only thing I have this problem with.
Meteor storms? You just need to be aware and you'll be able to dodge them. And once the meteor hits, it's done. It doesn't make the impact spot a no-go zone.
Ion storms? Sure, you can't use your strategems and that can up the difficulty, but the storm isn't keeping you from running anywhere and it isn't damaging you.
@@DesolateLavenderI think he did hence “give me more” haha
That fire tornado was around for just under 5 minutes and 30 seconds when you were trying to release the scientists, what a way to slow down gameplay
also yes we can see the screenshots LMAO that's great
Court Marshall for killing a civilian 😂
That extraction was hilarious.
Another gem of a video, so much fun to watch between my dives. Thank you.
Eruptor and plasma punisher can damage gunships as well iirc but the scorcher is a hell of a lot easier to hit them lol
Pretty sure the dominator can too, but the recoil makes it a pain.
See this: 27:17 this is the problem with automatons, you can run away throwing stuff behind you the whole mission (wich is not fun btw, at least to me) but as soon as you get into ONE head on conflict, this happens... And if they get to call in a drop, so begins the vicious cycle.
Fighting bots is guerilla warfare and it's very fun when you enjoy that playstyle of having to be smart with your position and movement.
If you think you can face them head on, sitting still at high difficulty levels, it's just delusional.
I feel like the firestorm screwed him more than the automatons on that part. lol
Yeah, no, I think we've learned something:
DON'T STAND IN FRONT OF GUNS.
I swear, people make up the stupidest reasons to complain about how "hard" this game is.
Like... they aren't bugs. Don't play like they are. Simple. Done. Easy. Holy shit.
That's why you don't run unless you're retreating to a better position.
Heavy Armor builds can push into automaton assaults while Light builds flank for critical shots as long as you know what you're doing. Helldive is Helldive for a reason.
@@_Jay_Maker_ Exactly. They pick the hardest difficulty, and are surprised it's hard.
this playstyle is a must try for me, great work on filming build/playstyle with tips
That was freaking awesome. That ending was Legendary!
i cant stand this MO. fire tornados, strategem debuffs, bad visibility more than half the time, just too frustrating
That has been my day for the last 12 hours... But in 1 hour or so we're done, and we can get to a much much better planet without fire, heat or stupid visual modifiers
It’s about done on wezen anyway thank liberty
We are about to take the planet so no more fire🎉
Honestly it's we-tarded
They want us to rely on strategems, but then hit us -1 stratagem modifiers and orbital scatter that makes half of them way worse... Then the fire tornadoes are clearly made to target players and key objectives to the point of sometimes being the sole reason why you fail
Crazy
Yh its annoying af. No fun at all
The civilians sprinting straight out of their shelter into a wall of fire was great
Evacuate citizens on Difficulty 9? Are you crazy?
atleast it wasnt the other evacuate citizens
Yeah the hold out and defend one with bots is not fun, other one is ez
To be honest, this large, open map evacuation is a breeze compared to the compact one where every enemy is at your heels from the get go.
@@lebitelexie9350The other one is played on an equally sized map, with the same number of enemies… except they task every patrol to your location.
If you are thinking of trying this in public games, please actually be good. Had two people prior to this video try this and they got in a death loop and refused to leave the area they kept dying in wasting 18 reinforcements. If you can't handle a solo 9 with no support weapons please don't make other people suffer in public games.
Why would they try to stealth a mission if they then stay fighting reinforcement?
if they aren't running away from the area after dying, they're not trying to play a rat.
Bot missions are the epitome of "some days are fucked and cannot be unfucked; try again tomorrow", when the area is overrun, really all you can do is leave and wait for them to do the same before coming back. Any semi-competent player trying to play this game would not engage in a death loop like that unless they were trying to recover lost samples once the mission's literally over and would otherwise head for evac.
Ugh the players that join on your solo dive, repeatedly die and reinforce eachother until you have none left and then leave, usually achieving nothing other than a brief distraction for the bots. I know at least some of them have good intentions and just suck but I wonder if some are trolling. For this reason when I dive on bots I do it solo and switch back to public against bugs. Playing with friends is different ofc then I know I'm getting a competent group and any team kills are deliberate for sure 🤣
I think this is meant for solo but I very much agree with your sentiment
@@damienmcdonald7610 why are you playing solo in public matchmaking tho?
Takibo to citizens re fire tornados - "That's kind of a 'you' problem, not a 'me' problem.", "Go around dickhead". Hilarious :)
Its far easier to take a screenshot with the f12 key. Steam will take a picture of your whole game for you, no pausing to select your screen.
You should try a sentry style loud out. Where you only bring sentries of your choice (or HMG placement)
Also, I know he’s said before that he played CSGO for years before this game, but before he mentioned it, I stg you could tell this dude played competitive shooters with how good is aim is and the instance switching of targets. Dude is too good.
Enjoy the uploads Takibo! Hope you keep finding success, and fun, through content. Cheers 👍🏼
now THIS is a playstyle i can fully subscribe to. the enemies cant kill you if they cant catch you!
funniest extraction ever also what the hell
I feel very called out by the intro 🤣🤣🤣
I changed my playstyle to this and my death rate went way down
7:15 is why I don't like bots; broken reinforcing mechanics causing a domino effect.
I played about 20-25 helldive missions today with the same team of friends. Around 18-20 of them went great, perfect clears with reinforcements to spare, but a few went so bad you'de think we are new to the game and bad at it...
This mechanism is so broken that some times you just get stuck without any way to break the cycle... Everywhere you go there is a huge patrol, and every time you get stuck, more patrols and reinforcements are dropping on you... This shit is not fun, and whenever it happens you can fail a mission you'de otherwise should have passed easily...
@@johnniesalomon1942I understood that, with the bots, retreating and changing you immediate objectives is part of the game. Do not fight unfair fight. Or only unfair in your advantage ^^
@@johnniesalomon1942 I had this happen on a difficulty 4 mission the other day. It as a non-stop loop of reinforcements, patrols, etc. We ran out of ammo so many times and at one point a dropship dropped THREE hulks and tons of devastators. We died. A lot.
@@texasranger7687 Yeah, but when your only escape route gets filled with a patrol spawn over and over again, it's rough. Most of the time it works, but when it doesn't it gets very frustrating
@@adibemaxwell6111You have to fight on objectives, take out bot drop ships and move a lot. Playing with friends on helldive seems easier than randoms on difficulty 7-8. Depends on the mission type also. Chances of success are higher if you take out important objectives quickly, and your teammates are on the same page not fighting constantly in random spots.
That freakin invisible fire is the bane of my existence on fire tornado planets. It feels really really bad accidently dying to that because it feels so cheap.
Also, if you want to lose the terminids, you need a jump pack instead of the shield. They are supposedly scent based, and breaking your trail on the ground breaks their ability to track you.
This video was great and this play style is working pretty well for me. Could you try a mission like geological survey or one where you don’t get that weird extraction?
Not sure how to handle objectives where you have to stay in a small area while enemies are coming in/getting called in by the objective. The evacuate mission is good, but you have a large area to run around and you can leave and return.
Awesome gameplay dude
As a Solo Diver that is stuck on level 4 I love your videos, Now this Rat style is awesome as I thought the style was my own personal Chicken Shit style, where I run around and try to whittle down the bots to what I can manage.
It used to be on bots I would usually find a support weapon laying around pretty fast, but its weird since the patch they are hella scarce and when you find one its a flame thrower or arc. I do level threes to test weapons/stratagems you suggest, and another weird thing is getting tanks dropped on me in level threes, meh maybe the game is trying to encourage me.
i can vouch for the dominator VS gunships... blast the motors on the side
Cool gameplay 😎
I'm imagining the helldiver at the extraction, lying there in the ditch and grumbling in the fake robot voice "brbrbr diver scum blblrlbrl"
My only big weakness with the bots are those damn sheild devistators.
I can handle everything else but the second one of those starts firing at me I get hit a bunch and just die. Despite heavy armor! Worst luck every time!
Otherwise! Great vid :) I may have to try this.
I use the plasma punisher cuz of the stun lock it causes even if I hit his shield the . scorcher probably does it well too but I don't got it
Yeah I feel like they do way to much damage. The regular ones could can an other buff I wouldn't mind but these are so annoying to deal with they really need a nerf, even a slight
It'd be nice if they had limited ammo before reloading or a bad turning angle but nah, if you can't kill them with what you have you are toast because no way are you landing 2-3 headshots before it hits you if you've already been caught. imo that shield needs to be nerfed, it shouldn't block railgun shots, it's stronger than hulk armor.
@@xyriliawhitestrake7263 fr even if you get around them and they are forced to turn around, they still have perfect accuracy without even moving the barrel of their gun, which makes no sense. If i get behind him or to the side of him, he should not be able to shoot me when his gun is not facing me
Heavy armor just doesn't seem worth it when it doesn't have democracy protects. You can shoot their weapon off, and one shot head shot them with the counter sniper also. They do hurt bad
Splinter would be proud, a true ninja
That extraction was hilarious. I think that because you had the Scout passive and were prone, they didn't detect you when they arrived. However, the AI considers the extraction point a summoned object like a sentry or shield generator and the AI will attack those until they break. However, because they can't destroy it, they just kept firing at it and since it was the only thing they detected to attack they eventually just glitched and stood around.
I think I'll try this the next time I'm on a bot planet. Call it Rat playstyle but Possum extraction style.
Shooting the extra citizen was devious AF 😂
I just skip anything with fire tornadoes. Sorry, they're just a mess
Puss
Do we know if the patch fixed scorchers taking out gunships?
The spear (especially after the fix soon) is great for this
At 13:49 you can see a ship "warp" in right in front of the moon. Does not quite fit the Destroyer outline. There also seems to be a secondary "cloaked" one just ahead of it. Pretty good view of them as Takibo runs toward that direction
Ahh good eye!
They’re watching. 👀
lol the citizens just running into the fire
7:48 to be fair, these fire tornadoes will kill you most of the time but in some cases, based on my exp last night, it helped me on my extraction as a big patrol was coming towards us and they were passing in a valley where a fire tornado just scorched the ground and you what happened, they got COOKED! lol
the only silver lining of fire tornado planets
I sincerely hope they implement having modules for armor where you can add more passives to existing ones, like fire resist or immunity, flinch resist or immunity, etc.
resist takes up one slot while immunity ones take up 2 or more (as a balancing mechanic)
What's up legend.
What's the trick to your grenade-toss dive?
How much extra range does it give?
General Sam approves 😂
For me my greatest build would be arctic ranger armor set with the jar 5 dominator, P19 redeemer and of course stun grenades. As stratagems i'd take eagle airstrike to take care of large enemy groups and outposts + you have 3 uses that refill. orbital laser that can take care of large enemy groups and it targets fabricators and other important objectives that need to be destroyed. Autocannon to take care of big groups of enemies that are rushing towards you and great in killing every unit besides the dropships. If there's a 4th slot i'll just take either take 380mm to clear a base or eagle cluster bombs with 5 uses to take care of even the largest groups and it works pretty well i cleared half of the objectives on a mission on my own while the other 3 teammates go together do the other half
"If we don't know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can't anticipate our future actions."
You may have already talked about this but what do you have your binds set to to be able to move and call in strategems at the same time?
Change your stratagem buttons from WASD to the arrow keys
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"I'm confused, they're confused, that's the strategy" 🤣
At 13:33 a huge cloaked ship warps in, in the sky. Anyone else seeing this?
Another one at 13:50
Weapons with medium armor pen. Can kill gunships, such as the diligence sniper but it’s a bit slow
How do you throw stratagems long distances like at 1:51? I'm trying tor replicate it and I can't seem to figure it out, if someone could help me out I would appreciate it
😂 Not You... Ship's Full. LOL
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At 7:15 the new bot drop got triggered probably because the timer get reset when you activate a secondary as the data-pod.
I use the punisher plasma and not sure if it hurts gunships tbh. Maybe need to test more
I noticed that yesterday with the bot drops... I thought they were limited to one every three minutes, based on research from a couple of other creators that have been doing HD2 content lately. Definitely ran multiple missions where bot drops were happening as close as thirty seconds together.
Look at that RAT :D
so this MO is training us for stealth operations
Gigachad: Deploy me a Land raider equip with lascannons on the left side, and melta guns on the right side.
Got lucky with a scout build vs Automatons. I was at the extraction point and hid in a corner. The bots stormed the extraction site looked around and promptly ran back out. At the 30 second mark I dropped the Orbital Laser on them and tossed a 500kg at the other entrance point. Wish I'd filmed it. --- Wolfe
I love you Takibowo
On the SEAF Artillery you can climb on that yellow console, you don't need to run around it
Hell-Skaven YES-YES
Swap the spear for the shield pack it's a blast at taking out facilities and turrets from distance! I wish they would let us see building damage stats at the end of the game.
Does the game not crash for you like every time you play??)
If you are playing stealth correctly you will not need the shield. Also, if you are good at stealth you will realize the scout armor isn't necessary to play this playstyle. Instead, consider taking your support weapon instead of the backpack shield, and wear light explo armor ( I've done it in medium explo armor or medium scout also) and you will have a more well rounded loadout. AMR is fun for Rat builds.
Hello, could you make a tier list video? I’d like to see your opinion. Thank you.
He probably will after the new update comes out this coming week.
"we gonna help out the cause". As my mother always told me, finish your vegetables, and finish your ops, or you are not doing anything for the cause! ;)
32:00 Steam has a built in screenshot feature. Just press one button instead of using the snipping tool.
bro is based thats why
For my rat loadout, I use the eruptor instead. I'm not gonna stay in combat anyway, stuns and running away works just as well, and eruptor lets me close fabs from significant distances, and getting back into cover (aka out of LOS and retaliation) before they even notice what happened. Shield generator is also overrated imho. I take laser cannon instead for the times I do need to wipe out a single location and as an effective primary (and it also deals with gunships very well), EMP mortar to draw aggro away, and the final item be either a regular airstrike or 380, depending on what meets my fancy.
Granted this isn't quite as good in hot planets, so I switch instead to autocannon and plasma punisher.
Fire tornadoes hurt bots. It'll kill small bots and heavily hurt berserkers at least.
27:30 is why I bring the JAR over the scorcher. But I use autocannon to take out most things
This is how my group play. In and out in under 10 minutes. Our fastest being 6m22s on a command bunker mission.
@19:25 Next time bring the Fire Extinguisher Stratagem! ;-)
1- how you chuck your grenades so damn far lol second I feel like when i wear scout armor I'm way slower then you >.>
I dunno if I can play like this.
I like to move fast and avoid getting hit but I like to shoot stuff, to the point I run out of ammo.
Since the spawn rate bug, I've had to switch to this armour which has half the armour but more stealth, it lets me pick my battles, but I still like taking them out.
However if I do get overrun I can disengage to reingage.
I use the AMR and Jetpack and can take out all the bots with ease. Bugs however, I just can't find as good a combo.
I do something similar.
Jet Pack; Commando RL; Precision Strike; Eagle Air Strike
Med Scout armor (basic warbond); Counter Sniper Rifle or Scorcher
Revolver & Smoke grenades.
The plasma punisher can drop gunships but the projectile arc and speed means you should only use it in the very worst case scenario
How does this compare to Malevelon Creek for you veterans here?
Half the time I do SEAF SAM sites, I just sneak in, hit the terminal right behind a inattentive guard then leave, leaving the bot alive to simmer in guilt when the first SAM fires off.
Suffer and remember the day you got Ninja'd.
Plasma Punisher can shoot down Gunships too, but the arcing shot makes accuracy difficult. I've pulled it off on occasion, though.
What you did to that last citizen was evil.
But necessary.
Dominator can down gunships very quickly too, but the shot leading is an issue
I would have ran Orbital Precision strike instead of 500kg so it's not sharing cooldown with eagle-1. Still an awesome loadout :D
Normally I run around and handle things with stealth by myself while everyone else is fighting the bots, if I’m spotted I leave, I hit from a distance using Spear and run away, might not seem effective but I can handle one half of the map myself while the team handles the other half in about the same time.
If you put mortar in your loadout, just hide it behind a rock and let it start shooting. Automatons then aggro towards the turret while you can run around and wreck the base, or take the objective. Depending on what you do. Red stratagems immediately draw aggro towards you.
Ill have to try this out, i always go with the autocannon turret because its such a beast, but it gets destroyed pretty quickly most of the time. All it jeeds is like 10-15 seconds tho and itll clear out a ton of enemies.
red stratagems: aggro towards *you* , or *towards your last location at the time of throwing?*
Can you actually throw further by leaping forward?
Sprinting and diving both allow to throw farther so ive heard
have anyone see these fire tornados kill a biletitan or those larger tanks/factory striders??
those bots really hate that extraction tower XD
had a similar game where i was just "hiding" behind a small ledge but none of the bots really pushed up to swarm me..just around 2 bots that had an angle to shoot a few shots but not quite kill me until the ship actually spawns
34:51 that's 14 lol, 25 rep per
The scorcher can take down gunships? 200hrs and I'm still a dumbass when it comes to HD2
apparently the JAR-5 can do it too... but i once downed 12 of the damned things with the Emancipator and then killed another three (last ones after we hellbombed the gunship towers) with a quasar.
Just remember, we humans have better target prediction and tracking (if you dont get flinched)
They need to seriously change the fire tornados. Having that many that close is rediculous. They are not random at all. They will chase you down. It makes them just feel like an invincible boss entity and not a weather event.
Something isn't right about this. The obvious thing is when you do the first part of the main objectives. You NEVER get the option to do the 100% terminal thing until you've put the Dropbox in the tower. You hit the code, open the hatch, then have to put the box in, come back, do the 100%, then the final code.
I miss pre-nerf eruptor
Oh hey this is what I do! Except it's 120, 380, gattling barrage and orbital laser. Just running around and exploding shit without taking any patrol or breach fights
Diligence Counter Sniper can shoot down gunships
The Dominator can also kill gunships.
Those tornadoes are almost as effective at killing bots as they are divers btw.😂
Jar can kill gun ships but it is a bit painful
31:00 should've brought the walking barrage.
takibo literally and figurately ROASTING the citizens AI
The Eruptor used to be great against the gunships.
"man automaton is soo hard"
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