Why incompetent people think they're amazing - David Dunning
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How good are you with money? What about reading people’s emotions? How healthy are you, compared to other people you know? Knowing how our skills stack up against others is useful in many ways. But psychological research suggests that we’re not very good at evaluating ourselves accurately. In fact, we frequently overestimate our own abilities. David Dunning describes the Dunning-Kruger effect.
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I appreciate the effort but the background music was a little too distracting… maybe it's just me🙄
The video was great by the way!
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One of my favorite stories...
A university professor was speaking to freshman on their first day of classes. He said, "I realize you have recently graduated from high school and I would venture to guess that most of you think you know everything. Let me assure you that as you gain your bachelor's degree, you will soon realize that you DON'T know everything. If you continue to the point of reaching your master's degree, you will find that YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. And then, if you continue with your education, you may someday receive your doctorate only to find that NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING.
We don’t know anything we just know we miss someone
@Jhaymarc Hoy yes
@Jhaymarc Hoy helloooooo 🥰🥰🥰
If that was true, then the professor shouldn’t know anything but he does so people do know things
That’s awesome
I wonder if this is based on North American or Western studies which I think has some effect. I'm originally from an Asian culture where presenting yourself as highly competent isn't well seen and that you need to be humble. I was shocked and confused by the Western culture where it's normal and even encouraged to speak of yourself with such enthusiastic confidence. When I went to job interviews and I tried to be humble about my skills, I was always rejected. I remember talking about this with my friends who told me I had to sound very confident in everything and essentially "sell" myself like a product. Only once I started to do this did I hear back with job offers. So if this is a Western-based studies, I think it would be interesting to compare this to studies on other cultures that value confidence and over-confidence differently.
Damn.. that could have a great effect if they are trying to learn more about people in general. And yeah, we asians we're practiced to be humble and respect one another even as a baby lols.
Exactly. I recently moved to the US and this is mildly confusing. It's almost like people who boast are the ones who get respect from others. Where I came from, being more quiet and humble is valued more.
I think a combination of the two is best though. Not too humble, and not overconfident.
Agreed.
As a Western person, I just had to respond to your comment. I just could not let it pass without adding this. You are so RIGHT!!!! In Western culture, you have to blow your own trumpet to get anywhere, including job interviews. Western society is big on a person being smarter, faster and being better than anyone else. And all you have to do is look at the people being followed on social media. Like the Kardashian's, feckless people who are only in it for the money and millions love them. Western society is about being better than anyone else. As you are an Asian, I would bet in America, most people would look down on you, especially if you are brighter or have a better education. Westerners on the whole are fake, lack culture and lack the ability to accept that other cultures are as valued or as good as their own. Americans on the whole are really uneducated people who are brought up on propaganda and do not have the ability to understand that fact. Just watch any of their news, left or right, it is propaganda and very little news reporting. I am Australian, and I love the way Asians embrace education, that shows smart people. And it is funny, but unlike my peers, I get on very well with Asians from everywhere. Cheers
Eh I'm not sure, usually Asian parents will brag about their sons or daughters slightly and try to maintain a 'humble' tone. It all depends on that person, but they will always act polite by not being too proud or boastful. On the other hand, idk how that applies to the kids or the Asian people, since I've never been taught or seen someone teach others to act 'humble' in their cognitive abilities in Asia. I mean, we obviously hate people that boast too much in Asia cause we are proud of ourselves and fell superior inside, so we act 'humble' in public so that more people will talk to us and be gathered around you even though you have a high esteem in the inside kinda like a snake. That's what I deduced about asians after long years of my parents and other parents showing off about their kids and acting polite and 'humble' for the majority of the time.
One of the problems with judging driving abilities is we judge others by their actions and we tend to judge ourselves by our intentions.
Everyone does this? All people? Are you sure?
Well said Dan
I think the problem with most self-evaluated things is that we all have different standards for what is "good" in the first place. If each score has a different standard, then you can't compare the scores.
Staying with the driving theme:
1a. I score myself higher than someone else because I got around them quickly and then well out of their way. Minimal interaction, so if something goes wrong with either of us, it doesn't automatically involve the other.
And for highway entrance ramps, I'll use a lot of throttle to match speed, and often position in my chosen gap too, by the time I get there. Just slide right in. (wide-open close to red-line is okay; it's louder than usual, but it's designed to do that for exactly this purpose) I really don't like when someone else in front of me, coasts all the way down the ramp and THEN tries to merge while only going about half the speed of the traffic they're trying to merge with! (big trucks get an exception, because they tend to be under-powered for their weight and highly visible, and they can pretty much do whatever they want anyway and win; regular cars don't)
1b. That same "someone else" scores themselves higher than me because they drive slowly. Slow = safe, right?
2a. I get frustrated when two slow people sit next to each other, significantly under the expected speed, taking both lanes for this direction, and I'm behind them.
2b. They think nothing of it. In fact, they may not even realize that's what they're doing, or even that they're doing *anything* beyond rote "driving motions". Meanwhile, the camera-less under-the-dash diagnostic plug that their insurance gave them says they're doing wonderfully...
3a. "Safe", to me, involves the expectations of others, which in turn, requires constant observation. If everyone's ignoring the speed sign, as they do in my city, then it becomes a hazard to actually follow that sign. In a different city that I used to frequent, they do take the sign more seriously, so I do too when I'm there. When in Rome...
3b. "Safe", or at least "morally imperative" with no discussion allowed, to some people I've met, means following the letter, regardless of where they are or what's happening around them.
- Etc.
I hope I didn't include TOO many "strawmen" in that! But even so, I think you still get my point.
@@aaronduerksen1378 ... but why?
@@mydogeatspuke Why what? There are lots of things that that single-word question could apply to. Which one(s) are you thinking of?
“When they are unskilled, they can’t see their own faults. When they’re exceptionally competent, they don’t perceive how unusual their abilities are” so true!!!
not always
This is why it's so painful to have a programmer explain anything to you. They tell you Z but not A-Z....absolutely no ability to explain to absolute beginners...
@@rhaenentargaryen9996 you need to be wise to recognize that you may be worse than you think. It's possible but also hard to differentiate from self-doubt until you compare yourself to others, at which point you become less incompetent.
@@runtergerutscht4401 exactly. It's hard to say if it's true or if it's self-doubt/ego talking.
@@pineappleparty1624That is not a problem with programmers, but with didactic of some/many of them. There is no relation between the two things unless you can prove scientifically or philosophically there is.
My two favorite quotes are, "Beware of the man who has read one book," and "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing." So true.
Agree about the book. And "a little knowledge" is dangerous because "a little" is usually not enough to actually work.
especially the communist manifesto
"A little knowledge is a dangerous thing... but not half as bad as a lot of ignorance" - Terry Pratchett
Best version is from Bruce Lee: I don't fear the man who has practised 5000 kicks once, but the man who practised 1 kick 5000 times.
@It will be fine. I think you might be responding to the wrong person.
A famous saying goes...
"The more I learn the less I know."
I find this statement so true...
Rᴏʏᴀʟ Rᴀʙʙɪᴛ I dont get this quote
@@enonymuz8627 For example, pretend you are an ant. You would only know how to provide for the colony and the queen, thus this is your percieved world and ALL you know. But teach the ant math then you would realize there is more to this world than you know.
Socratic Ignorance
The more I learn, [the more I realize] the less I know.
@@goosecouple Exactly 👍
When you ask employees to do a self-evaluation, they know that their future promotions depend on how well other's perceive their abilities. So, it is not in their self-interest to publicize the fact that they are below average, even if they are aware of it.
Physics Videos by Eugene Khutoryansky Right on! I rate myself at a nine on ten or even 10 when asked to do so during my annual appraisals knowing that my manager would rate me at a level lesser than that. My next hike depends on that.
VolvenIV doesn't matter. Everyone in the organization knows. Everyone is a part of that big lie.
Ganesh R You realize that you're egoistically taking away from those who are honest to themselves?
DankyD I do realize. But like others around I've also become a fan of Charles Darwin's theories..
DankyD Everyone in this kind of thing is out for themselves. Don't bring up selfishness as if he was the only one, or as if people aren't all selfish to an extent.
After 15 minutes of research, I understand the DK effect better than anyone on Earth and all time.
And you are not alone.
😂
Brilliant.
Until now. You have been replaced by one who did not require so much studying to know everything.
DONKEY KONG
Welp, there goes my last drop of confidence
Lol
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Hahahaha
haha
Ikr same, I get some answers right but I always follow my friend cuz I don't have self comfidence
I have found that a good way to know if someone actually knows a lot about some particular subject matter is to ask them what they DON'T know about the subject and what speculation they may have concerning it or where they would like to learn more. The idiots will claim they have it all figured out. The highly-knowledgeable will be able to give you a well-thought-out answer that explains where they specifically think they could gain better understanding/ability.
I like this quotes
So right
Helpful. What would you improve about this process?
Exactly.
@@jamera8223 I see what you did there...
The more you know, the more you know you don't know - Aristotle
Close
Perhaps, it is: "The more you think you know, the more you don't know"
Actually, it's "the more you know, the more you realise what you don't know"
@@maxime-olivierdako5410 thanks, I'll update it.
@@キラキラくりくり頭 thanks, I'll update the comment.
I look at old drawings I did and think "wow, I can't believe I used to be proud of this, like it was flawless" because I have reached the point where I can see all the things that could be improved. I imagine that in the future I will say the same thing about my current drawings. But I have seen people who draw very poorly get heaps of praise from family and friends who are trying to be nice, and it deludes them into thinking they are actually good, and they never improve. People need to be encouraged, but they also need to be guided in the right direction and shown where they can improve.
I agree, it's only challenging to do this right. It's better to understand the person, and how s/he receives compliments. For some people, compliments may mean something good that uplifts them, for others it may become pressure from a raised expectation. So are criticisms, and improvements. One may tell both positive and negative but the person might focus on the negative and develop a lower self-esteem. It depends on the person you're complimenting. Maybe that compliment you say to be polite becomes that person's motivation to continue the certain activity. It's hard to know, really, what will happen.
When I look my old drawings I think “wow I should have continued with art because I was actually good but only saw flaws and how much I lacked.”
@@Nadia-ox1kf me too.. What does this mean? Only that we stopped pursuing it and therefore stopped gaining more knowledge and are basically still at the same level or less?
Its fun to be good at something. And it may aswell just be an emmotion. Youre more likely to continue pursueing something if youre constantly impressing yourself and are open to new information.
aka *”send this to your friend passive aggressively whenever they try to flex on you”*
Bruh I’m sending this on the group discord next time someone calls my spray bad
I send
It got me good replies
They were angry😈
Omg I just sent this to my friend
😂😂😂😂😂
@@angie6004 Angie, he told me he is now your ex-friend. LOL
"People usually do admit their deficits, once they can spot them."
Translation: When reality smacks you in the face, good luck faking it from that point forward.
Oh man, i died laughing at this🤣🤣
You'd be surprised how good narcissists are at that :P
I've seen people taking full beatings from reality and still believing they are right. It's frustrating
@@matheuscerqueira7952 same, sometimes you just can't teach old dog new trick. We can only take lesson and improve our self. And stay humble
Unless you have a personality disorder
"The problem in this world is that intelligent people are full of doubt while incompetents are full of confidence"
Charles Bukowski
Agatha Duzan That wouldn't work out too well just by itself; but such incompetent people get elected and granted (world) power and wealth, which is why the competent never are able to raise
As a poet said, "The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity."
-and people usually prefer someone with confidence than someone who are full of doubt.
Agatha Duzan i know i'm a great student and can study, but even having a Ma, in Education, and tutoring means i have to study everyday, to make sure i deliver the right information in the lessons or knowing how to help with math, english, science, gramma, aswel as geography. This doesn't come easy. I've always said i'm a good student. Not smart. I'm just a man.
Hana Tjia I wouldn't know about people but horses definitely do. Unless their human is calm and confident they can't feel safe. (I obviously spend more time with horses than humans.)
I humbly believe that the greatest wisdom, is to know what you don't know. When you're out of your depth. I know a lot about a lot of things, but never miss an opportunity to learn from others who know better, no matter what their seniority.
Me, who already has low self-esteem: PERFECT
Same
@@shrutis I mean, you're learning somethin'. :/
Yeah i just watched this video thinking I know I’m flawed in every aspect possible. It’s just a fact of life that everyone’s flawed, some more than others.
that profile photo is perfect!
@@artifach thanks))
I'm a largely self taught artist and I have always had the problem that I don't know what I don't know. Constructive criticism is like gold.
I wish ! I love to write. When I share it with people , it is like they are reluctant to offer my critique. Everyone wants to be 'nice '. No one wants to be genuine and kind.I find it so annoying because I know so many changes can be made to what I write.
😂😂youre really funny if that helps
Amen to that and blindly just doing studies (I'm a illustrator) will only get you so far. Knowing how and when to apply what you've practiced is absolutely essential to improving exponentially.
Nothing better than swallowing sandpaper
@@pratishthashukla4325 Okay. Double check things like grammar and the spacing of your punctuation. Also use a variety of pronouns to be less repetitive. That may seem like nit-picking but solid sentence structuring will help your writing flow smoother. The more comfortable a story is to read, the easier it is to become immersed.
Me watching this: “Ha! Those people are idiots!”
Also me: *completely misses the point*
Lol same i always miss the point
I am also the same
Hahaha, I fell you bro
Well U wrote this so u didn't miss it (I know r/woosh) ;-;
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My personal experience has been that highly accomplished people in one field tend to greatly overestimate their competence in other fields, much more so than less accomplished people do. And they also tend to believe that their field of expertise has greater general applicability than it actually does.
the shortest explanation in this video is that incompetent people tend to think they are amazing because they use this as a defense mechanism to feel some relief and temporarily forget their failure truth of what who they really are
I agree! My godfather is a lawyer and he must be a bad one lol because he has given me some of the worst, most time and money and peace of mind consuming „advice“ I ever got. By now I only do small talk with him and I don‘t update him about my life anymore, only about things where he can‘t do any damage.
He thinks he knows EVERYTHING and always better than anyone else. He‘s a major gaslighter and will NEVER not if his life depends on it admit a mistake or say sorry. He‘s above all that and by now I feel kinda sorry for him because his biggest fear must be being incompetent.
The problem is that these ppl DEFINE THEMSELVES through their profession. They don‘t understand that who they are is OUTSIDE OF THE JOB! 😄
Many ppl are like this and I keep them at arm‘s length out of my life.
Their sense of self-importance, -righteousness and -worth ALWAYS comes at the expense of others. And when they are good at gaslighting and manipulating they often do make a good fortune of it.
@@karadiberlino the people who tend to say a lot of these following words:
"who do you think you are?!"
"you think you're special"
"you think yourself as a special being"
"you think you're a god"
"you think you own everything"
"you think that the world revolves around you!!"
"you think you're king/queen"
"you think of yourself a king/queen"
"you think you're handsome/beautiful"
they are likely the ones who is that, for example, when someone calls you a failure and that you think that you are "special" the person who calls you this a few times, is likely that person is him/her the word ones he/she uses to call you because that person is projecting his/her failure to other somebody as a defense mechanism to give themselves a temporary comfort of relief and these words are likely had been also told to them many times in their lifetime
@@karadiberlino the trumpet fight video where a short old man yells angrily at a trumpet player for playing a trumpet where that short old man thinks that he is doing it wrong and should follow his own way to make it "correct" as he assumes and also tells he has no right to play the trumpet because he is "successful" than him and that he met bob dylan in year 1966 and because of this he said that he already "earned" his right to say these words to the trumpet player as he claims, this trumpet fight video is the clearly perfect example for this ted ed video explanation, that trumpet fight video can define and express explanation of this ted ed video by means of showing it in action
Literally Niel Degrasse Tyson
thank god for my crippling anxiety and depression keeping me in check
🤣hug
Best comment
Truth told! Same here.
Ditto! 😳🤯🤪
Insightful and important observation. The uses of anxiety and depression
I'm not a smart man. I have trouble learning and tend to make the same mistakes a couple of times. I tend to procrastinate which leads to trouble and sometimes I take minutes to solve a problem while the solution was there right under my nose.
So I know of myself that I'm definetly not as smart as my mother says I am, but that's okay.
Knowledge and skills can be learned, even if it's at a snail's pace.
;v; I’m very slow as well! this was inspirational. 💕 As you said, it’s alright if we know our mistakes and work towards betterment. Thanks for sharing☺️👍
The fact that you’re aware of it makes you a much better person I guess.
@@jairusenad9333 thank you. A bit of awareness of one's weakness can't hurt. In fact, I feel like it's better to know that you aren't perfect than thinking that you are.
So thank you guys for these reactions. It means a lot to me to know that I'm not the only one who has some trouble with simple things. :D
U sound pretty smart to me
@@loganroark3916 smart and wise are two different things, my friend.
It doesn't help when kids are taught that everyone's a winner, instead of teaching them to lose gracefully, find their flaws, and better themselves.
Preach.
How about teaching them to learn and have independent reasoning, creativity and build on knowledge and facts because losing isnt really a motivation to learn for some ppl
Michele Briere agreed. I grew up thinking winning was always the goal, but when I lose I had no way to cope with it. As a result I never found the value of losing and how it can actually help you improve as a person
Also told they can be anything they want. It’s unrealistic. Yeah you can try but your not guaranteed your dreams.
Oooh, loosing gracefully is something I still don't know. I can find flaws, I admit that I have them, but not being better than someone makes me not do something at all
This is why it's so important to surround ourselves with people who care about us and are willing to point out when we do wrong (professionally and personally)
If you think you know everything then you need to re-evaluate your thinking.
But it's not that I think I know everything. I KNOW I know everything. Big difference there.
/s
I knew that.
I knew you were going to say that
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ for you to think you know everything. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewers head.
And the more you learn, the more you realize you don't know....
I have always wondered why the dumbest people I know have almost super human self-confidence.
Devin Belson either that, or you have a very low self esteem brother
Esteban Garcia you are correct I do not have any esteem for myself. I have esteem for other people Like Elon Musk and Nikola Tesla because I respect and admire them. esteem is something you should have for other people. Self-esteem was created for people that nobody else admired so they found a way to start patting themselves on the back because nobody else would. If you're doing something right you don't have to tell yourself you're awesome because other people will. then if you have to tell yourself you're awesome and have esteem for yourself then there's a reason nobody else is giving it to you, and you should probably look into changing some things in your life.
Devin Belson
It's all relative. Sometimes it's like you're Danny DeVito in a room full of Garry Colemans.
Devin Belson That's the Donald - Kruger effect.
Doesn't matter if you do good, there is enough people that will run with your good work if you don't do it yourself. Nothing wrong with self esteem.
*"we often overestimate our own capabilities,".*
Me with the low self-esteem issues:
*observe.*
Me too ahahah
lol you probably overestimate yourself without realizing it...smh
@@fraist1 probably. it's mostly low expectations. i ruin everything i touch, i just got new tempered glass and broke it in the first week of it being on my phone.
lmao
@@ratticusthewinion try and pick out how you treat the object your holding and if you throw it around like you dont care. then practice and yea problems solved
Delicate egos are to blame. The most humble are the best listeners. Listening means open minded and progression. If the ego is in the way because ‘they think they are all that’ they cannot progress as they will not listen because that means admitting ‘I don’t know’ which in their eyes is a weakness.
Insecure
True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing.
- Socrates
Jon Snow has true knowledge then?
@@jozefkucera8402 I don't know. I'm not into game of thrones.
@John Hillman Socrates drank poison( or κώνειο ) not to escape from any bad marriage but because he was forced to do it by the fellow Greeks and democracy . He wanted to let future generations know what democracy can do .
True knowledge exists in knowing
That literally makes no sense
"The greatest problem for the World is that fools are so cocksure while the wise are filled with doubts."- Bertrand Russell
Tom Strutt so true all though i don't think im really smart at all i do feel like that sometimes
One of my favorites.
So true
true .
What makes it even more complicated is when the highly educated think they're automatically wise. They can become rigid and orthodox in their small sphere of influence, like with the "echo chamber" effect. This causes them to disdain innovation and suppresses critical thinking. Meanwhile, college dropouts sometimes go on to be phenomenal successes because they have a firmer grasp of what people need and how the world really works.
Jokes on you TED-Ed, I’m incompetent and I know it.
trying to outsmart the system
thats incompetent
do you know that?
@@ctleans6326 that is not outsmarting the system, it's a joke, why do you even have that profile pic?
@@ctleans6326 imagine just watching the video and commenting this LMAO
If you know your incompetence, you aren’t that incompetent
Alexandru Necula that is not outsmarting the system, it’s a joke, why do you even have that profile pic?
This is the first video I've seen about the Dunning Kruger effect that took the time to explain how this cognitive bias impacts experts as well as non-experts. Most videos just explain the part about how non-experts lack the expertise needed to recognize their incompetence and leave it at that, but the other side of the coin is equally important.
ted: "how good are you at (x things)?"
me: not good
ted: "well turns out most people overestimate their abilities"
me: well dang. guess im worse than not good
Actually, people that are better are things are more likely to think they’re worse, because they understand enough to know what being “good” means. For example, an expert of climate change might say they don’t know much about the climate, because they have a full understanding of all the things they don’t know.
@@fenhen That's why Donald Trump is phenomenal these days.
George Dunn Or a Real Estate. businessman who things that fact alone would make him an excellent president.
Angry Hippo What are you talking about? No-one in this thread has said that.
@@fenhen Angry Hippo is referring to the people criticizing Trump. He also seems to think you can't criticize the President of the United States unless you think you're qualified to do better.
That's okay, though. Literally anyone in the country is better qualified to be President than Trump.
"Everyone is critical of the flaws of others but blind to their own"
-Arabic Proverb
Take the beam of wood out of your own eye first
Wait ! That makes no sense
Ironic
Im the opposite
Jack Frost speak for yourself
A lot of people in the comments are overrating their incompetence, that is the Kruger-Dunning effect.
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Underrated xd
Yeah but I really am not overrating anything
Isn't it imposter syndrome
As a scientific educated person, I am always stating:“The more you know, the more you recognize, how less you know!“
for sure.
There is always more to learn. I spent 21 years working in the same coatings/adhesive research/development lab. I know a lot, but I make sure I always know I do not know everything. So much to learn....
“As the area of our knowledge grows, so too does the perimeter of our ignorance” -Neil deGrasse Tyson. Sounds very similar
Hmm … although, your grammar IS still a bit lacking. And, it’s ‘… how little you know’.😉✌️
I watched this TED-Ed and the TED-Ed on "Imposter Syndrome" back to back and now I have no idea what to think.
😆
The takeaway is that most people suffering from imposter syndrome are not in that bottom group. They're educated enough that they realise there's a significant amount they don't know. They may, however, fail to realise that many people around them may be in the same position.
dude same :(
😂😂
@@v_isforvictory9366 And there's no definition of who is a scientist.
"Ask for feedback from other people, and *consider* it, even if it's hard to hear"
I think that's something that a lot of us lack. Is being able to take criticism. We either will write off the other person as not knowing what they're doing so why should we listen, or we feel so hurt that we double down and refuse to admit we're wrong. I know I had this problem for the majority of my life because as you said, I wasn't skilled enough to see what I was even lacking to begin with. But through adventuring out and pursing my dreams and comparing myself to people I truly admired, I was able to see I wasn't up to par. By asking more questions and realizing that I wasn't as great as I thought I was, I was able to humble myself and recognize that there's so much I need to learn.
In turn though, it did make my self inflated confidence go away. Now I'm a bit self conscious because now I am so aware of how much I lack, and that paradigm shift is very interesting to me. It's a little heart breaking, but it's also enlightening. I much prefer who I am now than who I once was =)
Fuckin' A. Well put.
The thing i tht annoys me most is when people will insult others when they are wrong in an attempt to humble them instead of just saying what the over-confident person does not know and leaving it at that.
I feel the opposite. People are terrible at giving criticism. They almost always wait until they’re upset to do it, or try to frame it manipulatively or dishonestly. I actively want criticism, but I can’t seek it out for fear that I’ll lead to people taking advantage and feeling comfortable making me uncomfortable:
@@keenanmccarty9925 ur scared of feeling uncomfortable? Hey look everyone we've got a snowflake = "derogatory, informal An overly sensitive or easily offended person, or one who believes they are entitled to special treatment on account of their supposedly unique characteristics"
ThePopushi This is what I’m trying to get to, this mindset. This perspective. Sometimes I have a hard time with that but I always try to consider after or think and ask.
Plot Twist: Psychologists Dunning and Kruger are overestimating their abilities to judge human behaviours.
But in a funny way, wouldn't this double negative cancels each other out and form a positive?
So they are still in a sense, correct?
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Yes, but it's severity and reach would appear to be far higher than it actually is
Mind blown!
that's why they use the scientific method of evaluation
Boom roasted
I think this is a survival mechanism left over from prehistoric times. If you are out and about, scavenging and gathering, dealing with predators and mega fauna, having an ultra realistic view of your capabilities could cause you to hesitate taking the chances you need to take to survive (not crossing a river, not hunting a big animal, not climbing an obstacle) So, having an unrealistic view, or at least pushing the envelope, allows you to survive. Of course, if you happen to fatally overestimate your abilities your genes stop right there but on the average the over estimators do well enough to skew the gene pool in that direction.
reptile brain has a stranglehold over sentience and critical thought can counterbalance it mayhaps. Though I am pretty sure microbiology does the same things as humans just more efficiently and without less collateral damage.
holy f, how long are your sentences.
@@sauravhansda3925 Not overly long?
@@chesscomsupport8689 overly?
@@jordanmcintyre4165 what do you mean by "reptile brain"?
I experienced this with art. When I began to understand the basics of painting, I thought, "Wow, I'm talented in this" not because of being boastful but because I think I really did such a good job in my paintings. But after several months, I got to the point of wanting to just stop it all because of all the mistakes I see. I realized I wasn't as good as I thought I was. But, I didn't stop. I actually am painting while listening to this video haha and just stopped for a min to comment. I took my incapacities as motivations to practice more.
The same happenned to me. But, even with bad drawings and such, I didn't stop because doing art is very fun. Anyways, happy painting!
good mindset
I don't know if art would apply cause you can't really be right or wrong in art it's mostly subjective
@@spilledsoju03 uh no there are so many things that you can do wrong in art unless you're talking about abstract lol
Back in the day, our band recorded two songs and we thought they were the best things we’d ever heard. Four years later, one of our mothers played the songs back to us. I’ve never been so embarrassed. One guy was covering his eyes as he listened…lol…another left the room. Compared to what we had just recorded in a studio, that first effort was at best, amateurish…lol.
Noobs: Think they are pros.
Pros: Think other people are pros.
Seems to work out.
So relatable
You simply explained the 5 min vid in a 2 sentence.
Noobs want to be pros.
Pros alway call everybody noobs. What world do you live in
@@alex_poly1147 The real question is what world do YOU live in :P
@@chopinfrederic5040 the reality is that there is no competition in who is the smartest. Only servival. So this is all based on a world with competition. If it was all about results, the use of your abilities are more likely to thrive ,compared to be searching for competition so you are able to be somebody with alot of money, so you can eventually survive.
The fact that I know I'm incompetent in many areas and am able to recognize this, makes me feel a little better about myself...
Or is that boost of self-esteem just my incompetence not recognizing itself?
That's some paradox.
Thinking you're incompetent could possibly mean you're undervaluing yourself but then in turn thinking you're therefore competent could possibly mean you're overestimating yourself. I guess it's best therefore to meet in the middle and just think of yourself as average.
That's fair
Think what you like it doesn’t matter anyway and that’s not a bad thing
Alistocrat ..that's better than the opposite. At least you won't be an annoying know-it-all and you will more likely take the opportunity to learn from your incompetence.
Alistocrat i constantly think about this and it makes me anxious
Professor Dunning was one of my favorite professors at Cornell. I still think about his teachings a lot when educating residents and interacting with my colleagues!
Cornell?!
Carl Sagan was a major ‘member’ there! His original version of ‘COSMOS’ was EPIC. He even met Neil DeGrasse Tyson when he was coming up in the academic community!
I've found that I'm really good at evaluating my abilities. Probably one of the best, in fact.
pRoVe It RiGhT nOw
wait hol up im actually dying right now that's definitely getting saved
Me too, that's why I pay so many people to do things I'm not knowledgable in.
youtube /woooosh
Benji B. Lol
To know you are not so good at something, is actually a great ability
Too true!
rewer I am so, SO unbelievably good at knowing I'm not good at stuff ;)
that is called knowing your limitations
“I know that i am intelligent,because that i know nothing”-Socrates
so, if someone think they're good because doesn't know they're not good, does someone actually good?
_Hey RUclips algorithm, what do you wanna tell me ?_ 😶
Ronak Macwan Do you want the honest or the nice answer? :P
Easy, nice and honest answer is, don't be arrogant, don't be OVER confident of yourself. Don't go over to the other extreme either and hate yourself to depression.
I'm the most incompetent human in the world. In my 50 years in life, I've done nothing useful.
gaklimited
Oh don’t be too harsh on yourself! I’m sure there are people a lot more useless than you! So cheer up! At least you’re not a heaven’s gate member or something...
you're like jon snow
Its for sure true, I think a big part of it is. When a person applies them self to something, they realize just how much there is to learn and how far away they are from experts. But the people who never apply themselves to that thing, will only assess their ability based on ignorance
Intelligent people are always questioning themselves, while idiots are always very sure of themselves. So true!
Was in a round of debates with a guy that said he was always right becouse he was a Liberal. It did not turn out well for him.
You cant achieve anything if you don't believe in yourself and have confidence in your abilities. This is why many people in leadership positions have ''type A personalities'' for lack of a better word.
Ingles Verde Mar I don't think I'm particularly intelligent, but I do question myself all the time. I don't suffer from low self esteem though, in case it sounds like I do 😀 I make lots of mistakes and don't have a problem saying sorry, so I like to think I have a healthy level of self acceptance 😀
Not true. People occasionally question themselves. Questioning yourself all the time without ever being too sure of yourself is just a highway down. There has to be healthy balance. Everyone has to be bold at some point.
V Joshua Stock
"Always" is likely meant in a non-absolute sense.
As someone who has worked in customer service for 6 years, I can affirm this. Customers always think that they know better than me about the field I have been handling for that time and will constantly try to argue even when I explain (as tactfully as possible) why they are wrong.
You mean "confirm." It's not your statement to affirm, it's someone else's that you may confirm.
I know a plummer that loves being told that a job a customer wants done, is real easy and will only take a few minutes, when hes on the phone with the person, like why are you even calling me then?
@@B3Band yes, I meant "confirm". Autocorrect does the stupidest things sometimes 🤣
@@anomilumiimulimona2924 there are customers who call in to ask a question and then argue against they answer they are given. If they think they have the correct answer, why are they even calling in to ask in the first place?
@@silentsmurf A lot of the time they just want confirmation of what they think.
I absolutely know my limitations, and it really annoys me when someone says I just need more self esteem, lol, (I'm fine thanks). Then they put me in a scenario I warned them about (anything to do with numbers) and then they have to rescue the whole situation. If they'd just listen in the first place. But when I'm good at something (garden planning and restructuring and planting schemes) they don't listen and I have to step back and watch everything die. People are too much for me. They don't have any sense.
This comment is hilarious. especially the last line 😂😂😂😂😂
Divide that labour, you garden and get an accountant!
just learn how to properly convince people
@@davideizzo2683 it's hard, like the video
says: many of them overexaggerate their own abilities
I agree.
As a middle school teacher, this definitely drew my attention.
you shouldve known this before becoming a teacher !
@@harmez7 I did. Thankfully, I'm one of the highest paid teachers in the U.S. and I work with a great demographic.
Smart is admitting when you’re wrong, then learn
Yes! Absolutely correct!
Both my wife & Mother-in-law have never once been wrong or made a mistake.
John Moore they are the exception to the rule
Nona Boccalupo, Don’t take it so serious.
Have you paid attention to this presentation? The problem is not admitting when you are wrong, most people do that. The problem is that some people do not know enough to realize that they are wrong, spot their mistakes, learn from them, etc.
Scary how accurate this is.
yeah :C
well if it was true you wouldn't make this comment
Exactly. There's a social gain to this attitude
Scary how right you are
ٍScary how I agree with you
Basically we should be humble
Yeah bottom line. Yet I am still frustrated at how many people can't do their job. I always do mine well but find myself always getting let go.
I'm humblier than you ))
@@IgorDz r/humblebragging
@@jimbig3997 Do your bosses agree with your job performance self assessment?
@@OneFingerYT Lately yes, performance has never been my issue. When I was younger I've been let go for the performance excuse but there was always more behind it, usually I made an easy target for someone to stick a knife in my back. I didn't play office politics too well I guess. I'm an engineer in IT so part of it is the industry for sure, but business is political and it's always been that way.
Anyway my point wasn't even about me. Look at the world: Isn't it frustrating how many people can't do their jobs yet they have one?
I think it’s important to remember an idea we all have heard or performed, “fake it til you make it” which unfortunately creates room for people incompetent to succeed somehow in what they are incompetent by just getting by or having so much confidence that it works. Creating a “I can get by with bare minimum, or I must actually be really good” mentality that stops their growth and keeps them thinking they’re perfectly fine where they’re at. This happened a lot in school for me when I passed tests by barely studying or winning the teacher over with a sense of humor rather than doing well in class. I find myself doing similar tactics when applying for jobs etc and when I hear no, its like what did I expect? lol
This explains why people of every generation thinks their generation is the best
Yep
True
Personally, I think my generation is pathetic lol. The only generation more pathetic than millennials is the boomers. Easy times make weak people, and no one had it easier than the boomers.
@@Aubatron the saddest gen is gen z/alpha
The DKE is a cognitive bias in which people overestimate their ability at a task and so doesn’t explain opinions on which generation is best. If your comment was a joke, you have overestimated your ability to be funny.
This was in my recommended
What are trying to tell me RUclips?
Michael Bush MELTTT SNOWWW
Hmm.. That's exactly why this video was recommended for you
😅
Same
like terrible grammar?lel
This is why the advice “just be confident” always irked me. I’d rather be wholly competent than superficially confident.
Aka "Fake it til you make it"
@@Rayhaku808 that’s the exact opposite of my philosophy.
@@Rayhaku808 Fake it til you BECOME it
@@Rayhaku808 Yeah, Ive never really agreed with the whole Fake it till you make it mindset
Umk
I hear so much about this Dunning-Kruger Effect... but I think there's a phenomenon that's even more critical & somewhat the opposite of D-K Effect: How a great many people UNDER estimate their abilities & potential & consequently limit their success & satisfaction in life. One example is ppl who think they don't have the "talent" to draw. In reality, almost anyone can learn to draw to a competent, even high, level. You can teach the basics of drawing over a weekend. Subsequent skill level attained depends on practice. There are countless areas & skills where a lot of us underestimate our potential.
As someone who can't draw. I mean I can't draw anything. I mean I am quite special and exceptional in my inability to draw. I failed a drawing assignment in Kindergarten, type of bad. I think you might have the expert bias of thinking everyone else should be able to do it.
I've heard a different version of the end quote, but it's still thematically relevant.
"When you play chess with a pigeon, it's just gonna poop on the board and strut around like it won."
Yes Sir! LOL
XOXO 🤣🤣🤣
But I got the pigeon in a stalemate. He’s a good player!
@@birdyghostly 🤣🤣💕
@@birdyghostly He was playing for bread crumbs. What did you win?
Hey guys if you already feel like you're incompetent, you're probably not. After all, the video explains that people with moderate skills or people who are average feel the exact same way. It's the incompetent people who are brimming with confidence ;) don't let this video take away the last few drops of your confidence, you need all you can get at this point! Just stay humble, learn as much as you can, and keep on evaluating yourself. Constantly growing as a person no matter how old you are is better than shrinking :)
I don't know man, typically I should be levels above where I am presently, and it stings. Feels as if constantly just behind where I should be in my career/goal prospects.
Who would win in a fight, Dunning-Kruger Effect, or Impostor Syndrome?
I can be both at the same time. That's how skilled to be unskilled i am. 😏👉👉
I feel imposter syndrom is just a sub-part of Dunning-Kurger effect. About experts not knowing they are that good.
They hit in a different spots in learning progression. Dunning-Kruger effect is stronger in beginners. Imposter syndrome is stronger in the middle of the Dunning-Kruger curve - those who know that there is much they don't know.
whoever's voice this is and narrates most of the ted ed voices is amazing
"The ancient Oracle said that I was the wisest of all the Greeks. It is because I alone, of all the Greeks, know that I know nothing"
-Socrates
And thats not everything so he is not the wisest
Oracle of Delphi?
Ur post is better than this whole video.
Wow never heard the entire quote. If it is like this and said by Socrates I lost all respect for him. Douchey suffering from a real case of Dunning-Kruegger
@@deivisony it's true though, the more you know you realize you don't know. instead of maybe thinking that everyone else is the same level, you're just constantly aware that there are many better than you.
This is really dangerous: thinking you're capable when you are not.
Now if you can only get Trump to understand that.
Tell that to every aMurican
@@Superman679 Don’t you feel special?
It will be the proximate cause of our collective downfall.
These are the people having children.
"We frequently overestimate our own abilities"
*Me, suffering from chronic low self-esteem and low confidence all around* : Huh?
whats the difference from low self-esteem and low low confidence
@@joejacko1587 Low self-esteem means you don't think of _yourself_ as being very valuable and low self-confidence means you don't feel comfortable _performing_ certain tasks, usually from being afraid of being _observed_ failing at them in front of others.
You can have one without the other or one in greater severity than the other, but they do often go hand in hand.
Self-esteem is an ability now, is it?
"I know I'm a very skilled self esteemer. I've been self esteeming since an early age and last year, my self esTEAM made the play-offs. We came second though. The other team just out esteemed us on the day, unfortunately."
Now notice how the above makes SFA sense... 😂
Same
@@joejacko1587 Not much.
i counter the DK effect by having a mediocre depression, keeps my self-estamation pretty realistic. no matter how good i am at anything my brain literally is like "you could be way better if you would actually be talented at anything at all"
hmm yes the floor is made out of floor
It took me 30 years to realize no one is “created equal”. Just because it’s easy for you to do does not mean it is easy for others. And no one is perfect!! No single human knows all there is to know on any one subject.
Yes, and it's often the arrogance of certain experts who look down on people who don't have exactly that certain knowledge or skill they have themselves.
I can readily do math in my head a lot of people can’t do on paper. I’ve been climbing almost 5 years now, and last night I found a couple beginners not even climbing a month yet (not even earned belay certification) readily enough climbing at a difficulty level it’s taken me years to accomplish, but, hey, I expect they can’t do the math that I do in my head ;)
I learned decades ago that I have things I can do readily that many people don’t even comprehend, and also there are things that many do without meaningful thought and effort that cause me no end of frustration trying to keep up, that aren’t necessarily “deep thought” types of things. My strategy is to figure out what’s worth my bother of what’s hard to do that I spend my time/effort on for whatever reason, but if, after spending enough time/effort on something and it’s harder than I value it to be, I find something else to try instead, and trade what I can most profitably do (if such a concept applies) to get things I can’t so readily do. This, to me, feels far more logical: why should everyone follow the insane advice “You can do it, if you try, everyone can do it!” when evidence says it’s really not so?
Well I guess you're incredibly slow then
Is the implication here that you are highly capable? 🤔
@@minnievenkat that certainly seems to be the case.
Ooooh that explains why some people go on Americas got talent just to get humiliated
Fluffy Hammy Partially that is.
It's probably not their fault. They likely have friends and family who are too nice to say they can't sing.
+Fluffy Hammy AAAAYE I LIKE YOUR PROFILE PIC
Nirvana YASSSSSSSSS
Everything is scripted. They all know ya the beginning when they sign on who will win an who will know for shows like that. The winner is predetermined, and it’s structured in a way to gather the most views. EVERYTHING ON TV IS FAKE.
Dunning and Kruger must've had a traumatizing group project once.
lmao
anyone who hasn't had a traumatizing group project; did the traumatizing
If someone tries to collect a debt from Freddie the Sleep-Demon, and sends letters warning Freedie that his credit rating will suffer if he doesn't pay up, is the creditor ... [drum roll, please] ... is the creditor DUNNING KRUGER????
I learned about the Dunning-Kruger Effect a long time ago. And i realized how vitally important it is to understand. To understand what it is, and what causes it. They should start teaching this in Grammar-School. (as well as mindfulness & meditation). The world would be a very different, much better place.
The government and institutions are not interested in actually moving the human race forward. What they and the majority of people care about is making life easier.
I think the example where the software engineers were asked to rate themselves by the company, there is pressure to rate yourself highly so that you get promoted and get raises. I'm not sure that's the best example. I think the other ones are better.
Exactly, you just can't call yourself a bad employee even if you know the truth😂😂
There's a bigger pt here that they made.
How do you "measure" a good Software Engineer anyway? Definitely can't do it by lines written, and it's hard to quantify individual problems against others. So how?
A second aspect is that it's a self evaluation, you can rightfully prioritize your own qualities
@@spiderbubble They did not need to measure their abilities, as the question that was asked was "whether their own abilities, were in the top 5% in the company".
I guess the scientists just wanted to know if the resulting percentage of those that graded themselves to be inside of that range was close to 5%, which is the case where their judgement would have been accurate to the predefinition of the original question.
Do I know a lot? No
Do I acknowledge that I'm incompetent at many things? Yes
Am I gonna do something about it? No
I hate that I relate to this so much.
@@sonnyhuimingzhou418 me too friend... Me too
Believe
Bruh
You've already acknowledged that you question yourself, that's one step further than the worst offenders .
I know because I have watched a video on RUclips about Dunning Kruger effect, therefore I am an expert on the topic
I once read the three hardest things for a person to judge about themself impartially are: intelligence, creativity, and physical attractiveness
"People tend to overestimate their abilities."
Me: I'm pretty sure I can open this jar of mayonnaise.
ruclips.net/video/sMG1nlQi5bg/видео.html . .
Use rubber gloves. Done.
If it's a glass jar, break the seal with a spoon and pry the lid until it pops.
If you're careful, you can bang it upside down on a book or magazine (not a hard marble, concrete type of counter). Make sure it's even when you do that.
Don't use a knife to pry. They can break.
I feel that if you have a whole jar of mayonnaise in your life at all you might have other problems?
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 thx for the advice.
🤣🤣🤣
This explains so much especially in today’s world
Especially the comment sections.
The Whole Food Plant Based Cooking Show I agree, taking out the 'today's world' part, because this was true a hundred years ago.
^Exactly. It's just that social media puts the incompetent people on blast.
Okay you do see the irony in that comment, right?
A lot of youtubers suffers from this syndrome
Knowledge is like a flame amidst darkness, the more it grows, the more darkness you realize encompasses you.
Bill Cosby In what way? If a flame is small the circumference is very small thus leading you to think there may not be much, but as it gets bigger so does the circumference which leads to you knowing the area of darkness which encompasses you is greater than initially thought. You have to put yourself in the situation as if you are in the light and know nothing else, similar to a Plato's closet type of metaphor. I am curious as to you scientific explanation so feel free to share, I'm sure it would be interesting to hear a different perspective.
If you are metaphorically referring to knowledge as a flame, it appears erroneous to say that more knowledge would culminate in more darkness surrounding you. The discrepancy between how knowledge is represented (a flame amidst darkness), in contrast to the acquisition of further knowledge (more darkness) somehow contradicts itself. If knowledge were to be metaphorically represented by the flame, more knowledge should not be likened to darkness, as utilizing two completely different, borderline contrasting objects to symbolize the same thing is incorrect. In my view, a much more appropriate method to liken the concept of ever growing knowledge and a metaphor to represent it would be to state that the flame amidst darkness is represented as your confidence in understanding the world. In such case, we would then be able to convey that the more knowledge you acquire, the more less-confident you would become in understanding the world (thus resulting in more darkness engulfing the flame, which is represented by one's confidence in its own expertise).
I'm sorry but I think you are overestimating your ability to create methaphors, or at least to explain it,Jake one was good, increase the radius of the circle and you realize there's always more area of things you don't know simple as that, and lots of scientist agree of that realization
Yea I can kind of see where you are coming from and that is probably because I did not provide any perspective for you to look at the metaphor. First off you can not view this situation with omnipotence, you have to force yourself into a mindset of complete ignorance. Second, this only takes place in two dimensions so if you are imagining this in your head from a top down view where you can see the area of the darkness and light then stop. Now if you put yourself in the scenario as a little two dimensional stick figure the "darkness" does not appear as an area, it only appears as a line which encompasses you, lets call this our horizon. So if the circle we are in (our knowledge) continues to expand that means our horizon (what we do not know) is also expanding. Therefore the more we know, the more we realize we do not know. I hope this made sense!
I interpreted the metaphor utilizing a mental picture in my mind ( literally flame amidst darkness) and therefore altered the perspective proposed by your metaphor.
Thanks for the clarification.
I learned about the Dunning-Kruger effect about 12 years ago, and ever since then, have realized that it's ok not to think of myself as being "really good" at what I thought I was really good at doing (I thought I was really good at crocheting, for example, only to finally realize that I'm actually just average). It's a very liberating thing, really, because it gives me a lot of room and freedom to grow.
@person person I relate to this. Now i can't even admit to myself that I'm actually good at something because in my head there's a thought that I'm just experiencing the Dunning-Krueger effect and that i want to avoid it. It's exhausting
@person person As someone with imposter syndrome I concur. Though arrogance is pretty bad.
Yes..Mom. Your skill in crochet far exceeds those of us reaching out to your crocheting mastery. Remember, as you taught us while learning the box stitch over butter cookies and tea, there is always a greater. Do not fall into despair Sensei. What will we ever do? All this free time? Shall we self-loathe too? OOOOH. Flagellation, flagellation, flagellation! Come on please, I love a good flagellation. Use the one like the one used in that movie The Passion. That thing is badass!
Yes, but I think most of our self-assessments are done with an understanding of how far we've come, on our terms. So for instance, you probably ARE 'really good' at crocheting -- better than a beginner, and better than some that haven't attempted your particular projects. Better than you were in the past. That relative improvement, that progress towards mastery, does mean something. I bet you ARE really good at crochet : )
@@michaeldefeo3030 cringe
*"The problem isn't that Johnny can't read. The problem isn't even that Johnny can't think.*
*The problem is that Johnny doesn't know what thinking is. He confuses it with feeling."*
_- Thomas Sowell_
I have never heard of Thomas Sowell the American economist & social theorist. But being the expert he is, it seems his very act of making such a remark about Johnny is falling in line with the observations that the Dunning Kruger effects observed regarding experts. What "Johnny is feeling" is a result of his thought-process after he had finish thinking, without which Johnny cannot ultimately have such feeling, kinda like set & subset in mathematical terms. If Thomas Sowell is a relationship-expert, would he then be saying that women often confuses what they are feeling as what they are thinking? Perhaps Thomas was really thinking of Jenny instead of Johnny when he was making his statement? ;p
Johnny sins?
Johnny was teached in our tipe of educational system.
@@BTjs321456 Maybe Jhonny is brain-dead and can only feel temperature, touch etc.
@@BTjs321456 Perhaps your highly-emotionally-charged reaction and long-winded response are evidence of Sowell being entirely correct, JOHNNY! (And they are!)
So the next time you think you did good at something remember that you’re probably over estimating yourself and that you’re actually terrible.
I am terrible Clorox, now let me have a drink.
Clorox Bleach that's the pessimistic approach.
Hahahha
Clorox Bleach THE SNOW
Clorox Bleach my trophy says I was less terrible then everyone else. Or does that make me the worst at being terrible?
Overestimating others and seeing them not come into that standard is a sign that you might be more intelligent but not intelligent enough to remember that people have limits
That's because intelligent people also have limits of trying to remember who knows what so they either keep treating everybody as the same level as them (or look down on everybody equally -> these are just arrogant ppl) or eventually learn to just not share until they sense like-minded people.
One of the smartest things you can know is the extent of your own ignorance.
@Dark Fire what people think about you means as much as any gratuitous, patronizing "pep talk" that I can give you. Your worth comes from inside. That's why it's called "SELF esteem". Focus on your goals in life and how you can add the most value to your life, the lives of those you care about and to the world as a whole. If you can do that, you will find yourself surrounded by people who truly love you, or at the very least you can die leaving a net positive, which makes you a better person than anyone who has ever put you down. I have been wrong before though, so take that with a grain of salt. Good luck to you in your journey!
@Dark Fire You need professional help. Your brain chemistry is most likely off.
@Dark Fire That's how it works if it's untreated.
That's just self-reflection. Something simple that is missing from many people unfortunately.
@Dark Fire This may or may not be comforting to you depending on what you believe, but Jesus loves you. Even if it seems the whole world hates you, the Creator of the universe loves you. :) I mean unless this is a bot because I can't usually tell if a RUclips comment is a bot or not... anyway, if you are a real person, there still is hope :>
"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing." ~ Socrates
Zaxor Von Skyler
But Socrates knew a substantial amount. We don't know everything, but we know something.
I believe the saying is a sense of Humbleness, "I might be an expert, but I have much to learn".
"Nobody knows anything, but I, knowing nothing, am the smartest man in the world." ~ Socrates
What I got is that we can only perceive what we think we know through our senses, which may be detecting a mere illusion of reality.
So thinking you know more than nothing is ignorance and that he's come to understand that there's no possible way to perceiving the true reality, which makes him the wisest.
I know how to breathe though, and that's something. But I don't know much xD
Ferret Unknown, breathing isn't something you learn, your body does it naturally since the day you were born.
Our culture is biased toward those whom project confidence. We place a high value on confidence, as if those lacking it are mentally and emotionally weak and should be dismissed. But how many times have you heard a leader confidently proclaim victory when it is obvious they have utterly failed? I discovered long ago that many idiots are supremely confident while simultaneously screwing up nearly everything they touch. Therefore, you should be extremely skeptical of anyone who expresses faith and confidence in a successful outcome, even though they are unable to provide little or no specific information on how a specific objective will be achieved. Confidence is the domain of fools, and confidence alone is never a replacement for competence. Challenging someone's confident declarations is necessary to assure success. Although it does not make us feel good, objective skepticism does far to accomplish successful outcomes than simple minded confidence.
Good point.
You’re totally confused with arrogance, not confidence. Confidence only exists after competence is stable and flourishing.
Objective skepticism. That's a good point.
"Mission accomplished" - George W. Bush, 2003 -
Did you use 'whom' to impress? If you did, you failed. It should be 'who'.
I know there is always someone, more skilled than me in the world. So I keep myself open to learn, because skills can very well be enhanced.
"The more I learn, the less I know."
Exactly
You mean you now know how much more there is to know.
The more you learn, the more you know.
The more you know , the more you forget.
The more you forget, the less you know.
The less you know, the more you learn.
*The more you know.*
goldenthroat86 I never self asses straight away I always give it an overall look beforehand.
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I think this is human nature. Like when I was first learning how to paint, when I got to a point where I was starting to get happy with what I was producing, I started wanting to paint for everyone. years later I realized those earlier works sucked. It's similar with little kids, as soon as they learn a little bit about life, they suddenly think they know everything.
There are also statistics involved I bet. For example, everyday I see a wreck on the side of the road, but I've never been in one, so it makes me think I'm a better driver than most. But that's because the wrecks stand out to me, whereas I'm not taking into account all of the drivers that also didn't get into a wreck.
Nope.
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I love doubting myself, it helps me keep learning and striving to do better. And at some point we have to try believing in ourselves and trust our own ability by reviewing past feedbacks and life experiences.
doubting oneself is actually healthy and a sign of being competent, thinking you're completely incompetent however, is not as healthy.
Jacinda Lacroix This! IMO it has nothing to do with low self-esteem which has such a negative touch to it.
I feel like, this thing about overestimating oneself has grown because society has built a culture where one must have a huge ego to sustain, both in professional and personal lives. People don’t have a choice but to overestimate themselves because we have built a system where the definition of success means,you gotta be on the top,which means others are below you.
Very good words thank you for sharing
No one in a software company will rate themselves poorly in a competitive work enviroment
Couch Cheese Exactly! Most people do constantly criticize themselves on the inside.
Vi H, yeah but you could never be sure of the anonymity, especially if you work in IT.
No one in a software company will rate themselves poorly in a competitive *male-dominated work environment.
I would imagine the study was done outside of the work environment. Obviously the study would be flawed if the participants had any worry about their responses being shown to their employer.
Me: "Actually my singing voice isn't that bad!"
RUclips:
Your singing voice is still probably better than mine TBH
**cries**
AGT
Ok
Me: **draws something decent** Oh wow this looks good!
Looks at art on pinterest, me: Oh ok. But people practiced a lot, they look like experts.
Looks at art on youtube, me: Oh oh ok. They are very talented indeed. I may do something like this with practice. My art dosen't look that bad... Does it?
Sees this video, me: **breaks the paper** Never... Again...
On the bright side it could be modern art!
Posts art: **no one cares about it** Oh ok... **delete art then cryes to sleep**
This is less of a problem when you go into more and more detail. So instead of asking how good are you at driving? Ask, how good are you at parking, at staying at a constant speed, at following road rules, about knowing the laws, about knowing emergency maneuvers, knowing about car maintenance, knowing what signs means, and so on. You are less likely to say you are great at everything, and you might hit some stuff and be like, "what car maintenance, I don't know anything about that." You don't know you have to change the oil in the car every so often? Well how great of a driver are you? If you are asking yourself the questions, and find you can't think of any in-depth details, then maybe you need to rethink the entire thing.
I think that is kind of the point, if you don't know enough, you might not even ask about car maintenance. If you ask all these details, then you are in the gap they explained in the video, when you know enough to recognize what you don't know.
+Lilitha11, that is the whole point of this phenomenon. When you are the "expert" you ask your self all those questions when you assess your self in the broad topic, but tend to also assume others do as well; when you are not you don't ask those sub-questions because you don't think they apply. It is a very interesting phenomenon.
Or we just blaim the Asians.
The Kosch . people
People have asked me why I seem to do so well at trivia and game shows like Jeopardy. My asnswer is know what you don't know.
We keep to ourselves.. nothing like the feeling of being incompetent
True
I have found that there are 4 levels of skill:
1. Beginner: knows nothing and knows they know nothing - safe
2. Learner: knows a little and thinks they know a lot - dangerous (most people)
3. Advanced: knows enough to know they need to know more - safe
4. Expert: knows a lot and knows what is required - safe
I want to believe I am (and aim to be lol) advanced in certain things. Wanting to know more but knowing enough to know that is an interesting concept compared to beginner (which I remember being).
When you start doubting your own ability or knowledge in something that you previously felt pretty confident in, that means you're learning about what you don't know, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that that makes you safe. You can still be dangerous in that mode
Oh, I disagree. As pointed out in the video, experts tend to be good at judging their own capability, but can make assumptions about other people's.
I've had experts imagine that beginners/learners will intuitively understand certain aspects of process and safety. This is not the case and was certainly very very not safe.
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Ok
I think I'm amazing at recognizing when I'm not amazing at something.
Wait...
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Damn you kurt godel. Stop collapsing my confidence with paradoxes.
i think that'd rather be "aware of sth"
I was always told you should try to learn at least one new thing everyday. I've been doing that for decades. It's amazing how much as a people , we really don't know anything about. I learn a lot from this channel. Thanks for that.
You must have the information worth of 50 Wikipedias stored in your brain from that
I rlly don't get how the new generation is dumber while they could literally read their double life span of experience in less than a minute
@@moh6734 I know from granddaughters 16 and 21 that learning doesn't seem to be a priority. With them it's all about being popular and having friends. Neither of them like to read or even watch documentaries on really interesting things.
@@Shari466 I mean if it's their choice be it but they should learn to listen atleast
@@Shari466 mm as a teenager I know where this comes from, when you are popular around your friends it gives a huge boost to self esteem and confidence, which makes them want to do it more
But this only works until the learning part of their life ends, when they start the working part it goes downhill
Every now and then a video about this effect comes up and reminds you that you are very likely not as good as you think, and it is humbling
Gonna send this video to my boss.
I'm already picking out cardboard boxes to sleep in just in case.
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Hahahahahahahah
Goodluck man
How did it go? Lol
I also immediately thought of a couple team leaders in our office 😂