@@djekdozovitch3679 When Freddy got his full rework which gave him no Weakness. Chase: Snare Pool Map Pressure: Teleport to uncompleted Gen. Oblivious would also Turn Off the Borrowed Time, because you need to be in a Terror Radius to use it. So it made SUPER EASY to just hit the Saver to turn it off and Tunnel the other person instantly.
My favourite meme was always "it has come to our attention that (insert killer here) has been made far too powerful and as a result we decided to nerf the pig"
Lol so it's the decade old "better nerf irelia" meme from League of Legends. She was in the same boat. *insert random champion here* has been outperforming her lane opponents, and as a result we have nerfed irelias attack damage.
We have noticed that Amanda has never used a reverse bear trap on others but herself so now Amanda start with a reverse bear trap which activates when the Pig has moved from the spawn. When the Pig successfully hits a survivor, the trap snaps
We should've known what was coming when Amanda's irl actress Shawnee Smith stated how saddened she was that they didn't even contact her to make voice work
Yep, they don't get ANY of the real actors except in one single case, Ashe Williams. Still true even to this day, DC Douglas was not contacted to voice Wesker, and none of the RE Survivors are voiced by their original voice actors.
BHVR: "We've listened to your feedback and we've decided to make some changes to Pig following the reassurance nerf. In this patch Pig will now be capable of getting knocked unconscious after a successful pallet stun."
"We are aware of the cheating problem and sincerely apologize about not making any announce any of the counter measure that we prepare for it. Thats why the final conclusion is to nerf the pig, thank you for the feedback "
The next update patch notes are gonna be like. -Added Sadako jiggle physics. -Removed The Pig's attacks. -Removed The Pig's reverse bear traps. -When playing The Pig, all generators are now completed at the start of the game.
"We have decided to buff the Pig, a long waited change. Now, when a survivor disarms a reverse bear trap, they can instead trap the pig, starting her timer and forcing her to go disarm it. If a pig gets stunned by a pallet, the survivors can work together to pick up the Pig and hook her, instantly winning the game.
Didn't Pig have like one of the highest kill rates at one point as a result of the majority of casual players not understanding how her trap mechanic works? Since Bhvr has shown time and time again that they don't play their own game and only balance around statistics this would explain why Pig was nerfed so heavily and for example Nurse wasn't. Nurse is after all the killer with the lowest overall kill rate to this day. Also can we talk about the background gameplay? What the actual fuck were those survivors doing lol
background gameplay: 50/50 if its competent players or people like in the vid ever since the latest mmr change. and yes, bhvr bases buffs and nerfs almost entirely about stats(with some things such as dead hard clearly being a favorite of a dev, considering the time that nerf took) pig's very much a noobstomper killer and, since it's an m1 killer, is barely different from what killer players are used to. nurse meanwhile has the highest skillfloor(not skillceiling, as alot of people like to say, that role would imo be taken by hillbilly), since not being at least somewhat capable with her power results in a guaranteed loss, resulting in players new to her drastically decreasing the killrate
@@dumblenutz5561 i do say blink recharge addons are far more busted than the range addons and i want them removed, since they remove the only limitation nurse has in killing which is downtimes between blinks, with both recharge addons you can just play pre-rework nurse and blink 24/7 and survivors cant make distance at all even if you miss.
@@marcuso7350 survivors can't make distance at all with range either, and it also allows her to jumpscare people by blinking half the map whilist synergizing with starstruck. She also is faster during the blink. I'd say they're stronger for those reasons.
As a newer player (2021) I never knew that Pig's traps used to activate when EGC started and all that. That makes so much sense as to why her power feels kinda "empty" at endgame.
11:33 You mentioned that they abandoned their ‘design philosophy’ when they released Sadako with 115% 24m Terror Radius, and Wesker with 115% 40m. But they did that even earlier - Deathslinger moves at 110%, with a 32m terror radius.
Deathslinger is kind of an exception since he did release with a 24m terror radius and had it for over year until they nerfed it to 32m because they didn't like that you could run it with monitor to sneak up on survivors and give them little time to react. Ironically during this time slinger was a better stealth killer than pig.
@@RatEnjoyer I mean, they buffed DS time due to Enduring, later made Enduring not work on DS not long after, and then didn't revert the change for a long while, so I'd say BHVR isn't very good at going back to remove bandaids
@@alsenddrake7764 fun...I'm so glad this game is ran by a bunch of lunatics who check stats of killers to see who needs buffs and nerfs instead of the killers actual power and how outdated it could be...🥲
Sometimes, I forget the Pig is even considered a “stealth” killer because that part of her kit is so ineffective. They’ve buffed/heavily nerfed her bear traps several times now, but I wish they would give her stealth side some love. They could make her movement speed 4.0m/s, 4.2m/s or something like that while crouched and she wouldn’t be insane. Also, just make her terror radius 24m already(used to be 28m back in the day).
I dont even use her stealth mechanic period because in my personal experience all it's ever done is slow me down and deny me attacks/downs that if I didn't bother crouching I would have gotten normally.
"We are aware of the concerns regarding the Pig's power. In the new patch, when picking the Pig, the killer has to complete the 5 generators while the survivors hunt her down"
When her tome came out I didn't even buy or attempt to play through the grind cause why would I waste my life on a character thats nerfed to high helll
I remember when i was a dedicated pig main she was the 1st killer i got red rank with 😔 it really breaks my heart i still play her just because she was my 1st red rank
As someone who bought the Saw chapter before anything else for the Pig, this also annoyed me, particularly the TR nerf, since I always thought "Well, crouching for 32 metres is stupid, I think her TR should be like 24 metres, that would be a nice enough buff at least" and then this video comes and I find out that she DID have that but was changed for no reason
-Survivors wanted a new gameplay/objective -New killer added with said -Survivor die because they cant be fucked to do it -Survivors cry about it -Killer power nerfed into uselessness -Repeat
They nerfed everything that made pig good and then made her worse at being the thing she is. That's not necessary, they just didn't like them or something.@@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN
Only problem is this new gameplay/objective was never fun to do. Maybe it’s fun for killers to get free kills due to rng but it was never fun for survivor hence the nerfs. And yes I understand you can just loop the killer to stop your bear trap from activating, and you can halt gens to stop the bear trap from activating. Unfortunately most survivors that aren’t playing this game non-stop aren’t good at looping and fucking nobody in solo queue is going to stop progressing gens to get rid of her power. Her power is simply too strong against unorganized and casual players which is the silent majority of the dbd playerbase.
The pig's original terror radius was 28 meters, not 24m. I remember because it was the perfect distance for Nurse's calling I kind of liked the 28 radius because she is SHORT
@Mafilovy had a friend who coped all the way to his twenties about his height(1.7 metres) because he was tall in primary but just stopped growing in highschool dropped from being a tall kid to short real quick💀 be glad you probably didn't have the fall from grace like him
I remember when Pig came out she was REALLY fun to play but was kind of challenging, she was a unique experience for sure. Now I barely recognize her...
I've never realized just how much she got nerfed over the years. Hearing about all those nerfs in total now just seems so unreal... BHVR, what on earth were you thinking? That shows how fucking stupid it is to balance a game solely around stats and not on actual footage. Like seriously, have they never played their own game or what?
@@thatguymichael595 yeah thats true but, if you nerf more you have, less Killers (1 killer = 4 survis not playing) --> less players playing cuz the wait y find a Game --> less money --> No Game again
@@thatguymichael595 Yes, you're probably right with that. But we're not talking about one or two nerfs to make the game a little easier and less frustrating against Pig, we're talking about a bunch of nerfs that made her almost unplayable. No other killer has received so many nerfs and honestly, it's ridiculous. She wasn't even that bad to begin with, and I feel like balancing a game around statistics from a majority of beginner players is not the right way. It's natural that beginner players die more often than experienced ones, because they don't know how to loop efficiently etc. I was probably pretty bad against every killer in the beginning, no matter if that was a Pig or a Nurse. Once players get better at the game, they'll probably realize that the Pig isn't a killer that's too strong and therefore doesn't need all the nerfs she's been receiving. But I definitely see your point there, the newer players should also be able to have fun at the game. :)
@@thatguymichael595 Yes, I can agree with that. I think the highest kill rate was either due to her exploding bear traps or her massive slowdown when people searched the boxes instead of doing gens. I personally think that this mechanic is lots of fun, because it actually gives you a little kick of adrenaline when your timer is close to finishing you off. :D So I'm with you, I would love to see more pig players.
@@thatguymichael595 wrong, she needs to be changed in a good way that her powers actually benefit her, pig just feels so weak in so many situations that it's ridiculous, for a steal killer she's sure slow as hell when crouched, 4 bear traps, when you use them BOOM there gone for rest of the game and survivors can just remove them almost instantly with no problem
DBD is a case study in why the devs need either a QA team or actually play their games. Also a lovely case study in how statistics can be worthless and even be worse by being outright misleading (kill rate used for balancing)
Wesker: Slam Bug that freezes Wesker in place when the survivor Disconnects from the match while in animation. Behavior: “We have decided to nerf the Pig to only have 1 Perk slot we believe this would balance her even more🤓”
And all they needed to do is give him a lullaby like Huntress, Trickster and for who the fuck know reason, Onryo liike really a stealth killer with a lullaby is like if Victor had very long neck but was still short. I know, i'm the best at making comparisons
I talked about this yesterday with some friends: BHVR's "consistency" in games works against them. Trying to make everything the same leads to monotony. In what we can all agree is the first killer sided patch 6.1.0 things like gens got nerfed, adding 10 seconds to each generator, hits got buffed with lower cooldown, survivor speed boosts got nerfed and so on. All these features are great for killers like trapper, a trapper desperately needed those little buffs... You know who didn't need those buffs? Nurse and blight. This is what I mean by consistency working against them, by them I mean mainly the game balance. Making a game balanced is not the same as making everything the same, matches should be different depending on the killer, really weak killers need those 90s gens, really strong ones dont. What's sad is that bhvr will literally never bother fixing this "consistency" error because it takes too much money and time for them to bother when they can just squeeze out a new killer or another feng outfit and gain profits.
@@mistplayzop she should have to find all her reverse bear traps like the trapper and her movement speed goes down everytime she picks one up. That way the survivors can avoid the annoyance of having to take 30 seconds away from a gen to remove the trap
Gotta love the fact that the only way to play this killer reliably without being an absolute god was to just sit in front of a box and stop playing, and they even took that away from her. It was super annoying to play against but it wasn't the playstyle that was the problem, the problem was that there was pretty much no way of getting much value from her without playing in the most degenerate way possible.
@@twinzzlers you just typed that shit out as if "just camp hooks" is some profound advice🤦🏾♂️ shut up kid smh lol never understood how people can start a game with the intention of losing and still play it🤣
I loved playing Pig, I dont think any rework could make her anymore than a mediocre killer but all the same, I still hope she gets the love from the Devs that she more than deserves
@Midnightttemp oh it's an m1 killer she needs her traps to do something for her which they currently barely do anything. I don't think she can become oppressive any time soon
I would pay to see a dbd live q&a or interview where they talk about the pig nerfs smh. Some of the reasons they had always seemed only skin deep or secreetly motivated, for example the speed/terror radius ratio "philosophy" almost only affecting the pig this video talks about. I also still play her because I made a vow a while back that I would no matter what nerf tsunami descended upon her, and I have no regrets! Snoot for the win
pretty much all the earlier killers have had problems with their power level but i wouldn’t say it’s because they’re bad developers. Back then when they made a killers power they didn’t take things like map control or anti loop into consideration. Killers were much simpler. They also believed killers were much stronger than they actually were, so a ton of killer powers were significantly worse like trapper, hag, and wraith. Times change and making a lot of killers relevant AND fun for both sides is pretty difficult, so it makes sense a lot of killers had become terrible in comparison to others. Devs have done fine imo
that's what you get when you have spaghetti code and 5 players to satisfy every match. What made dbd popular ? survivor juke compilation and killer pov; pig is unfun to play against (how dare survivor have to do something else than sit on gens !) and doesn't represent potential ads
Satisfying 4 people in a match over 1 has become a very apparent theme from BHVR, and I can't exactly blame them, either. I mean, i CAN, but at the same time, i do understand the idea of it. Asymmetrical games are EXTREMELY hard to balance. Just like MOBA's, for instance. A new item, a new map, a new buff to someone, etc, etc can completely change the balance of the game. Just like how BHVR needs to literally work around every single perk that comes out JUST for Nurse, because every time a perk comes out that's decent for most killers, they become massively broken on Nurse, and require a nerf. Then the perk gets riddled with nerfs until Nurse players can't abuse the perk, which effectively makes it useless for other killers. BHVR effectively has to be careful with anything they release when it comes to perks, because they have to balance them around the Nurse, which has also become a HUGE issue with DBD, because she ignores every aspect of basic gameplay with her Blink.
@@adamj6864 imo ive been playing since like 2017 and 99.9% of the changes i dont agree with even the "good" changes were executed poorly and could've been better so many common sense changes that should be made
Suggested Changes to make Pig more healthy: -Reduce Reverse Bear Trap timer by 4 seconds -Pig Movementspeed reduced to 4m/s -Reverse Bear Traps trigger after 3 (previously 1) generators have been completed -Reverse bear Traps no longer kill survivors but instead inflict mangled for 15 seconds -One generator on the map starts out already repaired -All reverse bear traps are destroyed when the exit gates are powered -2.5% quicker ambush charge speed but also reduce ambush charge speed by 70% -Option in the menu to disable match making against killers with that have a playtime on pig longer than 3 hours. -Survivors that bring a map offering against the pig are personally jacked off by the developers -The Saw DLC now costs 90 dollars but includes a cute RBT charm
....nah I mean A for effort but ya lost me when no bear traps kill..idk if ya seen the movies but there's no way they can change anything for the better
As I was reading this suggestion, I decided to nerf Pig, every player playing this Killer will now get 75% less bloodpoint and experience from every sources. It will also disable achievement.
Pig is the best killer in DBD IMO. She has: 1) Boop the Snoot memes 2) Nerf the Pig memes 3) A dedicated following (r/Oinkers_) 4) Again, Snoot Boops 5) She is from my favourite movie series :D
BHVR patches and comments: 1. Pig's attack changed to sneezing 2. Pig can now be jumped by the survivors and beaten to death which results in an instant win for the survivors 3. Pig is renamed to Swine (to represent the players who play this Killer) 4. Swine can now be jumped by the generators and beaten to death which results in an instant win for the survivors 5. Hunter's pants are replaced with thigh highs
As a player that started with the Trickster chapter and loves Pig, I heard and got the meme, but never FULLY understood it until now, so thank you for doing this extensive look at the "Nerf Pig"meme.
Yeah though, they were also needed xD He's still a weak killer since the Boon meta slapped any qualities he had out of his grasp. He really just kept having to be buffed to keep up with the new meta of the game otherwise he would be worthless.
Nerf pig reminds me of when i used to play League of Legends there was a meme of the same sort called "Better Nerf Irelia" that could be used in any situation when playing any character.
The pig nerfs really saddened me at the time because I joined this game through the SAW dlc. I found my love for DbD and the SAW franchise through this specific DLC and even mained Pig for a while. Seeing her fall from grace for next to no warranted reasons was disheartening to say the least.
To be fair, the Undetectable change also made her immune to Object, which was the worst thing you could do to a Pig back then. Other than that though I'd forgotten just how much they gutted my poor girl :(
I love how memes like these always pop up and usually don't ever die out, like Herobrine getting "removed" in every patch note. Something about Telesto breaking some aspect of Destiny, and the constant "Nerf Genji" barrage lmao
And the worst part is that despite all nerfs, she's still so fun to play. However, losing ain't fun at all. So sometimes it feels like you're handicapping yourself for playing her
I do enjoy the occassional pig game but it feels like you're handicapping yourself because you are handicapping yourself. Pig is borderline a joke killer.
I genuinely think Patrick or cote hates the pig. I think they got their heads popped 1 to many times and just lost their shit. And Almo just has to sit their and take it cause its his boss
Don't forget they changed Deathslinger to have a 32m terror radius, despite being 4.4. And Anna has an odd 20m terror radius while also having a 45m lullaby that's always on despite any stealth perks or add-ons, and is also 4.4. They you have Trickster with his really odd lullaby.
that's actually funny bc in league of legends there was also a champ that is a meme of getting nerf alot, so we always says if some champ are too strong "better nerf Irelia"
Having mained pig on launch im absolutley gutted to see the state she's been left in. the 32m radius hurts the most IMO, followed closely with the endgame beartrap exit gate nerf.
Pig buffs I’d love to see: Pig can pick people off from gens while crouched Pig ambush lunge increased from 2 -> 2.5 seconds Pig ambush speed increased from 169% -> 180% Pig crouch movement speed increased from 90% -> 98% Combat straps base kit! Change addons that give haemorrhage and mangled effects with traps and replace the effect to be applied on ambush effects until fully healed. Amanda’s secret, the worst addon she has IMO, should be reworked and make ambush apply deep wound and see a change in colour depending on progression of gens when crouched, kinda like what wraith and legion have. Lastly, her own chase music ☺️
you're right we counted the many times we nerfed her so we decided to remove her reverse bear traps completely from the game and made her only crouch the whole match.
Her traps being nerfed completely reduced her to a generic M1 killer and not a strategic endgame one... Honestly, it was so fun, and fulfilled the SAW theme of "Game Over" for twists at the end...
She's my main...she can still be used to mind game effectively. She even looked like a fellow survivor in the beginning...you can still crouch up to the gens if you're careful enough! 😂😂
The one regarding bhvr adding a 5th jigsaw box is actually a buff because they confirmed that they reduced drastically the chances of getting off the trap in the first 2 attempts making it actually a buff for the pig. Another thing worth to talk about is that other than sadako, Deathslinger was the first exception to the rule, he had a 32 meters radius with a 4.4 movement speed after his nerfs
Alright guys so we’re going to make a quick time mini game where you have to manually put the traps on the survivor’s heads when they are downed. Other survivors can blind you with flashlights, which have been buffed to blind in just 0.2 seconds, which will not only let the survivor out of the dying state but they will be returned to healthy and will repair generators 125% faster for 300 seconds. Also the pig can’t see very well out of her mask so we are reducing her fov, and adding a breathing sound while reducing all other sounds bc let’s be real she can’t hear anything in that mask.
I wish more people would put together that The Pig, Freddy, and The Twins are all the same situation. BHVR has no problem making a whole killer, *selling* it to people for almost as much as the base game, then realizing it's too much work for them to balance the killer and definitely too much work for them to rework them (for free), so they gut the killer to the point they feel unplayable as the way of removing them from public games.
They also made Deathslinger, a 110% movement speed killer, have a 32 meter terror radius. All because he could just barely hit people outside his TR if using M&A. And Huntress who was released even earlier has a 20 meter TR, though with a 40 meter constant lullaby
these nerfs caused me to stop playing her and i was a devoted pig main, in fact it actually was a pretty big contributing factor that caused me to stop playing the game around late 2019 because the amount of nerfs made it so unfun to play as her and i didnt pick up the game again until 2022, fuck BHVR
Reminds me of the good old "Better nerf Greninja" memes in Smash 4. Modest high tier character, but what's that? Diddy Kong is terrorizing the entire tournament scene? Better nerf Greninja!
the nonstandard terror radiuses of Sadako, Myers, and Wesker were mentioned, but Caleb also has a nonstandard terror radius - 32m on a 110% killer if I'm not mistaken
BHVR for the last 2 years in nutshell -New contents are added and the buffed Killers -Survivor mains malding abt that -Somehow nerf the fucking pig **Refuses to elaborate and leaves**
My favorite killer is Pig and the most fun I have with her is the stealth playstyle. Sadly you really do need the extra crouch speed add-on for her. She is definitely a high skill ceiling killer but grabbing those survivors off gens and making their hearts jump is worth all the effort. : )
...I remember quite well the nerf to Pig dash not applying or working with Secondary status effects anymore. I was so ticked off, I manage to track down an invite to Mclean's Discord and asked him as politely as I could , "Dude, what the hell?!" The answer I got essentially boiled down to, "Well Hillbilly and Leatherface don't apply those status effects with their saws. And both of them charge up their power like Pig does her dash, so they're the same thing and shouldn't apply the effects. We're normalizing all secondary attacks that use charge bars so they don't apply those effects anymore." Me: "So you're literally telling me that the instant down ability of the Saw Bros is equivilant to Pig's dash because both have charge bars?" McLean: "Yes." And no I can not find this conversation. He deleted and recreated his DbD chat in his server like six times since the conversation happened.
A lot of things became a laughing stock in this game. For example nuking survivor and killer perks and addons, the hatch and nerfing specific killers like spirit and billy.
I'm a loyal pig main since beginning of 2021 and still think she is the greatest killer in the whole game, I always get 3-4 kills on her and i think she is quite easy to control. But what i really miss is people not being able to escape with traps on, because nowadays you can escape with the trap on no matter what status it has.. activated or not activated.. that's just dumb i hate this..
Anyone who has truly played dbd since the beginning (before the beginning) knows what the game really is. It is all built on a shakey spaghetti party game. Even the devs were shocked by its success, and if you listen to them speak about game theory you can easily deduce why. Balance was never, ever an intention. They needed to rebuild it from the ground up so they could have more than 2 mechanics, but they pressed the gas and pushed forward, once they got the money on board. Now you have Wesker.
After the insta-blinds were removed after the lead dev got humiliated in a show, I'm almost tempted to believe Pig got gutted over and over because the lead dev, being bad at the game, got killed by reverse traps several times XD
What's funny to me is how the AFK Pig strat was in the game the whole time, and only got removed after content creators reminded people that it was in the game.
Lol. By their logic, Wesker should have a 5.0 m/s movement speed based on his 40 meter terror radius. Because his power doesn't make up for that. It DOES make Starstruck awesome on him though.
![Quando Rondo - Grow Up [Official Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/8zFnCg3BO4Q/mqdefault.jpg)
🅱erf 🅱ig
Pig becoming livestock hehe
So "How 4k Freddy meme became a thing" next?
Well I’m no bhvr
🅱️
@@djekdozovitch3679 When Freddy got his full rework which gave him no Weakness. Chase: Snare Pool Map Pressure: Teleport to uncompleted Gen. Oblivious would also Turn Off the Borrowed Time, because you need to be in a Terror Radius to use it. So it made SUPER EASY to just hit the Saver to turn it off and Tunnel the other person instantly.
My favourite meme was always "it has come to our attention that (insert killer here) has been made far too powerful and as a result we decided to nerf the pig"
I remember that one. It was everywhere.
Or people asking when the next pig nerf will come under dev comments or patch notes
Lol so it's the decade old "better nerf irelia" meme from League of Legends. She was in the same boat. *insert random champion here* has been outperforming her lane opponents, and as a result we have nerfed irelias attack damage.
Every titles got one RIP Blackbeard
@@warren1078 that was aurelion sol actually, i never heard of the one from irelia
“Better nerf greninja” is what I know best.
we have heard your concerns, and as a result will now allow survivors to down and hook the pig
😂
We have noticed that Amanda has never used a reverse bear trap on others but herself so now Amanda start with a reverse bear trap which activates when the Pig has moved from the spawn. When the Pig successfully hits a survivor, the trap snaps
We should've known what was coming when Amanda's irl actress Shawnee Smith stated how saddened she was that they didn't even contact her to make voice work
Yep, they don't get ANY of the real actors except in one single case, Ashe Williams. Still true even to this day, DC Douglas was not contacted to voice Wesker, and none of the RE Survivors are voiced by their original voice actors.
@@ThndrMge back then we didn't know it was going to be a trend
@@killrcupcake2994 sad that it still is
@@ThndrMge the only one with the dumbest screams in the game lol
@@ThndrMge Pinhead is voiced by Doug Bradley
BHVR: "We've listened to your feedback and we've decided to make some changes to Pig following the reassurance nerf. In this patch Pig will now be capable of getting knocked unconscious after a successful pallet stun."
After she gets blinded by a flash light she is blinded for 3 minutes
"We are aware of the cheating problem and sincerely apologize about not making any announce any of the counter measure that we prepare for it. Thats why the final conclusion is to nerf the pig, thank you for the feedback "
In this new patch, if the pig is hit by a pallet three times and all 4 survivors are alive, then the survivors can hook the pig.
@@Zulk_RS XD
@@Zulk_RS the pig also will have a 1.33% chance of being free from the hooks
mad respect to this guy for having to play pig for 13 minutes to get background gameplay
I used to main pig ☠️
Yeah the gameplay lasted too long....we should nerf pig
@@luckywoo2120 bro people are complaining about the nurse, let’s nerf that pesky pig
@@luckywoo2120 the gameplay lasted longer than me in bed.
@@B1g_B0sssss truh it lasted more then 0.4 sec we should nerf pig
The next update patch notes are gonna be like.
-Added Sadako jiggle physics.
-Removed The Pig's attacks.
-Removed The Pig's reverse bear traps.
-When playing The Pig, all generators are now completed at the start of the game.
-If you still get killed by a Pig player, you can now vote with the other survivor to get the player banned from the game.
-The Pig is now immobile and can no longer traverse around the map.
What would jiggle
@@Pillar_of_Salt💀
The pig is now just a normal farm sized pig, and oh yeah also all gens start completed
*The Pig:* (Breaths)
*BHVR:* "Looks like you're going to the shadow realm, Piggo."
I cant 🤣🤣🤣 hahaha
More like ni-
BHVR: Now time to buff Trickster. Because reasons.
Piggo 🤣
shadow realm? no my pig, u are going to T E X A S
"We have decided to buff the Pig, a long waited change. Now, when a survivor disarms a reverse bear trap, they can instead trap the pig, starting her timer and forcing her to go disarm it. If a pig gets stunned by a pallet, the survivors can work together to pick up the Pig and hook her, instantly winning the game.
Didn't Pig have like one of the highest kill rates at one point as a result of the majority of casual players not understanding how her trap mechanic works? Since Bhvr has shown time and time again that they don't play their own game and only balance around statistics this would explain why Pig was nerfed so heavily and for example Nurse wasn't. Nurse is after all the killer with the lowest overall kill rate to this day.
Also can we talk about the background gameplay? What the actual fuck were those survivors doing lol
background gameplay: 50/50 if its competent players or people like in the vid ever since the latest mmr change.
and yes, bhvr bases buffs and nerfs almost entirely about stats(with some things such as dead hard clearly being a favorite of a dev, considering the time that nerf took)
pig's very much a noobstomper killer and, since it's an m1 killer, is barely different from what killer players are used to.
nurse meanwhile has the highest skillfloor(not skillceiling, as alot of people like to say, that role would imo be taken by hillbilly), since not being at least somewhat capable with her power results in a guaranteed loss, resulting in players new to her drastically decreasing the killrate
@@spinnyboi9951 a real shame Nurse's skill floor is almost completely negated by just equipping double range
makes her piss easy
that jeff stuck on a screaming loop...
@@dumblenutz5561 i do say blink recharge addons are far more busted than the range addons and i want them removed, since they remove the only limitation nurse has in killing which is downtimes between blinks, with both recharge addons you can just play pre-rework nurse and blink 24/7 and survivors cant make distance at all even if you miss.
@@marcuso7350 survivors can't make distance at all with range either, and it also allows her to jumpscare people by blinking half the map whilist synergizing with starstruck.
She also is faster during the blink.
I'd say they're stronger for those reasons.
As a newer player (2021) I never knew that Pig's traps used to activate when EGC started and all that. That makes so much sense as to why her power feels kinda "empty" at endgame.
yeah i trapped many survivors at the end game and when they escaped with the traps i thought they hacked turns out she got nerfed like bruh
11:33 You mentioned that they abandoned their ‘design philosophy’ when they released Sadako with 115% 24m Terror Radius, and Wesker with 115% 40m. But they did that even earlier - Deathslinger moves at 110%, with a 32m terror radius.
Deathslinger is kind of an exception since he did release with a 24m terror radius and had it for over year until they nerfed it to 32m because they didn't like that you could run it with monitor to sneak up on survivors and give them little time to react. Ironically during this time slinger was a better stealth killer than pig.
@@DatCrumb and now, they can surely reduce the pigs terror radius right? Right!? :D
@@RatEnjoyer Absolutely, I doubt they ever will though.
@@RatEnjoyer I mean, they buffed DS time due to Enduring, later made Enduring not work on DS not long after, and then didn't revert the change for a long while, so I'd say BHVR isn't very good at going back to remove bandaids
@@alsenddrake7764 fun...I'm so glad this game is ran by a bunch of lunatics who check stats of killers to see who needs buffs and nerfs instead of the killers actual power and how outdated it could be...🥲
As a 4 year pig main, this rips open old wounds like a reverse bear trap.
For this the pig gets no more ambush
How are you feeling with the buffs she got some time ago?
Sometimes, I forget the Pig is even considered a “stealth” killer because that part of her kit is so ineffective. They’ve buffed/heavily nerfed her bear traps several times now, but I wish they would give her stealth side some love. They could make her movement speed 4.0m/s, 4.2m/s or something like that while crouched and she wouldn’t be insane. Also, just make her terror radius 24m already(used to be 28m back in the day).
I second this motion
I dont even use her stealth mechanic period because in my personal experience all it's ever done is slow me down and deny me attacks/downs that if I didn't bother crouching I would have gotten normally.
Also, maybe DON’T HAVE HER ROAR LIKE A RAGING BEAST A FULL SECOND BEFORE SHE CHARGES.
@@Dreigonix ^this too
@@Dom-um6gi wait that's a stealth mechanic and not a mind game mechanics during pallet loop ?
"We are aware of the concerns regarding the Pig's power. In the new patch, when picking the Pig, the killer has to complete the 5 generators while the survivors hunt her down"
"We wanna standardize movement speed with the terror radius *years pass* we're giving deathslinger a 32 meter radius
And they based that change
on perk. On Monitor & Abuse, to be specific.
Alright then with this logic nurse should has the smallest terror radius 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Imagine nurse with 16 or 8 m terror radius 😂😂😂😂
@@el8779 take your meds
I still miss my Stealthslinger
I swear developers be giving killers unnecessary bullshit nerfs, could it be because bitch ass survivors have to bitch? Probably.
I have to assume someone in the dev team got tea-bagged by a pig and took it personally.
0:49 Pig really took her oportunity on that one
True
xd
Do I really blame her tho?
This is so insane to hear. You missed the biggest nerf, you have to pay for her, which no one will do now 😂
When her tome came out I didn't even buy or attempt to play through the grind cause why would I waste my life on a character thats nerfed to high helll
I want my money back
@@devilghostface8798 No.
I remember when i was a dedicated pig main she was the 1st killer i got red rank with 😔 it really breaks my heart i still play her just because she was my 1st red rank
Pig was my first and will still be my favorite killer
Edit: geez the more I listened to the devs nerfing her the more annoyed I became
As someone who bought the Saw chapter before anything else for the Pig, this also annoyed me, particularly the TR nerf, since I always thought "Well, crouching for 32 metres is stupid, I think her TR should be like 24 metres, that would be a nice enough buff at least" and then this video comes and I find out that she DID have that but was changed for no reason
@@codified_ I very rarely play killer and when I do its mostly pig,but its like he said behavior must hate saw or something
I wouldn’t worry about it man, keep playing her. A good player with a below average killer is better than a bad player with a good killer imo
@@headerspbj770 im more like eh with killers in general but thanks mate this motivated me
Pig is an awesome killer and one of the first I wanted as well!
-Survivors wanted a new gameplay/objective
-New killer added with said
-Survivor die because they cant be fucked to do it
-Survivors cry about it
-Killer power nerfed into uselessness
-Repeat
No one complained about pig stop having this victim mentality and stfu
@Nico-ut8qs so to fix that the solution was to make her useless?
They nerfed everything that made pig good and then made her worse at being the thing she is. That's not necessary, they just didn't like them or something.@@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN
@@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN its always survivor mains with "tunnelling"
Only problem is this new gameplay/objective was never fun to do. Maybe it’s fun for killers to get free kills due to rng but it was never fun for survivor hence the nerfs. And yes I understand you can just loop the killer to stop your bear trap from activating, and you can halt gens to stop the bear trap from activating. Unfortunately most survivors that aren’t playing this game non-stop aren’t good at looping and fucking nobody in solo queue is going to stop progressing gens to get rid of her power. Her power is simply too strong against unorganized and casual players which is the silent majority of the dbd playerbase.
The pig's original terror radius was 28 meters, not 24m. I remember because it was the perfect distance for Nurse's calling
I kind of liked the 28 radius because she is SHORT
I just liked it for whispers. Let's you know when to crouch before getting to a gen.
The fact that she's just around 1,68 m tall makes her really short. xD
@@Luna-Starfrost Amanda out here at a wopping 5'5.
@Mafilovy had a friend who coped all the way to his twenties about his height(1.7 metres) because he was tall in primary but just stopped growing in highschool
dropped from being a tall kid to short real quick💀
be glad you probably didn't have the fall from grace like him
@@MafiAcosta 😐
I remember when Pig came out she was REALLY fun to play but was kind of challenging, she was a unique experience for sure. Now I barely recognize her...
I've been really enjoying these documentary style videos you've been doing recently. The ruin one, the ds one, and now this. Super interesting!
Ayy, You get it.
I hope the next video would be Blood Warden or Mad Grit
@@grizz8175 or agitation and iron grasp
Benboooo!!!
I'm a Benjo Fan
Bhvr: "always remember, we are always one pig nerf away from a perfect game"
I've never realized just how much she got nerfed over the years. Hearing about all those nerfs in total now just seems so unreal... BHVR, what on earth were you thinking? That shows how fucking stupid it is to balance a game solely around stats and not on actual footage. Like seriously, have they never played their own game or what?
@@thatguymichael595 yeah thats true but, if you nerf more you have, less Killers (1 killer = 4 survis not playing) --> less players playing cuz the wait y find a Game --> less money --> No Game again
@@thatguymichael595 Yes, you're probably right with that. But we're not talking about one or two nerfs to make the game a little easier and less frustrating against Pig, we're talking about a bunch of nerfs that made her almost unplayable. No other killer has received so many nerfs and honestly, it's ridiculous. She wasn't even that bad to begin with, and I feel like balancing a game around statistics from a majority of beginner players is not the right way. It's natural that beginner players die more often than experienced ones, because they don't know how to loop efficiently etc. I was probably pretty bad against every killer in the beginning, no matter if that was a Pig or a Nurse. Once players get better at the game, they'll probably realize that the Pig isn't a killer that's too strong and therefore doesn't need all the nerfs she's been receiving.
But I definitely see your point there, the newer players should also be able to have fun at the game. :)
@@thatguymichael595 Yes, I can agree with that. I think the highest kill rate was either due to her exploding bear traps or her massive slowdown when people searched the boxes instead of doing gens. I personally think that this mechanic is lots of fun, because it actually gives you a little kick of adrenaline when your timer is close to finishing you off. :D So I'm with you, I would love to see more pig players.
@@thatguymichael595 wrong, she needs to be changed in a good way that her powers actually benefit her, pig just feels so weak in so many situations that it's ridiculous, for a steal killer she's sure slow as hell when crouched, 4 bear traps, when you use them BOOM there gone for rest of the game and survivors can just remove them almost instantly with no problem
They don't play like us
an example of what a game ends up like when the developers don't actually play thier own game lol
Literally
AND are highly unprofessional.
DBD is a case study in why the devs need either a QA team or actually play their games. Also a lovely case study in how statistics can be worthless and even be worse by being outright misleading (kill rate used for balancing)
holy that ada is laggy
your profile picture is straight from the depths of hell
That picture is legendary wtf 😂
@@Ardetha what do you mean
All I see is lauren
@@Ardetha Why thank you Mr. Ardetha 😚
When myers first came out i hated seeing laurie XD Now its MIKAELA.
Wesker: Slam Bug that freezes Wesker in place when the survivor Disconnects from the match while in animation.
Behavior: “We have decided to nerf the Pig to only have 1 Perk slot we believe this would balance her even more🤓”
Wesker ain't no Crota . Get out of here .
Along with the "design philosophy" idea, lets also remember that deathslinger was given a 32m terror radius as a nerf, even though he moves at 110%
And all they needed to do is give him a lullaby like Huntress, Trickster and for who the fuck know reason, Onryo liike really a stealth killer with a lullaby is like if Victor had very long neck but was still short. I know, i'm the best at making comparisons
@Lars Liam Vilhelm not really surv main
@Lars Liam Vilhelm no one asked
@@heronik79 He actually has a lullaby, it's not noticed because it is lower than his Terror Radius
@Lars Liam Vilhelm Quickscope was the only unfair thing tbh.
I talked about this yesterday with some friends: BHVR's "consistency" in games works against them. Trying to make everything the same leads to monotony. In what we can all agree is the first killer sided patch 6.1.0 things like gens got nerfed, adding 10 seconds to each generator, hits got buffed with lower cooldown, survivor speed boosts got nerfed and so on. All these features are great for killers like trapper, a trapper desperately needed those little buffs... You know who didn't need those buffs? Nurse and blight. This is what I mean by consistency working against them, by them I mean mainly the game balance. Making a game balanced is not the same as making everything the same, matches should be different depending on the killer, really weak killers need those 90s gens, really strong ones dont. What's sad is that bhvr will literally never bother fixing this "consistency" error because it takes too much money and time for them to bother when they can just squeeze out a new killer or another feng outfit and gain profits.
Valid
It is 2022.
Pig is still bad.
BHVR finds an excuse to nerf her again.
I'm hoping they remove her RBTs to 2 by default that way they are less of a inconvenience to gen rush her with Hyperfocus Stakeout
She deserves to be nerfed because she looked at me funny to the guillotine
@@mistplayzop I agree
@@mistplayzop she should have to find all her reverse bear traps like the trapper and her movement speed goes down everytime she picks one up. That way the survivors can avoid the annoyance of having to take 30 seconds away from a gen to remove the trap
@@Samookely yeahhh...no, survivors still take them off with no problem
Here after Pig got more nerfs. She still can’t catch a break all these years later
Gotta love the fact that the only way to play this killer reliably without being an absolute god was to just sit in front of a box and stop playing, and they even took that away from her.
It was super annoying to play against but it wasn't the playstyle that was the problem, the problem was that there was pretty much no way of getting much value from her without playing in the most degenerate way possible.
You can camp hooks too if you don't care about MM2, it's won me entire games before.
@@twinzzlers you just typed that shit out as if "just camp hooks" is some profound advice🤦🏾♂️ shut up kid smh lol never understood how people can start a game with the intention of losing and still play it🤣
@@twinzzlers if i want to camp i play bubba
@@ebinmenes1698 Yeah but it's more fun to sit in the grass and scare survivors
Skill issue
Pig: you took everything from me
Sadako: I don’t even know who you are
I loved playing Pig, I dont think any rework could make her anymore than a mediocre killer but all the same, I still hope she gets the love from the Devs that she more than deserves
Problem it's if she gets stronger she may become very opressive
@@midnightttemp821 well now everyone who is playing her is very depressive so what's better
@Midnightttemp oh it's an m1 killer she needs her traps to do something for her which they currently barely do anything. I don't think she can become oppressive any time soon
No no no, pig totally needs to be pre-nerfed in advance for when they buff nurse in the future
She needs a full rework. SAW is all about (1) puzzles and (2) pain-or-death choices, and current Pig has neither.
I would pay to see a dbd live q&a or interview where they talk about the pig nerfs smh. Some of the reasons they had always seemed only skin deep or secreetly motivated, for example the speed/terror radius ratio "philosophy" almost only affecting the pig this video talks about.
I also still play her because I made a vow a while back that I would no matter what nerf tsunami descended upon her, and I have no regrets! Snoot for the win
yeah i wish someone would ask them why they hate the pig ahahaah
The fact that basically every killer has been the laughing stock of the game at some point or another speaks volumes of how bad the devs are lmao
pretty much all the earlier killers have had problems with their power level but i wouldn’t say it’s because they’re bad developers. Back then when they made a killers power they didn’t take things like map control or anti loop into consideration. Killers were much simpler. They also believed killers were much stronger than they actually were, so a ton of killer powers were significantly worse like trapper, hag, and wraith. Times change and making a lot of killers relevant AND fun for both sides is pretty difficult, so it makes sense a lot of killers had become terrible in comparison to others. Devs have done fine imo
Not all of them but they have had a good chunk of them be that way.
that's what you get when you have spaghetti code and 5 players to satisfy every match.
What made dbd popular ? survivor juke compilation and killer pov; pig is unfun to play against (how dare survivor have to do something else than sit on gens !) and doesn't represent potential ads
Satisfying 4 people in a match over 1 has become a very apparent theme from BHVR, and I can't exactly blame them, either. I mean, i CAN, but at the same time, i do understand the idea of it. Asymmetrical games are EXTREMELY hard to balance. Just like MOBA's, for instance. A new item, a new map, a new buff to someone, etc, etc can completely change the balance of the game. Just like how BHVR needs to literally work around every single perk that comes out JUST for Nurse, because every time a perk comes out that's decent for most killers, they become massively broken on Nurse, and require a nerf. Then the perk gets riddled with nerfs until Nurse players can't abuse the perk, which effectively makes it useless for other killers. BHVR effectively has to be careful with anything they release when it comes to perks, because they have to balance them around the Nurse, which has also become a HUGE issue with DBD, because she ignores every aspect of basic gameplay with her Blink.
@@adamj6864 imo ive been playing since like 2017 and 99.9% of the changes i dont agree with even the "good" changes were executed poorly and could've been better so many common sense changes that should be made
Suggested Changes to make Pig more healthy:
-Reduce Reverse Bear Trap timer by 4 seconds
-Pig Movementspeed reduced to 4m/s
-Reverse Bear Traps trigger after 3 (previously 1) generators have been completed
-Reverse bear Traps no longer kill survivors but instead inflict mangled for 15 seconds
-One generator on the map starts out already repaired
-All reverse bear traps are destroyed when the exit gates are powered
-2.5% quicker ambush charge speed but also reduce ambush charge speed by 70%
-Option in the menu to disable match making against killers with that have a playtime on pig longer than 3 hours.
-Survivors that bring a map offering against the pig are personally jacked off by the developers
-The Saw DLC now costs 90 dollars but includes a cute RBT charm
....nah I mean A for effort but ya lost me when no bear traps kill..idk if ya seen the movies but there's no way they can change anything for the better
@@michelangelo1136 lol
As I was reading this suggestion, I decided to nerf Pig, every player playing this Killer will now get 75% less bloodpoint and experience from every sources. It will also disable achievement.
Pig is the best killer in DBD IMO.
She has:
1) Boop the Snoot memes
2) Nerf the Pig memes
3) A dedicated following (r/Oinkers_)
4) Again, Snoot Boops
5) She is from my favourite movie series :D
for this reason she will now have her default bear traps reduced by 2
@@Ardetha And the time it to place a trap on a downed survivor is increased by 34%
@@deathknight1239 the time it takes for a reverse bear trap to pop has increased by 120 seconds
@@90millioxy3 And survivors are guaranteed to remove the beartrap on the first Jig-saw box.
@@LordSeraph999 crouch speed is reduced to 1m/s and don't remove the terror radius
BHVR patches and comments:
1. Pig's attack changed to sneezing
2. Pig can now be jumped by the survivors and beaten to death which results in an instant win for the survivors
3. Pig is renamed to Swine (to represent the players who play this Killer)
4. Swine can now be jumped by the generators and beaten to death which results in an instant win for the survivors
5. Hunter's pants are replaced with thigh highs
0:48 the pig knows what's important in life 👀
Yeah lol
As a player that started with the Trickster chapter and loves Pig, I heard and got the meme, but never FULLY understood it until now, so thank you for doing this extensive look at the "Nerf Pig"meme.
Would love to see this style of video for Wraith's history. He's gotten like 20 buffs in his time.
Yeah though, they were also needed xD He's still a weak killer since the Boon meta slapped any qualities he had out of his grasp. He really just kept having to be buffed to keep up with the new meta of the game otherwise he would be worthless.
Nerf pig reminds me of when i used to play League of Legends there was a meme of the same sort called "Better Nerf Irelia" that could be used in any situation when playing any character.
I miss OG Pig
Locking survivors in with headtraps was amusing both as a killer and a survivor player and very lore thematic.
The pig nerfs really saddened me at the time because I joined this game through the SAW dlc.
I found my love for DbD and the SAW franchise through this specific DLC and even mained Pig for a while.
Seeing her fall from grace for next to no warranted reasons was disheartening to say the least.
To be fair, the Undetectable change also made her immune to Object, which was the worst thing you could do to a Pig back then. Other than that though I'd forgotten just how much they gutted my poor girl :(
Damn, some serious Pig hatred feels like in 2019. Like someone on the dev team got their heads popped by a Pig and took it super personal. 🤣
As one of the few pig mains left I tell you it hurts
Could it be? A fellow pig main
3 pig mains. All pig mains unite
@@WWMK05 I have arrived, let our numbers read 4 and our broken hearts beat as one.
pig main here, I am glad I am not alone 😭
Ayo? I found my people...
I love how memes like these always pop up and usually don't ever die out, like Herobrine getting "removed" in every patch note. Something about Telesto breaking some aspect of Destiny, and the constant "Nerf Genji" barrage lmao
I LOVE these informative videos, rather than just gameplay. Also I obviously love anything that shows the incompetence of the devs...soooo...
And the worst part is that despite all nerfs, she's still so fun to play. However, losing ain't fun at all. So sometimes it feels like you're handicapping yourself for playing her
I do enjoy the occassional pig game but it feels like you're handicapping yourself because you are handicapping yourself. Pig is borderline a joke killer.
I genuinely think Patrick or cote hates the pig. I think they got their heads popped 1 to many times and just lost their shit. And Almo just has to sit their and take it cause its his boss
Don't forget they changed Deathslinger to have a 32m terror radius, despite being 4.4. And Anna has an odd 20m terror radius while also having a 45m lullaby that's always on despite any stealth perks or add-ons, and is also 4.4. They you have Trickster with his really odd lullaby.
that's actually funny bc in league of legends there was also a champ that is a meme of getting nerf alot, so we always says if some champ are too strong "better nerf Irelia"
Wait till he finds out Pig cant see her Jigsaw boxes outlines anymore
Having mained pig on launch im absolutley gutted to see the state she's been left in. the 32m radius hurts the most IMO, followed closely with the endgame beartrap exit gate nerf.
Now ... She can't even see her own Jigsaw Boxes.
Pig buffs I’d love to see:
Pig can pick people off from gens while crouched
Pig ambush lunge increased from 2 -> 2.5 seconds
Pig ambush speed increased from 169% -> 180%
Pig crouch movement speed increased from 90% -> 98%
Combat straps base kit!
Change addons that give haemorrhage and mangled effects with traps and replace the effect to be applied on ambush effects until fully healed.
Amanda’s secret, the worst addon she has IMO, should be reworked and make ambush apply deep wound and see a change in colour depending on progression of gens when crouched, kinda like what wraith and legion have.
Lastly, her own chase music ☺️
If only :(
I wish... :'c
and reduce her terror radious
Broo yeessss
Yes
0:49 Hold on a minute. What was the pig grabbing? Caught in 4k
you're right we counted the many times we nerfed her so we decided to remove her reverse bear traps completely from the game and made her only crouch the whole match.
Her traps being nerfed completely reduced her to a generic M1 killer and not a strategic endgame one... Honestly, it was so fun, and fulfilled the SAW theme of "Game Over" for twists at the end...
I just got into the game in May, I actually REALLY love playing Pig, but it crushes me knowing that she used to be way better.
I'll give you a couple months before you get bored or pissed off and leave
She's my main...she can still be used to mind game effectively. She even looked like a fellow survivor in the beginning...you can still crouch up to the gens if you're careful enough! 😂😂
The one regarding bhvr adding a 5th jigsaw box is actually a buff because they confirmed that they reduced drastically the chances of getting off the trap in the first 2 attempts making it actually a buff for the pig.
Another thing worth to talk about is that other than sadako, Deathslinger was the first exception to the rule, he had a 32 meters radius with a 4.4 movement speed after his nerfs
0:49 Amanda had to look at some of that cake lmao
There’s been one more confirmation on “design philosophy”: Slinger’s terror becoming 32m with speed being 4,4 still.
0:49 damn that new pig buff is wild 😳
Alright guys so we’re going to make a quick time mini game where you have to manually put the traps on the survivor’s heads when they are downed. Other survivors can blind you with flashlights, which have been buffed to blind in just 0.2 seconds, which will not only let the survivor out of the dying state but they will be returned to healthy and will repair generators 125% faster for 300 seconds. Also the pig can’t see very well out of her mask so we are reducing her fov, and adding a breathing sound while reducing all other sounds bc let’s be real she can’t hear anything in that mask.
“They wanted to standardize terror radious’ based on movement speed”
Deathslinger moment💀💀
I wish more people would put together that The Pig, Freddy, and The Twins are all the same situation. BHVR has no problem making a whole killer, *selling* it to people for almost as much as the base game, then realizing it's too much work for them to balance the killer and definitely too much work for them to rework them (for free), so they gut the killer to the point they feel unplayable as the way of removing them from public games.
How the pig became a laughing stock? EZ, they buffed Wraith..
They also made Deathslinger, a 110% movement speed killer, have a 32 meter terror radius. All because he could just barely hit people outside his TR if using M&A. And Huntress who was released even earlier has a 20 meter TR, though with a 40 meter constant lullaby
I don't even like pig and I STILL think her treatment has been pretty inexcusable over the years
Maybe someone at the Saw franchise insulted Mathieu Coté's Hag play
these nerfs caused me to stop playing her and i was a devoted pig main, in fact it actually was a pretty big contributing factor that caused me to stop playing the game around late 2019 because the amount of nerfs made it so unfun to play as her and i didnt pick up the game again until 2022, fuck BHVR
Reminds me of the good old "Better nerf Greninja" memes in Smash 4. Modest high tier character, but what's that? Diddy Kong is terrorizing the entire tournament scene? Better nerf Greninja!
the nonstandard terror radiuses of Sadako, Myers, and Wesker were mentioned, but Caleb also has a nonstandard terror radius - 32m on a 110% killer if I'm not mistaken
Doesn't that bitch got a gun tho
@@555Soupy555 I mean yea, but he's still the only 110% killer with a 32m terror radius
BHVR for the last 2 years in nutshell
-New contents are added and the buffed Killers
-Survivor mains malding abt that
-Somehow nerf the fucking pig
**Refuses to elaborate and leaves**
Rayman 3 hoodlum havoc music, already my fav dbd video ever now. Thanks
Pig buff
-pig is now a 4.2m
-pig stealth makes her terror radius 79 meters and removes undetectable
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My favorite killer is Pig and the most fun I have with her is the stealth playstyle. Sadly you really do need the extra crouch speed add-on for her. She is definitely a high skill ceiling killer but grabbing those survivors off gens and making their hearts jump is worth all the effort. : )
...I remember quite well the nerf to Pig dash not applying or working with Secondary status effects anymore.
I was so ticked off, I manage to track down an invite to Mclean's Discord and asked him as politely as I could , "Dude, what the hell?!"
The answer I got essentially boiled down to, "Well Hillbilly and Leatherface don't apply those status effects with their saws. And both of them charge up their power like Pig does her dash, so they're the same thing and shouldn't apply the effects. We're normalizing all secondary attacks that use charge bars so they don't apply those effects anymore."
Me: "So you're literally telling me that the instant down ability of the Saw Bros is equivilant to Pig's dash because both have charge bars?"
McLean: "Yes."
And no I can not find this conversation. He deleted and recreated his DbD chat in his server like six times since the conversation happened.
I loved this explanation video! Can you make a video about the history of the hatch and how it got nerfed over the years?
Even the dev team makes fun of it lmao "i ran out of coffee this morning, so i will be nerfing the pig"
i miss 2018 dbd. game doesn't even look the same.
A lot of things became a laughing stock in this game. For example nuking survivor and killer perks and addons, the hatch and nerfing specific killers like spirit and billy.
I’m still loyal to Amanda! After mastering moon dashing she’s so fun
pig : *breathes*
dev : HOW FUCKING DARE YOU
7:52 Wtf 😂
Jigsaw was whining about her traps being inescapable again, looks like
I'm a loyal pig main since beginning of 2021 and still think she is the greatest killer in the whole game, I always get 3-4 kills on her and i think she is quite easy to control. But what i really miss is people not being able to escape with traps on, because nowadays you can escape with the trap on no matter what status it has.. activated or not activated.. that's just dumb i hate this..
For this reason we have decided to nerf the pig
Yeah I agree on this, it’s such a shame that people are complaining about the pig, but overall she’s still one of the best killers.
Anyone who has truly played dbd since the beginning (before the beginning) knows what the game really is.
It is all built on a shakey spaghetti party game. Even the devs were shocked by its success, and if you listen to them speak about game theory you can easily deduce why.
Balance was never, ever an intention. They needed to rebuild it from the ground up so they could have more than 2 mechanics, but they pressed the gas and pushed forward, once they got the money on board.
Now you have Wesker.
After the insta-blinds were removed after the lead dev got humiliated in a show, I'm almost tempted to believe Pig got gutted over and over because the lead dev, being bad at the game, got killed by reverse traps several times XD
Salty devs is the worst thing you could have
What's funny to me is how the AFK Pig strat was in the game the whole time, and only got removed after content creators reminded people that it was in the game.
this hurts to litsen to as a pig main
"They're add-ons, not remove-from's!"
LOLLL
Dead by daylight: The documentaries we didn't know we needed episode 2
This video aged well, NOW huntress lullyby doesnt work on the jigsaw boxes smh
Lol. By their logic, Wesker should have a 5.0 m/s movement speed based on his 40 meter terror radius. Because his power doesn't make up for that.
It DOES make Starstruck awesome on him though.