H&K UMP: An H&K SMG Made for .40 and .45

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    H&K introduced the UMP (universal machine pistol) in an effort to attract sales from American law enforcement by offering a modern submachine gun in .45 ACP and .40 S&W calibers. The MP5 was and remains an extremely popular SMG, but it has never been made in .45 caliber, and that was seen as a popular option in the United States. The UMP was designed as a thoroughly modern gun with polymer upper and lower assemblies and a blocky, easy-to-machine bolt. It does retain the closed bolt operation of the MP5, providing much improved single-shot and first-shot accuracy compared to most SMGs. It was designed initially for .45 caliber, and then barrels, bolts, and magazines followed for .40 S&W (which was popular at the time) and 9mm Parabellum. The rate of fire in .45 is relatively slow (about 500 rpm), although it is faster in 9mm (more like 600 or 650 rpm). Sales have been primarily in the larger calibers in the US, but a number of security agencies in Europe have purchased UMPs in 9mm.
    Thanks to H&K USA for access to bring this UMP to you!
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Комментарии • 1,7 тыс.

  • @Mrgunsngear
    @Mrgunsngear 4 года назад +678

    if you ever want to do some videos with my UMPs----let me know!

  • @mrkeogh
    @mrkeogh 4 года назад +4747

    Willy Wonka's security team use these: the UMP-A variant.

    • @dak4465
      @dak4465 4 года назад +303

      I hate you

    • @callumbiasnow4825
      @callumbiasnow4825 4 года назад +84

      Stop trying to be funny, and be funny.

    • @stevenbobbybills
      @stevenbobbybills 4 года назад +306

      @@johnanon6938 don't they use them in tandum, with UMP-A and L-UMP-A both being used in various parts of the factory?

    • @fynnla.e
      @fynnla.e 4 года назад +139

      @@stevenbobbybills They also use the UZI-ITY-OO

    • @rustyshackle8000
      @rustyshackle8000 4 года назад +25

      Took me a second... *sigh*

  • @slowburner1
    @slowburner1 4 года назад +906

    I love that some of the guns aren't so forgotten.

    • @MRgunjunrun
      @MRgunjunrun 4 года назад +67

      You can only forget so many guns.

    • @jamesshaw2158
      @jamesshaw2158 4 года назад +91

      Highly forgettable gun for people that don't play video games

    • @sterlingroberts6240
      @sterlingroberts6240 4 года назад +9

      Ultra 1031 Ultra 1031 scalding!!! Haha, I play video games, but I recognize that guns rarely match up to video game counterparts. IRL though, the UMP’s recoil system makes full-auto fire a fair bit more jarring(less effective) than the equivalent roller-delayed system in say, the MP5. This video probably says it the best. I think it’s great for what it was intended to be, while looking great. Ian’s channel is definitely starting to trend towards the “unforgotten” weapons, but it’s a minor quibble, as his content is always superb, and I just love learning about all of them.
      ruclips.net/video/onzmRmgD9w4/видео.html

    • @Jamie-kg8ig
      @Jamie-kg8ig 4 года назад +14

      To be fair, it isn't as well known or as famous as the MP-5.

    • @xenosphobatic
      @xenosphobatic 4 года назад +8

      If he did something on HK guns, they're not really forgotten. Except that one civilian rifle.

  • @baronofhell2277
    @baronofhell2277 4 года назад +1936

    "Ump" is the sound one makes when slapping the charging handle

    • @DonovanPotatoBowl
      @DonovanPotatoBowl 4 года назад +77

      Or when my poop drops down the toilet bowl.

    • @melodybeck4152
      @melodybeck4152 4 года назад +33

      *oomp*

    • @jjayala5512
      @jjayala5512 4 года назад +7

      @Karafallout 1992 "ump" *slaps* *bolt*

    • @thestrongnsilenttype
      @thestrongnsilenttype 4 года назад +32

      @@jjayala5512
      UwU
      *hears an UMP in the night *
      OwO
      *slaps charging handle *

    • @kylekenney1907
      @kylekenney1907 4 года назад +1

      What kind of gunky ass charging handle do you use?

  • @jamessutton3461
    @jamessutton3461 4 года назад +3017

    "Hey! You're H&K, the MP5 guys!"
    "Yeah! We do so much more though. Like this, we have these new models, like the MP7, or the UMP!"
    "Got any MP5's left?"
    *long sigh
    "I'll check the back room. You're sure I can't interest you in a..."
    "MP5!"
    "fine."

    • @aaronsanborn4291
      @aaronsanborn4291 4 года назад +131

      I'd take the UMP over the MP5. I prefer the .40 or .45 over 9mm

    • @jamessutton3461
      @jamessutton3461 4 года назад +164

      @@aaronsanborn4291 As much as I joke, there aren't many guns with a more badass profile than an MP5k rocking a vertical grip and a 30 round mag. So, that would still be my personal pick, at least for aesthetics. Big fan of their pistols, such as the USP and it's derivatives. Also, 9mm hollow points are a thing, you know.

    • @aaronsanborn4291
      @aaronsanborn4291 4 года назад +33

      @@jamessutton3461 Lmfao looks have nothing to do with being effective

    • @Trve_Kvlt
      @Trve_Kvlt 4 года назад +98

      @@aaronsanborn4291 I'd honestly take the MP7 over the MP5. I don't even know why, I just like the 4.6x30 that it fires.

    • @aaronsanborn4291
      @aaronsanborn4291 4 года назад +31

      @@Trve_Kvlt the MP 7 is good for close protection but as a weapon for taking down someone in one or two shots yeah give me the UMP

  • @meadball1
    @meadball1 4 года назад +2065

    1:50 "..this is is an extremely simple gun that is faster and cheaper to produce."
    HK: We want $2000 for it.

    • @Rutherford_Inchworm_III
      @Rutherford_Inchworm_III 4 года назад +363

      If they sold them for a fair price, more civilians would want to buy them, and HK doesn't like that idea for a variety of reasons. "Enforced exclusivity" is one of their primary selling points to LEOs and governments.

    • @dredlord47
      @dredlord47 4 года назад +237

      I mean, they want 6000$ for an MP5, so...

    • @Jayhawkga
      @Jayhawkga 4 года назад +241

      H&K hates their customers.

    • @AtlasJotun
      @AtlasJotun 4 года назад +225

      @@Jayhawkga Sounds pretty German.

    • @Fraggr92
      @Fraggr92 4 года назад +94

      @@0neDoomedSpaceMarine But then if there was no gun control, every dumbass with a wallet would own a gun and civil war would break out faster than you can say "ammunition".
      Compared to that i'd take high weapon prices any day. If anything i'd say that it's a feature rather than a bug.

  • @hdog9046
    @hdog9046 4 года назад +2377

    Is it just me or does the UMP just look wrong with the 9mm magazine, the rest of the gun is so angular, and then the magazine is curved.

    • @cardiffpicker1
      @cardiffpicker1 4 года назад +111

      Get it in 40 or 45 and that isn't an issue, the 9mm is a problem you are stuck with for a reliable magazine for tapered cartridge.

    • @Vanalos
      @Vanalos 4 года назад +110

      @@cardiffpicker1 Regular ammo works OK with a straight mag, hollow points is where it really gets bad.

    • @dak4465
      @dak4465 4 года назад +98

      I agree. The curved mags just dont look right

    • @cardiffpicker1
      @cardiffpicker1 4 года назад +37

      @@Vanalos you can get mp5 straight magazine but i have heard far more reliability issues than a curved magazine.

    • @oscarshen6855
      @oscarshen6855 4 года назад +59

      This gun exists for 45 ACP, 9mm is just an extra option, of course it won't look right with 9mm magazine. It's a product targeting US's obsession for big bore.

  • @Spoderman5000
    @Spoderman5000 4 года назад +614

    5:30 At first I thought you were having a personal moment with the UMP.

    • @unsaved013
      @unsaved013 4 года назад +102

      you have to pay for that video

    • @michael_f30
      @michael_f30 4 года назад +3

      Nicholas Pope 💀💀

    • @tortillajoe235
      @tortillajoe235 4 года назад +18

      Why do we allow are selfs to drift further away from god’s light?

    • @TactaGhoul
      @TactaGhoul 4 года назад +17

      I don't think Ian's MAS would take kindly to that

    • @stevePHXD
      @stevePHXD 4 года назад +17

      Ian is a lefty ;)

  • @hunk8299
    @hunk8299 4 года назад +275

    Damn, H&K has designed so many amazing and iconic weapons. G3, G36, MP5, UMP, MP7, USP and so on. The gun world would be boring without them.

    • @bondrewdthelordofdawn3744
      @bondrewdthelordofdawn3744 4 года назад +46

      Don't forget g11 the space magic rifle

    • @stevenbobbybills
      @stevenbobbybills 3 года назад +25

      HK33, MG4, MG5, P30, VP70...

    • @thog3594
      @thog3594 3 года назад +28

      The world still is boring because WE CANT FUCKING BUY THEM. Damn laws... and HK.

    • @stevenbobbybills
      @stevenbobbybills 3 года назад +19

      @@thog3594 blame German export law and US import law. HK is more than willing to sell their designs where they can.

    • @stevenbobbybills
      @stevenbobbybills 3 года назад +3

      @@arnekrug939 oops, I meant MG4. I'll edit it.

  • @VashGames
    @VashGames 4 года назад +406

    With that G36 in the background, I keep expecting a "Eyes over here guys" from Ian somewhere in the video.

    • @btyrreddagger2065
      @btyrreddagger2065 4 года назад +8

      I think he did a video on it

    • @AshleyPomeroy
      @AshleyPomeroy 4 года назад +23

      @@btyrreddagger2065 He did a couple - there was some controversy a while back about overheating G36s which he convincingly dismisses.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 4 года назад +7

      Be glad the G11 isn't in fame.

    • @tron3747
      @tron3747 4 года назад +7

      It is very distracting, isn't it?

    • @nickrust8403
      @nickrust8403 4 года назад +1

      G36 are so disgusting

  • @MeFee100
    @MeFee100 4 года назад +557

    "You always told me to stay out of freeway"
    "You said it was suicide"
    "Than let us hope, that I was wrong"
    UMP shines in that scene.

    • @Tacticaviator7
      @Tacticaviator7 4 года назад +65

      It had an almost unlimited magazine too, well I guess they can code that in.

    • @Seeker-wq8jc
      @Seeker-wq8jc 4 года назад +55

      The Twins chase is always where my mind goes when I think of UMP. Either that, or Modern Warfare 2, where it was the most popular SMG in multiplayer. Usually silenced, and/or FMJ.

    • @WhitzWolf92
      @WhitzWolf92 4 года назад +25

      @@Seeker-wq8jc I ran mine with an ACOG...I made some questionable choices back in the day.

    • @shuboy05
      @shuboy05 4 года назад +22

      I actually love the Glock 18 in that scene.

    • @ArcturusOTE
      @ArcturusOTE 4 года назад +10

      @@WhitzWolf92 Isn't ACOG actually viable since the recoil of the UMP is almost nonexistent?

  • @clueless4085
    @clueless4085 4 года назад +238

    "...We've got one good UMP, they've got a thousand... We don't even know if Makarov's intel is any good."

    • @hauptmanndosman
      @hauptmanndosman 4 года назад +74

      Shows picture of vector.

    • @marklee1194
      @marklee1194 4 года назад +9

      YES!!! MW2 nostalgia.

    • @HotboiEngineering
      @HotboiEngineering 4 года назад +11

      @@marklee1194 You see they remastered the MW2 campaign and released it yesterday?

    • @marklee1194
      @marklee1194 4 года назад +2

      @@HotboiEngineering Yes.

    • @shellz5567
      @shellz5567 4 года назад +1

      @@HotboiEngineering I know I'm late but I'm gonna cop it for 26 cad 😎

  • @zumkzwxwq
    @zumkzwxwq 4 года назад +1579

    Comment section as expected, welcome every commander.

    • @alexmaccity
      @alexmaccity 4 года назад +102

      Its a good 2nd round rush B, buy

    • @cerealata9035
      @cerealata9035 4 года назад +91

      Thank you for the welcome, fellow commander.

    • @TheBlubertater
      @TheBlubertater 4 года назад +107

      G&K represent!

    • @rgm96x49
      @rgm96x49 4 года назад +68

      DEFY shitcan represent

    • @norad_clips
      @norad_clips 4 года назад +28

      Thank you, Commander!

  • @duckmaneuvers
    @duckmaneuvers 4 года назад +588

    it's either Counter-Strike or GFL.
    nice

    • @felifree4721
      @felifree4721 4 года назад +38

      Gotta bring those UMP's to the Maldives

    • @Lecter9000
      @Lecter9000 4 года назад +2

      or both

    • @ithehuman007
      @ithehuman007 4 года назад +3

      Pubg dude

    • @hewkii7157
      @hewkii7157 4 года назад +55

      No MW2, disappointed

    • @e5a
      @e5a 4 года назад

      Feli Free rip :(

  • @N1te0wl141
    @N1te0wl141 4 года назад +1131

    It's the fabled... UMP SISTERS!

  • @votecthulhu9378
    @votecthulhu9378 4 года назад +731

    UMP kinda hot tho

  • @Leo___________
    @Leo___________ 4 года назад +500

    Gonna have to disagree with Ian a bit, I think most users of the UMP would buy it as a anti-eco gun or possibly if you suspect the Ts went for AKs but not armor.

    • @ZeFluffyKnight
      @ZeFluffyKnight 4 года назад +42

      I stopped playing CS:GO in 2014 but back then and even when I played 1.6 I would just always get the UMP instead of M4s and in 2 rounds be buying loadouts for team mates. Such an underrated weapon in not only CS, but a lot of games honestly.

    • @ArcturusOTE
      @ArcturusOTE 4 года назад +36

      @@ZeFluffyKnight Ho boy you should try Modern Warfare 2's UMP45, cause that thing was the bees knees

    • @Leo___________
      @Leo___________ 4 года назад +24

      @@ZeFluffyKnight in classic counterstrike the UMP was held back by having a really badly aligned model. Change the weapon model to something that actually points the way it aims and people tended to do a lot better with it.

    • @razor1uk610
      @razor1uk610 4 года назад +8

      @@ZeFluffyKnight it is also pretty good in Payday 2 as the Jackel SMG (= 'UMP .45' cal) with higher hitting power & 40 rounds than the Compact-5 (= 'MP5' family);
      ...when equiped with the extended mag (the 'stock' mag is 30 rounds,) and has excellent accuracy (close to medium distances only) and a reasonable stability for a SMG, and easy to use stock iron sights, high RoF in auto-mode and very good stealth 'concealment' values all...
      ...without additional weapons modifications, or the user's/player's skill selections and their 'perk deck' modifying aspects of the weapon stats.
      But it does have a low ammo count for the character/user/player, requiring the skills that refund and drop ammo more often for every 6 kills and bonus ammo for single-fire mode headshots every 5+ seconds, particularly if a/the player is bad at aiming or trigger-discipline and/or is facing bullet sponge enemies like Skull Dozers - have a 5/7 AP pistol as your pistol and aim & shoot only at their faceplate & visor. and in half a mag to 2 mags, all dozers will tend to die fast.

    • @JohnWick-md8ef
      @JohnWick-md8ef 4 года назад

      @@ArcturusOTE Idk about the Modern Warfare 2019 UMP because I don't unlocked it but if it is close to the MW2 version this gun is owning

  • @ryanm.191
    @ryanm.191 4 года назад +133

    It was dirty using this with a suppressor and fmj on mw2

    • @OneKit
      @OneKit 3 года назад +7

      tru

    • @wish
      @wish 3 года назад +1

      why would you use bling over soh/scav

    • @ryanm.191
      @ryanm.191 3 года назад +1

      @@wish CoS tbh I was a rush style player, I’d always push the enemy and so usually I wouldn’t have to worry about running out of ammo

    • @Arto257
      @Arto257 3 года назад +4

      It was even dirtier in MW3 with rapid fire and a suppressor. Thing just hands you a positive K/D on a silver platter.

    • @mattgeiger9988
      @mattgeiger9988 3 года назад

      It would eat!

  • @ShotgunGabe
    @ShotgunGabe 4 года назад +405

    BEHOLD THE UMP SISTA!
    UMP9 :3
    UMP .45 (flat)
    UMP .40 (dead)

    • @leontam221
      @leontam221 4 года назад +47

      You want a nose implant of what??

    • @dyrila0074
      @dyrila0074 4 года назад +4

      Not write spoilers.

    • @HappiKarafuru
      @HappiKarafuru 4 года назад +23

      Ump9 = 404's doggo

    • @mikesideburns9791
      @mikesideburns9791 4 года назад +11

      Shotgun weebs tend to find the .40 and 45 a bit sssssnappy. It hurts their wrist.

    • @Kar98killme
      @Kar98killme 4 года назад +31

      UMP 9, 404s less psychotic version of soppo

  • @hesnotbad9045
    @hesnotbad9045 4 года назад +20

    Ah. The grey room. Of all the rooms I’ve never been to, this ones my favorite

  • @globalautobahn1132
    @globalautobahn1132 4 года назад +19

    I was working at a shooting range as an RSO on the 4th of July 2008. A police officer came in with a UMP 45 to sight it in. I asked him if he’d let me shoot it and he agreed. The gun shoots amazing, incredibly accurate in full auto. That was a great way to celebrate July 4th, and I got time and a half pay too!

  • @globalautobahn1132
    @globalautobahn1132 3 года назад +73

    Last time I shot one of these was when I was working at a shooting range on Fourth of July in 2008. None of the other employees wanted to work on the holiday so me and another guy volunteered to open the range for the half-day and get time and a half pay too. A Uniformed motorcycle cop pulled up out front, this was back when I was smoking cigarettes when I was 21. So I told my manager, “hey there’s a police officer in uniform about to come in.” We had cops come in all the time but never in uniform. So we figured he wanted to look at the books or something, but turned out he had a UMP 45 in a hard sided case that fit on the side of his motorcycle. He wasn’t a member or anything, but he said he needed to sight it in for his department in order to transfer it to another officer. I told him I will pay for all his ammo if he lets me shoot that. He was super cool and said you don’t need to pay for my ammo but you can shoot it. The gun shot amazingly well. And I hit this really tight groups that my manager was shocked that I was a better shot with a machine gun and he was even said so. This was in California of all places! Haha I made time and a half that day, and got the shoot a post 1986 machine gun on the Fourth of July! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 definitely drew a crowd and a lot of smiles from the other members.

  • @tacticaltrex675
    @tacticaltrex675 4 года назад +11

    My organization just got rid of it in favor of a short barreled AR pattern. As an instructor, it was really easy to train guys on it. Stored really small so there was a definite niche that the new ARs don't fill. We did have 30 round mags for .40. Don't know if that was standard or something my organization insisted upon. Our course of fire called for a 21 and a 29 round magazine for qualification. With the standard of hitting a human target within 100 yards, this weapon was every bit as effective as any of the AR variants we use or have used. Thanks, Ian...I greatly enjoy this powerful resource and refer to it often when I teach.

  • @tacticalyuzu8278
    @tacticalyuzu8278 4 года назад +90

    we just need a HK416 video to cover the whole 404 Squad!
    also, after watching this video 2:15 INTENSIFIES

    • @user-mi1nw5wi1z
      @user-mi1nw5wi1z 3 года назад +4

      I know this is an old comment, but the HK416 is far from forgotten, since it's now being used by the US military. ( M27 )

    • @jjtomecek1623
      @jjtomecek1623 2 года назад

      @@user-mi1nw5wi1z i mean Ian's covere plenty of weapons that definitely aren't forgotten already. HK416 would be good to go ahead and add

  • @spacecowboy2483
    @spacecowboy2483 4 года назад +66

    One more of the grey room's delights

  • @svenjonsson9
    @svenjonsson9 4 года назад +27

    Having full auto examples of both the MP5 and UMP in our shop, I can say with 100% certainty the MP5 is the better gun by leaps and bounds from a user perspective. The UMP has a heavy and jarring recoil, the MP5 is smooth. Roller lock won the day, and the UMP comes off as HK's attempt to cheapen production to save money, not to develop a good follow on to the MP5.

    • @lurkndog
      @lurkndog 7 месяцев назад

      I haven't had the opportunity to fire the MP5. The UMP did not impress me.

  • @jensl.942
    @jensl.942 4 года назад +68

    At some point in his life, Ian is going to have his mail forwarded to HK's grey room.

  • @seppesneyers3592
    @seppesneyers3592 4 года назад +10

    "You lock the bolt just like the MP5" But Ian you forgot to say you can slap the bolt just like the MP5, the most iconic feature of both of these guns

  • @charles_wipman
    @charles_wipman 4 года назад +58

    I always liked the UMP lines, here in Spain the Guardia Civil, the Cuerpo Nacional de Policía (the cops), the Ertzaintza (the vasque country police) and the Mossos d'Esquadra (the Cataluña police) use 'em in 9mm, along with MP5s; i've seen that the Guardia Civil ones have the two rounds burst on their fire selector, dk about the other cops.

    • @bmhater1283
      @bmhater1283 4 года назад +1

      Hell, I remember when I was about to get back home, I notice some cops holding UMPs

    • @charles_wipman
      @charles_wipman 4 года назад +4

      @@Tool683 I guess that because most of their job it's made indoors and and SMG offer more fire power than a pistol while still beign compact; the guys with the ARs and shotguns use to be outside the houses/buildings and next to the cars too.

    • @janhulek785
      @janhulek785 4 года назад +4

      @@Tool683 other then cartridge being too powerfull for police work maybe? Imagine situation when "too much penetration" is is an undesirable outcome (like when shooting indoors where you don't know whats behind the next thin wall with hostage/crowded situations) (not an expert, just speculating. I heard this same argument about police in czech republic using hollow point pistol ammunition - the main reason given was that the round is less likely to penetrate and cause havoc to the people/stuff behind the target)

    • @charles_wipman
      @charles_wipman 4 года назад +1

      @@Tool683 Yes there is, here in Spain the official round for police use it's the 9mm, they've 5.56 and 7.62x51 too, but what they use on interventions it's 9x19; that's what they are ordered to use.

    • @charles_wipman
      @charles_wipman 4 года назад

      @@janhulek785 The spanish police must use regular FMJ 9mm, it's illegal for them to use any non FMJ cartridge, other than 00 and slugs for their shotguns; all police or police like forces, like the Guardia Civil i.e. must use FMJ cartridges.

  • @agenericaccount3935
    @agenericaccount3935 4 года назад +5

    Every time something moves on that gun the sound gives me happy feelings.

  • @whyme943
    @whyme943 4 года назад +22

    Thank you for covering these non-forgotten weapons, too.

  • @黃楷哲-g8c
    @黃楷哲-g8c 4 года назад +183

    Forgotten Weapons
    is a Family :3

    • @vieniedogchatman2930
      @vieniedogchatman2930 4 года назад +7

      Might want to remember ump9's warning.

    • @mangatom192
      @mangatom192 4 года назад +17

      Based :3

    • @hanyaseseorang8542
      @hanyaseseorang8542 4 года назад +14

      So can I imagine Ian as Commander of forgoten weapons. From Full enginered Kraut Space Magic (G11) to dual cartridge Deringer ?

  • @Pepe_Le_Pew_Pew
    @Pepe_Le_Pew_Pew 4 года назад +4

    Finally! I've literally been waiting years for you to get your hands on one of these. It's one of my dream guns to own. I always thought it would make a great compliment to the USP .40

  • @michaelb6729
    @michaelb6729 4 года назад +100

    Where's the HK-slap demonstration ???? 🤔
    ... disappointed! 😐
    I was waiting for a tribute to Hans Gruber HK slap, and it didn't happen. 😪

    • @michaelb6729
      @michaelb6729 4 года назад +1

      @TheT34Tank
      "... that's right, no more table, where you going pal ....*slap* .... "
      RIP Marco

    • @Daniel-Weaver
      @Daniel-Weaver 4 года назад +2

      @TheT34Tank Glass? Who gives a shit about glass?

    • @Shepard_AU
      @Shepard_AU 4 года назад

      I don't think the UMP is meant to be slapped, as there's a notch on the handle slide to discourage that [ie 2:54]

    • @md_vandenberg
      @md_vandenberg 4 года назад +1

      @@Shepard_AU Why discourage that behavior when H&K themselves flat says that's how you operate the weapon? Now get on your bike and piss off.

  • @onlinepokeraddict
    @onlinepokeraddict 4 года назад +25

    I've always found this to be such an aesthetically pleasing gun.

  • @michaelambuehl6000
    @michaelambuehl6000 4 года назад +3

    Love my UMP. Thank you for showing everyone, Ian.

    • @johnbacon4997
      @johnbacon4997 3 года назад

      I assume you own a semi auto one? Is so what Cal, 9mm, .40 Cal or .45 ACP

  • @jmwoods1995
    @jmwoods1995 4 года назад +153

    I just wish someone would make a UMP for less than 2k.

    • @alexmaccity
      @alexmaccity 4 года назад +38

      Yeah might as well 2nd round buy the deag

    • @Tankliker
      @Tankliker 4 года назад

      @Omne Obstat *Shot them

    • @Tankliker
      @Tankliker 4 года назад +1

      @Omne Obstat I believe that is only in your head if you do it in reality XD

    • @jmwoods1995
      @jmwoods1995 4 года назад

      Hysteria357 when I say less than 2k I’m thinking like 12-1500 not 1850 for it without a brace.

    • @xenonram
      @xenonram 4 года назад

      @@jmwoods1995 You can get them for around $1695 from Atlantic Firearms. I don't know how good an Omega Gideon Shadow is though.

  • @SkipTerrio
    @SkipTerrio 4 года назад +64

    It seems like almost everything HK makes is really elegantly designed.

    • @get_serious4953
      @get_serious4953 4 года назад +6

      Yeah... Almost
      *Looks at G11*

    • @justzzzx623
      @justzzzx623 3 года назад +9

      @@get_serious4953 G11 kinda sexy tho

    • @erict3728
      @erict3728 2 года назад +1

      It should be when considering what they charge

  • @blackstone1a
    @blackstone1a 4 года назад +352

    “For .45 and **.40** “
    **Butterfly incident intensifies**

    • @komana5664
      @komana5664 4 года назад +23

      If you know you know

    • @tarasRinakushisu
      @tarasRinakushisu 4 года назад +6

      @asiopdru afiopugiop en.gfwiki.com/wiki/Lore

    • @e5a
      @e5a 4 года назад +7

      Rip ump40

    • @blackstone1a
      @blackstone1a 4 года назад +2

      Despotricando also a good answer

    • @johnthompson965
      @johnthompson965 4 года назад +1

      A decent design that's lagging out due in large part due to price, pedigree,....and the simple fact that in the 2000's.....one can have an assault rifle, fireing rifle caliber cartridges, with about 2 to 3 times the terminal ballistics potential and effective range.....when compared to ANY pistol cartridge fireing submachinegun.....in almost the same size package.

  • @herknorth8691
    @herknorth8691 4 года назад +7

    Many moons ago, I shot my first two full-autos at a shooting range: a 9mm MP5 and a .40 S&W UMP. While the two guns laid there side-by-side on the bench, I could have sworn I heard the MP5 say to the UMP: "Sohn, ich bin enttäuschen."

  • @mikeemmons1079
    @mikeemmons1079 4 года назад +60

    Ah, Germany. God bless their little clockwork hearts.

  • @Error62451
    @Error62451 4 года назад +111

    America: ump
    Germany: UNIVERSALE MACHININ PISTOLE

    • @Prxpagandalf
      @Prxpagandalf 4 года назад +11

      "Maschinen-Pistole" ;)

    • @PinkFoxzzz
      @PinkFoxzzz 4 года назад

      You mistook the sequence

    • @TheRealZJE313
      @TheRealZJE313 4 года назад

      @@PinkFoxzzz yeah he did.
      AMERICAN=45 acp
      GERMANY =9MM Luger

    • @Null8fuenf10
      @Null8fuenf10 3 года назад +1

      @@Prxpagandalf You noticed an 'I' instead of an 'E', but not 'universelle'?
      Also 'Maschinenpistole' is one word; there is no - dash.
      Merry Christmas
      ;)

  • @geremysorlinigiguere9535
    @geremysorlinigiguere9535 4 года назад +84

    "This is just a simple... Erm... well, 'simple' blowback."
    Aaah, so German "Simple".

  • @lightningandodinify
    @lightningandodinify 3 года назад +1

    I really appreciate how the channel is spreading to more popular guns as well. Your videos are easy to follow and offer very entertaining knowledge.

  • @OGbluetooth_
    @OGbluetooth_ Год назад +7

    Gun Jesus has become my favorite RUclipsr over the past few days.
    I'm German so I don't have a need for a firearm at all, but learning about guns irl is so darn interesting.
    Thanks for making so many videos! I learned a lot!

  • @williamkim6506
    @williamkim6506 4 года назад +99

    REMEMBER THE BUTTERFLY INCIDENT

    • @Bustin_cider00
      @Bustin_cider00 4 года назад +3

      William Kim what?

    • @Ace-Intervention
      @Ace-Intervention 4 года назад +5

      Trung Lê Quốc yes in deed, I had a -bullet- headache at the time

  • @droganovic6879
    @droganovic6879 4 года назад +25

    Holy Jesus, I caught your vid at the "uploaded an hour ago" mark! I guess today ain't so bad after all!
    I wouldn't say the UMP is forgotten, not really. Overlooked by the mp5, yeah probably. It's either that, a MAC10 or an Uzi that people think of when you say "submachinegun".
    Still, it's nice to see you back in that H&K grey room. It's nice to know that you _do_ in fact leave that auction house every now and then.
    It's a great video tho Ian, thank you very much. You always bring such interesting things. Thanks!

    • @Tool683
      @Tool683 4 года назад +4

      A lot of the guns he features are in fact the opposite of forgotten, not just this one

    • @69deputy
      @69deputy 4 года назад +1

      When I was at HK the guys said that Ian did all the recording in a day or so and that he would release videos over time.

    • @sterlingroberts6240
      @sterlingroberts6240 4 года назад +1

      69deputy what? Are you saying he’s been in that grey room for like a day or just a weekend?

  • @wallygray9104
    @wallygray9104 4 года назад +1

    Gotta love when one of your favorite channels posts a video of your favorite firearm on your birthday.

  • @HappiKarafuru
    @HappiKarafuru 4 года назад +306

    Prepare for some shikikan culture in the comment section
    Gun jesus finally reveal the holly "Flat" Bread for us to share

    • @vieniedogchatman2930
      @vieniedogchatman2930 4 года назад +25

      Why are there shell casings all around you, oh yeah you said that word and ump45 noticed.

    • @e5a
      @e5a 4 года назад +9

      Neural Upgrade epic

    • @dawnblade9126
      @dawnblade9126 4 года назад +7

      Still flat

    • @HappiKarafuru
      @HappiKarafuru 4 года назад +3

      @@dawnblade9126
      But it an holly "Flat" cause Gun Jesus blessed it :3

    • @e5a
      @e5a 4 года назад +1

      James deGuzman :,(

  • @TheChibitodd
    @TheChibitodd 3 года назад

    I picked up a usc a month ago. Moved to Texas and did the ump conversion. Mags in the mail! I'll be shooting it for the first time next week

  • @danielburgess7785
    @danielburgess7785 4 года назад +9

    "wandering off a bit" Dude, wander all you like. It's all good.

  • @Leander_
    @Leander_ 4 года назад +7

    Ian really, REALLY got a large amount of material from H&K's grey room. Absolutely fantastic stuff as always Ian!

  • @ruffynowa580
    @ruffynowa580 4 года назад +8

    rumors say ian hides a tent in the H&K Grayroom

  • @BokoDisraeli
    @BokoDisraeli 4 года назад

    Hey Ian, I got my copy of Chassepot to FAMAS today. Not quite one to two weeks after all. While I have a cursory knowledge of these weapons thanks mostly to your channel, I look forwards to learning more about them through your book. The volume itself is an aesthetic masterpiece and the quality of construction is high. Congratulations on a job well done and I hope you enjoy the continuing satisfaction of informing and educating others.

  • @johnstacy7902
    @johnstacy7902 4 года назад +143

    The 3 down votes are Sig MPX owners.

    • @YouTubeViolates1A
      @YouTubeViolates1A 4 года назад +5

      Haha! Perhaps. I like all three though. I trust the MP5 the most, like the MPX the most, yet I am more interested in the UMP as a firearm.

    • @johnbacon4997
      @johnbacon4997 4 года назад

      @@RUclipsViolates1A everyone wants the gun they cannot easily access

    • @bluecaptainIT
      @bluecaptainIT 4 года назад +1

      @@johnbacon4997 huh, that explains why I want ALL of them!

  • @DEADhands.
    @DEADhands. 3 года назад +1

    H&K just has a good line up of guns.
    I still can’t get over how truly quiet the mp5sd is.

  • @jackmcslay
    @jackmcslay 4 года назад +28

    2:07 doesn't have the same ring as "RTFM"

  • @Anthony_thom92
    @Anthony_thom92 Год назад +2

    It’s a real shame we have a ban on newly manufactured machine guns.. I’d love to have one of these for home defense

  • @comradeautukov977
    @comradeautukov977 4 года назад +11

    This isn't my introduction, Battlefield 4 where every engineer for a year was using this frikken thing

  • @paythepiper6283
    @paythepiper6283 4 года назад

    My old qual shoot for the SMP - MP5 - was a 15cm circle target at 10m in low light, full kit including gas mask. We upgraded to the UMP in .40 cal. We were passing the qual shoot, which was reasonable hard with the MP5 on single shot, on 3 round burst with the UMP. Most accurate, and the most comfortable to hold, weapon I ever used.

  • @ABCEDEFG911
    @ABCEDEFG911 4 года назад +11

    It kinda has low damage with low fire rate, unless you have good aim its hard to get headshots with it and the kill time on 3 armor attackers is long...
    Not to mention you cant put an ACOG on it.

  • @Keichwoud357
    @Keichwoud357 3 года назад +2

    This is one of those guns that are seen the most in films and games.

  • @jeremypomroy2307
    @jeremypomroy2307 4 года назад +6

    Brings back MW2 memories.

  • @vetobandito2635
    @vetobandito2635 4 года назад +2

    oh this weapon has not been forgotten

  • @kenroth87
    @kenroth87 4 года назад +3

    Always love your videos, so informative, stripping the weapons and saying how it all works together is by far my favourite thing about the channel ♥️

  • @arisynily1882
    @arisynily1882 3 года назад +1

    This thing is a really awesome looking piece of engineering, I always loved it

  • @magecraft2
    @magecraft2 4 года назад +15

    Would be interesting for Ian to fire the UMP and compare it to the MP5! I know he was surprised that the mp5 was as good as advertised so his comparison would be informative.

  • @matejmatej3554
    @matejmatej3554 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for producing this video two thumbs up love your channel you are making me smarter every day

  • @den2k885
    @den2k885 4 года назад +37

    Metal powder in a gun. Space technology indeed.

    • @lagg1e
      @lagg1e 3 года назад

      We have already made the perfect submachine gun. What do?
      We can make it maybe cheaper? Instead of metal, we use plastic. Instead of roller delayed blowback... uh... put powder in the bolt.

  • @porgy5978
    @porgy5978 4 года назад

    I've been waiting for this video for such a long time, glad to see Ian come around to finally taking a look at the UMP!

  • @skepticalskeksis221
    @skepticalskeksis221 3 года назад +3

    The integrated dead-blow bolt was really interesting to see. I didn’t know that was a thing.

    • @jic1
      @jic1 3 месяца назад

      That's a feature in the Ruger PC Carbine bolt too, but they do it a bit differently with a solid tungsten weight.

  • @joetuktyyuktuk8635
    @joetuktyyuktuk8635 3 года назад +1

    Not mentioned, but the appeal of an UMP chambered in .45acp is the subsonic nature of the round. Suppressed the sound would be akin to ....thUMP.

  • @helmylaz6690
    @helmylaz6690 4 года назад +90

    UMP 40 is [REDACTED]

  • @RickOAA
    @RickOAA Год назад

    We have one at the shop I work at. In years of use it's only needed one $12 recoil buffer and it's been perfectly reliable. It's incredibly controllable and actually more fun than most others.

  • @MightySavagE
    @MightySavagE 4 года назад +11

    Now I realized that makers of Counter-Strike implemented this single-shot accuracy in the game - no matter what you do (even jumping) the first shot from the UMP is always on point.

    • @MightySavagE
      @MightySavagE 3 года назад

      @@oktayyildirim2911 geberally yeah, that was an exception IIRC. Too lazy to look it up and its been a while since 1.6

    • @oktayyildirim2911
      @oktayyildirim2911 3 года назад +1

      @@MightySavagE Wow, I feel like a total jackass. You're right-in the GoldSrc games, the first shot in each magazine actually is perfectly accurate.

  • @theobuzat9091
    @theobuzat9091 4 года назад +1

    In France, the Police and the Gendarmerie both use the UMP, un both 9mm and 45 acp. They also use the Berretta M12, I think they like the idea of a slow firing smg for police use (I'm not aware of they were ever used but...)

  • @nibblrrr7124
    @nibblrrr7124 3 года назад +2

    5:28 "...and ze bolt doubles as a shaker, for jam sessions during ceasefeuers."

  • @pepperachu
    @pepperachu 4 года назад +1

    I love this gun in game. Usually high powered with a slightly smaller mag

  • @blackknightz5036
    @blackknightz5036 4 года назад +8

    I like how alot of details on the gun is.....................flat~

    • @n7captain916
      @n7captain916 4 года назад

      Shhhhhh, she might hear you!

  • @dylanbrady4587
    @dylanbrady4587 4 года назад

    I went to an indoor range with an old buddy and he decided to rent a UMP.45 ,best decision of the day ,it was my first time shooting a real full auto smg, it was a fun experience by far. The only down side was the cost of Ammo at the range.

  • @jokerobama6857
    @jokerobama6857 Год назад +7

    That's my wife

  • @Baz-ms7pb
    @Baz-ms7pb 4 года назад

    Got to fire one at Kirkuk AFB around 2007, the resident SF team there had a .45 acp model in the team armory. Nice gun.

  • @blizlake
    @blizlake 4 года назад +21

    Never have I been this early before. This was a good day, especially when it's an UMP video.

  • @jesseshin2532
    @jesseshin2532 4 года назад +1

    The bane of all castle players. With that 600 rpm good luck outpeeking an r4c

  • @stremmify
    @stremmify 4 года назад +51

    "I want the oomp!" (c) Nevile

    • @TheOzTurkish
      @TheOzTurkish 4 года назад +11

      "fwuk you bith"

    • @dak4465
      @dak4465 4 года назад +10

      MAH NEEM INT NEVIL YOU BITH
      Never thought i would see this crossover

    • @GHOST1445
      @GHOST1445 4 года назад +5

      Oh, it's HolyN'Evil

    • @mdc2296
      @mdc2296 4 года назад +4

      Cam in de butbut

    • @dak4465
      @dak4465 4 года назад +4

      Cam tha aero

  • @I_am_ENSanity
    @I_am_ENSanity 3 года назад +2

    One of the guns I want the most!

  • @ratscoot
    @ratscoot 4 года назад +4

    The 9mm is now popular with European police. Epecially in France police is patrolling the streets with a UMP.

    • @brokenspine66
      @brokenspine66 4 года назад +3

      It is and always was, the French choose the UMP in 9mm over the MP5 simply because of its lower price point.

    • @ratscoot
      @ratscoot 4 года назад +5

      @@brokenspine66 Especially since the islamist terror attacks French police has upgraded. A few years ago you could still see use them use MAT 49 and mini 14's. Now it's UMP and G36.

    • @brokenspine66
      @brokenspine66 4 года назад +1

      @@ratscoot I guess the price point was a important factor to outfit the regular Police and [Non-Military] Anti-Terror units and they have 4 kinds of them: RAID "Recherche, Assistance, Intervention, Dissuasion"; GIGN "Groupe d'Intervention de la Gendarmerie Nationale"; GIPN "Groupes d'Intervention de la Police Nationale"; BRI "Brigade de recherche et d'intervention"....besides the French's military switch from their aged FAMAS to the H&K 416F.

    • @ratscoot
      @ratscoot 4 года назад +1

      @@brokenspine66 indeed. In most West European country's regular police can only carry semi auto 9mm carbines. Specialised units can carry 5.56 rifles. {Or 300 blk).

    • @brokenspine66
      @brokenspine66 4 года назад +1

      @@ratscoot In most European country's, they use very rarely 5.56, in a Police/Anti-Terror role, the biggest problem is over penetration, at least here in Germany MP5's are the standard for decades but move more and more to the MP7, some special Police units use G36C and some SIG MCX and in Bavaria FN SCAR.

  • @patm95
    @patm95 4 года назад +1

    Grea video. I would like to see addressed the ejection port size on the receiver. I have a hunch that they enlarged the ejection port on later models to better accommodate 9mm ejection issues. However I have not seen anywhere that was documented. This model here seems to have the smaller ejection port.

  • @borismuller86
    @borismuller86 4 года назад +3

    I get the impression that Ian is one of the few non-H&K employees to have unrestricted access to that grey room.

  • @corey8420
    @corey8420 4 года назад +1

    I used the UMP .45 at work and it is by far my most favorite gun ever. It is the easiest gun to shoot and amazing accurate out to 100 yards. I have shot 10s of thousands of rounds out of the one I used not ever one malfunction

  • @immajellal5325
    @immajellal5325 4 года назад +51

    Ah yes Thot Twin 1, 2 and 3. Best SMGfus

  • @doompotty
    @doompotty 4 года назад +1

    I do also remember hearing that they wanted versions in .357 mag but I don't know if they ever got off paper. Would be interesting to hear about those or other magnum chambered SMGs!

  • @adam3651
    @adam3651 4 года назад +13

    Wow the cz evo 3 truely is a slimmed down ump

    • @Taistelukalkkuna
      @Taistelukalkkuna 4 года назад +3

      Saw article, that Finnish Police is thinking of changing MP5´s to EVO 3.

    • @Kar98killme
      @Kar98killme 4 года назад +1

      The evo 3 is an angry ump

    • @adam3651
      @adam3651 4 года назад +2

      @cody sonnet yeah I've seen that too, not an issue with full autos but the semi auto conversion is flawed by cz in it's out of battery safety mechanism or lack of effective one. Seems binary triggers are the ones that blow up

    • @MrGoogle87
      @MrGoogle87 4 года назад

      Taistelukalkkuna Got a link to that article? Would love that :)

  • @MightyGaius
    @MightyGaius 4 года назад

    Another great upload, Ian!!
    Keep it up,
    Me and my Twin think the UMP is badass,
    Keep rocking !
    🇨🇦😎

  • @_faultee_
    @_faultee_ 4 года назад +61

    Sorry I couldnt stop staring at that beauty on the wall above ur left shoulder.

    • @dak4465
      @dak4465 4 года назад +1

      Our left or his left. Because that g36 is what ive been looking at

    • @Shepard_AU
      @Shepard_AU 4 года назад

      I do really like those USP's

  • @rocket5557
    @rocket5557 2 года назад

    We had these at work. They were awesome, light and handy but never really caught on sadly. Very controllable in full auto. They got rid of them and ordered APC 9s which we have yet to see.

  • @phillipsheldon5663
    @phillipsheldon5663 4 года назад +6

    I am starting to think that "Gun Jesus" travels/films for 6 months then edits for 3 then relaxes for 3

  • @tortillajoe235
    @tortillajoe235 4 года назад

    I never forgot this one.

  • @salamander4668
    @salamander4668 4 года назад +137

    Family :3

  • @PatgaW609
    @PatgaW609 4 года назад

    I have recently started playing UMP in new Modern Warfare and this video suddenly showed up today.
    You truly ARE a Gun Jesus.