when you "work through the pain" and you get older.. not only you but your loved ones pay the price.. speaking from experience being a caregiver for my stepfather from the age of 13. Props to him for knowing limits and going home. There are always other jobs and opportunities. no job is worth destroying your body for.
They don’t call working in the Bering sea one of the deadliest professions for no reason. If your not willing to give your all to complete the job, you only tend to bring down the total output of the crew and there’s no reason for you to even be near Alaska. Just my opinion 😤
They weren't going have him out on deck. I've seen the injured guy run the kitchen and pull watch while the others sleep in the past. It really makes a difference to the crew to come in to a hot meal on the table as soon as they are off deck instead of having to start cooking when all they want is sleep.
I can barely get out of bed most days. Worked my ass off in my younger days in NYC for 20 years until I hurt my back so bad. After 3 surgeries on back it barely helped..Now I'm disabled for the end of days. Sucks
@@robertjohns7932 People who don’t struggle with chronic pain don’t seem to understand. I had a near fatal car accident in 1993 and bad work injuries in 2009. My whole life I was told to man up…I did. I was medically retired in 2013, and after a six year battle, I won my ssdi. I’ve had 21 surgeries since 1993. I’m being told I will need more, but because I look fine on the outside, I always get ridiculed and struggle to get doctors to believe me. Not looking for any sympathy, just agreeing with you. I hope you’re doing as well as you can.
yep i am a concreter and my old supervisor was the hardest worker i had ever met, now in his late fiftys he can barely walk or move properly and his favourite saying is back in my day i would have lifted that by myself or i would have done that on my own and the comeback was to always ask him how that worked out for him because none of us wanted to be like that when we got to his age.
After 20 years at sea and being a captain for 7 i would never say that to a person. Im reaping what you sow now i was never going to force that on my young guys. Good on john. Most skippers are the opporsite
I have mixed feelings about this. Iv always tried to work through pain /injuries but I ripped ligaments and tendons in my wrist this year and was on the bench for 2 months. I felt I had to make that choice cause it was redundant to be at work not at full potential and risky I could have damaged it permanently more so than I have. The guy made the right choice for his health, not so much for the family or the boat, but he did the right thing for him.
agreed, but he could have made an agreement he would be on light duty which included sorting crab, chopping bait, making coffee and cooking to be a team player with an agreement he would NOT use his arm. He would have been respected but he just doesn't have the heart of a fisherman.
This is one of the most toxic things about a boss who sees employees as a tool rather than a human being. It's in so many industries that involve physical labor. Don't lower yourself to an object. He made the right choice for himself, and that's all he should care about.
Employees are tools, you use them for what they are for, I get you can have some compassion but in this it means a whole lot more than what you get paid or don't, it means what everyone else gets paid, literally, so it's a bit different
Ya... like especially in front of a camera. Like I get shitty people do shitty things, but why would you continue to do shitty things on a TV show in front of millions of people? I don't get it
I’m surprised the captain was so pissed. It’s a shoulder injury and crabbing is a strenuous job for the upper body. I have a torn labrum and it’s difficult to even “twist the wrist”.
Yeah but he can run hydros cook clean do maintenance in the engine room theres stuff he could have done that wouldnt have hindered his shoulder but his heart wasnt in it plain and simple so probably smart he left
Did you see him packing that bag at the end? He's using both arms and you can't even begin to tell which one is supposed to be hurt. His shoulder is fine.
@@alaskaguyd963 We can’t really prove the injury or not but packing your bag is different than moving heavy weight for hours on end...I get what your saying though. Certain movements and strain cause pain...I can do yard work fine but sitting at my desk and moving a mouse left/right for 10 hours hurts me more than other seemingly strenuous activities.
@@mjgasiecki This is supposed to be a fresh injury that's bad enough he needs a month of rest. When I separate or even sublux it, it becomes stiff for a few days. Even when I don't have a sling I hang on to the collar above my opposite shoulder and let my arm hang as that's by far the most comfortable position to be in.
I knew a guy in high school, big strong guy. In football he was a monster and in the weight room he was a beast. In one game he tore his shoulder and was never the same. I’ve seen him squat 500 lbs as a freshman and deadlift 700 lbs, but because of that shoulder he couldn’t even bench 200 lbs and before that he was doing 300 no problem
Weights and weightlifting give you temporary plastic muscles, thats it.. once you stop working out your temporary muscles shrink, the guy shouldn't left the heavy shit alone and started slow strength training.. thats what all the best physically strong fighters do.
i blew out my l5 disk years ago, was in pain but pushed through it and kept working..ended up blowing out l3 and 4 also ..that whole "work through the pain crap is just that..crap ..i have to spend the rest of my life in pain wile the company i worked for gets richer and richer
It pisses me off when someone try’s to guilt trip another person into “push through the pain.” I had a L2 compression fracture at 18 in 1993. I had two fusions at L1/L2 and hardware installed. In 1995 the hardware was removed because it was tearing through my skin. I started having issues in 2004. I was told I was too young for more fusions and to take pain pills as long as I could. In 2009 I was injured on the job. Tore tendons in my left ankle and smacked the back of my head on a concrete floor. I was refused treatment for a year by work comp because the doctor kept saying nothing was wrong. I’ve now had five surgeries on the tendons (2010, 2012, 2014, 2017, 2018) and I’m needing another surgery. Unfortunately the tendons are so deteriorated, I don’t know what can be repaired. The head injury was never treated or accepted by work comp. I now get constant migraines. I had bilateral carpal tunnel surgeries in 2016 because supposedly that’s what was causing the tingling and pins/needles in my fingers. Turns out it was my neck causing the issues, but because it wasn’t looked at after bouncing my head off the floor, no one listened to my complaints of feeling like I was holding onto an electric fence for 6 years. The surgeon butchered my hands and now I have permanent nerve damage in both of them. My neck has bulging discs and pinched nerve roots from C2-C6. I had a herniated and ruptured disc at C6/C7 that was removed, a cage installed, vertebrae fused, and a plate installed in 2021. I was just informed that I’m going to need the rest of my neck fused. My back from L1-L3 are bulging discs and L3-S1 are degenerative discs, so I will need fusions there too. I was told earlier this year that my right hip needs to be replaced too. All because doctors told me to man up and deal with the pain by taking pills. My whole life I was raised to ignore the pain. I can’t do anything about that now, but I try to talk to people who I know are suffering to explain they only have one body, one life, one chance. Don’t screw it up because of ego and pride.
Working through the pain especially with men is important. But more important is knowing the limit. Because these people telling you to push harder aren’t going to be there to care for you when you’re maimed and can’t walk or do things you used to. Plus we don’t have the same net that a lot of people had back then. Watch out for yourself. Him saying “if you Leave I probably won’t ever hire you again.” That’s probably the first time I ever lost respect for John H.
Oh yea I’ve fucked up my shoulder ribs ect while working out of town a few times my boss called me up to the office he said you wanna go home cuz we don’t have a hospital i said fuck keep me working we have shit to finish he said Jesus for 20 your definitely tough told him parents were born in the 50s gave me a work ethic unlike most people my age here get a little cut and they quit
Yeah my shoulder is so bad I sometimes dislocate it rolling over in my sleep or just reaching out to flush the toilet. And I can bet you 100% his arm is fine. 7:20 He's wrestling with that bag to get it packed and you can't even begin to tell what arm is supposed to be hurt. He isn't even bothering to pretend at that point.
@@alaskaguyd963 right. If ur arm is that fucked ur practically in tears. U cant pick nothing up can't push or pull on anything. It's bad. Mine's so screwed i think im gonna have to file for disability. Cuz i have no insurance... It's like i have one arm. Sucks.
The whole if you don't work through the pain/injury you're no good is BS! He's a young guy who could face serious repercussions for the rest of his life. And so called family business but doesn't support the health n well being of someone is disgusting....😞
@@cal-king injuries like this take longer than just 4 weeks to heal. It may be estimated to take that long, but majority always has it lasting longer than specified. If not given the time to heal fully, it could leave him with lasting effects that could possibly stick with him for the rest of his life. For a lot of people, their job is just not worth receiving lasting complications to their health. And whos to say that they would have even allowed him to rest that long? And it wouldn't have even been the captain, the crew would have made his life more hell that it already had been. From what I've seen, the crews of the ships don't always have the same thought process and morals that the Captain's do. While John may be a good man who tries to keep his crew's health in mind, his crew very well would make Philip's time onboard be hell. Especially Freddy. They would have only seen him as a liability, and done their best to get him to either snap and start a fight, or break and leave. Phill may have seen this and decided, combined with the injury, that it just wasn't worth it. His health and wellbeing are more important than the job. And who's to say that it's be the last time he'd be on a boat? Just because John won't hire him doesn't mean another ship won't. Maybe he might pick another job instead of fishing or crabbing.
@@moxxiiscarlett7141 sounds a lot like pussy talk to me. 🤷♂️ shit happens, you suck it the fuck up or be known as not worth the time. Thats how the fishing industry is.
I sure miss Phil. He was one of my very favorite. All the guys are awesome. But for some reason, Phil was the top dog. RIP Phil you're loved and missed..Jonathan and Sig are pretty frickin cool also. 😎
Went thru a hip replacement and the doctor tried to get me to file for disability. I had worked my entire life, it was the only thing I knew and I knew jack all about disability or any other Gov. agency or how they would keep me and my family afloat. So I went back to work and 3 years later that hip replacement was trashed. I then spent 4 1/2 years on crutches mainly because when the hip went out I was between insurance plans. I finally got a second hip replacement, listened to the doctors this time and filed for my disability. It was something I never expected to have to do in my life but ill tell you im damn glad of all those years working and paying taxes because it majorly affects the amount you receive. I dont bring home even 25% of what I did when I was working but I get by.
I've seen him do this several times for the camera pretending to care about his crew, or the guy that went overboard "incident". Unfortunately Mr. Hillstrand would expect you to continue working with broken legs, you are only a "good guy" if you make him money, by far the most uncaring Skipper in the fleet over his crew or others
I work for a national porta pot company...I was thinking of starting a reality show to dramatize the ups and downs of the industry..call it the Deadliest Stench
“This company said they had a ten man crew but in fact brought in 20 guys. I don’t know how we’ll be able to handle these extra 20 gallons of shit.” *cue dramatic music* “This could cost us the whole season we have to get our shit together”
I worked through the pain many times doing hardwood floors for 30years now I spend 3\4 of my days in bed cuz my back hurts so bad I want to cry and do most days. Wish I never did!!!!
My father worked through some tough injuries, and is now a severely beat up old man in constant pain. Jon's pressuring to work through this is something I can't agree with at all. He is a person, not a another expendable machine of your boat
"we can put your arm in a sling and you can still work and finish out the season, but if you go home now, I probably wont ever hire you again." shortly after tells camera man: "I will never make a guy work that is injured"
and shortly before that shows the guy bending and moving his whole hurting' arm around. theres a big difference between injured and sore, the kid is just being a woos and not wanting to work
if u continue to work, after the job is long gone u will still be in shoulder pain. after 5 years of quitting my job where i was at 10 years, i have shoulder pain and will have it til the end. stinky jobs aint worth ur health, if you dont have health you dont have anything.
I would have said sure I’ll say I’ll drive the boat with my good arm and since you (captain) have no injuries you can take my place. I worked through injuries before and one injury I had to my shoulder didn’t heal properly so I have pain, don’t have full movement and if I over work it I get a flare up so I can’t use it for 1 week. I broke a bone in the top of my foot I didn’t go to hospital so it healed wrong and if I use my foot in a way that a lot of pressure is on the top of my foot I will have a flare up and be in a TON of pain and I also get flare ups if my foot hangs over the bed not supported and when this happens it takes 2 weeks to go away it hurts more then breaking a bone. When I went to the doctor for it finally they did X-rays and told me that it broke at some point and healed wrong. The doctor said he couldn’t believe that I didn’t go to the hospital when I broke it because the break was so bad judging how it healed that they would have wanted to do surgery. It’s not worth working injured
I would have made a deal with the Captain that I would work, wouldn't be as effective and would just sort the crab or chop bait while in a sling just to be a team player. You don't want to get a quitter reputation in that field of work. I've worked on a boat out of Seward, it's just how it works in Alaska.
Fishing is insanely tough. It's not that you HAVE to work through the pain of an injury, and going home can definitely be the right thing to do! But if you have wear and tear on your body that's a liability at sea and a negative consideration in hiring :(. If you get replaced and everyone's doing the job well you don't necessarily have a spot, that's always how it is. They usually stay friends and know other boats or often come back after some time if they do want to stick around. You can stay on the boat and rest and cook or clean one-armed and things like that. Respect the man said it was his last season anyway. I could not hack it at all.
agreed. I fish and that contract is your word you will stay. I tore up my palm with a knife that needed 14 stitches. I couldn't bend it which made it useless. Hurt like a bitch! Captain knew I was effed up. Told him I want to stay and just do anything I can do with one hand but I needed him to understand I was very limited but wanted to stay. Also told him I needed a day off as it was really messed up. I wrapped my hand in a few plastic bags with tape, chopped bait, sorted the best I could, made coffee for the crew, took care of their wet clothes etc. From that I got mad respect which built a tight bond of respect. That is everything on a boat.
what actually was he going to do without a useable arm on board for a month? like, at that point he's just soaking up supplies until he's able to use the arm safely. it sucks, and yeah Jonathan needs to find a replacement worker...but that replacement will be able to work and contribute from the start.
Who saw that “Do not exceed 4,200lbs per shelf” scratched out to 420. Alright, alright. These guys like to spend some time with Mary Jane 😂 Nothing wrong with that, I’m sure it helps the pain!
I had a rotator cuff injury at work and kept pushing thru the pain. Once the season was finished I got it seen to by doctors and was not called back to work. The doctor tore strip's off me for not going sooner. 8 years later it's still not healed and never will be. Don't ever be stupid enough to assume that you are anything but a number to employers
But He’s got a bad attitude towards his employees health! He made the guy choose his health over his job rather than telling him to get well and he would have him back next season. Bad captain, bad dude.
@@nobodyspecial6436 I've worked with captains that'll plays games there whole watch atleast when we're not actively working or where out in the open water
I was being sarcastic…. I’m gonna assume you got the joke…..and i’ve never been out there but i can imagine most of the time it’s NOT like you see on Deadliest Catch
Sorry but just like in sports...work/play hurt is one thing...but to work/play injured...may be something you never recover from.. from a sports perspective ask Grant Hill or Kevin McHale (he's still limping)!
Yeah, being "though" and just work through it in this case is just a plain dumb idea. He took the right choice and went home. What is it worth to be "tough", work one season and mess your body up for life?
@@Rakku Yeah Johnathan brought up his Dad...well...my Dad was the same way. But the opportunities for them were slim back then...they had no choice but to tough it out
It is one thing to work through the pain, but if he had...was the captain gonna pay to take care of him for the rest of his life if it became irreparable? Probably not.
I feel like they both had serious injuries. Its weird that one was able to leave in the good graces of the captain while the other was labeled a a quitter. "unless you have a bone sticking out you work" I didn't see a bone sticking out of the first dude.
I would always work through the pain when I was younger. It was the Coast Guard so different circumstances. Here I am in my 40s and my body shouldn't feel like it does.
The mark of a small man is insulting someone as they leave: "you're hurting me so I'm going to hurt you too!" I worked through injuries, blah-blah-blah. That's why you can barely walk now, Jon. This is a job. A job that kid is lucky he walked away from while he still could.
i understand its hard for capts to see past faking bullshit or the workers faking excuses but the worker made the right choice...health is your wealth....end of
That four week recovery could turn into a 4 month recovery after surgery had he stayed on. That was a shitty ultimatum he gave him. Work now and never fish anywhere again ever or I won’t hire you again. Nah, he made the right choice.
I see people shitting on Johnathan but in this fishing industry it is what it is. I would rather have a boss that is straight and just tells you how it is, then not have an answer at all. This job just wasn't for that guy, that's just how life is sometimes.
in fairness to Johnathan, Phil has been injured almost every single time he has gone out on deck, kid is a walking liability, how long until he got really fucked up?
Keep the boat clean and keep hot coffee and food coming for the other guys. Going home just wouldn’t feel right. But hey, that’s just me, each person’s gotta do what is right for them. Got big respect for the guy for going in the first place. FWAFS.
i got a bad back injury at work they wanted me to keep going i couldnt stand up straight. dont ever bust you ass for companys they dont care about you. if you cant make money they will throw you on the streets and say good luck
Plenty guys try. Maybe 1 in 10 can mentally and physically do the job. Maybe 1 in 10 of them don't have a drug or alcohol problem. That gives U about 1 guy that's worth keeping out of every ten you give a go to
Working through the pain when you're young puts you in a wheel chair when you're old. I work a physically demanding job, suffered injuries, worked through them and then got wise. I wrecked my back before I was 30. Now I tell all the newbies if they get injured just get a doctor's note and stay home. Making a few extra bucks this year and ending up on the disabled list at 40. It's just not worth it in the long run.
dude had an injury that takes 3 months to fully recover. 3 months of not using the arm. whats the point of having dead weight for 3 months on your ship unless he is going to push him to work once "he thinks" the dude is better. he didn't treat him at all like Eddie just beacuse he was "family"
@@samlawrenz9795 clearly have never worked on the ocean, unless your body is useless and you’re in so much pain you can’t handle it, you keep working, you don’t sit around staring at the ceiling with a shit eating grin on your face while everyone else works, unless you broke something, man up… you get a big boy check and your medical bills payed for free and clear, not everyone is cut out for a life at sea
@@samlawrenz9795 you’re either a man and hope you’ll be able to work through it, or you bitch out and run home, he already made up his mind that he didn’t want to be there anyway, just stick to your office
@@ilikedmmcd7151 commercial scalloper here on the east coast. Unless you're dying or dead, you work. If the injury is really bad, you won't lay down. I depend on my crew every trip. They can work together like no other,even if theg have to pull it out their ass.
Thats the difference between old school and new school i was taught by old school guys you learn to work your butt off and do as you’re told because they will able to feed to tons of useful information to help you succeed in that field
Boss: "Work while injured or quit." Me: "Let me heal to be able to work the way you want me to work, or get sued for worker's comp." Workers could respond that way. You don't make a guy quit for healing time. Workers want to go back to work, but they need to heal to be able to work.
Since the injury has already been documented and was recommended minimum 4 weeks to recover after surgery, you wouldn't have a case since you decided to continue working even with the injury
@@absolutez3r019 It said nothing about any surgery. You made that up. He said 4 weeks of rest. He's not even in a sling... 7:20 I've been dealing with shoulder injuries for 20 years and there's no way he can wrestle with his bags like that with the injury he's pretending to have. Shoulders injuries one of the most commonly faked injuries. They don't swell up or black and blue like an ankle or knee would so they are easy to fake.
Being someone that is in management at my job and having my own family work under me in the past... I can say that it is a lot tougher to have these talks with family, than with a regular employee. Some people cannot understand that this is just business. At the end of the day, they are still kin and should still love each other!
Notice that wont wear any protection gear. This is stupidity catch. Most injuries could be avoided or be protected from at least partially if one cared.
Young kid so probably could’ve worked through it but that’s also one of the toughest jobs in the world and if he had gone and was slowing the rest of the team down then they probably would of ripped into him. Jonathan is very old school and probably doesn’t understand not working through pain. Different times and different generation for better or worse.
I have known Eddies family for over 40 years. What I can say of the three generations I know is that they are tough, strong and proud men. Men of honor. It hurt Eddie to his core that the doc told him to go home. He doesn't owe the boat anything, he has no ownership or legacy except that of hard and honest work. Wyatt on the other hand, is a Hillstrand by blood but not by attitude. He wanted the money but was not willing to do the work. I am not saying he faked an injury, just that his grandfather would have disowned him. As for Jonathan's words, he was crushed that his own family would not stay on the boat to do whatever he could to help out - there are a hundred things that can be done on a boat without stressing that shoulder. Wyatt does not have the heart of a fisherman.
Very true, he could have done simple jobs, the crew would have been OK with it, he would have gotten respect and he would be sticking to his oath of the contract as that is man's word he will stick it out. He could have sorted the crab, chopped bait, made coffee, cooked etc all while in the sling. You are right, he just doesn't have the heart of a fisherman and sadly, feels like, and will be treated like, an outcast because of it by his family. I'm in Alaska and have fished. I know how it is up here.
Give me a break, youre so gullible to the garbage this show spews. This show jumped the shark, 10 years ago, far worse than Fonzie ever could have. Its as fake and staged as could be. TRASH.
The skipper talks like he know about the body, he doesn't know that the shoulder is one of the most complex joints and if you don't heal it you could ruin it for life. Don't listen to Dr. Hillstrand who is the doctor of crab haha. Dude the shoulder is not a crab pincher.
I've worked crews where we just do our work in silence and only communicate when needed, this loud school girl screaming and yodiling by these boat crews would drive me insane.. but i guess its a Amrican thing, just like the way they call pickup trucks cars, lol
If he stays, he is the one who pays the price. In 15 years when his shoulder still doesn't work properly and he can't get another job, that's when he is in trouble. Jonathan is the biggest douce going for this
Better leave than live the rest of his lifetime in constant pain from a fucked shoulder. Boomers are the absolute worst and so are you. Fucking retard.
Some jobs are just heavy manual labor, and you need to be 100%healthy, I did drilling rigs in my youth and seen my share of injuries that seemed minor and turned out to be detrimental after a few months, safety first you can always make money you can't make vertebrates protect the 33 you have they have to last a lifetime!!! 2022
Take care of your minds and bodies you people. *Believe me* when I tell that you actually aren't made out of steel and that ignoring injuries eventually catch up with you.
I worked thru the pain and broken bones and torn ligaments and torn muscles. Now I'm medically retired and the companies I killed myself for could give a shit. DONT DO IT, LET THEM BE PISSED AS THEY WANT TO BE.
“Prob won’t hire you again…. I love you man”. This is the problem with people in power. How can he recover on the boat working with a damaged rotator cuff??? He puts him in the position of having to “quit” rather than TELLING him to take medical leave…. How about saying “get well and can’t wate to have you back aboard next season” like I don’t understand these captains or any boss who doesn’t get it…. End of the day he didn’t have the balls to tell him to take a recovery break just so he could tell people he quit.
All you guys are missing the point if it was really serious the doctor would not let him return to the boat. The captain could put him on light duty do the bait traps cook the meals for the crew clean cabins something you are still contributing
That injury is serious, it could have gotten alot worse and ruined his shoulder for the rest of his life if he kept working, however he was done anyway so be it
He simply asked him to stay on the boat lmao, he didn’t say he was going to work him like a dog, just simply help him when he feels comfortable while also giving him a paycheck for being there, instead he made up the decision fishing wasn’t for him anyway and wanted to go home
@@ilikedmmcd7151 You know that if you are on a fishing boat, you are going to work your ass off, injured or not. What point would there be to just have him stay on the boat? He obviously was going to use him for work. There is no other point to have someone on board otherwise.
I wish I hadn’t worked through the pain when I had a shoulder injury. 5 years later it’s still not right.
He made the right choice to go home.
I had a buddy do the same thing as you. 4 shoulder surgeries later and he can barely raise his arm up. I agree he made the right call
Back when .... if you were able to stand...you were good to go !
@@michaelschneider2874 back when.... practically nobody lived to see 70
its a pretty dick move to guilt trip a young guy like that he could have fucked himself up for life so yer 100% right
They put him on light duty if it was serious enough the doctor wouldn’t let him return to the boat
when you "work through the pain" and you get older.. not only you but your loved ones pay the price.. speaking from experience being a caregiver for my stepfather from the age of 13. Props to him for knowing limits and going home. There are always other jobs and opportunities. no job is worth destroying your body for.
They don’t call working in the Bering sea one of the deadliest professions for no reason. If your not willing to give your all to complete the job, you only tend to bring down the total output of the crew and there’s no reason for you to even be near Alaska. Just my opinion 😤
They weren't going have him out on deck.
I've seen the injured guy run the kitchen and pull watch while the others sleep in the past.
It really makes a difference to the crew to come in to a hot meal on the table as soon as they are off deck instead of having to start cooking when all they want is sleep.
So he went home and is still fucked up idk
I can barely get out of bed most days. Worked my ass off in my younger days in NYC for 20 years until I hurt my back so bad. After 3 surgeries on back it barely helped..Now I'm disabled for the end of days. Sucks
@@robertjohns7932 People who don’t struggle with chronic pain don’t seem to understand. I had a near fatal car accident in 1993 and bad work injuries in 2009. My whole life I was told to man up…I did. I was medically retired in 2013, and after a six year battle, I won my ssdi. I’ve had 21 surgeries since 1993. I’m being told I will need more, but because I look fine on the outside, I always get ridiculed and struggle to get doctors to believe me. Not looking for any sympathy, just agreeing with you. I hope you’re doing as well as you can.
yep i am a concreter and my old supervisor was the hardest worker i had ever met, now in his late fiftys he can barely walk or move properly and his favourite saying is back in my day i would have lifted that by myself or i would have done that on my own and the comeback was to always ask him how that worked out for him because none of us wanted to be like that when we got to his age.
After 20 years at sea and being a captain for 7 i would never say that to a person. Im reaping what you sow now i was never going to force that on my young guys. Good on john. Most skippers are the opporsite
I have mixed feelings about this. Iv always tried to work through pain /injuries but I ripped ligaments and tendons in my wrist this year and was on the bench for 2 months. I felt I had to make that choice cause it was redundant to be at work not at full potential and risky I could have damaged it permanently more so than I have. The guy made the right choice for his health, not so much for the family or the boat, but he did the right thing for him.
agreed, but he could have made an agreement he would be on light duty which included sorting crab, chopping bait, making coffee and cooking to be a team player with an agreement he would NOT use his arm. He would have been respected but he just doesn't have the heart of a fisherman.
This is one of the most toxic things about a boss who sees employees as a tool rather than a human being. It's in so many industries that involve physical labor. Don't lower yourself to an object. He made the right choice for himself, and that's all he should care about.
If he'd have fallen and gotten even more injured, that wouldn't have been on him, that'd have been on the Captain for guilting him into staying.
Employees are tools, you use them for what they are for, I get you can have some compassion but in this it means a whole lot more than what you get paid or don't, it means what everyone else gets paid, literally, so it's a bit different
Ya... like especially in front of a camera. Like I get shitty people do shitty things, but why would you continue to do shitty things on a TV show in front of millions of people? I don't get it
@@robertbradford3461 yea, ur right but its not spouse to be like that when the captains next sentence is were all like family here.
You must be a zoomer
I never knew when to stop and trust me all the injuries I have had over the years have caught up with me big time
I’m surprised the captain was so pissed. It’s a shoulder injury and crabbing is a strenuous job for the upper body. I have a torn labrum and it’s difficult to even “twist the wrist”.
Yeah but he can run hydros cook clean do maintenance in the engine room theres stuff he could have done that wouldnt have hindered his shoulder but his heart wasnt in it plain and simple so probably smart he left
Did you see him packing that bag at the end? He's using both arms and you can't even begin to tell which one is supposed to be hurt. His shoulder is fine.
@@alaskaguyd963 We can’t really prove the injury or not but packing your bag is different than moving heavy weight for hours on end...I get what your saying though. Certain movements and strain cause pain...I can do yard work fine but sitting at my desk and moving a mouse left/right for 10 hours hurts me more than other seemingly strenuous activities.
@@mjgasiecki This is supposed to be a fresh injury that's bad enough he needs a month of rest. When I separate or even sublux it, it becomes stiff for a few days. Even when I don't have a sling I hang on to the collar above my opposite shoulder and let my arm hang as that's by far the most comfortable position to be in.
I think you had a torn Labia
I dont like how he calls it quitting.....the dude is in pain and doesn't want to spend four weeks on a boat while in pain
Why do u have a problem with things being accurately described?
I knew a guy in high school, big strong guy. In football he was a monster and in the weight room he was a beast. In one game he tore his shoulder and was never the same. I’ve seen him squat 500 lbs as a freshman and deadlift 700 lbs, but because of that shoulder he couldn’t even bench 200 lbs and before that he was doing 300 no problem
Did he eat milk and cookies too?...
@@allenmontana2202 idk probably, I mean don’t we all?
Weights and weightlifting give you temporary plastic muscles, thats it.. once you stop working out your temporary muscles shrink, the guy shouldn't left the heavy shit alone and started slow strength training.. thats what all the best physically strong fighters do.
i blew out my l5 disk years ago, was in pain but pushed through it and kept working..ended up blowing out l3 and 4 also ..that whole "work through the pain crap is just that..crap ..i have to spend the rest of my life in pain wile the company i worked for gets richer and richer
It pisses me off when someone try’s to guilt trip another person into “push through the pain.” I had a L2 compression fracture at 18 in 1993. I had two fusions at L1/L2 and hardware installed. In 1995 the hardware was removed because it was tearing through my skin. I started having issues in 2004. I was told I was too young for more fusions and to take pain pills as long as I could.
In 2009 I was injured on the job. Tore tendons in my left ankle and smacked the back of my head on a concrete floor. I was refused treatment for a year by work comp because the doctor kept saying nothing was wrong. I’ve now had five surgeries on the tendons (2010, 2012, 2014, 2017, 2018) and I’m needing another surgery. Unfortunately the tendons are so deteriorated, I don’t know what can be repaired.
The head injury was never treated or accepted by work comp. I now get constant migraines. I had bilateral carpal tunnel surgeries in 2016 because supposedly that’s what was causing the tingling and pins/needles in my fingers. Turns out it was my neck causing the issues, but because it wasn’t looked at after bouncing my head off the floor, no one listened to my complaints of feeling like I was holding onto an electric fence for 6 years. The surgeon butchered my hands and now I have permanent nerve damage in both of them.
My neck has bulging discs and pinched nerve roots from C2-C6. I had a herniated and ruptured disc at C6/C7 that was removed, a cage installed, vertebrae fused, and a plate installed in 2021. I was just informed that I’m going to need the rest of my neck fused. My back from L1-L3 are bulging discs and L3-S1 are degenerative discs, so I will need fusions there too. I was told earlier this year that my right hip needs to be replaced too.
All because doctors told me to man up and deal with the pain by taking pills. My whole life I was raised to ignore the pain. I can’t do anything about that now, but I try to talk to people who I know are suffering to explain they only have one body, one life, one chance. Don’t screw it up because of ego and pride.
The captain says he understands, but tells him he'll never hire him again if he goes home. Alright.
Working through the pain especially with men is important. But more important is knowing the limit. Because these people telling you to push harder aren’t going to be there to care for you when you’re maimed and can’t walk or do things you used to. Plus we don’t have the same net that a lot of people had back then. Watch out for yourself. Him saying “if you
Leave I probably won’t ever hire you again.” That’s probably the first time I ever lost respect for John H.
That shoulder injury is no joke... Do u know how bad that hurts? Geez. Tough bunch of dude's.
Oh yea I’ve fucked up my shoulder ribs ect while working out of town a few times my boss called me up to the office he said you wanna go home cuz we don’t have a hospital i said fuck keep me working we have shit to finish he said Jesus for 20 your definitely tough told him parents were born in the 50s gave me a work ethic unlike most people my age here get a little cut and they quit
@@user-qc7me2hs5c maybe ya hurt it while pattin yourself on the back, ??? 😂.. Ha !
Just kiddin...lol
Yeah my shoulder is so bad I sometimes dislocate it rolling over in my sleep or just reaching out to flush the toilet. And I can bet you 100% his arm is fine. 7:20 He's wrestling with that bag to get it packed and you can't even begin to tell what arm is supposed to be hurt. He isn't even bothering to pretend at that point.
@@alaskaguyd963 right. If ur arm is that fucked ur practically in tears. U cant pick nothing up can't push or pull on anything. It's bad. Mine's so screwed i think im gonna have to file for disability. Cuz i have no insurance... It's like i have one arm. Sucks.
The whole if you don't work through the pain/injury you're no good is BS! He's a young guy who could face serious repercussions for the rest of his life. And so called family business but doesn't support the health n well being of someone is disgusting....😞
He didn't make him work through injury tho, he wanted him to rest on the boat for 4 weeks and finish the season.
@@cal-king injuries like this take longer than just 4 weeks to heal. It may be estimated to take that long, but majority always has it lasting longer than specified. If not given the time to heal fully, it could leave him with lasting effects that could possibly stick with him for the rest of his life. For a lot of people, their job is just not worth receiving lasting complications to their health.
And whos to say that they would have even allowed him to rest that long? And it wouldn't have even been the captain, the crew would have made his life more hell that it already had been.
From what I've seen, the crews of the ships don't always have the same thought process and morals that the Captain's do. While John may be a good man who tries to keep his crew's health in mind, his crew very well would make Philip's time onboard be hell. Especially Freddy. They would have only seen him as a liability, and done their best to get him to either snap and start a fight, or break and leave.
Phill may have seen this and decided, combined with the injury, that it just wasn't worth it. His health and wellbeing are more important than the job. And who's to say that it's be the last time he'd be on a boat? Just because John won't hire him doesn't mean another ship won't. Maybe he might pick another job instead of fishing or crabbing.
@@moxxiiscarlett7141 lmao bro.. it doesn't matter
@@cal-king You think finishing the season means chilling on the boat?
@@moxxiiscarlett7141 sounds a lot like pussy talk to me. 🤷♂️ shit happens, you suck it the fuck up or be known as not worth the time. Thats how the fishing industry is.
I sure miss Phil. He was one of my very favorite. All the guys are awesome. But for some reason, Phil was the top dog. RIP Phil you're loved and missed..Jonathan and Sig are pretty frickin cool also. 😎
Went thru a hip replacement and the doctor tried to get me to file for disability. I had worked my entire life, it was the only thing I knew and I knew jack all about disability or any other Gov. agency or how they would keep me and my family afloat. So I went back to work and 3 years later that hip replacement was trashed. I then spent 4 1/2 years on crutches mainly because when the hip went out I was between insurance plans. I finally got a second hip replacement, listened to the doctors this time and filed for my disability. It was something I never expected to have to do in my life but ill tell you im damn glad of all those years working and paying taxes because it majorly affects the amount you receive. I dont bring home even 25% of what I did when I was working but I get by.
I've seen him do this several times for the camera pretending to care about his crew, or the guy that went overboard "incident". Unfortunately Mr. Hillstrand would expect you to continue working with broken legs, you are only a "good guy" if you make him money, by far the most uncaring Skipper in the fleet over his crew or others
Him and Keith are the worst.
My uncle "worked through the pain" He ended up with chronic life long pain and it literally killed him.
I work for a national porta pot company...I was thinking of starting a reality show to dramatize the ups and downs of the industry..call it the Deadliest Stench
U dump it and we pump it.
@@centermass4962 bro you are dangerous🤣🤣☠
Plagiarism gets you sued. Be careful.
"Kenny"
Aussie comedy.
Worth looking up.
Considering what discovery channel turned into you probably have an 80% chance of creating a literal toilet of a reality show
“This company said they had a ten man crew but in fact brought in 20 guys. I don’t know how we’ll be able to handle these extra 20 gallons of shit.”
*cue dramatic music*
“This could cost us the whole season we have to get our shit together”
I worked through the pain many times doing hardwood floors for 30years now I spend 3\4 of my days in bed cuz my back hurts so bad I want to cry and do most days. Wish I never did!!!!
I love Capt. Johnathan.
Hillstrand is the man !
My father worked through some tough injuries, and is now a severely beat up old man in constant pain. Jon's pressuring to work through this is something I can't agree with at all. He is a person, not a another expendable machine of your boat
"we can put your arm in a sling and you can still work and finish out the season, but if you go home now, I probably wont ever hire you again."
shortly after tells camera man: "I will never make a guy work that is injured"
and shortly before that shows the guy bending and moving his whole hurting' arm around. theres a big difference between injured and sore, the kid is just being a woos and not wanting to work
if you saw the kid working up until that point you'd understand
if u continue to work, after the job is long gone u will still be in shoulder pain. after 5 years of quitting my job where i was at 10 years, i have shoulder pain and will have it til the end. stinky jobs aint worth ur health, if you dont have health you dont have anything.
yup...n skipper saying what hes worked thru he doesnt work anynore he sits in the chair
I would have said sure I’ll say I’ll drive the boat with my good arm and since you (captain) have no injuries you can take my place. I worked through injuries before and one injury I had to my shoulder didn’t heal properly so I have pain, don’t have full movement and if I over work it I get a flare up so I can’t use it for 1 week. I broke a bone in the top of my foot I didn’t go to hospital so it healed wrong and if I use my foot in a way that a lot of pressure is on the top of my foot I will have a flare up and be in a TON of pain and I also get flare ups if my foot hangs over the bed not supported and when this happens it takes 2 weeks to go away it hurts more then breaking a bone. When I went to the doctor for it finally they did X-rays and told me that it broke at some point and healed wrong. The doctor said he couldn’t believe that I didn’t go to the hospital when I broke it because the break was so bad judging how it healed that they would have wanted to do surgery. It’s not worth working injured
I would have made a deal with the Captain that I would work, wouldn't be as effective and would just sort the crab or chop bait while in a sling just to be a team player. You don't want to get a quitter reputation in that field of work. I've worked on a boat out of Seward, it's just how it works in Alaska.
Wish I had a boss like that I’ve had torn shoulder for months now and boss hasn’t done a thing about it
"You cannot always get what you need..... Just what someone else wants for you......."
Fishing is insanely tough. It's not that you HAVE to work through the pain of an injury, and going home can definitely be the right thing to do! But if you have wear and tear on your body that's a liability at sea and a negative consideration in hiring :(. If you get replaced and everyone's doing the job well you don't necessarily have a spot, that's always how it is. They usually stay friends and know other boats or often come back after some time if they do want to stick around. You can stay on the boat and rest and cook or clean one-armed and things like that. Respect the man said it was his last season anyway. I could not hack it at all.
This title quote is the soundbyte for TV and clicks xD but then "I love you man"
agreed. I fish and that contract is your word you will stay. I tore up my palm with a knife that needed 14 stitches. I couldn't bend it which made it useless. Hurt like a bitch! Captain knew I was effed up. Told him I want to stay and just do anything I can do with one hand but I needed him to understand I was very limited but wanted to stay. Also told him I needed a day off as it was really messed up. I wrapped my hand in a few plastic bags with tape, chopped bait, sorted the best I could, made coffee for the crew, took care of their wet clothes etc. From that I got mad respect which built a tight bond of respect. That is everything on a boat.
what actually was he going to do without a useable arm on board for a month? like, at that point he's just soaking up supplies until he's able to use the arm safely. it sucks, and yeah Jonathan needs to find a replacement worker...but that replacement will be able to work and contribute from the start.
Who saw that “Do not exceed 4,200lbs per shelf” scratched out to 420. Alright, alright. These guys like to spend some time with Mary Jane 😂 Nothing wrong with that, I’m sure it helps the pain!
I had a rotator cuff injury at work and kept pushing thru the pain. Once the season was finished I got it seen to by doctors and was not called back to work. The doctor tore strip's off me for not going sooner. 8 years later it's still not healed and never will be. Don't ever be stupid enough to assume that you are anything but a number to employers
You're the man JH! Always with that winning attitude and healthy humor. You got a fishing fever alright....
But He’s got a bad attitude towards his employees health! He made the guy choose his health over his job rather than telling him to get well and he would have him back next season. Bad captain, bad dude.
I’m sure there is plenty of guys out there that would love to work for you
You really think Jonathan Hillstrand reads this?
What else is there to do on a crab boat????😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@nobodyspecial6436 play games on your phone like slot machines
@@nobodyspecial6436 I've worked with captains that'll plays games there whole watch atleast when we're not actively working or where out in the open water
I was being sarcastic…. I’m gonna assume you got the joke…..and i’ve never been out there but i can imagine most of the time it’s NOT like you see on Deadliest Catch
Sorry but just like in sports...work/play hurt is one thing...but to work/play injured...may be something you never recover from..
from a sports perspective ask Grant Hill or Kevin McHale (he's still limping)!
Yeah, being "though" and just work through it in this case is just a plain dumb idea.
He took the right choice and went home.
What is it worth to be "tough", work one season and mess your body up for life?
@@Rakku Yeah Johnathan brought up his Dad...well...my Dad was the same way. But the opportunities for them were slim back then...they had no choice but to tough it out
I bet Cptn Jonathan has a wicked Macho Man Randy Savage impression.
It is one thing to work through the pain, but if he had...was the captain gonna pay to take care of him for the rest of his life if it became irreparable? Probably not.
I feel like they both had serious injuries. Its weird that one was able to leave in the good graces of the captain while the other was labeled a a quitter. "unless you have a bone sticking out you work" I didn't see a bone sticking out of the first dude.
I understand where Eddie was coming from he wants to be helping and not be dead weight but his health is far more important than then being late
I would always work through the pain when I was younger. It was the Coast Guard so different circumstances. Here I am in my 40s and my body shouldn't feel like it does.
Jonathan Hillstand has moved above Vince Lombardi on the charts for winning leaders
My man has a separated shoulder and asking him to work 😅
The mark of a small man is insulting someone as they leave: "you're hurting me so I'm going to hurt you too!" I worked through injuries, blah-blah-blah. That's why you can barely walk now, Jon. This is a job. A job that kid is lucky he walked away from while he still could.
i understand its hard for capts to see past faking bullshit or the workers faking excuses but the worker made the right choice...health is your wealth....end of
That four week recovery could turn into a 4 month recovery after surgery had he stayed on. That was a shitty ultimatum he gave him. Work now and never fish anywhere again ever or I won’t hire you again. Nah, he made the right choice.
Yep just think about yourself and leave people hanging and shorthanded. His arm wasnt hurting when he packed his bags. He's weak and so are you.
@@badapple9482 lol people like you act tough from your computer screen
@@badapple9482 you’re so delusional
Actually got really disappointed in Johnathan here. Trying to shame him for not working while injured. Not cool!!!
I see people shitting on Johnathan but in this fishing industry it is what it is. I would rather have a boss that is straight and just tells you how it is, then not have an answer at all. This job just wasn't for that guy, that's just how life is sometimes.
in fairness to Johnathan, Phil has been injured almost every single time he has gone out on deck, kid is a walking liability, how long until he got really fucked up?
Keep the boat clean and keep hot coffee and food coming for the other guys. Going home just wouldn’t feel right. But hey, that’s just me, each person’s gotta do what is right for them. Got big respect for the guy for going in the first place. FWAFS.
I agree with you, but he probably would have felt so lame while everyone else was working.
Eddy are you ok are you ok eddy
I've got four hernia's and a brain aneurysm and I still outwork over half the people I know
i got a bad back injury at work they wanted me to keep going i couldnt stand up straight. dont ever bust you ass for companys they dont care about you. if you cant make money they will throw you on the streets and say good luck
I’m sure there’s playing goes out there that love to work for you and make
Plenty guys try. Maybe 1 in 10 can mentally and physically do the job. Maybe 1 in 10 of them don't have a drug or alcohol problem. That gives U about 1 guy that's worth keeping out of every ten you give a go to
Are you a RiRi?
His leg, Eddy, is fkd up. Capt: hey Eddy wanna come up here???
Fkn so STAGED!!!
Good God guys. ...
Working through the pain when you're young puts you in a wheel chair when you're old. I work a physically demanding job, suffered injuries, worked through them and then got wise. I wrecked my back before I was 30. Now I tell all the newbies if they get injured just get a doctor's note and stay home. Making a few extra bucks this year and ending up on the disabled list at 40. It's just not worth it in the long run.
Seems like a boss I would work for straight up and tells you how it is also seems like a really good guy!
dude had an injury that takes 3 months to fully recover. 3 months of not using the arm. whats the point of having dead weight for 3 months on your ship unless he is going to push him to work once "he thinks" the dude is better. he didn't treat him at all like Eddie just beacuse he was "family"
@@samlawrenz9795 wasn’t meaning nothing to the video was only to the caption bro.
@@samlawrenz9795 clearly have never worked on the ocean, unless your body is useless and you’re in so much pain you can’t handle it, you keep working, you don’t sit around staring at the ceiling with a shit eating grin on your face while everyone else works, unless you broke something, man up… you get a big boy check and your medical bills payed for free and clear, not everyone is cut out for a life at sea
@@samlawrenz9795 you’re either a man and hope you’ll be able to work through it, or you bitch out and run home, he already made up his mind that he didn’t want to be there anyway, just stick to your office
@@ilikedmmcd7151 commercial scalloper here on the east coast. Unless you're dying or dead, you work. If the injury is really bad, you won't lay down. I depend on my crew every trip. They can work together like no other,even if theg have to pull it out their ass.
I would work for that captain any day of the week. Makes my managers at work look terrible.
Thats the difference between old school and new school i was taught by old school guys you learn to work your butt off and do as you’re told because they will able to feed to tons of useful information to help you succeed in that field
First of all these kids are young it isn't an easy job. Family can be a problem. Continued success. Two the time bandit.
If you “really loved” your crew, then you wouldn’t guilt trip them into staying. That is noooo family. 😅😂
Wish I had a boss like that
Boss: "Work while injured or quit."
Me: "Let me heal to be able to work the way you want me to work, or get sued for worker's comp."
Workers could respond that way. You don't make a guy quit for healing time. Workers want to go back to work, but they need to heal to be able to work.
Shit I would've kept working ruined my shoulder and collected one hell of a big check from the lawsuit
Since the injury has already been documented and was recommended minimum 4 weeks to recover after surgery, you wouldn't have a case since you decided to continue working even with the injury
@@absolutez3r019 It said nothing about any surgery. You made that up. He said 4 weeks of rest. He's not even in a sling... 7:20 I've been dealing with shoulder injuries for 20 years and there's no way he can wrestle with his bags like that with the injury he's pretending to have. Shoulders injuries one of the most commonly faked injuries. They don't swell up or black and blue like an ankle or knee would so they are easy to fake.
Has he been back yet?
Superb ✨⚡
I thought the Hillstrand family sold the Time Bandit?
Just because they don't own the boat doesn't mean they can't get paid to run it
It was for sale but never actually sold
You can still find it. It’s for sale on a website
Wow, he hit the ground right as the boat hit a wave, that is bad luck.
What a bad look for the captain. You leave and I'll never higher you again
He's actually refusing light duty/modified work.
Working through the pain never works out in the end. I did it and now I have s permanent limp and will likely need surgery In about 5 years
Being someone that is in management at my job and having my own family work under me in the past... I can say that it is a lot tougher to have these talks with family, than with a regular employee. Some people cannot understand that this is just business. At the end of the day, they are still kin and should still love each other!
Kin folk
i guss not ever hillstran is a real man
Deadliest catch? "I've never had this many injuries happen so quickly" torn groin, blown out rotator
Notice that wont wear any protection gear. This is stupidity catch. Most injuries could be avoided or be protected from at least partially if one cared.
Young kid so probably could’ve worked through it but that’s also one of the toughest jobs in the world and if he had gone and was slowing the rest of the team down then they probably would of ripped into him. Jonathan is very old school and probably doesn’t understand not working through pain. Different times and different generation for better or worse.
I have known Eddies family for over 40 years. What I can say of the three generations I know is that they are tough, strong and proud men. Men of honor. It hurt Eddie to his core that the doc told him to go home. He doesn't owe the boat anything, he has no ownership or legacy except that of hard and honest work. Wyatt on the other hand, is a Hillstrand by blood but not by attitude. He wanted the money but was not willing to do the work. I am not saying he faked an injury, just that his grandfather would have disowned him. As for Jonathan's words, he was crushed that his own family would not stay on the boat to do whatever he could to help out - there are a hundred things that can be done on a boat without stressing that shoulder. Wyatt does not have the heart of a fisherman.
Very true, he could have done simple jobs, the crew would have been OK with it, he would have gotten respect and he would be sticking to his oath of the contract as that is man's word he will stick it out. He could have sorted the crab, chopped bait, made coffee, cooked etc all while in the sling. You are right, he just doesn't have the heart of a fisherman and sadly, feels like, and will be treated like, an outcast because of it by his family. I'm in Alaska and have fished. I know how it is up here.
@@10MinutestoRouletteFortune every activity you listed needs the shoulder, especially on deck on a pitching boat.
Deff a job where 1 in 1000 people could do it fully.
Give me a break, youre so gullible to the garbage this show spews. This show jumped the shark, 10 years ago, far worse than Fonzie ever could have. Its as fake and staged as could be. TRASH.
@@kidwave1 incoming boomer comment
@@kidwave1 here we go with your professional opinion.
It wasn't just dislocated shoulder he made the right call. How do you heal that on a boat and that's dangerous putting yourself and others at risk.
These captains are so rough on their crew. He's angry at him for leaving with an injury like that? Callous.
You could snap Freddy's spine and hed still work.
The skipper talks like he know about the body, he doesn't know that the shoulder is one of the most complex joints and if you don't heal it you could ruin it for life. Don't listen to Dr. Hillstrand who is the doctor of crab haha. Dude the shoulder is not a crab pincher.
He seems fine
I've worked crews where we just do our work in silence and only communicate when needed, this loud school girl screaming and yodiling by these boat crews would drive me insane.. but i guess its a Amrican thing, just like the way they call pickup trucks cars, lol
I won’t ever hire you again but I love you?
Bosses like this are clowns. You work with your crew your crew doesn't work for you. Once that mentality is set you'll have an unstoppable team.
I love how Jonathan didn’t sugar coat it with the kid. You leave, your not coming back. You could tell he didn’t wanna be there anyways.
If he stays, he is the one who pays the price. In 15 years when his shoulder still doesn't work properly and he can't get another job, that's when he is in trouble. Jonathan is the biggest douce going for this
And it’s his uncle to boot what a piece of shit I lost a lot of respect for Jonathan on this one.
Better leave than live the rest of his lifetime in constant pain from a fucked shoulder.
Boomers are the absolute worst and so are you. Fucking retard.
Some jobs are just heavy manual labor, and you need to be 100%healthy, I did drilling rigs in my youth and seen my share of injuries that seemed minor and turned out to be detrimental after a few months, safety first you can always make money you can't make vertebrates protect the 33 you have they have to last a lifetime!!! 2022
Take care of your minds and bodies you people. *Believe me* when I tell that you actually aren't made out of steel and that ignoring injuries eventually catch up with you.
Don’t mess around with shoulder stuff.
The captain that only cares about the boat. What a selfish jerk.
EL BANDIDO ! 🇲🇽 🇲🇽
I worked thru the pain and broken bones and torn ligaments and torn muscles. Now I'm medically retired and the companies I killed myself for could give a shit. DONT DO IT, LET THEM BE PISSED AS THEY WANT TO BE.
All salute, this job is not for weak nerves.
“Prob won’t hire you again…. I love you man”. This is the problem with people in power. How can he recover on the boat working with a damaged rotator cuff??? He puts him in the position of having to “quit” rather than TELLING him to take medical leave…. How about saying “get well and can’t wate to have you back aboard next season” like I don’t understand these captains or any boss who doesn’t get it…. End of the day he didn’t have the balls to tell him to take a recovery break just so he could tell people he quit.
Injury begets injury. The shorter handed the bigger the chance of an injury.
All you guys are missing the point if it was really serious the doctor would not let him return to the boat. The captain could put him on light duty do the bait traps cook the meals for the crew clean cabins something you are still contributing
Omg im crying
That injury is serious, it could have gotten alot worse and ruined his shoulder for the rest of his life if he kept working, however he was done anyway so be it
He simply asked him to stay on the boat lmao, he didn’t say he was going to work him like a dog, just simply help him when he feels comfortable while also giving him a paycheck for being there, instead he made up the decision fishing wasn’t for him anyway and wanted to go home
@@ilikedmmcd7151 You know that if you are on a fishing boat, you are going to work your ass off, injured or not.
What point would there be to just have him stay on the boat?
He obviously was going to use him for work.
There is no other point to have someone on board otherwise.
BS it's serious. 7:20 So which arm is supposed to be hurt? Shoulder is by far the most faked injury.
I don't agree with damaging people's cars
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