@Adam Neely I HAVE TO TALK TO YOU! I spoke to Yogev about this when his “gravity centers” video came out (we did a Zoom). I wrote my Master’s thesis in 1999 about something I called “Ampersand Rhythms” and what you’re doing in this video is bumping RIGHT up against my own rhythmic shenanigans in some super awesome ways - I feel like you’d really enjoy hearing a perspective (and some music) that is just a fraction of a degree different! I know it’s kind of absurd to say “hey let’s chat” to an internet superstar such as yourself, but when there are rad new rhythmic techniques to be shared, it’s worth a shot - plus, Yogev was interested enough to respond 😅 Let me know and I’ll be happy to give more details.
Not his fault the Balkans produced a rich tradition of folk music with loads of awesome rhythmic patterns (and documented it better than other families of musical traditions with awesome rhythmic features like those found across West Africa, for one example among many)
@@TAP7aI’m glad you mentioned west African music because a lot of these rhythmic devices are very common here, for as novel as they feel to the average listener of western music. I honestly think it’s so cool that they’re picking up steam elsewhere in the world, whether they got inspired by the balkans or by the west Africans
The Sungazer process: 1) Listen to the song 2) Watch Adam's video to find out how you're "supposed" to listen to it More seriously, I'm so happy to see you guys working with Yogev! I wish your shows could come out as far as New Zealand :(
Dancer here, specialising in House Dance, but I also love to experiment and dance to non-4/4 music like Dave Brubeck's and Sungazer's stuff. Gonna bring this to the next session and blow some minds haha
If you really want to push yourself, check out Victoria mentioned here. Been obsessed with just about everything both Josh De La Victoria and Matt Gartska touch
I just discovered Yogev Gabay after getting into Meshuggah and wanting someone to explain their rhythms in a more mortal-friendly way, and Yogev has been an absolute GODSEND. Cannot recommend his channel enough, if you are even remotely interested in wonderfully wacky rhythmic hijinx then he's a must-watch.
There’s a Swedish dance called the short-3rd-beat Polska. It’s counted in 3/4, but the last beat is (roughly, but with some variation) 66% as long as the first two. And those two long beats are (usually) divided evenly in two, and the short last beat is (often) divided into 3. It’s so wonky. I love that pulse melting and nested tuplet shit exists in folk music.
@@JrgenHelland00 I was taught that if you don’t count it in 3, you’re feeling it wrong, so I think this means Swedish folk musicians are, in fact, nerds lol.
pulse morphing is my favorite thing i've heard tigran do bc he does it so effortlessly. Yogevs breakdown of the last section of Vardavar broke my mind at the time. (edit: this was in David Bruce's video the Rhythms of Tigran Hamasyan.) a good exercise to learn to feel this is to try and fit a familiar-feeling 4 subdivisions in place of some triplets. check out the track dovetail nicely by the bad plus and peep the drums
The amount of musical talent on this tour is outrageous. Jared is never not insanely impressive. The new Shubh tracks are absolutely killer, so that NYC show will be amazing. Also, thanks for introducing me to Portraits!
It looks pretty damned busy. I live in Oslo. I wonder why the tour starts with Oslo. Norway's usually not the first country on anyone's itinerary. I'm on the fence about buying a ticket.
I feel so honored that our tiny little Netherlands gets 3 shows. Last year was amazing, I'm sure next year will be no different. Gonna drum up all my friends.
To me Sungazzer is morphing into a most incredible, important group. If you had been doing this in the 70’s - 90’s you would have been a mega force. I love your version of Jazz Fusion because you incorporate beautiful melodies into syncopated funk and serious rock and eloquent jazz. You are amongst the best if not the best n sophisticated music - with a groove! I love your music and all good things to you and the band. 🎉
Yogev is popping up everywhere now day and I'm so here for it. He did the Freak guitar camp with Mattias Ia Eklund this summer and was crowned the "crown prince of konnakol". Great to see that he gets the rounds and is working together with so many of my/our favorite artists and bands. Can't wait for the Gothenburg show
Josh is absolutely the man. Can't get enough of his playing, and it has led me to your music as well! Looking forward to seeing you guys in Atlanta next year!
That is an absolutely insane tour schedule. Given all you've shown us of the unglamorous life of touring with a new city nearly every day, you must absolutely love getting to play to an audience to go for a tour this lengthy! Best of luck and enjoy! Looking forward to catching you at the Chicago show.
I was in the crowd in Belgrade! Phenomenal show, one of the best in my life - you engage with the audience very well and you just know that your audience are all music nerds :D
got super happy when i saw sungazer is out on tour, got devastated when i saw that you played in my hometown 5 days ago and i missed it.... gad damnit :(
Great video! I thought you were going to mention Rudresh Mahanthappa and Vijay Iyer in the references to people playing with these pulse-shifting and morphing ideas for a while, Rudresh's Black Water album has a lot of that. But, in Brazil, Hermeto Pascoal has been doing that for a pretty long while, at least since the 80s, with things like 10 notes over a 7/8 samba, with six triplets and four dotted eights (sort of) stretching to cover the bar, for example.
Yogev absolutely rules…!! His visual descriptions of rhythm was a big influence on my analysis of Rush's LIMELIGHT. Btw love Cool 7… first listen I thought it was a wonky 5 then when I listened without trying to analyze I recognized the 7 effortlessly. Crazy!
God, this style of jazz has been my favorite new discovery of 2024, saw a video that referenced "System" by Brotherly, I've been hooked trying to find more! Definitely giving you guys a follow, looking forward to the album!!!
Ahh! You mentioned 6 on the bottom of a time signature! The partner I went to your show with didn’t believe me at first when I mentioned having some 2/3 or 5/6 pieces in my classical training. And I explained them more or less like you did there, as a way to have triplets be written “regularised”! But in the back of my head I kind of doubted my memory because I don’t have my books anymore. Yay, validation! And I have the term “irrational time signature” finally - I knew it wasn’t “odd” bc that’s just for uncommon regular ones.
Honestly really stoked to see you guys when you come to PHX. Been watching you for years, and you have influenced and inspired much of my writing in my band.
I never thought I’d hear Adam Neely say Birkenhead. That’s such a great thing to hear as someone who lives nearby, for once we won’t have to drive out to Manchester or London! 🥳
Great to see all your efforts ans Shauns in Sungazer pay off. I saw you play your first gig in the UK is some tiny little bar in Birmingham and it was a revelation! I couldnt talk for hours afterwards!!!!! I have to ask just how tempted are you going to be to shout out 'Hello Cleveland!'??? yeah....perhaps not!
This is really cool, but I would love it if y'all did a tour stop in Minneapolis or Des Moines next time. Chicago is the closest stop for me, and that's either a 5.5 hour drive, or a $300+ plane ticket. I'd love to see more stops in the Midwest
I love your content. You're an amazing bass player, and it inspires me to try some new thing in my playing as a bass player myself. Meshuggha is another mind-blowing project that uses the same concept as you guys. Mad respect, much love, I hope I will have the chance to see you live when you come to canada❤❤I'm a big fan
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@Adam Neely I HAVE TO TALK TO YOU! I spoke to Yogev about this when his “gravity centers” video came out (we did a Zoom). I wrote my Master’s thesis in 1999 about something I called “Ampersand Rhythms” and what you’re doing in this video is bumping RIGHT up against my own rhythmic shenanigans in some super awesome ways - I feel like you’d really enjoy hearing a perspective (and some music) that is just a fraction of a degree different! I know it’s kind of absurd to say “hey let’s chat” to an internet superstar such as yourself, but when there are rad new rhythmic techniques to be shared, it’s worth a shot - plus, Yogev was interested enough to respond 😅 Let me know and I’ll be happy to give more details.
Responding to this to boost it in the comments
Yeah let them nerd out
I really really hope Adam sees this!
Hopefully he responds
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3:15 “Repetition… is fun to dance to”
You tease
He was just edging us 9:35
LEGITIMIZES
I enjoyed that!
get out of my... is fun to dance to
He's just trolling us now 😂
0:00 - I have a speedrun timer to see how long does it take Adam to mention the Balkan aksak rhythm in every video
6:01 - there she is
Not his fault the Balkans produced a rich tradition of folk music with loads of awesome rhythmic patterns (and documented it better than other families of musical traditions with awesome rhythmic features like those found across West Africa, for one example among many)
@@TAP7a Balkans music is just really good
Frreal
@@TAP7aI’m glad you mentioned west African music because a lot of these rhythmic devices are very common here, for as novel as they feel to the average listener of western music. I honestly think it’s so cool that they’re picking up steam elsewhere in the world, whether they got inspired by the balkans or by the west Africans
The Sungazer process:
1) Listen to the song
2) Watch Adam's video to find out how you're "supposed" to listen to it
More seriously, I'm so happy to see you guys working with Yogev! I wish your shows could come out as far as New Zealand :(
Wooohhooooo
Excited for the show, you guys are killing it 🎉🎉🎉
Thanks for the plug!
Which shows are you playing? I don't see your name listed on Sungazer's tour page.
@@ratamacue0320 I'm playing the Boston show, Jan 16 with Shwesmo, an awesome duo I'm a part of!
Acknowledging your
Known influences
Seems like
A wise decision -
Keep it up!
I see what you did there
Dancer here, specialising in House Dance, but I also love to experiment and dance to non-4/4 music like Dave Brubeck's and Sungazer's stuff. Gonna bring this to the next session and blow some minds haha
If you really want to push yourself, check out Victoria mentioned here. Been obsessed with just about everything both Josh De La Victoria and Matt Gartska touch
i'm trying to imagine what breaking would be like in 7s, can imagine House is interesting 😅
lol at this point you're just the poly rhythm guy, way to embrace it
adam neely tomas haake collab when
@@tfwnoyandere And Panzerballett collab, please :D
I just discovered Yogev Gabay after getting into Meshuggah and wanting someone to explain their rhythms in a more mortal-friendly way, and Yogev has been an absolute GODSEND. Cannot recommend his channel enough, if you are even remotely interested in wonderfully wacky rhythmic hijinx then he's a must-watch.
There’s a Swedish dance called the short-3rd-beat Polska. It’s counted in 3/4, but the last beat is (roughly, but with some variation) 66% as long as the first two. And those two long beats are (usually) divided evenly in two, and the short last beat is (often) divided into 3. It’s so wonky. I love that pulse melting and nested tuplet shit exists in folk music.
So, 4 dotted eighths and a triplet? That's 4/4 if you stop counting it like a nerd. There's so many cool rythms in folk dance.
@@JrgenHelland00 I was taught that if you don’t count it in 3, you’re feeling it wrong, so I think this means Swedish folk musicians are, in fact, nerds lol.
sounds sort of like what happens in a viennese waltz, where beat 2 is usually pushed a decent bit ahead of the beat.
Nothing like complex rhythms to bring people together ❤
pulse morphing is my favorite thing i've heard tigran do bc he does it so effortlessly. Yogevs breakdown of the last section of Vardavar broke my mind at the time. (edit: this was in David Bruce's video the Rhythms of Tigran Hamasyan.) a good exercise to learn to feel this is to try and fit a familiar-feeling 4 subdivisions in place of some triplets. check out the track dovetail nicely by the bad plus and peep the drums
8.53. "Don't think about it too much." Hmmm. Well thank goodness Adam and his amazingly talented band have done all the heavy work already.
The amount of musical talent on this tour is outrageous. Jared is never not insanely impressive. The new Shubh tracks are absolutely killer, so that NYC show will be amazing. Also, thanks for introducing me to Portraits!
I just about had a sympathetic nervous breakdown seeing that tour schedule. Eat right and get enough sleep!
It looks pretty damned busy. I live in Oslo. I wonder why the tour starts with Oslo. Norway's usually not the first country on anyone's itinerary. I'm on the fence about buying a ticket.
Going to see you in Riga. Absolutely stoked!
I feel so honored that our tiny little Netherlands gets 3 shows. Last year was amazing, I'm sure next year will be no different. Gonna drum up all my friends.
Oh Shit! You're gonna hang with Yogev!! Sick!
To me Sungazzer is morphing into a most incredible, important group. If you had been doing this in the 70’s - 90’s you would have been a mega force. I love your version of Jazz Fusion because you incorporate beautiful melodies into syncopated funk and serious rock and eloquent jazz. You are amongst the best if not the best n sophisticated music - with a groove! I love your music and all good things to you and the band. 🎉
COME TO BRAZIL! Whoever brought Knower needs to step up and bring Sungazer as well!!!
FÃS BRASILEIROS NA ÁREA, PÔ
COME TO PLAY CASTLEWAYS OF IPANEMA IN 17/15 SIGNATURE
YESSSSSSS
Knower came to Brazil? When? What was I doing to lose that? ;-;
@@kara-zul2951 EM 11/07/19 KNOWER ESTEVE AQUI EM SÃO PAULO! Que show, a banda manda demais.
Yogev is sick, love his Meshuggah videos
Yogev is popping up everywhere now day and I'm so here for it. He did the Freak guitar camp with Mattias Ia Eklund this summer and was crowned the "crown prince of konnakol".
Great to see that he gets the rounds and is working together with so many of my/our favorite artists and bands.
Can't wait for the Gothenburg show
Yay!! So glad to see you’re coming back to Finland! 🥳
As a Scot, am I going to have to travel to Finland to see Sungazer? 🏴 Wish they'd play gigs north of Bristol.
@@dkevans Well I’m actually going to travel 600km to see them so…
@@paulariihimaki5548 can I hitch a ride?
Stoked you are coming to my town. I have been wanting to see you all live for a while.
Josh is absolutely the man. Can't get enough of his playing, and it has led me to your music as well! Looking forward to seeing you guys in Atlanta next year!
That is a CRAZY Tour. Be good to yourselves through all the traveling. I'll try to catch you in Canada.
That is an absolutely insane tour schedule. Given all you've shown us of the unglamorous life of touring with a new city nearly every day, you must absolutely love getting to play to an audience to go for a tour this lengthy!
Best of luck and enjoy! Looking forward to catching you at the Chicago show.
Yeah this is the Adam that I really like, please do more of this 🙏🏼
And sorry for my english 😅
Just back from the New Morning show in Paris. Very happy to have danced to this
That tour is absolutely insane! Congrats. 🎉👏
I was in the crowd in Belgrade! Phenomenal show, one of the best in my life - you engage with the audience very well and you just know that your audience are all music nerds :D
Super happy to hear you guys are coming to Indianapolis it's gonna be an awesome show!
Really looking forward to the new album!!!
I hope you guys can get good sleep in between shows. Best of luck Sungazer! 🍻🙂
we got sungazer 2 step before gta 6
Damn Adam talking about a way to groove to music that’s so peculiar and unusual lol
Amazing album. So fresh so innovative
Yogev mentioned, the day just got better x10
got super happy when i saw sungazer is out on tour, got devastated when i saw that you played in my hometown 5 days ago and i missed it.... gad damnit :(
playing my hometown on my birthday eve. I missed you guys last year when you swung through. Def. gonna try to get tickets.
GUYS HE SAID THE PHRASE
WOW, even Vilnius on the tour list! Definitely gonna come see your band live
I wanna see a Sungazer/Too Many Zooz collab that'd be a tour de force of rhythm and bass
also a Tampa show?
YES
THIS!!!!!
Pleeeeease 😫
Great verbal and visual explanations here! Very fun video topic!
Sungazer's next album should be called "Technically music but weird (and awesome)"
Love it!
yoooo dude I love Yogev Gabay
Super talented guy, has awesome teaching methods, Time Consuming is 10/10
Saw you guys in Gothenburg this wednesday and had a blast! Thanks for a great evening, and send my appreciation to Button Masher!
I have been waiting a good while for a Chicago show, looks like my wait is over!
Great video! I thought you were going to mention Rudresh Mahanthappa and Vijay Iyer in the references to people playing with these pulse-shifting and morphing ideas for a while, Rudresh's Black Water album has a lot of that. But, in Brazil, Hermeto Pascoal has been doing that for a pretty long while, at least since the 80s, with things like 10 notes over a 7/8 samba, with six triplets and four dotted eights (sort of) stretching to cover the bar, for example.
Love the Yogev Gabay crossover!
I really wish Istanbul was also on that list 😕
Some other time I hope, good luck on the tour!
Yogev absolutely rules…!! His visual descriptions of rhythm was a big influence on my analysis of Rush's LIMELIGHT. Btw love Cool 7… first listen I thought it was a wonky 5 then when I listened without trying to analyze I recognized the 7 effortlessly. Crazy!
God, this style of jazz has been my favorite new discovery of 2024, saw a video that referenced "System" by Brotherly, I've been hooked trying to find more!
Definitely giving you guys a follow, looking forward to the album!!!
Thank you so much for coming to Memphis! I already have my ticket!
BASS!
seeing a new sungazer song without a video including it for two weeks was scary man
Ahh! You mentioned 6 on the bottom of a time signature!
The partner I went to your show with didn’t believe me at first when I mentioned having some 2/3 or 5/6 pieces in my classical training. And I explained them more or less like you did there, as a way to have triplets be written “regularised”! But in the back of my head I kind of doubted my memory because I don’t have my books anymore.
Yay, validation! And I have the term “irrational time signature” finally - I knew it wasn’t “odd” bc that’s just for uncommon regular ones.
another term is "nondyadic" since they aren't technically irrational :3
@@lunafoxfire though I’ve given up on making maths-maths and music-maths agree on terminology haha
Super excited for the tour coming to the UK! The Birkenhead one at Future Yard, they do great pizza 😉 pizza and Sungazer makes a great combo I’m sure!
Awesome video! 🎉 looking forward to seeing the LA show!
12:19 Utrecht! I'll be there.
Woop woop, can't wait for the show in Riga!!!! Bring it, boys!
Three Dutch gigs, one of which in my hometown! You're spoiling us :)
I know it's not that easy but I dream that someday you will come to South America! We really want to see you here!
Vancouver awaits you excitedly!
YOGEV GABAY MENTIONED YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
Glad that you're stopping in New Mexico! Hope I'm free that night.
Couldn’t stop thinking about Meshuggah🤘
Yogav is a cool guy, and rhythmic genius. Great you mention him!
Both singles have been fantastic, eager for the album to come out! Day one buy for me.
Honestly really stoked to see you guys when you come to PHX. Been watching you for years, and you have influenced and inspired much of my writing in my band.
Cant wait to see yall in Boston
Wow! Montréal and Québec City in January. Hope the Weather Gods are on your side! Will defo try to catch you guys in MTL!
Just how insanely awesome is sungazer!
Me: still struggling to hit the beats in normal 2/4, 3/4, 4/4 rhythms.
Adam: keeps on raising the bar... 😭
Why is this whole thing so wholesome. I love it.
This is very much my jam.
See you in Bristol.
Your videos are so rewarding, thanks man
Tks for comin back to Nashville. Lookin forward to it.
Props to the LD at 10:14 for matching the dance with the lights, nice little touch.
that's an impressively long tour! good luck and hopefully I'll see you!
Awesome ... hope to see you in Manchester in March as that's the nearest to me.
Looking forward to the show in Berlin! Bringing my wife there too.
got the notification from spotify about the chicago portion of the tour. SUPER excited to see you guys live and do the polyrhythm 2 step
Can't wait to see you in Milan and dance a Sungazer's two step dance 🔥
I never thought I’d hear Adam Neely say Birkenhead. That’s such a great thing to hear as someone who lives nearby, for once we won’t have to drive out to Manchester or London! 🥳
Great to see all your efforts ans Shauns in Sungazer pay off. I saw you play your first gig in the UK is some tiny little bar in Birmingham and it was a revelation! I couldnt talk for hours afterwards!!!!!
I have to ask just how tempted are you going to be to shout out 'Hello Cleveland!'??? yeah....perhaps not!
I saw you play at North Sea Jazz, it was by far the best show that day. 🙏
My dream is that sungazer one day does an Australasian tour. It seems like a crazy dream, but I can only hope
That tour got you traveling! Have fun...✌️
The melody goes wellody
Much love from Pittsburgh! Yay!
First band I've ever seen have a tour date in Birkenhead haha!! Hope you're ready to see small-town (medium-town) England!
Pumped to boogie with y’all at the Denver show!!
I'll just love my evening much more with new Adam Neely video
Just bought the ticket for the Helsinki gig next April. Soo nice to see you guys again! ❤
Excited for the Helsinki show!
This is really cool, but I would love it if y'all did a tour stop in Minneapolis or Des Moines next time. Chicago is the closest stop for me, and that's either a 5.5 hour drive, or a $300+ plane ticket. I'd love to see more stops in the Midwest
Kansas City or Omaha would work too!
Echoing Minneapolis interest
Your music is so amazing! 😸🎵
im a sunglazer
wow congrats on the very big tour
I love your content. You're an amazing bass player, and it inspires me to try some new thing in my playing as a bass player myself. Meshuggha is another mind-blowing project that uses the same concept as you guys. Mad respect, much love, I hope I will have the chance to see you live when you come to canada❤❤I'm a big fan
Please come to Brazil!! ❤❤