I think this is a very good idea, especially considering the story possibilities afterwards. Remember that shatterspin requires a shattered soul meaning Jay might have a struggle on whether he can be a ninja again with a shattered soul, unlike the others. That's huge potential they should not miss.
tbh Jay was the first one to learn spinjitzu and his talent towards learn airjitzu imo is recognizable so this theory is great idea, especially the fact he might memorize shatter spin.
It would make since for Jay to have shatterspin because he was the first of the ninja to learn spinjitzu so it makes since him having it/being the first to have it because he has been the best in the past of mastering new techniques. He was also the first to master Airjitzu
given that every person who has used shatterspin has had different elements yet it’s still looked identical, I can’t see them recoloring it for jay specifically. it would look great, though
I didn't realise that about Shatterspin, that's something to consider. But here are my thoughts: Lloyd is half Oni, he has Oni form as well as rising dragon form. Oni form is the opposite of dragon form yet Lloyd can keep those two forms separate and he's not corrupted by Oni. So the same might happen for Jay if Shatterspin is going to be his special ability. He can keep his Shatterspin form separate from his usual Spinjitzu form and not be corrupted by Shatterspin. Those are just my thoughts.
I would like for Jay to fight Nya using Shader Spin I don’t know about him keeping it and using it for good it’s supposed to be an evil technique also that would make Jay way to OP.
@@d1nq887 well let’s be real the ninjas are probably not going to use rising dragon again also did Tanner not think about if Jay is able to use shader spin with no wolf mask he is a lost cause because all the good in him would be shattered.
Saw lots of people wondering how Jay would rejoin the ninja after shatterspin so here’s my own theory! (Copy pasted from a reply but I thought it’d be nice to put it as a separate comment: I think the “goodness” being shattered is more on just the self doubts or fear and holding back just a bit to not fully destroy your enemy rather than the actual goodness of a person. So in fights, Jay would go completely all in without hesitation to the point he’d kill or seriously injure enemies which is something the ninja don’t really do because of principles and whatnot
@@ClassicStudStudios that still begs the question why it would be different for Jay unless he found a way to sacrifice his own misery rather than his goodness
@@LukeRoberts-o7r They never said that, Ras said "watch what happens to an elemental master who studied the lost teachings of the forbidden 5". NOWHERE in the show does it state that you must be an elemental master to perform shatterspin
I don’t want Ninjago’s favorite lightning Ninja to turn evil 👿 I wish I could talk to Doc Wyatt about wether or not this would be permanent or temporary
Jay using Shatterspin would be sweet! I would love to see that battle between Nya and Jay not to mention Jay having that ability as like his own thing- Jay really doesn’t have many special moves or abilities compared to most of the other ninjas- he can fly with his powers and teleport with lightning but very rarely do we see that happening with Jay. If Jay got his own ability like Shatterspin not only would it add to his character growth/development but it would also make Jay actually unique compared to the rest of the ninja who will learn Rising Dragon or who have learned it in the case of Kai, Lloyd and Nya. I don’t know how Jay is supposed to use Shatterspin for good without the mask if Shatterspin supposedly shatters the goodness inside you- but I guess Jay could defy all odds and surprise us, wouldn’t be the first time that’s happened
That is a really good point. Lloyd has Oni form and rising dragon, the other ninja have rising dragon too, and I believe Cole has his earth golem form. So it would be really amazing if Jay were to have Shatterspin as his special ability. Not going to lie, Shatterspin actually looks cool despite it being used for evil so Jay having it would be amazing and he could use it for good.
The best and my fav character in Ninjago getting a arc that involves losing his memories and getting extremely OP with Shatterspin going to defeat the ninja that will mentally and physically destroy them ( Especially Cole and Nya ) that will immediately result in him being goated again after many years of his flanderization in the Wildbrain era ? HELL YES , IM ALL FOR IT .
I really really really want to see Jay become an actual villain and threath to the ninja. I honestly believe that Jay is either the second or third strongest out of the ninja. The first seasons of ninjago have shown that multiple times about Jay's character. Ever since the wild brain era though they kinda made Jay the comedic relief. So for dragons rising I really wish they utilise villain Jay to the maximum, not holding back because he doesn't remember the ninja. I'm a Jay fan have always been and I know most want Jay to be back on the ninja team BUT I don't want that. I want them to take their absolute time with Jay being a villain. And for them to have a story between Jay and Ras becoming very close and for them to have a kinda mentor student or father and son dynamic. I really dont want Jay to recover his memories for season 2 part 2 I want the writers to drag it and make Jay an absolute menace and a good antagonist. It would be a very good plot and honestly I hope Jay fans can wait a little bit longer for Jay to join the ninja team again after they complete his villain arc well up until season 3 part 2 maybe. Also if he does regain his memories I believe Jay will not be the same and that would be so good of a character development.
I really like the idea of Jay using Shatterspin against the ninja, then for good, but doesn’t Shatterspin shatter the goodness in souls? If that’s the case then how is Jay supposed to use Shatterspin for good if it shatters goodness?
Lord Ras gonna teach him Shtterspin and it shatters his goodness . Making so that he will not hold back against the ninja . I can't wait to see Jay v Nya and Jay v Kai .
Honestly I think the “goodness” being shattered is more on just the doubts and holding back to not fully destroy your enemy rather than the actual goodness of a person. So in fights, Jay would go completely all in to the point he’d kill or seriously injure enemies which is something the ninja don’t really do
I will Definitely Love it So Much if Cinder can Use ShatterSpin without The Help of a Wolf Mask and the Mallet and Gong of Shattering it just makes So much Sense To Have ShatterSpin be Use A Lot More without The Help of Any Ancient Weapon in my Opinion So In The Future of Sequel Series Dragons Rising Have Jay, Jordana and Cinder Use ShatterSpin Permanently without Any Magical Ancient Help that’ll be Super Awesome and Just So Perfect in My Opinion😎🔥
ninjago normal story: Shatterspin is one of the most powerful technique and can grab years to learn and to study all the scrolls to learn it almost all the scrolls were destroyed Ninjago character plot: Yes but I’m a ninja I will learn it in like 2 days or if the situation don’t need it in like one month
Not a Jay fan, but if he does learn shatterspin, I don’t think the other ninja should learn it. Jay hasn’t really gotten any abilities or powers different from the rest of the team. Him not needing the gong/wolf masks would be a good idea as well. Also looking at that minifigure, the printing on the chest kinda looks like a source dragon symbol
I thought about this too! And maybe after his villain arc, they somehow "unshatter" his soul and then he could use a "purified" version of Shatterspin.
If Jay learns shatterspin wouldn’t there be no point having him have his memories back? I mean shatterspin shatters all the good in your heart so Jay would still be evil after gaining his memory ??
Jay lost his memory and just works for an agency that is not evil or connected to Lord Rass RED color team at all. Meaning Jay is not going evil or learning the art of shatterspin. Just because Jay has a blue wolf on his new outfit does not mean he is evil now.
I don’t think defeating him would give his memories back, it’s most likely a kiss or a speech that brings them back. Keep in mind it’s not the Shatterspin that made him lose his memory
i think because shatterspin based on strength and shattering goodness allow it. Jay being good again will perform shatterspin poorly and also like it is also a corrupted technique? so it will be remove just like airjitzu for being dark => theory👎
I could see it, but there’s one flaw. For Shatterspin to work, you can’t have any good left inside of you. And Jay’s personality, even if he turns evil, doesn’t match that at all. Unless Ras has done something we don’t know about…
I would imagine that Jay can’t naturally use Shatterspin since he’s likely still pure of heart, explaining why he doesn’t have the Shatterspin armour and why Kai, Sora, and Wyldfire didn’t got corrupted by the wolf masks at the Shadow Dojo.
Here's my idea: Jay does learn Shatterspin, and is about to use it but Lloyd tells him that isn't who he is, and he somehow gets his memories back and uses Shatterspin against Lord Ras
Lego seems to be really taking control over leaks this time for part two. It's probably too soon for leaks to even happen but for our sake I hope they keep it all confidential.
If this happens I wonder what Jay can do with Shatterspin and his lightning powers. Also I do hope we get a Jay v Nya battle, then maybe a Jay v Cole or in reverse.
I think this is a very good idea, especially considering the story possibilities afterwards. Remember that shatterspin requires a shattered soul meaning Jay might have a struggle on whether he can be a ninja again with a shattered soul, unlike the others. That's huge potential they should not miss.
You should join the writing team
@@SICPARVISMAGNA3018 im 14
@@LightningCrystal well that's a better story arc for jay than anything they've done for him since skybound
@@SICPARVISMAGNA3018 that I agree with
tbh Jay was the first one to learn spinjitzu and his talent towards learn airjitzu imo is recognizable so this theory is great idea, especially the fact he might memorize shatter spin.
It would make since for Jay to have shatterspin because he was the first of the ninja to learn spinjitzu so it makes since him having it/being the first to have it because he has been the best in the past of mastering new techniques. He was also the first to master Airjitzu
I would like for Jay to have a fusion ot Shatterspin and Spinjitzu
Introducing the Master of SpinSpin Jay
@@codex7819 The Master of ShatterSpinjitzu (or Shatterjitzu)
Thats never gonna be a thing
EXCELLENT WORK. TANNERFISHES LEGO NINJAGO
I hope Jay no uses Shatterspin, because becomes evil forever
I 100% agree with you tanner, and not only that but Jay is also an elemental master just like cinder which also helps this cause
That is true and so I wonder what Jay is going to do
I am looking forward to seeing what is going to happens to Jay
Man if Jay got shatterspin and SOMEHOW kept it after he turns good again…👀🔥
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That would actually be great, a better version of oni form lloyd
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He can't be good and does the shatterspin at the same time. Because shatterspin requires bad intentions.
@@Forgetitbruvwell possibly
Well I think Nya trying to stop Jays shatterspin by doing the RDT and saying Jay it's not you while she's on him would be a pretty cool scene.
nah it would be mediocre
@@clarityofdeathshut up they're not allowed to break up the Jaya ship
@@SashaWaybrightAndCassieGaming2 lmaoooo, i just say that it would be the most mid writing that could happen
@@SashaWaybrightAndCassieGaming2 im jaya fan myself but I just see how bad it would be to execute it like that
@@clarityofdeath the creators would regret breaking up Jaya since it's a massive sin in the ninjago community
A blue Shatter Spin with yellow electrical ascents would be amazing⚡️
given that every person who has used shatterspin has had different elements yet it’s still looked identical, I can’t see them recoloring it for jay specifically. it would look great, though
@@Amityz72323 indeed.💯
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@@NinjaERA46 💯
@@Amityz72323 it coukl be like "redeemed" version of shatterspin
It’d be pretty cool if Jay learned Shatterspin
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Yes because he is barely a ninja any more
@@zainislam6102 it’s because of his amnesia during the merge
This would be so cool if Jay learns shatterspin
I am confused I want to see jay shatterspin but that has a sacrifice he must shatter his soul and there is no back if he learn it
I agree with you tanner but 2:14 doesn’t shatter spin make you pure evil it shatters all the goodness in you so how could he use it for good ????
I didn't realise that about Shatterspin, that's something to consider. But here are my thoughts: Lloyd is half Oni, he has Oni form as well as rising dragon form. Oni form is the opposite of dragon form yet Lloyd can keep those two forms separate and he's not corrupted by Oni. So the same might happen for Jay if Shatterspin is going to be his special ability. He can keep his Shatterspin form separate from his usual Spinjitzu form and not be corrupted by Shatterspin. Those are just my thoughts.
Just make him a ninja again lego
Sorry Dude but him Will Be not Good Since of him are on 🐺🖤❤️
I would like for Jay to fight Nya using Shader Spin I don’t know about him keeping it and using it for good it’s supposed to be an evil technique also that would make Jay way to OP.
Way to op? Dragon technique is way powerfull it easily deafeated cinder
@@d1nq887 well let’s be real the ninjas are probably not going to use rising dragon again also did Tanner not think about if Jay is able to use shader spin with no wolf mask he is a lost cause because all the good in him would be shattered.
I hope we get more on how Shatterspin, "shatters the goodness in one's soul". If Jay started using it, that could be a problem
TannerFishies, I liked this video because it's awesome!
Shattered SpinJitzu is a cool thing he could get as his powerup. Everyone else got one
Cool theory.💯💜👍
Saw lots of people wondering how Jay would rejoin the ninja after shatterspin so here’s my own theory! (Copy pasted from a reply but I thought it’d be nice to put it as a separate comment:
I think the “goodness” being shattered is more on just the self doubts or fear and holding back just a bit to not fully destroy your enemy rather than the actual goodness of a person. So in fights, Jay would go completely all in without hesitation to the point he’d kill or seriously injure enemies which is something the ninja don’t really do because of principles and whatnot
I don't think you can use shatter for good. I think it will corrupt you
if jay have shatterspin he will be stronger then cole and Zane
I have been saying that
I wonder if having goodness of his soul shattered will affect his character after he returns to the good side
I thought that to achieve shatter spin without the wolf mask you had to sacrifice your elemental power
Not your elemental powers, more the goodness in your soul
@@ClassicStudStudios that still begs the question why it would be different for Jay unless he found a way to sacrifice his own misery rather than his goodness
I think they will try making him learn shatterspin, but they won't be able to shatter his kindness with the gong since he's too kind and stuff u know
Also if you look at lego set with jay shatterspin outfit, you can see him fighting Cinder
Season 2 part 2 should feel like the Sakai tekai, from cobra Kai, where they may not survive.
It could be interesting because he definetly isnt going to get rising dragon and i would like it 🤔🤔
How is Jay willing to going to be much better as he was good on Lego Ninjago dragon rising?!
Who's here after seeing jay use shatterspin against nya
me
Me
Can I ask you something TannerFishes? When will part 2 comes?
when new episodes come out
Why would jay work with raz he works for the administration
Ras probably promises Jay more power and strength and Jay accepts
Or maybe Lord Ras corrupts him somehow..
Jay is gonna come back to the ninja because of nya watch
good theory lol maybe im wrong with my comment
Man I just want jay and Nya to get back together
What’s does shattering your soul do to you will he lose his emotions and leave Nya omg
zane needs something he has just been a side character for TOO LONG
Joradana can't learn shatterspin you have to be an elemental master
He is an elemental master
I'm taking about Jordana
@@LukeRoberts-o7r You can learn shatterspin without elemental power. Like Arin can learn spinjitsu without an elemental power
That's not true in the show they say you have to be a elemental master to do shatterspin
@@LukeRoberts-o7r They never said that, Ras said "watch what happens to an elemental master who studied the lost teachings of the forbidden 5". NOWHERE in the show does it state that you must be an elemental master to perform shatterspin
BUT WHY DOES JAY HAVE TO BE EVIL?! WHY LEGO? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!!
Will he be evil forever 😢
Jay vs The Ninjas would be epic.. can't wait
I don’t want Ninjago’s favorite lightning Ninja to turn evil 👿 I wish I could talk to Doc Wyatt about wether or not this would be permanent or temporary
Would be interesting
I am so like the 11th person to firt comment
I wonder if Shatterspin is stronger if the ninja were able to possess the Golden Weapons?
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Jay using Shatterspin would be sweet! I would love to see that battle between Nya and Jay not to mention Jay having that ability as like his own thing- Jay really doesn’t have many special moves or abilities compared to most of the other ninjas- he can fly with his powers and teleport with lightning but very rarely do we see that happening with Jay. If Jay got his own ability like Shatterspin not only would it add to his character growth/development but it would also make Jay actually unique compared to the rest of the ninja who will learn Rising Dragon or who have learned it in the case of Kai, Lloyd and Nya. I don’t know how Jay is supposed to use Shatterspin for good without the mask if Shatterspin supposedly shatters the goodness inside you- but I guess Jay could defy all odds and surprise us, wouldn’t be the first time that’s happened
That is a really good point. Lloyd has Oni form and rising dragon, the other ninja have rising dragon too, and I believe Cole has his earth golem form. So it would be really amazing if Jay were to have Shatterspin as his special ability. Not going to lie, Shatterspin actually looks cool despite it being used for evil so Jay having it would be amazing and he could use it for good.
The best and my fav character in Ninjago getting a arc that involves losing his memories and getting extremely OP with Shatterspin going to defeat the ninja that will mentally and physically destroy them ( Especially Cole and Nya ) that will immediately result in him being goated again after many years of his flanderization in the Wildbrain era ? HELL YES , IM ALL FOR IT .
same bro
Yeah finally proving jay is the best ninja
That new jay figure is so cool
Fax, I'm definitely going to get the set he comes!
@@DEADLYSTORM22 me too
I really really really want to see Jay become an actual villain and threath to the ninja. I honestly believe that Jay is either the second or third strongest out of the ninja. The first seasons of ninjago have shown that multiple times about Jay's character. Ever since the wild brain era though they kinda made Jay the comedic relief. So for dragons rising I really wish they utilise villain Jay to the maximum, not holding back because he doesn't remember the ninja. I'm a Jay fan have always been and I know most want Jay to be back on the ninja team BUT I don't want that. I want them to take their absolute time with Jay being a villain. And for them to have a story between Jay and Ras becoming very close and for them to have a kinda mentor student or father and son dynamic. I really dont want Jay to recover his memories for season 2 part 2 I want the writers to drag it and make Jay an absolute menace and a good antagonist. It would be a very good plot and honestly I hope Jay fans can wait a little bit longer for Jay to join the ninja team again after they complete his villain arc well up until season 3 part 2 maybe. Also if he does regain his memories I believe Jay will not be the same and that would be so good of a character development.
what if jay (after reuniting with the ninja) make a new combo of rising dragon and shater spin (rising-spin)
I think shattered-dragon sounds better
I really like the idea of Jay using Shatterspin against the ninja, then for good, but doesn’t Shatterspin shatter the goodness in souls? If that’s the case then how is Jay supposed to use Shatterspin for good if it shatters goodness?
Lord Ras gonna teach him Shtterspin and it shatters his goodness . Making so that he will not hold back against the ninja . I can't wait to see Jay v Nya and Jay v Kai .
Honestly I think the “goodness” being shattered is more on just the doubts and holding back to not fully destroy your enemy rather than the actual goodness of a person. So in fights, Jay would go completely all in to the point he’d kill or seriously injure enemies which is something the ninja don’t really do
I will Definitely Love it So Much if Cinder can Use ShatterSpin without The Help of a Wolf Mask and the Mallet and Gong of Shattering it just makes So much Sense To Have ShatterSpin be Use A Lot More without The Help of Any Ancient Weapon in my Opinion So In The Future of Sequel Series Dragons Rising Have Jay, Jordana and Cinder Use ShatterSpin Permanently without Any Magical Ancient Help that’ll be Super Awesome and Just So Perfect in My Opinion😎🔥
Maybe ras is aware of jay gaining back his memories and that'll make him use the shatterspin against ras and his crew, its still a weak idea but maybe
If ras teaches jay how to do shatterspin he is unaware that jay somehow gets his memories back and uses it on lord ras
@@bryans3436 yes it is he´ll would killing Ras when he teaches him that and when Jay is on the good side again then he will get Angry
I think that ras knows that Kay is a ninja and knows how strong he is so will use his ninja abilities against the ninja .
@@getBhavinShah u mean jay?
@@mangoman2005 oh yeah I just misspelled
Well I like if jay gets shatterspin and if he does get his memories back maybe he can use shatterspin for good
ninjago normal story:
Shatterspin is one of the most powerful technique and can grab years to learn and to study all the scrolls to learn it almost all the scrolls were destroyed
Ninjago character plot:
Yes but I’m a ninja I will learn it in like 2 days or if the situation don’t need it in like one month
I'd rather that instead of getting Amnesia, Jay purposely got his memories wiped by the Administration, Rick Dicker from The Incredibles style.
But if Jay learns Shatterspin won’t he lose his kindness because that’s what shatterspin does it shatters a person kindness.
Not necessarily “kindness” but overall goodness.
Ngl if this happens they are truly going to be unstoppable (to some extent-)!!!
Not a Jay fan, but if he does learn shatterspin, I don’t think the other ninja should learn it. Jay hasn’t really gotten any abilities or powers different from the rest of the team. Him not needing the gong/wolf masks would be a good idea as well.
Also looking at that minifigure, the printing on the chest kinda looks like a source dragon symbol
I swear if jay stays evil im not going to be happy 😡
Him Was my Favorit Since Did him become Evail
I thought about this too! And maybe after his villain arc, they somehow "unshatter" his soul and then he could use a "purified" version of Shatterspin.
If Jay learns shatterspin wouldn’t there be no point having him have his memories back? I mean shatterspin shatters all the good in your heart so Jay would still be evil after gaining his memory ??
I mean there has to be a way to un-shatter your goodness
@@karmaasm5320 probs
Jay. First love hay
That would actually be cool
That’s crazy
Before this video in another vid there was a comment which said "what if jay uses shatterspin that would be cool"
Jay lost his memory and just works for an agency that is not evil or connected to Lord Rass RED color team at all. Meaning Jay is not going evil or learning the art of shatterspin. Just because Jay has a blue wolf on his new outfit does not mean he is evil now.
NYA JAAAAAAY you Dont need too do this Jay!!!!! We Was your friends!
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That evens it out, cole has the golem form, kai nya and lloyd have the rising dragon technique, and jay has shatterspin.
This might be a stretch. But if Nya and Jay faced off (Jay having ShatterSpin) Nya defeafs him. His memories finally come back?
I don’t think defeating him would give his memories back, it’s most likely a kiss or a speech that brings them back.
Keep in mind it’s not the Shatterspin that made him lose his memory
Yeah there's no way Nya Is going to defeat him ....
@@Adrenalinerusherforlifeyeah, she hasn't got the guts...
@@karmaasm5320shut the f up they ain't gonna break up the Jaya ship that's not allowed
That makes sense. After all, he was the first Ninja to access Spinjiztu. It's like poetry, it rhymes.
i think because shatterspin based on strength and shattering goodness allow it. Jay being good again will perform shatterspin poorly and also like it is also a corrupted technique? so it will be remove just like airjitzu for being dark => theory👎
I could see it, but there’s one flaw. For Shatterspin to work, you can’t have any good left inside of you. And Jay’s personality, even if he turns evil, doesn’t match that at all. Unless Ras has done something we don’t know about…
I would imagine that Jay can’t naturally use Shatterspin since he’s likely still pure of heart, explaining why he doesn’t have the Shatterspin armour and why Kai, Sora, and Wyldfire didn’t got corrupted by the wolf masks at the Shadow Dojo.
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Here's my idea: Jay does learn Shatterspin, and is about to use it but Lloyd tells him that isn't who he is, and he somehow gets his memories back and uses Shatterspin against Lord Ras
Maybe he will combine rising dragon with shatterspin will make a combo attack
Quick question does anyone think Skyler and wildfire are even elementally related
I don't think they give jay shatter spin because it shatters the soul and I don't think the creators will give it him
Lego seems to be really taking control over leaks this time for part two. It's probably too soon for leaks to even happen but for our sake I hope they keep it all confidential.
I’m just gonna say this as another theory what if Jay or Lord Ras captures Cole and Cole learns shatter spin just a theory that can possibly happen
If he keeled. Shatterspin and still has it. He Could Combine it with What is elemental power
It would be so cool when jay is evil and joins back the ninja in like the very last episode still having shatter spin and possibly rising dragon
HAS NO ONE NOTICED ARINS SPINJITZU LOOKS LIKE SHATTERSPIN!?!!?
You know Jay had a teacher a very teacher you should know who it is I give you a hint blue jay he can come back and help Jay too
i acctualy do not want jay to be evil but it would be intresting to see jay do shhatterspin
My favorite is the dragons rising is Lloyd
tanner how is jay gonna use shatterspin for good if the technique will destroy all of his goodness
Or mabye its the opposite and jay will teach them spinjitzu just a theroy tho
He does not learn shatterspin
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Honestly hoping Jay gets to use Shatterspin, cuz that would look so coo fr.⚡️💙🥷⚡️
I hope it will be Jay vs Nya or Jay vs Cole
If this happens I wonder what Jay can do with Shatterspin and his lightning powers. Also I do hope we get a Jay v Nya battle, then maybe a Jay v Cole or in reverse.
nah idk think he gets Shatterspin just cuz he´ll be Evil that makes almost no sense just a little bit bro