How Jay Lost His Memory! ⚡ Ninjago Dragons Rising Season 2 Theory!
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Giving the ways Jay could have lost his memory during the merge I'd be incredibly disappointed if they made the reason behind his amnesia being a bang on the head and not something connected to the current plotline and characters
INTERESTING JAY VIDEO.
It actually fits with his character.
I'd cry if that happens because I'd just look like they're not taking his character seriously
help if it is infact a bang on the head I'm jumping off a cliff /j
Yeah, we don't need that Looney Tunes crap
I think it's worth considering that among the ninja, Jay was the only one who wasn't on the Bounty with the team. Perhaps him getting caught in the literal eye of the Merge may be the cause, but idk.
Also, we've seen Jay lose his sense of reason within days to a week at best in S9, so him losing his memories as a result of something silly wouldn't be too far-fetched.
Yep that is true and I agree with you but I want to see his memories come back
I just figured he hit his head really hard with flying around in the merge haha, it’d be very much a jay thing to do that.
Either way, it’d be awesome if this theory was true, adding some more detail to the story! I can’t wait for the reveal on how he canonly lost his memory.
Wow that’s actually a good theory 🤗! I can imagine him having troubles to control his mech after the merge and then 💥BOOM💥he crashes with the mech to the ground and waking up with no memories.
@@crwwpat woah that’s even better :0
Good one!
I thought that too I mean that is a thing Jay would do and it would be pretty funny and when the ninja are confused we know he just bumped his head
Regarding the theory about the source dragons representing specific elements, I believe it is more than a theory. Look at Dragon's Rising season 2, episode 3 when Lloyd and the source dragons have their "meeting," the source dragon with an Earth-looking symbol says (and I quote) "He wields an element. Who among us claims him?" Afterwards, the source dragon with the green symbol says he is one of hers. This interaction all but confirms that the source dragons have a connection to the elements the ninja and other masters use.
I definitely think this theory is a possibility, I just hope we see what happened perhaps in a flashback what exactly happened to Jay and his Titan Mech post merge. 👀🤞
Knowing them depending on how long he goes rogue for it could happen because again this is Jay one of the only Ninja to not have something happen to him because Kai was nearly corrupted by chens staff and Zane was corrupted by vex and nya by the water and Cole by becoming a ghost and Lloyd by losing his golden power
@@jasonlefebvre837Jay got hit by the dark matter in season 2 which corrupted him along with the other ninja bar Lloyd
What if the administration or some higher up saw Jay unconscious and erased his memories or something, knowing he's a ninja or to simply take him in as a new member.
Or what if it's somehow linked to the past seasons? Like, for example in s6 with the whole erased time-line thing and since he was the only one to remember with nya, it somehow messed something with him in the merge and portals since it also has something similliar to do with timeliness? Or from tournament of elements, when he got blown up in the mech and it gave him not that serious damage but the merge did something to him, what with him getting tossed and all.
My theory is pretty much the same theory to the second theory of yours but I think these are great ideas🙂
@@Happykid123-zi4kt thanks alot! Yeah I brainstorm a lot when it comes to jay xD
Cool theory but there is one Problem with it. If Jay lost His memorys because of Imperium draining the Power of the Energy source Dragon shouldn't Jay have lost His memorys before the merge? The source Dragon was captured before the merge after all and I doubt Beatrix would wait until the merge to darin His energy
Maybe it took effect on Jay once they were on the same Land? Since the merged realms fused their not seperated from eachother by a realm
@@rafaelrivera7594 you have a point,maybe it could only affect him if he was close by the energy source dragon so it could be possible to drain his memories too
I work simple I see jay I click
Same
Jay= my attention
Samme
So true I saw the trailer of Cole and instantly clicked but when I saw jay not here I went rage
Same. Jay is easily my Favorite Ninja in I'm curious on what Happens with Jay in dragons rising. He seems to Play a rather important role in Dragons rising and I'm really exited to See Jay as a Villain.
I always thought that jay lost his memories from having too much memories of losing his friends, so during the merge it somehow got to him and made his memories go bye
I like this theory. It makes sense, and when Jay recovers his memories, it's not just a click and BOOM! He's normal again, but as the source dragon recovers, Jay could regain his memories one by one.
Cool theory! Definitely adding it to my headcannon (The first one)
Honestly I’m still like on the side of the Merge happening because of killing the Overlord too many times upsetting the balance and causing the merge to happen and the Source Dragons could have easily stopped it but allowed it to happen because they don’t involve themselves in mortal affairs
Or they just say that, like motion did. Life and energy (more so energy) was against the idea of if they DIDN’T help with a mortal affair. Idk if that makes sense
Then again the overlord could’ve appeared over and over but since he technically is immortal, it would make a lot of sense being balance related
This is very interesting if it's true, because the source dragon of motion is under the control of Lord Ras. So could this have an effect on Kai?🤔
I would love to see something like Cole vs Jay 2.0.
I think were all forgetting a major fact about The Administration and that is in season 1 they mentioned that The Administration is part of the realm know as the Kingodm Of Madness now due to this fact I believe Jay after the Merge landed into the Kingdom of Madness and was wandering there trying to get back to the other Ninja but due to he couldn't find a way out his mind started going mad and the realm itself affected his mind after many years being stuck that it made him forget everything about him except his powers and then he stumbled into The Administration and without any knowledge of who he is he decided to join this group so he would have someplace that he belong to and had a home due to he had no othet place to go
This is probably and very likely what happened, idk why some people just look into things too much but yeah I agree with your theory
Your theory also isn't as much of a stretch as his memories going bye bye was from the source dragons
You just made me look at the Ninjago Dragons Rising Lore in a whole other way. Damn it makes sense as well.
We also need to remember that when Jay’s power was activated by Wu’s ghost and it was yellow lightning not blue, and also the symbol for the energy dragon is also like yellow lightning. But everything else in your theory lines up.⚡️🌩️
it was yellow and blue not just yellow
I love this theory a lot. Who ever thought of this is a genius!
I personally don't believe there's anything really behind it. Imo, I think it has to do with being trapped inside the realm of madness for 5 years as the people in the queue we see have no memory of why they are there as they just know there is a reason to it and their parents did it who presumably forgot why they did it so I think the realm just slowly drives you mad and you start to loose your memory
Tanner you need rest my guy 😂
I am going to agree with on what you’re saying tannerfishes. You’re really are on to something about how jay lost his memories and why he didn’t remember his friends and himself as a ninja anymore.
I’m getting the feeling Jay, Cole and Lloyd are soon getting their very own Dreamzzz Episode.
Lego dreamzzz mentioned?!😍😍😍😍
In regards to jay's role in the tournament, if the sets are anything to go by, I believe it'll be Kai who he faces (whoever runs the tournament would have brought Kai back from never space with the promise of freeing him it he wins) and so Kai would let jay beat him as he doesn't want to fight but would try and get through to jay and would break through partially so that jay partially remembers the ninja. Kai would see this and forefits the match, sentencing himself back to never space on the chance that the ninja could save jay. Lord Ras would then rebrainwash jay and he'll fight nya who would fully breakthrough to him and save him. Pretty similar to Bucky from captain America winter soldier
I click faster than the speed of light when I see Jay
Wait you guys know how tox and mr pale originated from ultra agents maybe they are apart of the administration since they are both agents based things so maybe ras convinces jay on his team so tox and mr invisible joined to
can't tell for light...but I know Tox's element, Poison likely stems from the Life SD, same as Lloyd's Energy power & Bolobo's Nature power
That makes sense
When it comes to solving his amnesia I hope it’s not solved as if it were temporary, where all the memories come flooding back after one moment. If Jay got injured in the merge it’s at least been like 3 years since the injury so regaining memories should take a couple of episodes at least because he’s been living a separate life for too long to have one memory flood back all. Seems like dragon rising wants to take their time with stuff so seems like they will head the long term route.
i agree 100%
the energy source dragon literally said elemental powers come from them
I think nya is going to bring his memory back after all what they did together
For sure. Like how else will he remember?
But hey, that’s just a theory, a…ninjago theory?
Off Topic but i always theorized that for part 2 how Jay might become evil is that Sprite will make him go crazy, 'Edit no not sprite the soda, Therers a small light ball thing in the show called sprite
Or he just hit his head after the merge 😅
Then that will be lazy writing
@@SICPARVISMAGNA3018 isn’t dragons rising in itself lazy writing? Besides the Kai ark ofc
@@2cps not really, dragons rising actually has consistent writing something the main show lost after the oni trilogy
@@SICPARVISMAGNA3018the writing in dragons rising isn’t that bad, but it’s not good. The amount of things the writers have just made up which we didn’t know before are just.. like Lloyd had green eyes in flashbacks, what’s her name, the skeleton woman meeting Wu. There are just so many other things messed up in the timeline.
@@2cps it's because there is so much lore in the show that it is constantly becoming more confusing
I’m getting the feeling It’s soon going to be Arin’s turn to get a new Power. AKA the Power of Recipes. From the pies he bakes.
Knowing jay he probably just ran into a wall and bonked his head so hard that he lost his memory, but I like your theory instead.
i doubt it . . . yeah he can he silly but hes not an idiot + thatd just be REALLY lazy writing
Maybe Jay crashed landed his Titan Mech and met Ras being separated and they got into a fight and Ras hit him so hard he got amnesia and before Ras could finish Jay the Administration showed up and took him to the administration and Jay now with memory loss kind of sweet talked his way into saying he’s an agent himself and he got lost and stuff and the administration probably did a lot of paperwork and stuff and boom pop pow he’s in the administration 😂
It would also make sense that Ras caused Jay to lose his memories because there’s really no reason Ras needs Jay unless he’s incountered him before and I’m gonna assume Ras meets jay again forces him to wear a mask and shatters the goodness in him being evil and idk maybe S3 is finally saving Jay and bringing him back to the light side
Or Ras uses Jay as a Sacrifice for the Forbidden 5 and one of them inhabits his body
Nice but I think it he was walk to try and find the other ninja then one of the administration agents came up to jay and could have found him useful but the only problem was he had elemental powers so they erased his memory, hoping he will never discover them
I don’t agree with this theory only because I feel like Dora might also might fall under the source of energy along with jay so I think Jay being the only one in a mech might have got tossed around and hurt his head in the mech and then the administration found him
Let’s find out
BRO THAT GENUINELY MAKES SENSE
Great theory! Im sure that the Source Dragons are associated with elemental masters of specific element.
Given the fact Administration has nindroids, serpentines and merlopians in their staff, I believe Jay is not the only agent with the amnesia
dude i can't believe you still make videos! i remember watching you back when sons of garmadon aired, so happy i rediscovered your channel again. :)
Bro is the matpat of ninjago
❤ 0:16
I think my boy jay just hit his head to hard
It's a very jay thing to do!!! 😅
what do you think of the theory that pixal is the administrator?
It is possible to happen but more real it would be if she was like how zane was in administration working
P.I.X.A.L is an ally of the ninja team and this theory makes no sense at all.
@@d1nq887 yeah that’s what i’m thinking. or she was corrupted/possessed somehow.
hmm....yes the source dragon of ENERGY,only removed jay's powers of the entire ninja team,and totally not the master of energy lloyd
Source Dragon of Life said he [Lloyd] is one of hers
I think the energy dragon has something to do with Jays memory loss but I don’t think it’s capture is the reason we don’t even know when it was captured it was probably an effect of the merge like all the missing people Jay just got lucky and lost his memory
This is such a brilliant theory
So does that mean when the former elemental master of smoke, Ash died a relative became the new master of smoke which is Cinder. This means that Cinder had to be a good person before the merge but he forgot his memory after the merge and if he was really evil he would have killed Ash before the merge
This gives me a theory
Could riyu somehow be the Grey and yellow source dragon
And maybe he is connected to elemental powers like wu's creation power
And due to his young age, causes Wu to turn into the spirit
Which could be remaining energy of his power due to aging backwards into nothing
And that could explain why Riyu aged so quickly within what seems to be only months after season 1
But it is just a theory
There is still the Grey dragon family Riyu was said to have come from
I have questions, about which Elemental masters are connected to which Source Dragons, like the master of metal could possibly be Strength or others like speed and etc...
Not to mention that we only know 4 of the Source dragons, 3 more are unconfirmed, they could be harmony or some other aspects
I would love to see a fight with Nya. I believe that it will be awesome I would also like to see a fight with Cole because it would be a nice throwback to s4
yessss
Isn't it obvious. The agency he works for erased his memory.
The Administration has lo relation to Jay's memory loss or atleast the normal agents maybe this "Administrator" guy but its still very doubtful
@@rafaelrivera7594 We don't know that. We know little about the Administration. Jay's story in Dragons Rising is very MCU Winter Soldier. One scene has to be Nya fighting Jay but doesn't know it's Jay. During the fight his hood comes off revealing Jay.
Nya:" Jay."
Jay:" Who's Jay?"
@@thomasbennett0 The agents are dumbasses who cant do anything right unless it has paperwork considering Zane worked there It would be assume they would have a Rule for a mind wipe or sum, and they would have defeneatly used it on zane. The only person thats capable is "The Administrator" because we dont know anything about him, besides that it was probably the Merge
@@rafaelrivera7594 Maybe they couldn't mind wipe Zane because he's not an organic being.
@@thomasbennett0 Yea but Hes a Robot which just makes him MORE easier to mindwipe
I think he just hit his head
Same that’s what I think I bet it’s going to be something dumb like he hit his head
@@Giraffecutie thatd be horrible and lazy writing....
@@TheRealTormentor I know I hope they don't do that
@@Giraffecutie I feel like people mischaracterize jay a lot, like... yeah hes goofy and has his silly moments but hes not an idiot moron who cant do anything right like people make him out to be and its so sad to see that people have zero media literacy LOL
@@Giraffecutie fr itd completely destory the whole purpose of him "turning evil" or working on the admins side. They most likey wont though because if they were gonna do smt that stupid they wouldnt have dedicated his reveal to be so secretive and surprsing. I just hope they write his arc good.
Finally a good dragons rising theory
Hey one thing, the source dragons being the “source of elemental powers” is probably true but what I think is source dragons are the source of elements of the world like “motion” or “strength”
This theory is the one theory of dragons rising that actually makes sense
1:31 Lloyd also has connection to energy dragon since he is master of energy
No, because Source Dragon of Life said he is one of hers
@@Rogue-838 yes but he is still master of energy and Lloyd was a conduit for energy from source dragon. Life claimed him cause he is from life.
@@Justaguywithfax
1st. According to Tommy Anderson "Energy" is not a proper term for Lloyd's power.
2nd:
Strength: He wields an *element* . Who among us claims him?
Life: He's one of mine. A descendent of the First.
If her claiming him isn't connected to his element, then bringing FSM up doesn't make sense
@@Rogue-838 because he is a descendant of the first. He is the descendent of the first life. And in tournament of power he was referred to at master of energy. When they all got dragons he screamed energy
@@Justaguywithfax FSM is not the first life. There were Dragons and Oni before him.
At the ToE Chen called him "Master of Power".
And yes, Lloyd yelled "energy" while summoning his dragon, but it was the only time he used this term.
"Energy" is just shorthand term for simplification
I’m now even more anxious about the next season I hope it come soon
I am itching to find out
Personally i feel like , in the merge part 1 they showed us the ninjas before they got separated but jay wasnt on the bounty,he was using a mech suit so maybe when the merge like officially happened he was in the eye of the merge so maybe when the realms joined together jay was hit with the blast and he lost his memory
What about sora her power properly belongs to the Energy Dragon
Lord rass’s boss is definitely the overlord. Luke the overlord said he always comes back. He is literally William afton of Ninjago 🤣
It's all so confusing at this stage, and it's driving me nuts. Too many possibilities. I can think of a ton of different reasons as to how Jay may have lost his memory, and why it looks like he ends up being on the side of the baddies. Too many unanswered questions with this, and other things. I'm still confused why the source dragon of motion is fire...? Fire is energy, literally. Fire is the sun, energy, the source of all life. Quite confusing. But anyway, anyone also remember that right before the merge, Sora said she wished she was not there, in Imperium, and then boom, the merge happened? Also, that one lone Djinn was hiding out, still alive after Djinnjago was destroyed? I feel like all this stuff must be connected somehow. They never revealed what Kai saw in those visions when they faced their worst fears either. Cole still hasn't revealed what he experienced on his lone quest. How the hell did Zane end up locked up in that, whatever it was? No explanation still for the weird fact that all these similar monasteries have cropped up all over, or the portals connecting them. The one in Mysterium has the SAME damage on the wall that Cole, and Jay put there. And none of them trip out over that, and try to figure it out? lol.
I like this theory
It makes more sense that jay was just told the ninja were bad cause lord ras seem to take advantage of people who are jelous of elemental masters like the empress and jordana
If that first theory is correct, there is a hole. Isn’t Lloyd’s power literally energy? Wouldn’t he lose memories too?
His power comes from the source dragon of life
@@Bric_kproduction ohhh tysm
What I think what happened is
Jay was in the suit flying saving people but when it went boom the suit could malfunction and he lost control so he crashed he hit his head and passed out then he was rescued by the administration. Jay was hurt and with no memory but they knew he was the lightning ninja so they kept him for season 2 or 3 Jay could remember and try to escape but he got got then the administration could use his lightning to power stuff. The other ninja has think a plan to rescue him.
It's a pretty cool theory to be honest and would make some sense. Though, I think that the only other Elemental Master that we know of that might be affected by the Energy Source Dragon not being able to do it's job right would be Griffin Turner, Master of Speed. It makes sense, to me at least, for Poison to be connected to the Life (green) Source Dragon, since it kinda has a nature aesthetic and Poison is part of nature and Light could be connected to either Motion or the gold and silver Source Dragons. 🤷♂️🤷♂️
good point
There are moments in the series, Jay may recover his memory to see a flashback with images from the previous seasons of Ninjago as well as Wilfilm or Widbrain and I hope you put the scenes with Nya from the Seabound season that would be a good theory
0:39 knew these symbols represented the elements from dragons rising season 1
I don’t think would dragon give elemental power since they don’t interfere with mortal affairs. I think the dragons in the first realm give elemental powers
This explains alot
I’m getting the feeling it’s soon going to be Kai’s turn to get the same NRG form as Nya from Sea-Bound. And then Wyldfyre, Zane, Cole, Jay and Sora, And last but not least, Lloyd and Arin.
Lloyd is the elemental master of energy.
you are to under rated
I think about your theory of "Backup plan" would have some sense weil Ras didnt succseed in bringing back all of the F5 and maybe he recruited Jay because maybe the previous Elemental Master of Lightning to be more specifically Jay's mother turned evil and she join the F5. It could be that she abandoned Jay because of that so he doesnt know her story and that she turned evil. Also Ras might need him because he has some kind of spell or something that can make Jay the "new" member of F5 along other Elemental Masters near Nokt that Ras maybe wants to recruit
I have a theory(ies) as well.
1. Remember Ash from the Tournament of Elements? All the Elemental Masters are still alive! Ash hasn’t been seen at all.
2. If Cinder is the new master of smoke, then does that mean that Ash is KO’d? Bcz if so, then I think that the capturing of the Source dragon of energy affected Ash and made him oof. Proof: Tox and (I think) Pale man are still in alive and in the sets. We also saw the Elemental masters in season 8-9 again! Skylar in season 16 once more! So just asking, could put all this in a vid, pls?
How is Poison coming from the Energy Source Dragon?
Yeah, I think it came from the Life Source Dragon. That or the strength one.
i love ninjago lore
Nya life sucks. First Jay, her love doesn’t remember her, and she lost her brother in the end of season 17.
guys there’s gonna be new m Lego m movie tanner you should talk about it it’s called “piece by piece”
My theory was since so many things were flying around during the merge, Jay just happen to get hit really hard by something and impact caused huge amnesia.
My second theory was that maybe he was fine after the merge but being in the realm of madness something happened to him that caused the amnesia.
guys the tournament battle arena with Cinder might be his true potential!
3:27 Sora ?
I think every Source Dragon is the source of at least 3 elemental powers. Motion could be fire, smoke and speed. Energy could be lightning, sound and heat. The thing is Wyldfyre should be affected also. We could swap one of the elements, but Idk which one
Imagine during the source tournament jay and nya fight and nya realizes its jay(assuming he’s masked up like the minifigure) but Jay eliminates her without hesitation
This is a very interesting theory if the source dragons determine what happens to the elementals tied to it this could bring interesting stories to the series like if a source dragon is killed do the elemental masters tied to it die to? Or is there element just gone forever?
I'm a bit confused because lloyd power is Energy, Right??
It's funny how any defense or argument for is "it's jay Soo"
kinda sad LMFAO hes goofy but hes not an absolute idiot😭😭
maybe raz master made jay lose his memory
That’s cool
Theory: what if Firstbourne is the first born of the Source Dragons?
Near the end of tournament of elements when all the masters are summoning there dragons they shout the name of there element and we can hear Lloyd shout energy so I don't think it has to do with the energy source dragon but maybe the administrator.
I agree with you tanner also if uou see jays suit the yellow colour resembles the yellow of the icon of the source dragon of energy thus making his suit yellow. Maybe the yellow color has some connection. And this theory is 60% true as we hear one of the source dragons saying to llyod hes one of mine. What does that line mean truly?
It resembles lightning
And why 60%
Lord Raz has something too do with Blood Moon??
Nah really I thought the overlord did
If Jay is wearing the wolf mask, so that is maybe why Jay is evil
7:25
What i really wnat to see happen is for jay ti come back with a power up that he gets a cloud as a pet that helps him in fighting and he can float on it sort of luke nimbus from dbz
My theory is that spending to long in the realm of madness will make you lose your mine and go mad and since Jay wakes up there he gradually loses his memories until we see him in season 1
Also isn’t Llyod’s element Energy which kinds of disproves your theory
3:27 lloyd and sora would also make sense