We could not agree more. Any quality rifle accessories are welcome gifts instead of the usual useless crap we get at Christmas, which gets thrown away.
I use that same Vortex scope, and it has worked well for me. In fact, I have used a Vortex optic on the last fifteen rifles that I have bought, and I haven't ever had a problem.
Tom I know exactly what you’re talking about with that black ring inside the scope. I’ve been a Leupold fan for years but I’ve switched to MeOpta going forward. They are a little heavier but the glass clarity, features and overall build quality you get with them match or surpasses much more expensive Leupold scopes IMHO. Love your content and I want to wish you and your family a Merry Christmas.
Congrats Tom on the Christmas gift that is on the way. You're right in that the accessories add up very quickly. I agree too that the Filipino made works a lot better than some other stuff in that area. I have it on better than good authority that I'm getting something new as well. However, it is more like your first center fire you mentioned so there is little need for accessories at this time.
in regards scopes: in Germany hunters seem to buy either, Swarovski, Zeiss, Leica... most of them costing between 1.800 and 2.800eur. I am closer to 50 than 40 and honestly I don't get the difference to more budget friendly scopes anymore. I kept 2 Swaro scopes and for the other rifles I use Steiner, GPO or DD Optics. DD Optics produces in Japan and you can buy them for 700to 900eur depending in the magnification and options. They come with paralaxe adjustment and a very good red dot reticle. Stay safe and sound and have a woderful christmas time!
I've been watching your videos for a while; I glean a lot from older gentlemen like yourself. I used to sell vortex binoculars and spotting scopes, they are much cheaper than Leupold. But a vx1 is just as clear as a viper or comparable priced vortex. I would buy Leupold even a used Leupold over a vortex upto a vortex razor which are awesome. I bought a Leupold vx1 when I was 16 and have had it since then and its hopped thru probably 5 different rifles. Cheers
I have on reliable authority (my own)that there will be one under my tree this year. Glad I already ordered that exact scope with Talley bases and rings from Midway before you told the world! 😅 Also a set of dies for a new to me caliber. Excited for Christmas this year.
Congrats Steve, and I think we're both excited this year! The only thing I have left to get is the dies. And I remembered this morning that I hadn't ordered my scope yet and figured I had better do it before this video came out just in case!
Great ideas and video as always, I love the talley lightweight base/ring combos. 45-55$ but they work great. I only use Leupold and Burris scopes. I've never had and issue with either. The price on that 4-16 Vortex is very impressive! Thank you again for all of your great videos.
Meopta meosport in R3 in 4x15 in 44mm for $400. On sale through Bud’s right now the best scope on the market right now for that price and free shipping too🤔😳 Leupold is my favorite too but for the same scope is $300. More plus shipping
Larger tube diameter if im not mistaken gives you more forgiveness when getting your eye up to the scope. Less shading on the edges. What i noticed on my lpvos . Take it for what its worth.
I live in WV. Most of my shots are pretty close. 140 is as far as I have ever shot a deer, which was this season. I have fallen in love with the Burris Fullfiele 2.5-10, illuminated. I’m a huge fan of the reticle and the scope seems really solid.
Joey I have a couple of 4x16 Burris scopes with the E1 reticle and those have been absolutely bullet proof. I've done most of my load testing with them and swap them from rifle to rifle all of the time and they just keep going. They also do great in low light. And cognates on the 140 yard shot! I just don't think most people realize that even 100 yards is a long shot in the field in field conditions without a bench and 140 certainly isn't anything to sneeze at.
If you are getting a 700 long action, I have, somewhere in my gun safe, a Redfield one piece dovetail base with adjustable windage and 1 inch rings. It is rock solid and served me well for 40+ years. The problem with it is many new scopes have shorter tubes and won't give you proper eye relief. I replaced it with a picatinny rail that gives me much more adjustability with today's scopes.
sounds like your getting a .280 rem, my dad has one in a rem 700 bdl, i love that gun and want to get one myself. 280 is a flat out shooter! sad they have dwindled in popularity, i opted for a 7mag for now while im still looking for a 280 rem.
2x7 or 2.5x8 scopes are Idea for deer hunt . Look at what scope magnification 270 Jack used out west. Use binoculars for glossing and sizing up deer. Leupold is the way to go. I find the 4.5 x14 too much magnification. I learned a hard lesson deer hunting with a 6x18 Scope many years ago. I like Burris Signature Scope mounts. I sight in adjusting the 2 piece scopes bases. Fine adjusting done with the Scope adjustments.
And now we know why they have that gold ring on the Leupold's! LOL Buck, I've never even looked through a VX5 in the store. I'm afraid it would cost me to much, but one day!
@@TomRiverSimpleLiving well it was for my rifle. You know the one ill pass down one day. Over all my other rifles this one will be known as grandpa rifle. I came out of pocket a little more for it. It really all came down to the cross hairs. I really like the wind plex. Along with the thickness. Or lack there of.
I didn't even know they went up to x20 in the Freedom line until I setup that 1885 Winchester and had already bought a Vortex. I was kicking myself for not getting the Leupold for that but for this rifle and for my budget for this rifle I think the Vortex is going to work well.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving I have a couple leupolds as well as a couple vortex. For the money you can beat the vortex. But there's something elegant about a leupold with that gold ring that looks so right on certain guns
Hey Tom. You need to take a hard look at the Trijicon 3x9 Accupoint TR20-2G. "1 tube, very compact, 13.4 Oz, green fiber optic dot, no batteries, always on, extremely clear glass and built like a tank. I've been running one since 2012 and it's never failed, best $600 you will ever spend....trust me 👍
Mtnhunter, that's one thing I always liked about the Trijicon, no battery. And I've always heard they were built like a tank. I could definitely see myself trying one in the future.
It sounds from what you have described as to wanting a Leupold maybe 3.5x10 vx3 40 mm one inch tube because they are lightweight and holds zero and doesn’t have a lot of extra garbage on them
Close! Actually for this particular rifle Scott I was wanting the 4.3 for 14. The 4.5 is a little high for me on the low end but I would never carry this rifle to the woods. It's strictly going to be a longer range rifle.
@@TomRiverSimpleLiving I actually put one of those Vortex Diamondback 4.5 to 14 hp on my 22-250 it’s got a side parallax adjustment and out of the small amount of vortex scopes I have I like this one the best of them the most reason I like Leupold scopes is like you said about looking through the scope and having a good view and the eye relief is the best with Leupold most of the time and other than varmit cartridges I don’t like my eye that close to the eye piece
An enjoyable video as always Tom. As I watched it, several thoughts came up. The first and biggest (and it kept recurring) is that I wonder if you guys realize how lucky you are? A rifle under the Christmas tree is just an absolute impossibility here wher I live. I know you avoid politics in your videos, bit you guys really need to do everything you can to protect yout 2nd ammendment rights. In my country, firearm ownership is considered a privelege. Secondly is the relative price of all this stuff. Now I don't know what you earn, but a budget rifle, a reasonable scope (like the one you chose), mounts and a sling would cost me about a full month's salary. And I am not anywhere near minimum wage either, I am an engineer with more than 25 years experience. I haven't been able to afford a new rifle since I got married 12 years ago. The next one is that I prefer Leopolds for the same reason you do. But clearly it's more important to me, because I only own two scopes that aren't Leopolds. The one I inherited from my dad and the other is a Nightforce, one of their first scopes that has served me reliably for more than 25 years. Lastly, some bad news: I am pretty sure that scope you just bought was made in the very country you don't want to buy from. God bless from South Africa.
Peter, I'm not sure why there's such a price difference but a budget rifle here is really cheap. $350.00 to $500 U.S. Just depending on what get. They may have gone up lately with inflation but a Savage Axis could be had all day long without a scope for around $300. Now most of the rifles I get are a little more pricey and honestly I can't afford so many, LOL! But I have a 2nd job called RUclips just to pay for them. If wasn't for that I would have just a fee rifles, a good shotgun, and a 22lr and that would be it. Now the scopes are what have really gone up in price and it's getting tough to afford a Leupold now compared to Vortex. And you are right about most of them being made in that country I don't like, but their mid grade scopes are made in Taiwan or the Philippines. Their high end scopes are made in Japan and the U.S. I always check on their scopes to make sure a particular one I'm looking at wasn't made in that other country. I would still much prefer Leupold it's getting really hard to justify the extra expense. And you're right about us needing to hang onto the 2nd Ammendment. It's just a shame more countries don't have the same.
Scott I was pretty sure it didn't but I didn't even want to open that can of worms. I don't even know that a 50mm objective makes any practical difference.
I spent the extra money and bought a Carl Ziess scope with all the bells and whistles on it and hate that thing . Was not worth the money. Nothing like wasting hard earned money 😢
I can promise you that im not getting a rifle for christmas. But i know a certain guy who is just gonna buy myself one anyway.. Maybe not a rifle but im sure ill be a nice guy and get me something sweet. Ill even act surprised when i get it so im fooled into thinking i didnt know about it.
LOL, I resemble those remarks! I figured out a long time ago that after a certain point the rifle you buy yourself as a gift is the best because you get what you want. If Mrs. River was getting me a rifle she would pick one because it was pretty and I would wake up to find a pink 22lr cricket under the tree.
We could not agree more. Any quality rifle accessories are welcome gifts instead of the usual useless crap we get at Christmas, which gets thrown away.
Hopefully this gives some people gift ideas!
Enjoyed the video Tom, your views on hunting and taking ethical shots are on par with mine . Thanks for ideas on purchasing gear !
I'm glad you enjoyed it Mike.
I like Leopold, Simmons, Bushnell, Bushnell being my favorite
I use that same Vortex scope, and it has worked well for me. In fact, I have used a Vortex optic on the last fifteen rifles that I have bought, and I haven't ever had a problem.
Tom, I love the Vortex scopes. Good glass but the warranty is unbeatable. Buy it once and that's it. Can't beat Vortex and reasonable priced.
Tom I know exactly what you’re talking about with that black ring inside the scope. I’ve been a Leupold fan for years but I’ve switched to MeOpta going forward. They are a little heavier but the glass clarity, features and overall build quality you get with them match or surpasses much more expensive Leupold scopes IMHO. Love your content and I want to wish you and your family a Merry Christmas.
Marvin scopes?
Nice video! I envy you having a chance at finding a new rifle under the tree. Best of luck!
Congrats Tom on the Christmas gift that is on the way. You're right in that the accessories add up very quickly. I agree too that the Filipino made works a lot better than some other stuff in that area. I have it on better than good authority that I'm getting something new as well. However, it is more like your first center fire you mentioned so there is little need for accessories at this time.
Warne mounts are awesome. I have a tikka t3x with their mounts. Solid. Very solid.
in regards scopes: in Germany hunters seem to buy either, Swarovski, Zeiss, Leica... most of them costing between 1.800 and 2.800eur. I am closer to 50 than 40 and honestly I don't get the difference to more budget friendly scopes anymore. I kept 2 Swaro scopes and for the other rifles I use Steiner, GPO or DD Optics. DD Optics produces in Japan and you can buy them for 700to 900eur depending in the magnification and options. They come with paralaxe adjustment and a very good red dot reticle. Stay safe and sound and have a woderful christmas time!
I've been watching your videos for a while; I glean a lot from older gentlemen like yourself. I used to sell vortex binoculars and spotting scopes, they are much cheaper than Leupold. But a vx1 is just as clear as a viper or comparable priced vortex. I would buy Leupold even a used Leupold over a vortex upto a vortex razor which are awesome. I bought a Leupold vx1 when I was 16 and have had it since then and its hopped thru probably 5 different rifles. Cheers
I have on reliable authority (my own)that there will be one under my tree this year. Glad I already ordered that exact scope with Talley bases and rings from Midway before you told the world! 😅 Also a set of dies for a new to me caliber. Excited for Christmas this year.
Congrats Steve, and I think we're both excited this year! The only thing I have left to get is the dies. And I remembered this morning that I hadn't ordered my scope yet and figured I had better do it before this video came out just in case!
Great ideas and video as always, I love the talley lightweight base/ring combos. 45-55$ but they work great. I only use Leupold and Burris scopes. I've never had and issue with either. The price on that 4-16 Vortex is very impressive! Thank you again for all of your great videos.
Hi Tom. Why not have a look at Meopta?. They are superb. European glass and nothing made by the reds in those brother.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and keep your videos coming please.
Meopta meosport in R3 in 4x15 in 44mm for $400. On sale through Bud’s right now the best scope on the market right now for that price and free shipping too🤔😳 Leupold is my favorite too but for the same scope is $300. More plus shipping
It's tough to get the Leupold's with those kind of price differences.
Very sound advice! Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Tom you might be getting a 7 mm Remington Magnum for Christmas
Larger tube diameter if im not mistaken gives you more forgiveness when getting your eye up to the scope. Less shading on the edges. What i noticed on my lpvos . Take it for what its worth.
I live in WV. Most of my shots are pretty close. 140 is as far as I have ever shot a deer, which was this season. I have fallen in love with the Burris Fullfiele 2.5-10, illuminated. I’m a huge fan of the reticle and the scope seems really solid.
My M77 II 30-06 never failed me up in Lewis County. Coming from SC, I wasn't prepared for the many gunshots I heard on opening day either. Ha!
Joey I have a couple of 4x16 Burris scopes with the E1 reticle and those have been absolutely bullet proof. I've done most of my load testing with them and swap them from rifle to rifle all of the time and they just keep going. They also do great in low light. And cognates on the 140 yard shot! I just don't think most people realize that even 100 yards is a long shot in the field in field conditions without a bench and 140 certainly isn't anything to sneeze at.
If you are getting a 700 long action, I have, somewhere in my gun safe, a Redfield one piece dovetail base with adjustable windage and 1 inch rings. It is rock solid and served me well for 40+ years. The problem with it is many new scopes have shorter tubes and won't give you proper eye relief. I replaced it with a picatinny rail that gives me much more adjustability with today's scopes.
And that's why I'm going with a rail on this one rifle.
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4x14 leupold 3x is funky on setting a full view objective
sounds like your getting a .280 rem, my dad has one in a rem 700 bdl, i love that gun and want to get one myself. 280 is a flat out shooter! sad they have dwindled in popularity, i opted for a 7mag for now while im still looking for a 280 rem.
Great video Mr Tom
Thanks 308guy!
2x7 or 2.5x8 scopes are Idea for deer hunt . Look at what scope magnification 270 Jack used out west. Use binoculars for glossing and sizing up deer. Leupold is the way to go. I find the 4.5 x14 too much magnification. I learned a hard lesson deer hunting with a 6x18 Scope many years ago. I like Burris Signature Scope mounts. I sight in adjusting the 2 piece scopes bases. Fine adjusting done with the Scope adjustments.
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I love my long range rig and the way I have it set up for clear cuts here in Florida it’s worked every time 7mm rem mag is almost hard to beat
Remington 700 mountain rifle in the rifleman/hunter cartridge
6.5 Swiss is my guess.
And we'll find out Christmas morning if you're right! LOL
I just married a leopold. Vx 5 with wind plex to my rifle. 3x15x44. I like it a lot.
And now we know why they have that gold ring on the Leupold's! LOL Buck, I've never even looked through a VX5 in the store. I'm afraid it would cost me to much, but one day!
@@TomRiverSimpleLiving well it was for my rifle. You know the one ill pass down one day. Over all my other rifles this one will be known as grandpa rifle. I came out of pocket a little more for it. It really all came down to the cross hairs. I really like the wind plex. Along with the thickness. Or lack there of.
I miss the nikon scopes
They were good scopes and I was thinking the same thing while I was looking at the different brands available now.
I would take a look at swfa 3x9 hunting scope. I have a 10x for my long range shooting great glass and a lot more rugged than Leopold vx3
Tom! Leupold has a vx freedom 6-18x40 for 499$
I have one on my 270. Its perfect. Trimoa reticle and cds capable
I didn't even know they went up to x20 in the Freedom line until I setup that 1885 Winchester and had already bought a Vortex. I was kicking myself for not getting the Leupold for that but for this rifle and for my budget for this rifle I think the Vortex is going to work well.
@TomRiverSimpleLiving I have a couple leupolds as well as a couple vortex. For the money you can beat the vortex. But there's something elegant about a leupold with that gold ring that looks so right on certain guns
Hey Tom. You need to take a hard look at the Trijicon 3x9 Accupoint TR20-2G. "1 tube, very compact, 13.4 Oz, green fiber optic dot, no batteries, always on, extremely clear glass and built like a tank. I've been running one since 2012 and it's never failed, best $600 you will ever spend....trust me 👍
Mtnhunter, that's one thing I always liked about the Trijicon, no battery. And I've always heard they were built like a tank. I could definitely see myself trying one in the future.
Did you find that 280? If I shot right hand they had a great rem 700 bdl with a drop mag. Beautiful wood. If it was left hand it would be in the mail.
We're going to have to wait until Christmas morning to see!
Buddy of my brothers want me to put a scope on his Winchester 30-30. What would you recommend for a rifle that's 100 yard rife or less?
It sounds from what you have described as to wanting a Leupold maybe 3.5x10 vx3 40 mm one inch tube because they are lightweight and holds zero and doesn’t have a lot of extra garbage on them
Close! Actually for this particular rifle Scott I was wanting the 4.3 for 14. The 4.5 is a little high for me on the low end but I would never carry this rifle to the woods. It's strictly going to be a longer range rifle.
@@TomRiverSimpleLiving I actually put one of those Vortex Diamondback 4.5 to 14 hp on my 22-250 it’s got a side parallax adjustment and out of the small amount of vortex scopes I have I like this one the best of them the most reason I like Leupold scopes is like you said about looking through the scope and having a good view and the eye relief is the best with Leupold most of the time and other than varmit cartridges I don’t like my eye that close to the eye piece
Good video would this maybe be a 284win rifle
The HUNTERS cartridge. ?
An enjoyable video as always Tom. As I watched it, several thoughts came up.
The first and biggest (and it kept recurring) is that I wonder if you guys realize how lucky you are? A rifle under the Christmas tree is just an absolute impossibility here wher I live. I know you avoid politics in your videos, bit you guys really need to do everything you can to protect yout 2nd ammendment rights. In my country, firearm ownership is considered a privelege.
Secondly is the relative price of all this stuff. Now I don't know what you earn, but a budget rifle, a reasonable scope (like the one you chose), mounts and a sling would cost me about a full month's salary. And I am not anywhere near minimum wage either, I am an engineer with more than 25 years experience. I haven't been able to afford a new rifle since I got married 12 years ago.
The next one is that I prefer Leopolds for the same reason you do. But clearly it's more important to me, because I only own two scopes that aren't Leopolds. The one I inherited from my dad and the other is a Nightforce, one of their first scopes that has served me reliably for more than 25 years.
Lastly, some bad news: I am pretty sure that scope you just bought was made in the very country you don't want to buy from.
God bless from South Africa.
Peter, I'm not sure why there's such a price difference but a budget rifle here is really cheap. $350.00 to $500 U.S. Just depending on what get. They may have gone up lately with inflation but a Savage Axis could be had all day long without a scope for around $300. Now most of the rifles I get are a little more pricey and honestly I can't afford so many, LOL! But I have a 2nd job called RUclips just to pay for them. If wasn't for that I would have just a fee rifles, a good shotgun, and a 22lr and that would be it. Now the scopes are what have really gone up in price and it's getting tough to afford a Leupold now compared to Vortex. And you are right about most of them being made in that country I don't like, but their mid grade scopes are made in Taiwan or the Philippines. Their high end scopes are made in Japan and the U.S. I always check on their scopes to make sure a particular one I'm looking at wasn't made in that other country. I would still much prefer Leupold it's getting really hard to justify the extra expense. And you're right about us needing to hang onto the 2nd Ammendment. It's just a shame more countries don't have the same.
Spend the extra money and get what you really want and the Leupold warranty is the best. Buy USA. Just one opinion.
Amen!
Good on no cccp stuff .
Tube diameter doesn’t correlate with more or less light.
Scott I was pretty sure it didn't but I didn't even want to open that can of worms. I don't even know that a 50mm objective makes any practical difference.
Sending my wife this video😂😂
I have a new England 243 single shot
7prc?
Or 6.5.
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I spent the extra money and bought a Carl Ziess scope with all the bells and whistles on it and hate that thing . Was not worth the money. Nothing like wasting hard earned money 😢
Santa bringing you a 7 mauser in rem 700 my prediction from the 140
I’m sure said rifle that maybe coming for Christmas.. might be chambered in 280 Remington 🤷🏼♂️ just saying..
Talley one pc are lower, but two pc are higher
And clear glass….shouldn’t that be #1?
OK Tom, stop beating around the bushes. What rifle is going under the tree?
We're going to have to wait until Christmas morning and see!
im guessing its not a 17 hornet LOL
LOL
I can promise you that im not getting a rifle for christmas. But i know a certain guy who is just gonna buy myself one anyway..
Maybe not a rifle but im sure ill be a nice guy and get me something sweet. Ill even act surprised when i get it so im fooled into thinking i didnt know about it.
LOL, I resemble those remarks! I figured out a long time ago that after a certain point the rifle you buy yourself as a gift is the best because you get what you want. If Mrs. River was getting me a rifle she would pick one because it was pretty and I would wake up to find a pink 22lr cricket under the tree.
7 PRC.Or 6.5.
We're just going to have wait until Christmas morning to see! LOL
TOM, only thing you are getting is a piece of coal. 😊😊😊😊
That's way better than a bundle of switches! Believe me I know. LOL
280 Remington
We're just going to have to wait until Christmas morning and see!
Why are you being so cheap, when buying a scope. 😊😊
Because I just bought a truck and I'm remodeling a house! The only way I'm getting away with this is Mrs. River doesn't watch my videos. LOL