Interesting to note here: as Korra's dad is descended from the ruler of the Northern Water Tribe, this technically means that Korra is distantly related to Princess Yue.
The theory is Yue was supposed to be the Avatar after Aang. That’s why she was born an empty vessel and her parents had to have the Moon spirit give her life. But because Aang was frozen that couldn’t happen.
@@Josephryker Non-sensical theory. Aang would've have to have died. But if he hadn't been frozen, when would he have died? Could've been at ANY point. The Fire Nation could've killed him in their initial attack, 84 years before Yue was born. Or during later battles, while he struggled without any support to learn the other elements. Or he could've died of old age in his 80's 20 years before she was born, or in his 100's after she was born. There's no "supposed to" here, otherwise it would've simply happened.
Korra is basically if someone like Zuko was the Avatar. Aang was the complete opposite: calm and while immature completely connected to his past lives. And because the more physically demanding bending elements came easy to Korra, it makes sense that someone of her temperament couldn't quickly grasp airbending or connecting with the spirits.
@@zero3644 Yeah, no one's denying that. But pretending like he was a focused individual is just lying. Him being a kid only makes it make sense, but it doesn't change the fact that he was avoiding his responsibilities.
The creators deliberately crafted korra to be the polar opposite of aang. Where aang was free flowing korra was headstrong and confident. Where aang succeeded in the spiritual side korra has the most difficulty.
"I guess I'm just so used to people just telling me how to do things that I forgot what it was like to have someone trust in me." This is precisely the thought process that pushed her to the decisions that she's made so far this season. People don't wanna give her the opportunity to make her own decisions, and in doing so they unintentionally pushed her away.
@@robling1937 I truly don't get this. When Aang lost Appa, people were so quick to defend Aang and his actions. When Katara told Sokka that he didn't love Kya the way she did, and decided the use bloodbending in a fit rage, people were quick to defend her. The moment Korra does something? People were so quick to just toss her away. 😂
The Northern Chief was always the ruler of the two Water Tribes, but the South had an autonomy that increased after the disconnection between them throughout the war. The incident with the spirits caused the North's desire to reinforce its authority over its southern brothers while trying to help them in its own way.
Aang wasn't really driven. He actively ran away from being Avatar. The real difference is that Aang was given freedom to explore and had someone who believed in his skills whereas Korra doesn't. Dhe was forced into solitude, she didn't get to choose her bending Masters or travel the world, and the people who are supposed to be closest to her constantly undermine her for their own reasons. And they won't even tell her what the reasons are. Even with Mako, the way he interacts with Korra is in his self interest. She vents and he gives an opinion she didn't necessarily ask for. She directly asks him for advice and he side steps. Her dad is an impediment and Mako tries to step in as her dad's proxy when she's making it clear that's not what she needs.
I won't lie.. I never got the hate for this season. The worst thing is Korra not communicating with Mako a bit. Most other things are really well done imo
I feel like most of the hate comes from Korra continually making rash decisions and not listening to the people closest to her. LIke you said, she had terrible communication with Mako, and her father and Tenzen.
True that but it's still very real. Korra never had a friend, let alone any romatic relationship until this point, she's crealy clueless about how a relationship works. Now when it comes to Tenzin, Even though she crearly needs airbending training, spirits are kill*ng people and attacking ships, how she as the avatar Will be just like "that doesn't matter, let's go to the tamples and ignore all the damage spirits are making" 💀 it's her job to do something and Tenzin was hiding that from her and just want to take her traveling. And Tonrak, when korra wanted to listen he wouldn't Say anything. And when he actually spoke it was just to tell her he and Tenzin decided to lock her up without Even telling her why and that he caused damages his people. Tonrak only Warned her not to go to the forest bc it was dangerous for her, and that's it, while Unalaq, the one that Made Tenzin and Tonrak look useless againts the Spirits, the one that is spirit Master and that has a Lot of knowledge about what's going is guiding her. I'd be fooled by him as well, Unalaq it's just so good at manipulating. But people just see a "rush" korra and completely ignore the backgroun
Seeing Tarloq as a young General defending his tribe, kinda makes me want to see like 20 year old Sokka leading the southern hunters. Did any of the Waterbenders from the North relocate to help repopulate the South's Waterbenders. Or was Katara the only one for years until her daughter was born?? We know that at least SOME Waterbenders must have moved to help build up Republic City because there are Waterbenders in the Pro league AND Waterbenders on the council AND in the triple Threat Triad Gang - that's the whole identity of their Gang name. triple Threat: Water, Fire and Earth so we know that Some Waterbenders will move around. But seeing Sokka and possible Suki as Generals?? That's dope.
The end of season 1 and the first episode of season 2 of AtLA showed us that Paku and other waterbenders went to the south pole to help support the southern tribe. The comics actually show how the efforts to rebuild the southern water tribe went for Katara and Sokka, I think
Yes, because Paku said they were going to help rebuild. The south so logic would dictate that Northern water tribe. members decided to move down there to help them repopulate, and to gain some of the culture they lost due to the hundred year war.
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Please dont take the negative comments about this book too seriously! These people seem to have very personal & emotional reactions to the idea that the whole show in general is not for them.
I liked the idea of this show and its characters, they just executed them really poorly and this book especially felt completely out of touch with the nature of Avatar in general.
The entire premise of the big final confrontation though? The setting was so wonderfully eastern until then. And the worst part is they could have made that setup eastern as well. It's clearly inspired by eastern concepts. But it has gone the typical superficial interpretation way.
One thing I've noticed is Korra at this point has a very shallow view of what it means to be the Avatar. Like a child who thinks being a superhero means saving the world from evil. There's so much more to the job and unfortunately she hasn't been talking to the people who know best, her past lives. So instead she's doubles down on the physicallity and is getting equally as shallow and bad 2nd hand advice. This is something she has to feel out for herself. Unfortunately, there's always one facet to The Avatar's personality that is their own worst enemy. I don't dislike Korra as a character, but her brash impulsivity causes way more problems than it solves and in these coming episodes my exhaustion with her reaches it's peak. I wish I could sympathize more with her but I'm about as far removed from Korra in personality as you can get; my brain simply does not run on that wavelength so I cannot relate to her really...🤷♀️
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I'm surprised that NO ONE was suspicious that Unalaq ALONE was able to not only predict this would happen but also be the ONLY ONE capable of stopping it. I mean there couldn't BE a louder more attention drawing action as this. Unalaq says he had been warning his brother for a long time. Then this happens and HE alone controls and stops the rampaging spirits. Unalaq alone?????? NO ONE else had ANY spiritual connections????
The shows did a horrible job at explaining that The Northern Water Tribe and Southern Water Tribe are both under the same ruler. The 100 year war severed their connection which is why the south is so different from the north. So basically, the north is not invading BUT definitely imposing power over a group of people who have skewed away from Northern traditions and identity.
The sexism and misogyny from Aang fan boys always makes for a great time when watching this show! They can't critique it without defaulting to misogyny, it's actually mind blowing
Only real fanboys appreciate both even if they liked one over the other. The fans of this franchise are supposed to be more welcoming, not toxic like other franchises
@@Depressed_until_dead I'm literally a girl and I prefer lok over atla too but I know that a chunk of criticism that Korra gets would not exist if she was a male avatar. Trash avatar my ass
Where's this misogyny? I've seen people love or hate the show or various characters, but haven't seen anyone trashing women just because they're women.
When he says unite the tribes, he doesn't mean to form 1 tribe he is in control of. He just means build good relation with them and make them stronger spiritually.
"im so used to having people tell me what to do" first episode of the show she hides on a boat and goes to republic city to do whatever the hell she wants. that's why Maple struggled to explain her character traits, because she is wildly inconsistent. she is whatever the plot demands at that moment
yes but befor that she spent years doing what the white lotes told her to do and stayed in there compoand mastering the first three elaments as far as we know that was her first true act of rebelion agenst the wite lotes and her perants and even then it was because she wanted to learn airbending to becom a full avatar and begin helping people.
@@duncanforder-cross8130 we never see that though. it's just told to us. "show don't tell" is how a show is supposed to work. for the whole first season (starting in the first 5 minutes of episode 1) she does whatever she wants, and then at the start of the second season she tries to say she's only done what other people told her to do.. but we don't really see that. that's weak writing
@@johnnyboro9558 Fair point and i know it's not the same but in atla we dont see the start of the war and are just told about it i always thout of her childhood like that we never see the airtempels being attaked and we don't see her groing up isolated from everyone her age and doing what she is told.
@@duncanforder-cross8130 that's a decent comparison. as you said it's not the same, i think a big difference is if we had an episode showing the start of the war and the destruction of an air temple it wouldn't directly affect our main characters or add to their character. if we got a full episode of say Korra being 12 years old in the white lotus camp, being treated like a weapon or a tool rather than a person- maybe old katara could say aang was only 12 when he traveled the world. she would feel like she is trapped. if we spent some time doing that it would've added a lot to her character and help explain her drive to be independent and to make decisions by/for herself
This episode is what made me not like Korra for a while. I remember being drained from watching this episode when it aired. Korra hears her father's story about how he was unfortunately banished from his home and made it about herself & she kept treating Mako poorly when when he is just trying to be supportive & helpful. Sure you can chock it up to her being a teenager & yes behavior like that is very common, but so is catching a cold. They're not not a good. There's no excuse to justify it & she needs to apologize.
@@ayoubazahaf1511 She was pretty unfair to Mako, though. He's been nothing but supportive towards her so far in Book 2, yet she tends to exude anger towards him. While I can understand it, she's the Avatar and has a lot on her plate with no real outlet for that frustration, she's taking it out on the person that's trying to emotionally support her the most.
Lol. It's both funny and sad that they have so much interest for this season, thinking it will explain the story it's setting up. I hope they can end up enjoying it. It felt like such a disappointment for me.
Maybe this is my rejection of everything religious talking but HOW is that bad?? Would you really allow a vicious brutal enemy to escape JUST BECAUSE there's a religious building in the way. Knowing that if you LET them escape they WILL be back to butcher MORE of your people?? This wasn't an "IF they return" scenario. Tarloq KNEW that they would. By NOT chasing them it would just give them an advantage that they could exploit later on. If you are a terrorist or barbarian and you KNOW your victims WILL NOT attack on holy ground then Holy ground is where you do your vilest actions, because you KNOW there will be no retaliation. There's a line in a movie that I remember hearing (I think it was from Catfish) where someone says: "in order to prevent terrorism we have to make it as unappealing as possible.
You know those kinds of people who are left out of the loop about a certain subject and make it seem like EVERYONE was lying to her out of spite?? Let's say for example that you are married and someone you know confides a secret to you. Then later on your spouse finds out and accuses you of lying this whole time for NOT gossiping about that other person. The point is that if that person WANTED your spouse to know THEY would have told them. You CANNOT be pissed at someone for keeping a secret that is by rights NOT their secret to share. Tarloq having been banished has literally NOTHING to do with HER. she quite frankly has NO RIGHT to be informed of that event. It's like how Papparazzi and reporters used to claim, "The people have a right to know!!" Well no; they don't. It doesn't concern them. tarloq beeing banished doesn't in any way whatsoever change anything in Korra's life. He's still her father, he still loves her and he still has his own personal issues with HIS brother. Knowing any of this would not have changed Korra's life in the slightest. If there were a multiverse in where Korra was aware of what happened, NOTHING would be different. Unaloq would still have showed up, Korra would STILL have gone to learn from him. So her entitled "You should have told me!" is just selfish. She's showing that she really only cares when SHE wants to. Ah....Okay I'm done now. 'cause I can Hate on Korra all day every day. and despite how it appears, I don't like getting worked up and hating on shit. So Imma go have a Snickers and an Oh Henry and cool off; maybe even a Kit kat....OOOOH some Caramilk chucks Ice cream sound even better. Yep yep.
I mean, she's the Avatar. She's supposed to be bridge between the human world and the spirit world. If her father is one of the people directly responsible for the spirit attacks happening, then she, as the Avatar, who's job it is to maintain balance and order between the two realms, should know.
Bragging and arrogantly saying she's supposed to be the bridge between spirits and the physical world and she's connected to the spirits a whole ONE Time. This is the arrogance I'm talking about. she's that person who gets TOLD something, never verifies it to be true and then arrogantly defends what she was told as if there could be NO other side.
@@RiffRaffish It never is whenever you have an unpopular opinion and try to defend it again assholes saying "you have problems" No one even bothers to discuss it's straight to the insults and personal attacks. then when you defend yourself and show that you WON'T be bullied into submission THEN it's "relax bro it's just a cartoon" Well to hell with all of you for pushing the buttons that get people to lose their shit and then trying to backpedal by saying "relax bro it's not that serious." If it's not that serious then WHY DF are you coming at me in the first place?? Make up your minds. Is it serious enough to attack me and insult or is it NOT?? You can't have both. I won't LET you.
You are entitled to your opinion and it can be frustrating when people attack you for having an unpopular opinion on some form of media. It see it happen all the time online. But going berserk mode in the comments isn't going to make people suddenly agree with you. At the end of the day it's a TV show that people will interpret differently and experience differently. Sorry if you thought I was coming after you but that's what I mean when I say it isn't that deep. Yeah, we don't agree with you. You don't know these people and nobody will remember this tomorrow, why waste your mental energy on it if it's not an actually real problem. @@patrickcromwell7554
although I agree that Unaloq is a very bland Villain, I 100% agree with his telling Korra that he wan't training her to "fight spirits," but to help her open herself up to her spiritual side. It's THIS mentality more than anything for my Korra-bashing. It's like the writers of THIS series watched an abridged version of Avatar The last Airbender and decided it NEEDED to "be better." Just like how Disney is always "fixing" their classics for modern audiences. But what's worse is that they actually DO understand what bending is supposed to be and just decide that Korra is a super girl-boss so she doesn't need to connect spiritually because she's naturally talented "just because." The line of her utterly ignoring her spiritual side from the pilot episode is so spot on, such a perfect example of WHY Korra is a trash Avatar. she literally believes herself to BE better than everyone. Saying stupid ass things like "Maybe I don't even NEED Airbending, did you ever think of that??" just shows how the writers want Korra to be a bad ass girl boss just because she's a girl.
Just like Aang put off fire bending for the longest time, huh??? Every avatar has their shortcomings and this was Korra's. It's giving misogyny and your reluctance to understand and accept that Korra is a complex character is indicative of that
You can't even see that your whole argument is leaning on misogyny, critique the show all you won't but this line of critique is reductive and misogynist
Her saying was showing casing how frustrated she was with doing being able to get it. It's extremely common for people to lashout like that. Plus she apologizes in that same episode.
Lolwut? The writers didn't want Korra to be a badass girl boss "that don't need no airbending." There's so much to unpack with your comment, I don't even know where to begin. 😂
It really does depend on which thing you watch first. I saw LoK before ATLA, and I found ATLA insanely boring and childish for the first two seasons or so, especially bad in season 1. There was just so much throwaway wasted time, and I had such a hard time connecting to the incongruity of these kids sometimes acting like full ass adults and sometimes acting like kids half their age. Korra was way easier for me to relate to. So I hear these reactions and read the comments and I'm jut like, Jesus, people remember ATLA with such rose-colored glasses. Then I remember I had to restart it like six times because I kept falling asleep from boredom and disinterest, to say nothing of the jank ass animation and terrible voice acting. Zuko's voice is still like nails on a chalkboard to me. Obviously, this is an unpopular opinion. But it just comes down to the second series I watched didn't live up to the shadow of the first series I watched, even with all of its goofiness. Without a point of comparison, I just fell in love with Korra and I felt like her struggles with establishing her identity were so interesting.
Korra's outrage at her father being banished is yet another example of her having been enabled leading to her sense of entitlement. While 50% of the faut for Korra being enabled is NOT hers, the 50% that IS hers is incredibly ridiculous. what I see in Korra is her being utterly humiliated that she CAN'T Airbend right away so she actively overcompensates for it.
She had every right to be upset at her father. I would be just as mad at my dad if I found out he locked up in a compound all my life and lied to me about his past. 100% justified and he admits it himself. Korra is the outcome of her mentors and environment. Locking her up and not letting her travel the world and learn who she was outside the Avatar stunted her spiritual and emotional growth. Even aang before the war was traveling the world. He had all this freedom and Korra had none. Seeing this whole world unfold before her now and realizing it was hidden from her must have felt like betrayal.
@@Vladoominator He admits it because that's what the writers want. They want you kn Korra's side in every matter. But you saying yo'd be upset if you found out about your parents past that happened before you were even born....well that make you entitled. Thinking you have a RIGHT to know something that has NOTHING to do with you is entitlement. Angry for being sheltered... okay that one gets a TINY LITTLE sympathy, but just a little; did being locked away HARM Korra in any way??? No. Did she STILL learn all the Bending she needed?? YES. Besides the fact that there is a perfectly GOOD reason for keeping her hidden AND for not telling her. Telling her, WOULD have harmed her.
@@patrickcromwell7554 she's the Avatar! It has everything to do with her. She's literally being attacked by spirits that her dad played a part in upsetting. Told her it didn't matter when it obviously mattered a lot. You're straight up ignoring parts of my comments to make your points. I'm saying locking her up was harmful for her spiritually and emotionally. Just because she still learned all the bending doesn't excuse that. And anything we know of why they did does not exist at this point in the show. And I still don't agree they did the right thing even knowing that.
@@patrickcromwell7554 Korra is the Avatar. If her dad upset the spirits then why would she not be entitled to that information? I'm so confused on how you are justifying this, lol.
Interesting to note here: as Korra's dad is descended from the ruler of the Northern Water Tribe, this technically means that Korra is distantly related to Princess Yue.
@NO-1_H3r3 Do you know the theory of Yue was supposed to be the avatar?
@swankified77 Well she's not lol 😂...
The theory is Yue was supposed to be the Avatar after Aang. That’s why she was born an empty vessel and her parents had to have the Moon spirit give her life. But because Aang was frozen that couldn’t happen.
@@Josephryker Non-sensical theory. Aang would've have to have died. But if he hadn't been frozen, when would he have died? Could've been at ANY point. The Fire Nation could've killed him in their initial attack, 84 years before Yue was born. Or during later battles, while he struggled without any support to learn the other elements. Or he could've died of old age in his 80's 20 years before she was born, or in his 100's after she was born. There's no "supposed to" here, otherwise it would've simply happened.
Korra is basically if someone like Zuko was the Avatar. Aang was the complete opposite: calm and while immature completely connected to his past lives. And because the more physically demanding bending elements came easy to Korra, it makes sense that someone of her temperament couldn't quickly grasp airbending or connecting with the spirits.
I can't believe y'all said Aang was very driven lol homeboy was hopskotching across islands so he wouldn't have to do anything that took work 😅
Aang definitely came off as a procrastinator to me, early on in the show at least.
@withxoutxlife I mean he was a 12 year old boy who's life changed in an instant.
@@zero3644 Yeah, no one's denying that. But pretending like he was a focused individual is just lying. Him being a kid only makes it make sense, but it doesn't change the fact that he was avoiding his responsibilities.
I think they really meant is he had more discipline, usually drive and discipline get mixed up together but their very different.
Girls: "there hasn't really been a water tribe villain."
Hama: "am I a JOKE to you??"
The two bad guys from last season were also water benders lmao.
The creators deliberately crafted korra to be the polar opposite of aang. Where aang was free flowing korra was headstrong and confident. Where aang succeeded in the spiritual side korra has the most difficulty.
!! Exactly just like how Roku struggled with water while Aang excelled at it. People don't understand that its purposefully done
"I guess I'm just so used to people just telling me how to do things that I forgot what it was like to have someone trust in me."
This is precisely the thought process that pushed her to the decisions that she's made so far this season. People don't wanna give her the opportunity to make her own decisions, and in doing so they unintentionally pushed her away.
I agree with this take completely!! Amazing insight
And ironically, much of the fan base was very unwilling to let Korra make mistakes the way they did with Aang.
@@robling1937 yeah exactly and it's so infuriating
@@robling1937 I truly don't get this. When Aang lost Appa, people were so quick to defend Aang and his actions. When Katara told Sokka that he didn't love Kya the way she did, and decided the use bloodbending in a fit rage, people were quick to defend her.
The moment Korra does something? People were so quick to just toss her away. 😂
Korra: What should I do?
Mako: I think you should do whatever you think is right.
Korra: The fuck kind of answer is that?
It still trips me out that JK Simmons plays Master Tenzin…and Omni-Man.
Oh god i never got it
The Northern Chief was always the ruler of the two Water Tribes, but the South had an autonomy that increased after the disconnection between them throughout the war. The incident with the spirits caused the North's desire to reinforce its authority over its southern brothers while trying to help them in its own way.
Eska is voiced by Aubrey Plaza. - THE Aubrey - has no filter - Plaza
Aang wasn't really driven. He actively ran away from being Avatar. The real difference is that Aang was given freedom to explore and had someone who believed in his skills whereas Korra doesn't.
Dhe was forced into solitude, she didn't get to choose her bending Masters or travel the world, and the people who are supposed to be closest to her constantly undermine her for their own reasons. And they won't even tell her what the reasons are.
Even with Mako, the way he interacts with Korra is in his self interest. She vents and he gives an opinion she didn't necessarily ask for. She directly asks him for advice and he side steps. Her dad is an impediment and Mako tries to step in as her dad's proxy when she's making it clear that's not what she needs.
You guys as Eska and Desna is going to be everything 😂
Eh, they were excited about the twins early in Book 2, but it's fairly certain they'll all but forget about them by series' end.
I won't lie.. I never got the hate for this season. The worst thing is Korra not communicating with Mako a bit. Most other things are really well done imo
I feel like most of the hate comes from Korra continually making rash decisions and not listening to the people closest to her. LIke you said, she had terrible communication with Mako, and her father and Tenzen.
True that but it's still very real.
Korra never had a friend, let alone any romatic relationship until this point, she's crealy clueless about how a relationship works.
Now when it comes to Tenzin, Even though she crearly needs airbending training, spirits are kill*ng people and attacking ships, how she as the avatar Will be just like "that doesn't matter, let's go to the tamples and ignore all the damage spirits are making" 💀 it's her job to do something and Tenzin was hiding that from her and just want to take her traveling.
And Tonrak, when korra wanted to listen he wouldn't Say anything. And when he actually spoke it was just to tell her he and Tenzin decided to lock her up without Even telling her why and that he caused damages his people. Tonrak only Warned her not to go to the forest bc it was dangerous for her, and that's it, while Unalaq, the one that Made Tenzin and Tonrak look useless againts the Spirits, the one that is spirit Master and that has a Lot of knowledge about what's going is guiding her. I'd be fooled by him as well, Unalaq it's just so good at manipulating.
But people just see a "rush" korra and completely ignore the backgroun
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Seeing Tarloq as a young General defending his tribe, kinda makes me want to see like 20 year old Sokka leading the southern hunters. Did any of the Waterbenders from the North relocate to help repopulate the South's Waterbenders. Or was Katara the only one for years until her daughter was born?? We know that at least SOME Waterbenders must have moved to help build up Republic City because there are Waterbenders in the Pro league AND Waterbenders on the council AND in the triple Threat Triad Gang - that's the whole identity of their Gang name. triple Threat: Water, Fire and Earth so we know that Some Waterbenders will move around. But seeing Sokka and possible Suki as Generals?? That's dope.
The end of season 1 and the first episode of season 2 of AtLA showed us that Paku and other waterbenders went to the south pole to help support the southern tribe. The comics actually show how the efforts to rebuild the southern water tribe went for Katara and Sokka, I think
Yes, because Paku said they were going to help rebuild. The south so logic would dictate that Northern water tribe.
members decided to move down there to help them repopulate, and to gain some of the culture they lost due to the hundred year war.
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@@JNDReacts Auto correct strikes again. Must have been made at Cabbage Corp.
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Fun fact: Senna is actually a waterbender and a powerful one too, she just never bends on the show
Did the comics ever Show us she water bends
Airbenders in general are very spiritual, especially Aang.
Korra always struggled with spiritual stuff.
Looking forward to your civil wars part 1 and 2 reactions
I don't know how I didn't realize the female twin is voiced by Aubrey Plaza until now
Nice reaction! Glad you're enjoying this season so far!
I call this the lore season.
ugh...
Korra’s dad is the chief of the Southern Water Tribe.
Not until the end of this season.
If korra father was never banished then he wouldn’t have met his wife and have korra who would have never become the avatar
OMG please dress up as Desna and Eska!
Tonraq is not the chieftain. The south has a council and a chieftain but we never meet them.
She's very... BOLD AND BRASH 🤣🦑
Go ahead burn through this season so i can keep watching these😭😭
Aubrey Plaza as eska is the best voice casting in the show. I'll stand alone on that hill idc 🤷♂️
Please dont take the negative comments about this book too seriously! These people seem to have very personal & emotional reactions to the idea that the whole show in general is not for them.
I liked the idea of this show and its characters, they just executed them really poorly and this book especially felt completely out of touch with the nature of Avatar in general.
The entire premise of the big final confrontation though?
The setting was so wonderfully eastern until then.
And the worst part is they could have made that setup eastern as well. It's clearly inspired by eastern concepts. But it has gone the typical superficial interpretation way.
@@august7535 are you saying you didn't like seasons 1,3 or 4 either?
I am the moon slayer 😂
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One thing I've noticed is Korra at this point has a very shallow view of what it means to be the Avatar. Like a child who thinks being a superhero means saving the world from evil. There's so much more to the job and unfortunately she hasn't been talking to the people who know best, her past lives. So instead she's doubles down on the physicallity and is getting equally as shallow and bad 2nd hand advice. This is something she has to feel out for herself. Unfortunately, there's always one facet to The Avatar's personality that is their own worst enemy. I don't dislike Korra as a character, but her brash impulsivity causes way more problems than it solves and in these coming episodes my exhaustion with her reaches it's peak. I wish I could sympathize more with her but I'm about as far removed from Korra in personality as you can get; my brain simply does not run on that wavelength so I cannot relate to her really...🤷♀️
I love you Aubrey Plaza
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Yo Chad, i have a question.
Did the gals watch to Korra season 2 at the same they react to Invincible season 1?
how is Korra an only child i wouldve drained Tonraq everyday
I'm surprised that NO ONE was suspicious that Unalaq ALONE was able to not only predict this would happen but also be the ONLY ONE capable of stopping it. I mean there couldn't BE a louder more attention drawing action as this. Unalaq says he had been warning his brother for a long time. Then this happens and HE alone controls and stops the rampaging spirits. Unalaq alone?????? NO ONE else had ANY spiritual connections????
The moment where Arianna said Korra was exhausting, THAT was honestly my biggest issue with the show.
The shows did a horrible job at explaining that The Northern Water Tribe and Southern Water Tribe are both under the same ruler. The 100 year war severed their connection which is why the south is so different from the north. So basically, the north is not invading BUT definitely imposing power over a group of people who have skewed away from Northern traditions and identity.
This season she is stubborn and brash but l think she grows and changes in the next two seasons especially the last season
Whoa, do you have a dynamic & nuanced view of Korra & this season? Refreshing!
Well you keep talking over the last scene so 🤷🏻♀️
Right?! lol🤷♂🤦♂Don't see that sh*t often. 😂
The sexism and misogyny from Aang fan boys always makes for a great time when watching this show! They can't critique it without defaulting to misogyny, it's actually mind blowing
... it's straight up toxic and i prefer lok over atla ... ( + you sound more sexist but aight )
Only real fanboys appreciate both even if they liked one over the other. The fans of this franchise are supposed to be more welcoming, not toxic like other franchises
@@Depressed_until_dead I'm literally a girl and I prefer lok over atla too but I know that a chunk of criticism that Korra gets would not exist if she was a male avatar. Trash avatar my ass
@@matthaeusperry4319 !
Where's this misogyny? I've seen people love or hate the show or various characters, but haven't seen anyone trashing women just because they're women.
When he says unite the tribes, he doesn't mean to form 1 tribe he is in control of. He just means build good relation with them and make them stronger spiritually.
Sure, if you ignore the times Unalaq refers to himself as “their chief” when talking about the members of the Southern Water Tribe.
You guys gotta double up episodes. You won't finish before February.
they are ahead in patreon
1x the left one for take away pls ☝️😍
"im so used to having people tell me what to do" first episode of the show she hides on a boat and goes to republic city to do whatever the hell she wants.
that's why Maple struggled to explain her character traits, because she is wildly inconsistent. she is whatever the plot demands at that moment
yes but befor that she spent years doing what the white lotes told her to do and stayed in there compoand mastering the first three elaments as far as we know that was her first true act of rebelion agenst the wite lotes and her perants and even then it was because she wanted to learn airbending to becom a full avatar and begin helping people.
@@duncanforder-cross8130 we never see that though. it's just told to us. "show don't tell" is how a show is supposed to work. for the whole first season (starting in the first 5 minutes of episode 1) she does whatever she wants, and then at the start of the second season she tries to say she's only done what other people told her to do.. but we don't really see that. that's weak writing
@@johnnyboro9558 Fair point and i know it's not the same but in atla we dont see the start of the war and are just told about it i always thout of her childhood like that we never see the airtempels being attaked and we don't see her groing up isolated from everyone her age and doing what she is told.
@@duncanforder-cross8130 that's a decent comparison. as you said it's not the same, i think a big difference is if we had an episode showing the start of the war and the destruction of an air temple it wouldn't directly affect our main characters or add to their character. if we got a full episode of say Korra being 12 years old in the white lotus camp, being treated like a weapon or a tool rather than a person- maybe old katara could say aang was only 12 when he traveled the world. she would feel like she is trapped. if we spent some time doing that it would've added a lot to her character and help explain her drive to be independent and to make decisions by/for herself
@@johnnyboro9558 Agreed that would have been helpful to put context on her behavor.
This episode is what made me not like Korra for a while. I remember being drained from watching this episode when it aired. Korra hears her father's story about how he was unfortunately banished from his home and made it about herself & she kept treating Mako poorly when when he is just trying to be supportive & helpful. Sure you can chock it up to her being a teenager & yes behavior like that is very common, but so is catching a cold. They're not not a good. There's no excuse to justify it & she needs to apologize.
She had her reasons and was nowhere near disrespectful.
at least she apologies about the behavior later on, many don't even bother 😂
@@ayoubazahaf1511 She was pretty unfair to Mako, though. He's been nothing but supportive towards her so far in Book 2, yet she tends to exude anger towards him. While I can understand it, she's the Avatar and has a lot on her plate with no real outlet for that frustration, she's taking it out on the person that's trying to emotionally support her the most.
@@Depressed_until_dead tell them! 🤣🤣
If she did not learn from him then she would not have defeated him
Lol. It's both funny and sad that they have so much interest for this season, thinking it will explain the story it's setting up. I hope they can end up enjoying it. It felt like such a disappointment for me.
Maybe this is my rejection of everything religious talking but HOW is that bad?? Would you really allow a vicious brutal enemy to escape JUST BECAUSE there's a religious building in the way. Knowing that if you LET them escape they WILL be back to butcher MORE of your people?? This wasn't an "IF they return" scenario. Tarloq KNEW that they would. By NOT chasing them it would just give them an advantage that they could exploit later on. If you are a terrorist or barbarian and you KNOW your victims WILL NOT attack on holy ground then Holy ground is where you do your vilest actions, because you KNOW there will be no retaliation. There's a line in a movie that I remember hearing (I think it was from Catfish) where someone says: "in order to prevent terrorism we have to make it as unappealing as possible.
Ugh Korra was so goddamn frustrating this episode. I swear it’s all the people that care about her that she treats like shit and it pisses me off.
You know those kinds of people who are left out of the loop about a certain subject and make it seem like EVERYONE was lying to her out of spite??
Let's say for example that you are married and someone you know confides a secret to you. Then later on your spouse finds out and accuses you of lying this whole time for NOT gossiping about that other person. The point is that if that person WANTED your spouse to know THEY would have told them. You CANNOT be pissed at someone for keeping a secret that is by rights NOT their secret to share. Tarloq having been banished has literally NOTHING to do with HER. she quite frankly has NO RIGHT to be informed of that event.
It's like how Papparazzi and reporters used to claim, "The people have a right to know!!" Well no; they don't. It doesn't concern them. tarloq beeing banished doesn't in any way whatsoever change anything in Korra's life. He's still her father, he still loves her and he still has his own personal issues with HIS brother. Knowing any of this would not have changed Korra's life in the slightest. If there were a multiverse in where Korra was aware of what happened, NOTHING would be different. Unaloq would still have showed up, Korra would STILL have gone to learn from him. So her entitled "You should have told me!" is just selfish. She's showing that she really only cares when SHE wants to.
Ah....Okay I'm done now. 'cause I can Hate on Korra all day every day. and despite how it appears, I don't like getting worked up and hating on shit. So Imma go have a Snickers and an Oh Henry and cool off; maybe even a Kit kat....OOOOH some Caramilk chucks Ice cream sound even better. Yep yep.
... get a journal or something idk
I mean, she's the Avatar. She's supposed to be bridge between the human world and the spirit world. If her father is one of the people directly responsible for the spirit attacks happening, then she, as the Avatar, who's job it is to maintain balance and order between the two realms, should know.
Bragging and arrogantly saying she's supposed to be the bridge between spirits and the physical world and she's connected to the spirits a whole ONE Time. This is the arrogance I'm talking about. she's that person who gets TOLD something, never verifies it to be true and then arrogantly defends what she was told as if there could be NO other side.
chief you got problems it aint that deep.
@@RiffRaffish It never is whenever you have an unpopular opinion and try to defend it again assholes saying "you have problems" No one even bothers to discuss it's straight to the insults and personal attacks. then when you defend yourself and show that you WON'T be bullied into submission THEN it's "relax bro it's just a cartoon" Well to hell with all of you for pushing the buttons that get people to lose their shit and then trying to backpedal by saying "relax bro it's not that serious." If it's not that serious then WHY DF are you coming at me in the first place?? Make up your minds. Is it serious enough to attack me and insult or is it NOT?? You can't have both. I won't LET you.
You are entitled to your opinion and it can be frustrating when people attack you for having an unpopular opinion on some form of media. It see it happen all the time online. But going berserk mode in the comments isn't going to make people suddenly agree with you. At the end of the day it's a TV show that people will interpret differently and experience differently. Sorry if you thought I was coming after you but that's what I mean when I say it isn't that deep.
Yeah, we don't agree with you. You don't know these people and nobody will remember this tomorrow, why waste your mental energy on it if it's not an actually real problem. @@patrickcromwell7554
although I agree that Unaloq is a very bland Villain, I 100% agree with his telling Korra that he wan't training her to "fight spirits," but to help her open herself up to her spiritual side. It's THIS mentality more than anything for my Korra-bashing. It's like the writers of THIS series watched an abridged version of Avatar The last Airbender and decided it NEEDED to "be better." Just like how Disney is always "fixing" their classics for modern audiences. But what's worse is that they actually DO understand what bending is supposed to be and just decide that Korra is a super girl-boss so she doesn't need to connect spiritually because she's naturally talented "just because." The line of her utterly ignoring her spiritual side from the pilot episode is so spot on, such a perfect example of WHY Korra is a trash Avatar. she literally believes herself to BE better than everyone. Saying stupid ass things like "Maybe I don't even NEED Airbending, did you ever think of that??" just shows how the writers want Korra to be a bad ass girl boss just because she's a girl.
Just like Aang put off fire bending for the longest time, huh??? Every avatar has their shortcomings and this was Korra's. It's giving misogyny and your reluctance to understand and accept that Korra is a complex character is indicative of that
You can't even see that your whole argument is leaning on misogyny, critique the show all you won't but this line of critique is reductive and misogynist
Her saying was showing casing how frustrated she was with doing being able to get it. It's extremely common for people to lashout like that. Plus she apologizes in that same episode.
Lol looks like you've got some other issues going on.
Lolwut? The writers didn't want Korra to be a badass girl boss "that don't need no airbending."
There's so much to unpack with your comment, I don't even know where to begin. 😂
It really does depend on which thing you watch first. I saw LoK before ATLA, and I found ATLA insanely boring and childish for the first two seasons or so, especially bad in season 1. There was just so much throwaway wasted time, and I had such a hard time connecting to the incongruity of these kids sometimes acting like full ass adults and sometimes acting like kids half their age. Korra was way easier for me to relate to.
So I hear these reactions and read the comments and I'm jut like, Jesus, people remember ATLA with such rose-colored glasses.
Then I remember I had to restart it like six times because I kept falling asleep from boredom and disinterest, to say nothing of the jank ass animation and terrible voice acting. Zuko's voice is still like nails on a chalkboard to me.
Obviously, this is an unpopular opinion. But it just comes down to the second series I watched didn't live up to the shadow of the first series I watched, even with all of its goofiness. Without a point of comparison, I just fell in love with Korra and I felt like her struggles with establishing her identity were so interesting.
Korra's outrage at her father being banished is yet another example of her having been enabled leading to her sense of entitlement. While 50% of the faut for Korra being enabled is NOT hers, the 50% that IS hers is incredibly ridiculous. what I see in Korra is her being utterly humiliated that she CAN'T Airbend right away so she actively overcompensates for it.
She had every right to be upset at her father. I would be just as mad at my dad if I found out he locked up in a compound all my life and lied to me about his past. 100% justified and he admits it himself.
Korra is the outcome of her mentors and environment. Locking her up and not letting her travel the world and learn who she was outside the Avatar stunted her spiritual and emotional growth. Even aang before the war was traveling the world. He had all this freedom and Korra had none. Seeing this whole world unfold before her now and realizing it was hidden from her must have felt like betrayal.
@@Vladoominator He admits it because that's what the writers want. They want you kn Korra's side in every matter. But you saying yo'd be upset if you found out about your parents past that happened before you were even born....well that make you entitled. Thinking you have a RIGHT to know something that has NOTHING to do with you is entitlement. Angry for being sheltered... okay that one gets a TINY LITTLE sympathy, but just a little; did being locked away HARM Korra in any way??? No. Did she STILL learn all the Bending she needed?? YES. Besides the fact that there is a perfectly GOOD reason for keeping her hidden AND for not telling her. Telling her, WOULD have harmed her.
@@patrickcromwell7554 she's the Avatar! It has everything to do with her. She's literally being attacked by spirits that her dad played a part in upsetting. Told her it didn't matter when it obviously mattered a lot.
You're straight up ignoring parts of my comments to make your points. I'm saying locking her up was harmful for her spiritually and emotionally. Just because she still learned all the bending doesn't excuse that. And anything we know of why they did does not exist at this point in the show. And I still don't agree they did the right thing even knowing that.
@@patrickcromwell7554 Korra is the Avatar. If her dad upset the spirits then why would she not be entitled to that information? I'm so confused on how you are justifying this, lol.
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