The Legend of Korra 2x3 "Civil Wars, Part 1" First Time Reaction

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  • @forkxin
    @forkxin Год назад +67

    It's tough to see Aang shown as an imperfect father, but I think it makes a lot of sense. Aang didn't really grow up in a traditional family structure, and while he had Monk Gyatso, he doesn't really have an example to model himself on. Past that, he's also dealing with the fact that he and Tenzin are the only airbenders, and the burden of preservering and restoring an entire culture rests on their shoulders. Aang probably felt closer to Tenzin because of that, and possibly even went out of his way to make special time for him out of concern for the burden he knew Tenzin would face as a result.
    He loved his other kids, and they know that, but he made choices in how to raise them and those choices came with consequences. It doesn't make him a bad person, it doesn't even necessarily mean he was a *bad* father, but he wasn't perfect either.

    • @moneylover318
      @moneylover318 10 месяцев назад +1

      I still say in the end of the season. Tenzin should have took in the whole family. His siblings included to ember island to build sand castles and to kyoshi island to ride elephant koi

  • @tunderdiamant8651
    @tunderdiamant8651 Год назад +137

    I actually always loved that they made Aang a """bad father""" ... I mean they shouldn't make the character be perfect just because everyone loved him from the last show lol that makes him human .... He was the last airbender i feel like it's really normal that he would feel a little closer to tenzin who was an airbender like him..

    • @tiv8115
      @tiv8115 Год назад +60

      i don't even think hes a "bad" father... just not a perfect one. his kids clearly love him and know he loved them, but he did play favorites in his attention, and for understandable reasons. aang was never perfect, and as an adult he wasn't either

    • @redfieldwong717
      @redfieldwong717 Год назад +6

      The whole world is so obsessed with the bad father trope, and I’m sick of it. A father’s job is not to coddle their children.. our job is to get our children ready for the world and if it means that they get hurt along the way so be it

    • @itsjustvin7630
      @itsjustvin7630 Год назад +20

      @@redfieldwong717 but Aang doesnt even have a father as a blueprint

    • @robertombricen7966
      @robertombricen7966 Год назад +9

      You give the vibe of someone OK to beat the crap out of his kids.

    • @itsjustvin7630
      @itsjustvin7630 Год назад +9

      @@robertombricen7966 where'd you get that from their comment?

  • @JNDReacts
    @JNDReacts 9 месяцев назад +3

    13:28 The same way Kya and Tenzin are siblings who bend different elements. They had two parents with different bending ancestry. Also, Katara was born from two non-benders, so it makes sense that two benders could produce a non-bender.

  • @EJReyna94
    @EJReyna94 Год назад +30

    Maple: When was the las time you wrapped yourself like a burrito in a blanket?
    Arianna: Once a day
    that just had me cracking up

  • @davido.1233
    @davido.1233 Год назад +16

    Fun fact: When Mako refers to breakups being like ripping off a blood-sucking leech, he's using an old-world version of ripping off a bandaid, and it had nothing to do with his feelings towards Asami. Humans used leeches in medical practices long before we ever had bandaids. A lot of people misinterpreted that statement when the episode originally aired, so the confusion is nothing new.

  • @patrickcromwell7554
    @patrickcromwell7554 Год назад +10

    Fun Fact: Kya's voice actress is Lisa Edelstein, who has also played Dr. Lisa Cuddy on the TV show: HOUSE.OH and she also had a minor part in the Mel Gibson movie: What Women Want.

  • @TheAbominableDrFaustus
    @TheAbominableDrFaustus Год назад +33

    I love Varrick. He’s not everybody’s cup of tea but he’s my favorite character in this series.

    • @Onaterdem
      @Onaterdem Год назад +6

      There's 2 types of people: Those that love Varrick, and those that hate TLOK

    • @Diegesis
      @Diegesis  Год назад +12

      he's up there for me too. he's genuinely funny and i'm always happy to see him pop up on screen

    • @nathancollins1715
      @nathancollins1715 Год назад +1

      ​@@OnaterdemCan't I be both?

    • @TheAbominableDrFaustus
      @TheAbominableDrFaustus Год назад

      @@nathancollins1715 that’s actually really funny.

    • @cjg8763
      @cjg8763 Год назад +1

      He's definitely my favorite character in this series!

  • @Jeremy_theGent
    @Jeremy_theGent Год назад +52

    Aang being closer to Tenzin than Kya and Bumi is a really divisive topic, but here's my take. I think he just felt closest to Tenzin because he always had this dream of rebuilding the Air Nation, and knew Tenzin would have to shoulder that burden, so he felt he had to spend a lot of time making sure he understood.
    I don't have kids, so I don't know the pressures of being a parent. Just the way I see it, I have no doubt Aang loved all of his children very much. But he had a ton of responsibilities and either didn't have the time or knowledge to make sure they all got the attention they needed.
    He was a flawed parent for sure, but as someone who literally lost a century of his life and was brought up without the experience of his own parents, then thrown into war, then having to help rebuild the entire world after the war, I think he did the best he could under the circumstances.

    • @TheRohanMan
      @TheRohanMan Год назад +14

      It’s not really a controversial topic. The audience has known and since he was a kid so they just assume they know everything about him and that creators adding new information is considered heresy to them.

    • @Jeremy_theGent
      @Jeremy_theGent Год назад +13

      @@TheRohanMan Seriously. I think it's interesting when characters we knew as children turn out less than perfect as adults. It reminds us that they're still humans who make mistakes.

    • @PelafinaLievre
      @PelafinaLievre Год назад +6

      Aang didn’t grow up with a dad in the traditional sense. Makes sense he wouldn’t know how to do it.

    • @JackToeRip
      @JackToeRip Год назад +9

      @@PelafinaLievre Exactly. Air Nomads are communally raised and Aang didn't have the nuclear family as most recognize. The people at the temple were all his family and he was raised by literal Monks. He had to figure out how to be a dad the hard way and it meant he made mistakes with raising his kids, which I think is a very relatable and honest flaw to give to him. Aang was the avatar who saved the world many times over, he was also a dad who struggled learning how to take care of his children.

    • @Onaterdem
      @Onaterdem Год назад +5

      @@JackToeRip 100%, also there's the fact that Aang only knew how Air Nomads were raised. Therefore it's natural that he raises Tenzin properly, but lacks the experience when it comes to Kya and Bumi

  • @iustinmatei5655
    @iustinmatei5655 Год назад +17

    It was explained in the Fortuneteller that you can have a sibling that is not a bender, even if you are a bender. Mako and Bolin can both bend, one fire, one earth because the mother was a fire nation(idk if they mention that she was a bender) and their father was from earth kingdom(again, idk if he was a bender tho).
    And if we go back in the ATLA, Katara is a bender and Sokka isn't one, Hakoda and Kya weren't benders, and neither was Gran-gran.
    So, genetically speaking, they can have non-bender children, even if Aang was an airbender and Katara was a waterbender.
    Edit: And, in episode 1 of season 1, Pema wished that Rohan(while she was still pregnant with him) was a non-bender. "All I want is just one child like me. A nice non bender who doesn't blast wind in my face every 5 seconds"

    • @Fthepatriarchy
      @Fthepatriarchy 9 месяцев назад

      yes! But what I've been wondering. "Technically" did they kill all the air nomads or just all the air nomads? because then two non-benders could have a bender child? Or what if only one non-airbender air nomad left the temples to follow a different path before Zosin happened. wouldn't it be possible for them to have airbender children? Even like 2 generations later? I always wondered but it is said that Aang clearly was the last one? it is said that the airbender gene is very dominant. so maybe you eighter have one and that one can pass it on or if not they can't pass it on?

    • @davidpacheco268
      @davidpacheco268 3 месяца назад

      ​@@Fthepatriarchybecause of how spiritual they were (and we can see that through Aang), the air nomads were the only people who had a population of 100% benders. This may also be because, in the case that they rarely had children with people from other nations, the airbending genes were dominant. Aang's children, because they were half Katara two, had a mix of airbending and waterbending genes, as well as non-bending (which seems to be the norm in every other nation in Avatar's world).
      Harmonic convergence probably brought back the airbenders because the world in general was more spiritual since Korra left the spirit portals open, and those people around the world that happened to have Air Nomad genes manifested airbending

  • @HambyPlaysGames
    @HambyPlaysGames Год назад +9

    With you guys watching Invincible and Korra around the same time, it's WILD that Tenzin is Omni-Man. J K Simmons is amazing.

  • @cloudwatcher608
    @cloudwatcher608 Год назад +5

    2:51 I love the Lilo reference! “If I gave Pudge tuna, I’d be an abomination!”

  • @mitsukitai2713
    @mitsukitai2713 Год назад +10

    Not a spoiler because it's not explained in the show, but will still give a warning
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    Mako and Bolin having different bending is because of their heritage. Their father was from the Earth Kingdom and their mother was from the Fire Nation. There's no confirmation if either parents were benders but as we have seen with Katara, it is possible for non benders to have children who are benders.

  • @Pandaemoni
    @Pandaemoni Год назад +11

    I remember this episode being very divisive. A lot of viewers felt it was disrespecting Aang and suggesting he was a bad parent for favoring Tenzin over Bumi and Kya. I recall myself wondering how hard it was for Aang, as he did not know his own parents. He was raised by monks in an all-male religious temple, and here Aang was in a family with a waterbender for a wife. He had no direct experience with that.

  • @eglantinepapeau1582
    @eglantinepapeau1582 Год назад +5

    action scene = discussion time 😅11:46
    13:21 i think the same way a family of non benders can have a bender child , like Katara . maybe that's why her first son is a non bender ? 💁‍♀I think there's a bender gene and not everyone is born with it , even within the same family . it's like a genetic heirloom ( example : kids who look like their grandparents but not their parents)

  • @Sournote88
    @Sournote88 Год назад +2

    "When was the last time you rolled yourself like a burrito?"
    "Once a day"

  • @kelonpie
    @kelonpie Год назад +27

    Fun fact: Senna is a very powerful Waterbender. She doesn't showcase her bending in the comic and show but she can fight. Also.... With her dad being in the Royal Family from the North Pole, she technically related to princess Yue and a princess herself

  • @caitlinbrooks1085
    @caitlinbrooks1085 Год назад +4

    Maple did eskas laugh perfectly

  • @MaafaxKelen
    @MaafaxKelen Год назад +7

    This is sooo complicated.
    Compared to that, Aang had a pretty straight forward quest to unified the world : the fire nation attacked and restoring balance implied defeating it. But with Korra, everything is political. Benders/Non-benders, Geographic disconnexion implying cultural allegeance to different concept (traditions vs modernity) and binding together new allies and foes.
    In ATLA, everything is pretty white/black with a short spectrum of grey. Every camp as treators or greed for power, but at the end, they all please an allegiance to something that can be fought. They assemble in camp.
    In LOK, they all put their differences in front of them, and that create WAY more camp. In consequences, the Avatar has to balance way more point. And I'm questionning the "element + spirit balance" and how much Kora as to imply herself in politic. How did Kyoshi and Roku did ?
    (sorry for english)

  • @AhsimNreiziev
    @AhsimNreiziev Год назад +4

    I just recently watched your reaction to _Endgame_ (LoK Book 1 finale, not the Marvel movie) the other day, and you were wondering how they're going to tie in the conflicts to each other if they have a new villain each Season/Book. I won't go into real Spoilers, so I won't give you the full answer, but part of the answer is that each Book of _The Legend of Korra_ has not 1, but actually *_//2//_* villains. A "primary" one and a "secondary" one, but both absolutely integral to the central conflict of the Season/Book. And always, the 2 villains of the Book are diametrically opposed to each other in terms of ideals and ideology. For Book 1, the 2 central villains were Amon/Noatak ("primary" villain, completely anti-Bender) and Tarrlok ("secondary" villain, completely anti-non-Bender and very much pro-Benders). It very well may be true that the "primary" villain of Book 2 of _The Legend of Korra_ is the weakest of the 4 "primary" villains of TLoK; and also almost certainly weaker than any of the major villains of A:TLA (those would be Zuko, Zhao, Azula, Long Fen, and Ozai) -- although of course I will leave that up to you to decide -- but the "secondary" villain of Book 2 is one of the best villains, and I would even go as far as to say is one of the best Characters period, of the entire Franchise (as in: including the original _Avatar: The Last Airbender_ ).
    Also, regarding especially Episode 2 of this Book, I think it is important to remember that Korra was locked inside a single compound from when she was about 5 until she was 16, never having been allowed further than a very short distance outside to give Naga some exercise. As such, the idea of constantly having all the attention of her elders thrust upon her, of having her freedom of movement taken from her, of being only surrounded by teachers instead of by her peers, of only being able to train instead of just..... being Korra -- those things not only scare her more than almost anything else ever could (though you will also see what could scare her even more than that), but it is anathema to who she is and who she wants to be. So she will always reject that prospect -- and, frankly, she has every right to.
    Finally, I want to mention a few things about Aang not being the best father to Bumi and Kya. It pays to remember that Aang went through a trauma almost unimaginable to us, namely that his entire People got destroyed. And he learned of being the last Airbender at the age of *_only 12_* . That's a level of trauma that would destroy most people. To me at least, it is frankly incredibly, almost superhumanly, impressive that Aang was able to go on at all after that. But, it is also important to remember that trauma does not rational people make. I myself suffer from trauma, though nowhere near on the level of Aang's, and I can tell you right now that when the trauma hits me, a great big portion of my reason leaves me, not to return until the traumatic episode passes (in those cases where it passes at all). So that Aang, after Tenzin was born, after Aang finally knew that the Air Nomad culture wouldn't end with him, spent most of his energy on passing on that culture to the only other person now alive who could truly understand -- that isn't pretty; but I do think we can forgive Aang for that having happened. And forgive the writers for portraying Trauma in a realistic way like that.

  • @mhernandez1345
    @mhernandez1345 Год назад +2

    Idk if anyone has mentioned it, but Tenzin & Omni-Man are both voiced by J.K. Simmons

  • @yannym4605
    @yannym4605 Год назад +3

    You already know this cause you're ahead, but he said he wasn't going to teach her how to fight the spirits because he doesn't fight them, he pacifies them.

  • @scotiej
    @scotiej Год назад +4

    The theories that both ladies have been coming up haven't been far fetched at all and in several cases have been dead on correct. Nothing wrong at all with trying to figure out the plot, fans have been doing that with shows for decades.

    • @Diegesis
      @Diegesis  Год назад +1

      i think it's the most fun part of going through a series. that water cooler talk.

  • @Deined
    @Deined 10 месяцев назад

    17:00
    😏
    Also, glad you girls are already liking Varrick and interesting that you're already rolling your eyes at Korra's petulance in diplomatic situations.

  • @KiraVexing
    @KiraVexing Год назад +5

    I think Korra makes sense as a teenager in difficult, nuanced situations.

  • @patrickcromwell7554
    @patrickcromwell7554 Год назад +2

    You gotta at least appreciate that Bumi still has dark hair, while his YOUNGER sister is as grey as their mother. lol I mean there's still a grey-ish quality to Bumi's hair but it's still very dark with more brown than white-ish grey.

  • @AznJungleFever
    @AznJungleFever Год назад +2

    He's EVIL !!!! 😂😂😂 *mermaid man voice*

  • @maggie4028
    @maggie4028 Год назад +2

    I love this show so much and it makes me so happy to see that you guys are liking it too and how you really pay attention to the story-lines and the character development!

  • @Seetiyan
    @Seetiyan Год назад

    3:30 Is he fighting fire with fire, or is he fighting water with water? 😏

  • @colin4836
    @colin4836 11 месяцев назад

    Me. A Colin. Everytime Arianna brings up that meme 😭😭

  • @Stick-a-fork-in-Gmorks-tort
    @Stick-a-fork-in-Gmorks-tort Год назад +2

    I would have enjoyed an episode of that shark-squid being taken down. Oh, well!

  • @ButtonsandBookends
    @ButtonsandBookends Год назад

    I love your theory crafting!

  • @mmxxiii9503
    @mmxxiii9503 Год назад

    On this book we see a lot of Korra's stubbornes, but at least it has a.... purpose?
    07:33 that is the opinion of many fans in fact, tbh Mako was way better with Asami
    20:22 ehhh I have a lot of questions with that one....like why?

  • @cjg8763
    @cjg8763 Год назад

    It's interesting how they showed that Aang was not a perfect father. He does definitely seem to show favoritism towards his airbending child, but I have some headcanon on what is going on here.
    Aang knew that he had to teach Tenzin everything he knew about airbending practice and culture. We find out (very minor spoiler here that doesn't pertain to any plots) that at the very least Kya finds air nomad history to be a giant bore, and I'm pretty sure it is implied that Bumi feels the same way. Any time Aang took Tenzin with him to learn, they may have been invited along but chose not to because it was boring. Also, Kya was probably doing a lot of work on water bending with her mother. (Poor Bumi, he didn't get to bond with either of his parents over bending like Kya and Bumi did).
    SO, I believe Aang and Tenzin set on out these trips to learn, but we all know Aang and how he is, how he can be serious while also loving to have fun. These trips for learning undoubtedly had pit stops along the way just to have some fun because why not.
    Now, it would have been nice if Aang had taken his entire family along for some adventures of just good old family fun without it being a mere side trip / break from air nomad education, and then Kya and Bumi may not feel the way that they do now. It's truly too bad that never happened, but when they talk about those fun trips, I believe in my head that it went down exactly as I described above.

  • @avg8922
    @avg8922 10 месяцев назад

    its not a surprise Ang and Katara had a no bender son, remember Soka and his parents werent benders either.

  • @ernestorodriguez791
    @ernestorodriguez791 Год назад +2

    👍🏾

  • @CaesiusX
    @CaesiusX Год назад

    17:12 I know it can be difficult to ignore such criticism. Just remember they didn't have this knowledge when they first watched. They seem to act like they got it all the first time around, _but that wasn't the case._ They were just as ignorant upon their first viewing.
    And if someone is annoyed at your predictions and guesses, then _definitely_ ignore them. We all have nutty guesses while watching. But as a reaction channel, you don't have the luxury to keep them all inside.

    • @mmxxiii9503
      @mmxxiii9503 Год назад +1

      Maple was pretty close with her guess

  • @jamesmeechan6983
    @jamesmeechan6983 Год назад

    He has taught her to do that it she will learn her self

  • @JoshV_TX
    @JoshV_TX Год назад +1

    Getting mad at reactors for theorizing is hilariously idiotic, especially when you probably watched that show 5 times over. Theorizing and guessing is fun when watching a show and there’s a 99 percent chance that you were doing the same on your first watch.

  • @JaimeAGB-pt4xl
    @JaimeAGB-pt4xl Год назад

    I like hoy they are not even half way through the show, and they already identify and point to Korra's problems as a character, and sadly these do not change throughout the show.... I still enjoy it, and it is a worthy successor to ATLA, but its definately inferior and the best part of this is the Villains .... Hope U girls continue to enjoy it

  • @kiplutu
    @kiplutu Год назад

    🎉🎉

  • @kevinchhom9739
    @kevinchhom9739 Год назад +2

    TLOK itself was decent, it was just hard dealing with Korra's teen angst

  • @yiannis5972
    @yiannis5972 Год назад

    I really dislike how they decided to make Ang into a negligent father . I think it's small choices like his that made people prefer the original series over the second . Well that and the never ending love triangle drama of the first season

    • @lucidiously
      @lucidiously Год назад +2

      I like it, I think it's realistic and makes him more human. Aang was the avatar and the last airbender, it's understandable that because of his duties he would focus more on his airbender child.
      And I think it's important to note that just as Tenzin only thought of the good times, Kya and Bumi were focused more on the bad. All of their perspectives are somewhat skewed, and they end up acknowledging that.

    • @Deined
      @Deined 10 месяцев назад

      Heh, so you just want Aang to be perfect?😄 That's the very definition of a Gary Stu.

  • @RapThirst13
    @RapThirst13 Год назад

    If the villains piss you off then they're are perfectly written imo. Whereas korra..... yeah lol im sorry I love the series but not her cuz zero development lmao

    • @ricardosierra4601
      @ricardosierra4601 11 месяцев назад

      Wow, did u just say You love the series but said korra had Zero development? 💀 If u mean up to this point of book 2 sure, there was kidna of a reset sadly, but from mid book 2 the development just goes on and on

    • @RapThirst13
      @RapThirst13 11 месяцев назад

      @ricardosierra4601 Honestly, she should've lost in book 1, but plot armor gave her air bending. She literally gets safe by plot armor. She's goku but worse. She literally messes up so much in each book its kinda ridiculous. I feel like they should've made her more badass and less... emotional? Idk I don't remember much besides her fucks up so lol

    • @ricardosierra4601
      @ricardosierra4601 11 месяцев назад +1

      Plot armour would be if she'd gotten air with no background at all.
      An example of plot armour if the lion turtle, a creature never mentioned before that gave aang an ability never mentioned before 5 minutes before the final fight.
      When korra, her airbending training was addressed since ep 1 and multiple times throughout the season, and they Even let us know she kept practicing behind camera. Example of that is when bolin was missing and mako got to air temple island she was indeed training.
      And don't get me wrong, i'm not saying Korra's decisions didn't have consequences bc they definitely did, but there is so much background as why she is the way she is and why she took those decisions but the only thing people Focus on and remember using your own words is "korra messed up", ignoring absolutely everything else.
      Glad to see You're watching these reactions so that You pay more attention to the details and the girls input.

    • @RapThirst13
      @RapThirst13 11 месяцев назад

      @ricardosierra4601 Of course, this is exactly why I watch reactions to see things with fresh eyes. Obviously, when it first aired, I compared her to aang, and im sure others did as well, which is why I hated her. lol watching others watch this is like getting more information and insight without being biased. Im just sad they cut out the yuri kissing scene at the end :p

  • @cattievogelsong96
    @cattievogelsong96 Год назад +1

    Season two gets a lot of flack. And it is deserved as the season falls apart. But the civil war story is excellent.
    The first time i watched season two i was gripped! Mild spoiler.
    Until we got to the God and Saten story. Completely breakdown if eastern religion to have objective good and evil show up.

  • @Endorphinooos
    @Endorphinooos Год назад

    This episode is problematic. Korra is way to dumb/naive. A nobody could go with an invasion…not the avatar…

  • @alexlandsbergs
    @alexlandsbergs Год назад +1

    why are you questioning bumi not being a bender, but never questioned it in the last airbender when sokka wasnt a water bender. not everyone is born a bender. thought it was obvious....