One trick that isn't commonly mentioned but I learned by watching videos was when you have a list of check boxes, like the snap options, you can right click on one of them and it will select that one and de-select all the others. It's a super fast way to get only what you need for your command. If you right click again, it will go back to your previous selections. This is also really useful in the "setpt" command as I often only want to go in one direction.
Protip: • in options set the middle mouse button to zoom selected (ZS). • set an alius or keyboard shortcut for the command !_cplane _o to quickly change /set construction planes. !_cplane _w _t resets the construction plane to default. • Holding ctrl+shift when orbiting (right click and mouse move) will snap the camera to ortho views (top, right, left, front, back) • tapping tab whilst drawing a line or moving an object will constrain the direction. • Whilst the gumball is active on an object clicking on one of the scale boxes opposite to the coloured arrow will give you a prompt to input a scale factor, if you put -1 it will mirror the object on that axis. • To get the boundary of multiple shapes, instead of trimming each individual shape and joining, use curveboolean then hit 'a' for all ( or set an alius for it ) make sure delete existing is checked.
Great software overview! I've been a using Rhino since 2002 (version 3) and have not looked back. I originally purchased it because I felt many of the CAD programs offered (at that time) fell way short in their ability to develop organic surfaces. Today, I use Rhino as front end tool for Creo, but it is my ultimate choice for reverse engineering work. It's definitely not a full fledged parametric tool or even a collaborative CAD tool, but it gets the job done and well worth the money paid for a perpetual license.
I’m a designer who has used rhino a lot in the past but I’ve been more on the strategy side for the past 12 years. Getting back into making objects now, mostly in my free time. It’s been awkward, but This has been such a good tutorial. Thank you so much.
Great content! Thanks a lot. For me, trying Rhino after working for years in 3ds max, was super useful. As for Gumball transforms, its position and orientation can be easily adjusted with Ctrl. And reset with RMB menu on Gumball button.
Very nice intro video for Rhino. Have been using Rhino(and Grasshopper), Solidworks, and Maya since the early 90's here. For people asking about Rhino's parametric capability and fit for mechanical design and the people responding with Grahssopper offering parametric aspect... CAD parametric and Grasshopper parametric are two different types. CAD parametric capabilities are about being able to create the body case of an electronic product, shell out the internal cavity, and create all the internal electronics and mechanical components referencing the outer body, and after finishing the entire product, change any of the width/height/wall thicknesses, etc., and have the entire assembly of the components receive the trickling updates. Rhino, even with Grasshopper, cannot do that. It will not update the associated parts and components, and they will need to be recreated. Also, mechanical designs such as robotic arms cannot be really controlled and posed with Rhino in a reasonably productive way, as Rhino does not keep XYZ pivot information nor has a way of creating and managing a hierarchy of the XYZ nodes. Those are all best handled with trie CAD software applications or 3D modeling & animation applications such as Maya. On the other hand, modeling organic human-made products like ergonomic handles of kitchen tools, jewelry, and architecture concepts of the likeness of Zaha Hadid are a pure pleasure to create using Rhino, especially at that price point. Hope it helps some of you.
Rhino kicks butt , command line and rhinoscripts are so powerful , when you don't need parametric controls rhino is such a rapid modeller. When you are familiar with autocad rhino feels very friendly , nurbs can handle larger models then other software , which is great for reverse engineering from step files etc Tip - dragging the command line down to the bottom matches autocad and is also less mouse travel and more speed
Great video!. Record history is a lot more powerful than you think, pretty much 80% of all rhino commands are supported by it. You could sweep a profile on a rail, then edit the rail with the sweep updating in real time! Super useful when editing complex forms without having to type out the commands again and again. It doesnt work with boolean, chamfer and fillet tools but other than that its great
So, it's a sort of parametric functionality. Fantastic! I guess I should practice more with it. I've only ever used it to make symmetrical objects. Apparently I need to take my own medicine and familiarize myself with the layout some more. :)
Great features...but moving over from inventor...which simply cant do the things I need, which I thought were basic, I do REALLY miss constraints..the tangent issue etc is managed so elegantly. My biggest struggle is the lack of parametric/associative tools. Im looking at record history but aaahhh so many pros/cons to each
@@njelbe Not sure what you mean...grasshopper is pretty much what I primarily use...you have to know Rhino before using it though...but grasshopper not a dynamic parametric driver...its formulaic/interpretive so its def not the same thing
super awesome video. I'm just starting Rhino and I was so surprised to see your familiar face on a Rhino tutorial. Well done, you should consider making a series of these.
Excellent video, thank you! This video contains one of the most accurate comments that's overlooked in others... That many people who prefer one CAD tool over another -- these are not typically objective comparisons and in many cases they are based on what someone knows, or the first workflow that someone learned. For example, if someone spent 20 years in 2D CAD, they'll think quite a bit different than someone who started in a tool like SketchUp.
Fun video, I've been learning grasshopper, but I don't really know rhino, so I've been banging my head against a wall trying to do some of the simplest things. If you haven't done much in grasshopper, it's a really powerful tool for 3d automation and certain kinds of designs.
Its really easy to learn rhino, i learned rhino in 10 months. I know most of the advance stuffs in rhino. I just wanna know why are you learning grasshopper?
@@samim.Ali. I know solidworks really well, so for simple/regular parts, I just use that. (no point in learning regular Rhino for me) Grasshopper lets you do some types of design that regular rhino or solidworks couldn't do. Like algorithmic facades, complex patterning, randomization of details, etc.
@@samim.Ali. I found it pretty tricky, its more like coding. You have to be very explicit about selecting faces, etc. Some of the simplest tasks in a solid modeler require many steps in grasshopper. But it is really powerful for specific things.
Adore Rhino, have been using it since it was a freebie demo disc on Computer Arts magazine! Hints, keep the Osnap Near OFF, unless you REALLY REALLY need it! It can cause really frustrating issues where you think you have snapped to some end or corner, and it hasn't quite... Also, disable Apparent Intersection in the Options, as it will trim and split stuff just exactly, precisely where you have no idea where it is... It has its uses, but for most work, it is much more likely to give you trouble further down the line. Great vid, will point my pupils to it!!
i was taught autocad early in my career. Rhino has been an easy transition fo rme due to that common ecosystem of commands. i like rhino these days. I still find 2d drawing to be easier in autocad. but i cant be bothered to do 3d in autocad and have since moved 100% to rhino for both 2d and 3d. very versatile for the money.
16:56 Pre-Clicking or not on the object, it doesn't matter. You don't have to click on the Command Prompt either, nor using your right hand to type SCA, which are all at the left side of your keyboard. Just type it, press Spacebar, Enter or RMB (Right Mouse Button) are all used as enter in Rhino. I'm using S1 for Sweep1, S2 for Sweep2. I would maybe put SC1 as an alias and do it with my left hand super fast. SC1+Spacebar. Nice video, highlighting your workflow. There's always room for improvement. I'm using Rhino since V1.1 and still learning new things, optimizing my workflow from time to time.
Nice, informative episode. As a person that has mostly used Solidworks, Rhino makes me both interested try it, and also scares me by how different it works.
Not sure if it would be seen as underselling your profession, but I think a series of videos highlighting different techniques industrial designers use to make consumer friendly/appealing products would be really interesting. Things like showing class A surfaces in person, and maybe showing the evolution of a product over the years to more "rounded" shapes. This could be either through fake product development or case study analysis. Either way, good work on the video, after learning NX's surfacing suite I've been considering rhino
dude, i have to add, i worked at a firm that would laugh cause I hated using right handed autocad key commands. often times mouse clicks were faster but they thought memorizing modern key commands (despite auto-generated prompts) showed expertise... given that we often work between multiple UI situations, i found that it was best to only memorize the key commands that came naturally, or the ones that I discovered after using the same function over and over... jeeze i hope i can rhino af in my new jobber
Now this is a solid video, which is strange as it’s all about surfaces, 😂😂 But at 9:08, I think most gamers don’t instinctively rest their hand on home row, as no game uses home row to play, but instead usually play with WASD.... very small thing but it was fun to hear and everything else to me is new stuff, so thanks!!
Lol one of the most amazing videos on your channel thank you so much for explaining this. It has basically totally sold me on rhino the command and keyboard system. Which is to say i'm completely hacked off now because being on linux im pretty much screwed when it comes to CAD. Rhino is mac too which makes me sorta half hope they have a semi multi platform codebase going on there behind the scenes. But realistically you just learn not to expect there will ever be a linux version. Which totally bums me out just like for all the other cad programs. And we always hope that 'heh eventually freecad might adopt a similar command system' and get a similar workflow one day. But freecad development goes back so long its got all sorts of weird crap buried deep within it. Which is as you know with software often leads to complications that become a law unto themselves. So i am totally boned here. I can 'man up' and stop grumbling. And try to hardass myself to learn freecad. But its not going to be that super efficiet productive workflow. Then overall it becomes less maintenance overhead to create a windows VM. Even doing gpu passthru too despite that being a pain is still easier than dealing with freecad forever i guess. If you see where im coming from here. What about you DPT ? Personally i think you have a great opportunity here to ask Rhino software to do some type of a Rhino giveaway. And help to promote Rhino further with your channel. It would be most welcome i think given that not enough people get to know about Rhino compared to the other cad softwares. And a giveaway type promotion or other offer would also help a person who wants to buy rhino but cannot afford the $1000 asking price. At least not all upfront anyway. I'm not saying it is not totally worth the money. Just harder to cobble together that much in 1 go. So you are basically given 90 days to 'go all in' and try to learn as much of rhino as possible. Before finally pulling the trigger? I guess maybe they might have educational or institutional licensing offers available. Just did not bother to check myself being just a hobbyist. Anyhow really good! You totally succeeded in showing why Rhino is worth looking at. And didnt ramble or anything! it was all really concise and well put together, of a very high quality. Really appreciated it.
Great overview. just a minor point, you should never have to click on the command input, when you start typing it will receive it by default. Thanks for sharing your experience
It is always interesting seeing someone good at a program. Interestingly I find Fusion 360 easier for me to understand coming from a CAD background rather than a surface background. But given how much time I have invested in that program, their licensing model scares me where Rhino looks like a program you can buy rather than borrow. I hate anything as a service model.
I"m a fusion 360 refuge, I have about a hundred files that i can't even 3d print anymore. Ok, so i lied about being a student but they didn't ask for any proof either. Now they want the proof! You can't save or select objects to print, its like they are targeting the maker community.
originally I was looking at Fusion 360 but the same thing scared me to learn rhino instead. Lets hope they don't change their licensing model in upcoming versions
Totally agree with u. Rhino is d best flexible very handy CAD tool spanning from jewelry, product, furniture, interiors, architecture or actually CNC and 3D printing. After Autocad, studiomax, sketchup, etc. I´ve decided to get into Rhino and now I really want ot master it (and don´t wanna spend time with others). Could you suggest where to learn it properly? RUclips channels (a part your one of course), blogs, books... Many thanks
Having been educated in Autodesk Inventor, and now using Fusion 360, I gotta say that I wish I had learnt about Rhino earlier. Seems to match how I think about 3D modeling a lot closer to the program, inventor/fusion require a different type of thinking, so now I gotta try it out and see if it works better for me
thanks for the vid. IDo you think rhino is an alternative for fusion for mechanical design? Im a student so their discount is extremely affordable and I like how they actually give out perpetual licenses. Also dont want to put hundreds of hours into a program where they can insta change the license structure.... Grasshoper also looks extremely cool. Im mainly interested in designing chemisry lab grear (cases for glass holders things like this).I get that it would be more difficult but is it a mehhh that i get time with the program or is it better to learn there and come back to rhino when I want to start dealing with more complicated curvey things?
Awesome recommendation. I've been using Gimp for image editing for years and the menu layout looks very similar to this. Will definitely be my application of choice for any future designing I attempt.
i have to used rhino cad regularly but im not a designer of any kind. i use it to look at completed designs so i can put the part together. do you have any videos showing useful tips on how to navigate the many options in taking apart and seeing the insides of a complex part?
great video! Whats the command for zooming in on an object. Also if I know a command, but dont know where to find it in the icons, to get it in my middle mouseclick bar, how do I find it?
I'm curious to know if there is a workflow from Rhino that will do cnc machine toolpaths. Fusion does this very well for my purposes. The functionality doesn't have to be part of Rhino. I'd be fine with another program and even more fine if it was free.
I covered one such workflow in this video ruclips.net/video/EaGFQ7M04Wo/видео.html Spoiler: RhinoCAM works great, but lacks "adaptive" toolpaths at this time.
You make a compelling argument. I’m so stuck in fusion. Fusion has lots of drawbacks. It’s very very heavy on the computer and can be clunky. Rhino conversely is very light. There’s trad offs to both
yeah i finally got fusion360 to launch under WINE in linux. And it is a real resource hog. Can barely do anything in it. So if rhino is so lightweight... then maybe it is worth trying under WINE. Might not be so terrible... just dont want to blow my 90 days free evaluation period and then become stuck after it expires. That is actually the only thing stopping me here from trying out rhino yet.
Noobie here. At about 3:50 he is able to select the single point to move it about. How is this done? Also, when I hit f10 it only shows 3 points on my box. On other objects however it seems to work.
With the shape exploded so that it is just six surfaces I selected them all then hit f10. Then I as you can watch, I selected that corner by drawing a box around it. After that I held down the control button and drew a box around the rest of the shape except the corner. The reason for this is because selecting the corner by drawing a box also selects the edges. You need to deselect the edges. So all you have isolated is the control points at the corner. Holding down shift adds more elements to your selection, holding down control, removes those elements from your selection.
Hello, I have a question that I would like to answer please, does rhino7 have the feature of collecting pieces like other engineering programs solidwirk, ptc creo and catia
When I select curve it either lays on the x or stands on the y axis. It’s not until I press shift that I can move it around. Do you know which setting to change to have the first point of the curve be placed anywhere freely ?
Depending on the viewport Top, Right, Front etc. it will place the points of the curve on the construction plane AKA the CPlane. For the Perspective view the Cplane is the XY plane. To change the Cplane click on the "CPlanes" tab right beneath the "Command:" box I use "Set Cplane by 3 points" almost exclusively for this task. When you are done, you reset to default Cplane settings by clicking on "Set Cplane World Top." (Note that if you hover over each of the buttons a box describing the command will pop up.) I rarely change Cplane, but when I need to, it is indispensable. Typically, I place points on the XY plane and then move them in the vertical direction using the Move command then selecting the "Vertical" sub-function. Alternately, if you are sort of free-handing the drawing you can just hold down the Ctrl button as you drag the point. It will only move in the vertical direction.
I know it’s possible to make functional parts in Rhino because I’ve seen your videos but I wonder how the design process works in the absence of parametric controls. I am also curious how Rhino handles assemblies and reusing components or parts.
What I want to understand about Rhino is why does it auto-fill inappropriate commands as I start typing commands? I'm expecting it to behave like AutoCAD, where the simplest commands are first...like "L" is always line, "C" is always circle. But in Rhino, "C" is "SelCrossing", whatever that is. I always expect "ext" to be "extend", but Rhino alwaus jumps to "extrudeCRV". So I smash ESC a few times and type "exte". The first command Rhino selects seems to change with use, and it has changed mid session to much consternation! I suppose it's a "feature", since I haven't found any way to change this behavior...
Yeah. I've experience this too. I just set shortcuts so that I can determine what command will populate with the "auto-fill." You should file a bug report.
Great presentation, if it's ok to ask you, sewing workshop, 1: 6 sec, what is it? I am in the business of upholstering yachts, I see something similar :) Greetings from Sweden
Hi. No men watch sewing tutorials. Even manly sewing like upholstery or bags gets no views from my audience which is 99% male. You are a rare person to ask for such a thing. Best of luck with your entrepreneurial endeavor.
Great video! My background is metal fabrication. Can this program help pull dimensions from a structure that is twisted? Current modelling software I use (shapr3d) can't give me these properties. Only gives me dimensions in a flat plane. Hope you can help.
In many programs, there should be a way to extract a cord through the surface. Then measure the length of that cord. I can think of at least three ways to accomplish this task in Rhino.
@Design Prototype Test thank you but I'm a novice when I comes to rhino or fusion 360. I've onlyed on Sketchup Pro and Shapr3D. Neither to my knowledge can pull that data.
If you are engaged in classic sheet metal fabrication and aren't doing anything experimental there are specific programs which would serve you best. I am most familiar with the Sheet-metal plugin for SolidWorks, but I know there are other industry specific tools like that. If you are doing artistic and experimental things Rhino is the program you should choose. There isn't a problem I've seen which it can't solve in some way. It's very intuitive and straight to the goal kind of interface vs the "parametric modelers" and for these reasons it is my favorite. YMMV
Thanks for the reply. For example I am trying to created a table leg. Made from an 8 sided polygon. That is tapered and twisted 45 degrees at the top. And for the life me I can't pull the cords off.😡
Easily. I do it all the time. I download existing geometry from McmasterCarr. Then use the BooleanUnion command or to integrate these standard threads into my part. It's a very fast process. Hint: Nuts and Bolts have different threads for tolerance. Use "coupler" nuts from Mcmaster when building longer thread sections on deeper holes. It's my understanding that many expert level CAD operators use this hack no matter what program they use for drawing. It ensures that you will get it right. Whereas even if using a thread making wizard or plugin it's pretty easy to get it wrong.
Amazing software, it looks a lot like AutoCAD, and now I get why, but it seems better suited to 3D modeling. Since I already use AutoCAD I am interested on it, but how does it handle parametric changes? The only thing I don't like is that if you make a mistake you pretty much have to go back, change what you have to, and start from that and make all the other things you did to the model again... Changing a parameter somewhere would make me save a lot of time in certain situations, and it's the only feature that would convince me to jump to another platform (I have been using professionally AutoCAD for 12 years, and some more at school, even if just for 2D, so the curve for going 3D has been much quicker than learning a whole new software).
Yes, definitely. The niches where Rhino has dominance are Jewelry design, Automotive body design, and Naval architecture. You'll notice these disciplines all have "flowing" forms in common. Some call it surfacing work. If you want to make furniture like Sam Maloof Rhino is a total winner. Let's simplify the world and say that there is a two dimensional spectrum between Fusion360 and Blender. Rhino is positioned at the middle of this spectrum. It combines the Engineering with the artistic.
Great video! So how do you make specifically sized parts? How do they scale if you need to resize? Unfortunately, I got a 3D printer for fun and to save money by fixing/improving some things around the house, not to make money with. If I were going to spend $1k, I could just buy the solutions instead of make them. I can see trying it out if I had a business to recoup the investment, but it’s just too much money to spend on a hobby... :(
If it's functional parts, then try openscad - not much mouse movement needed, very quickly you can write code, print, go back and adjust design, etc. Freeecad does not flow nice for me.
Damn I didn't know about Rino until last night when someone showcased a BBQ they made up on a FB laser cutting/engraving group. Can you do a prefix ' before each command like in AutoCAD? Ie.. if you do LINE.. then type 'osnap you bring up the object snap properties, and shift right click to bring up osnap attribs
It's similar command line behavior to Autocad. If I type "li" there is an automatically generated list of commands including "line" and other things like "selline" which selects all lines in the drawing. After I type the whole word "line" or select it from the list, I am given a bunch of options also in the command line. For instance, I can navigate Line>Tangent>2Curves which will draw a line tangent to both the curves I select.
@@DesignPrototypeTest Nice. I used to use ACADR11 in school, and at that time had a copy of ACADR12, so I'm 100% comfortable with that workflow. It's great to know there's a 3D program that is based on using CLI
I've been using Rhino for years. I'm not even halfway through your video and already learned a few things. Cap??? The time I wasted doing those manually.. yikes. Thanks!
i'm joining forces with my cousin designing jewelry only i am exceedingly artistic but CAD stupid; bottom line i'll be training with him in january so until then wanted to practice so i downloaded rhino 7 90-day trial software and i'm stuck at the beginning where the top/front/right/ perspective views aren't in a grid view but all black so i can't even see what i'm doing lol again super artistic on paper but straight up CAD STUPID-- help!?
Double click on the view name. Causes it to expand full screen. Right click and drag changes perspective. It rotates the view around if you are in 3D space. There must be a beginner's guide to rhino hero on RUclips. Best of luck!
They don't support Linux. That means I have to deal with Windows or Mac first, then Rhino7...Happy to pay, but not if i have to swap OS of choice of 20 years. Thanks for the info though.
@@TheRybka30 yeah sure. However Freecad seems really esoteric though if it had a command console like rhino it too would then be possible to have a much more effecient streamlined and fast workflow. NOT like all the freecad tutorials i have been watching though. Which is to say not that it cant be done. Just dont expect miracles. I really am not seeing it yet. The vibe i am getting from freecad every time i open it... is nowhere near as user friendly. Its Fing scary for a beginner like me. It just seems overall easier to setup gpu passthu VMs (which is painful, but just maybe less painful than learning freecad). Then install a copy of rhino. If you see the crazy and desperate kind of a decision tree we are having to be dealing with here on linux. haha i'm sure you get me :)
There is a new option in the parametric CAD space. It is not as polished but it rapidly improving and is completely cross platform. The CAD application is part of the Autodrop3d cloud but it has the source code for the CAD portion available under the AGPL3 licence and allows you to export from the cloud environment preventing you from being stung by a hard link to a particular cloud platform. Runs on and device that has google chrome, Microsoft edge or Mozilla fire fox. www.autodrop3d.com/parametric-cad1.html
Basically you have a problem with the control points on your curve. If your line geometry is not critical then before you extrude you can try "Remove MultiKnot" or "SimplifyCRV" to clean up the control points on your curve before you extrude. This is only an initial pointer into a very complex subject. Basically curves are the foundation of surfacing. Working with clean curves is paramount.
@@DesignPrototypeTest I mean just like SketchUp has clean edges when we extrude any face but rhino always shows the middle line between that faces, I mean it shows + in every face and the geometry simply is not looking good, however it creates no issue but looks very meshy.
OH! you just need to turn off isocurve display. I have those turned off for the "Shaded" view but keep them on for "Ghosted" view. At the top menu start by clicking on Tools>Options Then on the pop-up scroll to the bottom of the list on the left and click the > symbol next to the word "Display modes" so that it faces downward and exposes a list of all the display types. Click on the word "Shaded" NOT the > symbol this time. In the dialogue that pops up to the right of the list scroll down to the "Visibility" Section and then deselect the first check box for "Show isocurves"
@@SunSin91 well that's what did and now i know how to use it. also you can alternate e-mail addresses to get an extra 3 more months if you're still unsure.
I used rhino from the 3rd to the 5th and.. Yeah there were lot of improvement, but it has always been a pain in the a... For the artist in me. Now Discovering Plasticity.... Gosh... All is so easier... Never going back to Rhino 😂
Not a single architecture firm uses this that I know of, unless they cobble together a shit ton of random plug ins. They are still stuck with AutoCad, mostly because people are too lazy to switch and would rather pay thousands of dollars every year out the ass. Because architects used hand drafting well into the 21st century because mugh learning curves.
You are so right. As far as I know none of my classmates who actually went into Architecture as a career use Rhino in professional practice. Most small firms are cheapskates and use Sketchup for concepts and renderings to communicate with clients. Then, when it it's time to get to brass tacks they switch to AutoCAD. Large firms use Revit or similar because BIM is needed. BUT almost every single architect I have talked to learned Rhino in school. I was watching a Naval architect give a presentation the other day, he was using Rhino. Automotive surface/skin work is almost always done in Rhino, I designed sunglasses for Smith Optics using Rhino, and there are many other niche professions that find it is the most capable and reasonably priced option. If you really love "parametric" functionality you will never find a more capable and limitlessly powerful workflow as Rhino+Grasshopper.
That's really cool! I made something similar once. I would love to see your creation. Message me when you are done with it. RUclips won't let you post URL in the comments otherwise I would tell you to post it here.
This video just put a woodn stake threw confusion360's heart , you cant even print a drawing image on 360 if your as dumb as i am i had to use snipp tool for crying out loud as 360 decided it would be cool to hide my files in a folder i cant find
Rhino does no advertising as far as I can tell. They just quietly kick ass. I was watching a Boat Building video today an the Naval Architect was using Rhino.
Well it might be fine for industrial designers to use things like rhino real engineering work typically requires a parametric 3D modeler. Things like revision control and reuse of geometry is extremely important in industry. The same kind of methodologies are also valuable in hobbyist usage. Also the command line is so 1980s. Lol
I bought Rhino and it is neat... I guess... but I can't seem to find it useful. Yeah, great. You can draw a box or whatnot.. but what if your design changes and you need that box to go from 10cm to 15cm... or some other PARAMETER changes and you need to edit. I know this isn't Parametric... Everyone says "It's not designed that way." OK... so how is it designed? How can this be a useful program if you can't tweak drawings as you are fleshing out a design? Things have to "fit" into specific parameters in the real world. How can this be useful if you can't make the parts fit? What if you screwed up and the bolt holes should be a different size? In a parametric system it is simple to edit the sketch. In Rhino - for the life of me - I can't see how this is done. Since there aren't parameters on the placement or size you can't edit them. Obviously I am ignorant and I fully admit this. Obviously Rhino works. But no one at McNeil or on the forum or anywhere else has been able to answer my question. I have been through the manual. Nothing about editing tha tI have seen. They give parameters at the beginning and the tutorials work. That is great if you know all of the parameters when you start. Design isn't always that way though. Beauty of CAD is that it helps you to see things as you try to make them FIT.) I realize this video is a year old an this comment/question probably won't be seen but I thought I would take a chance. Thank you.
Here is the thing man. This magic idea of a parametric CAD program that you have in your head doesn't exist. The reality of the so called "Parametric CAD Platforms" require that you build your drawing a certain way to preference certain parameters that you think you will need to change at a future date. Sure, many simple features can be changed easily when the object is simple, but when you get to the complexity that you find in typical every day objects you will find that if you don't do it just right the program breaks, pops and error and you have to rebuild that portion of the tree. Rebuilding is the same as redrawing. Rhino just skips all of that. It makes drawing in CAD as direct and similar to the real world as it can possibly be. When I worked in an office with guys using SolidWorks I was 3x-10x faster than them. Sure, I had to redraw a lot, but in the end I still got to a final form faster than they did. The Parametric platforms aren't as direct or simple. For instance, you have to open a "sketch" to draw in 2D, then switch over to 3D space in order to extrude that sketch. With Rhino, you just draw in 2D on the ground plane then extrude without ever changing from some strange invention called a Sketch back into 3D space. It's always 3D space, just like the real world in front of you. Having to navigate the complexity of Parametric CAD platforms slows down your cognition. If you are going to commit to Rhino, welcome to the club. It's no different than any other CAD platform in that it will take you MANY hours to become proficient. Learning CAD is a frustrating endeavor. If you persevere you will have a skillset that most people lack. You will truly be elite in this regard. Please don't mistake the frustration of learning for a failing of Rhino. Once you become skilled at the platform you will understand why it works the way that it does, and why that fundamental difference compared to all of the so called "parametric" programs make Rhino capable of doing things those other programs cant. It's not an engineer's CAD platform. It is a Designer's program. For inventors and those who work with things that are less defined as a project when the CAD work starts. The direct workflow lessens your cognitive load and allows you to use Rhino as a sort of extension of your thinking. Whereas with the parametric programs that extra thinking gets used up as you are trying to design the tree and plan the shape of the CAD file along with drawing the part. Finally, I want to point out that Grasshopper (a plugin for Rhino) gives you more true parametric control than anything else on the market. It is unbelievably powerful in this regard. However, in order to use Grasshopper you must first become proficient in Rhino. After that you must learn a whole other Module Based environment to sort of program your CAD drawings using the Rhino commands as the basic building blocks. If you aren't familiar with the Rhino commands you will not be very successful in the Grasshopper environment. Kind of like knowing sentence structure and grammatical rules of your language perfectly but not knowing any vocabulary to make the sentences from. And that is a great analogy. Right now you are like a 3 year old who is frustrated with the difficulty of language. You are wondering why there is a difference between past and present tense. You are thinking the language is stupid and such a distinction should not exist. It must be the fault of the language. Rhino has it's flaws and it is not perfect, but I assure you it is so much better than your current feelings are telling you. Unfortunately learning it is not easy especially on your own. I learned it in Architecture school with 30 others who were at my level. We would draw for hours and days on end right next to each other. Every little question could be answered by asking someone nearby. Every little question for you is a 10-20 minute search on the internet. Perhaps there is a training course you could take? Best of Luck my friend. I do love Rhino. I hope that you make it past this current state and find yourself in the same position as I am with your skillset and feelings for the program.
@@DesignPrototypeTest Wow! I wasn't expecting a reply; much less such a comprehensive reply. As I said in my post, I know Rhino can do what needs to be done. I fully admit my ignorance. I guess what frustrates me the most are - and I am not referring to you - the Rhino tutorials and forum. For example, one of the tutorials on the Rhino website has a fellow showing you how to draw a wrench. Teriffic! But had he spent a minute or two drawing the wrench to fit a specific size I could have actually learned something more than just technique. As it was, I didn't get much out of it because I was so irritated at another tutorial of someone drawing something essentially useless. I realize this wasn't his point. But my point is that when it comes down to the end, parts have to fit. BTW... I am an engineer so maybe this helps explain my prediliction. I also liked your analagy of Rhino being like building things in real life. But like in real life - when you cut away your reference points - it is difficult to relocate other points accurately. I did find "box edit" and I thought that would be useful until I tried it. I wanted to resize a hole. It did resize the hole but the location didn't remain concentric. I think I may have cried a little. (Just kidding) If I could make a suggestion, maybe someday you coud make a video for people like me - and there has to be others like me - showing techniques used in Rhino when the specifications do change. What if the neck pocket your your guitar body is 1.75" and your neck is actually 1.8"... something like that. I aske this from a luthier on YT who does videos about Rhino. He also was nice enough to reply but all he said was "it's easy." The only thing I could figure out was to draw a .05" piece on the each side of the neck pocket and then join and trim. That is probably the hard way. Thank you again for taking the time to give me a helpful reply. I may give this another try. (I will say that Rhino's license model rocks!)
We really do not need to see your face. It will also make it easier for you, not having to shoot and import footage from webcam. Just a capture form a screen recorder is fine.
So-Called parametric functionality is overrated. It's burdensome to the user's cognition. The extra steps break up your problem solving for the actual item you're engineering. Because Rhino is more direct, it feels more like manipulating things in the real world and all of your mental efforts are spent on the actual task. With parametric CAD programs, even after spending all the effort, the tree often breaks and you lose the functionality. Then you have to spend a bunch of time rebuilding whatever broke. If you don't know exactly the shape that you're drawing, you can't plan for what features need to be adjustable parametrically. So if you are designing while drawing in CAD, you will invariably find yourself with an object that can't be adjusted parametrically the way you need to adjust it. Parametric modelers are for engineers lower on the work hierarchy. They've been handed a sketch and told to make it with no freedom to design themselves. They say yes sir and then they use the program to make what their boss told them to do including adjustability for features that are somewhat mutable. For free thinkers Rhino is the program of choice because it's much closer to working with objects in the real world. There's much more flexibility with the program for being creative and wandering to a final shape. All the while it doesn't overly tax your thinking. Rhino > Parametric IMO but I'm biased because I'm an inventive free thinking designer. I'm not an engineer working in a hierarchy.
@@DesignPrototypeTest First of all, please take my apologies for rude comment. Consider it as a clickbait. >the tree often breaks That's what version control is for. Also, if you spend enough time doing this, you will eventually learn to design within parameters and understand what actions are most likely to cause the tree to break. > If you don't know exactly the shape that you're drawing, you can't plan for what features need to be adjustable parametrically. That's simple, if you're not sure, everything should be parametrical. > Parametric modelers are for engineers lower on the work hierarchy. Not necessarily. I use parametric designs in my hobby projects as the sole designer. >program for being creative and wandering to a final shape Well, yes. Although I can't imagine using it for finalizing the design which contains of thousand of parts. > I'm an inventive free thinking designer. I'm not an engineer working in a hierarchy. My hobby project is an assembly of ~5000 individual parts. The 3D printer couldn't fit into the tolerance I was hoping for? Change one parameter, and there is no need to make changes to several hundred parts, and the fasteners will automatically be selected for the updated parts. So convenient. Thanks for being constructive.
>First of all, please take my apologies for rude comment. The most thoughtful human interaction I've had on the internet in days. You are forgiven. Thanks for the apology. >That's simple, if you're not sure, everything should be parametrical. LOL. Who needs finesse when brute force does the job. >I use parametric designs in my hobby projects as the sole designer I'm sure they do the job MUCH better for you than if you tried to use Rhino. That is the real issue here. We love the program that we got married to while learning it. You aren't going to spend the thousands of hours to learn Rhino when your parametric programs does the job. I wouldn't expect you to. It's kind of like keyboard layout. I actually learned Dvorak at one time. I got to the point where I could touch type but it was quite mentally effortful. So I went back to the vastly inferior QWERTY layout. Parametric modelers are the dominant standard and nothing is going to change that. I still think Rhino is better, but it doesn't matter. >~5000 individual parts. [eyes get wide] jeeze! Rhino has block instances (if all the parts are duplicates) but a project of that complexity does require functionality typically intended for use by engineers. I would have to see the actual project to be sure, but it does sound like Rhino would not be appropriate for that task.
One trick that isn't commonly mentioned but I learned by watching videos was when you have a list of check boxes, like the snap options, you can right click on one of them and it will select that one and de-select all the others. It's a super fast way to get only what you need for your command. If you right click again, it will go back to your previous selections. This is also really useful in the "setpt" command as I often only want to go in one direction.
Protip:
• in options set the middle mouse button to zoom selected (ZS).
• set an alius or keyboard shortcut for the command !_cplane _o to quickly change /set construction planes. !_cplane _w _t resets the construction plane to default.
• Holding ctrl+shift when orbiting (right click and mouse move) will snap the camera to ortho views (top, right, left, front, back)
• tapping tab whilst drawing a line or moving an object will constrain the direction.
• Whilst the gumball is active on an object clicking on one of the scale boxes opposite to the coloured arrow will give you a prompt to input a scale factor, if you put -1 it will mirror the object on that axis.
• To get the boundary of multiple shapes, instead of trimming each individual shape and joining, use curveboolean then hit 'a' for all ( or set an alius for it ) make sure delete existing is checked.
Great software overview! I've been a using Rhino since 2002 (version 3) and have not looked back. I originally purchased it because I felt many of the CAD programs offered (at that time) fell way short in their ability to develop organic surfaces. Today, I use Rhino as front end tool for Creo, but it is my ultimate choice for reverse engineering work. It's definitely not a full fledged parametric tool or even a collaborative CAD tool, but it gets the job done and well worth the money paid for a perpetual license.
I’m a designer who has used rhino a lot in the past but I’ve been more on the strategy side for the past 12 years. Getting back into making objects now, mostly in my free time. It’s been awkward, but This has been such a good tutorial. Thank you so much.
Finally!! I have spent so much time doing tangents between 2 circles! Thank you so much.
Great content! Thanks a lot. For me, trying Rhino after working for years in 3ds max, was super useful. As for Gumball transforms, its position and orientation can be easily adjusted with Ctrl. And reset with RMB menu on Gumball button.
Very nice intro video for Rhino. Have been using Rhino(and Grasshopper), Solidworks, and Maya since the early 90's here. For people asking about Rhino's parametric capability and fit for mechanical design and the people responding with Grahssopper offering parametric aspect... CAD parametric and Grasshopper parametric are two different types. CAD parametric capabilities are about being able to create the body case of an electronic product, shell out the internal cavity, and create all the internal electronics and mechanical components referencing the outer body, and after finishing the entire product, change any of the width/height/wall thicknesses, etc., and have the entire assembly of the components receive the trickling updates. Rhino, even with Grasshopper, cannot do that. It will not update the associated parts and components, and they will need to be recreated. Also, mechanical designs such as robotic arms cannot be really controlled and posed with Rhino in a reasonably productive way, as Rhino does not keep XYZ pivot information nor has a way of creating and managing a hierarchy of the XYZ nodes. Those are all best handled with trie CAD software applications or 3D modeling & animation applications such as Maya. On the other hand, modeling organic human-made products like ergonomic handles of kitchen tools, jewelry, and architecture concepts of the likeness of Zaha Hadid are a pure pleasure to create using Rhino, especially at that price point. Hope it helps some of you.
Rhino kicks butt , command line and rhinoscripts are so powerful , when you don't need parametric controls rhino is such a rapid modeller. When you are familiar with autocad rhino feels very friendly , nurbs can handle larger models then other software , which is great for reverse engineering from step files etc
Tip - dragging the command line down to the bottom matches autocad and is also less mouse travel and more speed
Great video!. Record history is a lot more powerful than you think, pretty much 80% of all rhino commands are supported by it. You could sweep a profile on a rail, then edit the rail with the sweep updating in real time! Super useful when editing complex forms without having to type out the commands again and again. It doesnt work with boolean, chamfer and fillet tools but other than that its great
So, it's a sort of parametric functionality. Fantastic! I guess I should practice more with it. I've only ever used it to make symmetrical objects. Apparently I need to take my own medicine and familiarize myself with the layout some more. :)
Great features...but moving over from inventor...which simply cant do the things I need, which I thought were basic, I do REALLY miss constraints..the tangent issue etc is managed so elegantly. My biggest struggle is the lack of parametric/associative tools. Im looking at record history but aaahhh so many pros/cons to each
@@Art_Of_Sound grasshopper is the parametric plug-in for rhino. It was developed from the original “record history” functions.
@@njelbe Not sure what you mean...grasshopper is pretty much what I primarily use...you have to know Rhino before using it though...but grasshopper not a dynamic parametric driver...its formulaic/interpretive so its def not the same thing
There is a command in rhino called “block” and a plug in called grasshopper.
Thank you for this video. I'm new to Rhino 3d, and this really helps get me on the right path to learning this program.
Nice you answered all my questions in 4 minutes! I feel Lucky because of you! Thanks.
This is your best video. Excellent tutorial, easy to follow, and great teaching style. Please make more Rhino vids.
Great Presentation. I've used Rhino for 7 years and it's a fantastic program.
What you do with rhino?
super awesome video. I'm just starting Rhino and I was so surprised to see your familiar face on a Rhino tutorial. Well done, you should consider making a series of these.
Excellent video, thank you! This video contains one of the most accurate comments that's overlooked in others... That many people who prefer one CAD tool over another -- these are not typically objective comparisons and in many cases they are based on what someone knows, or the first workflow that someone learned. For example, if someone spent 20 years in 2D CAD, they'll think quite a bit different than someone who started in a tool like SketchUp.
Fun video, I've been learning grasshopper, but I don't really know rhino, so I've been banging my head against a wall trying to do some of the simplest things. If you haven't done much in grasshopper, it's a really powerful tool for 3d automation and certain kinds of designs.
Its really easy to learn rhino, i learned rhino in 10 months. I know most of the advance stuffs in rhino. I just wanna know why are you learning grasshopper?
@@samim.Ali. I know solidworks really well, so for simple/regular parts, I just use that. (no point in learning regular Rhino for me) Grasshopper lets you do some types of design that regular rhino or solidworks couldn't do. Like algorithmic facades, complex patterning, randomization of details, etc.
@@BuildaSkill is grasshopper hard to learn?
@@samim.Ali. I found it pretty tricky, its more like coding. You have to be very explicit about selecting faces, etc. Some of the simplest tasks in a solid modeler require many steps in grasshopper. But it is really powerful for specific things.
@@samim.Ali. lots of fun plug-ins too, and very flexible.
I get so happy everytime you mention rhino, number 1, everytime I open fusion I get nowhere
Adore Rhino, have been using it since it was a freebie demo disc on Computer Arts magazine! Hints, keep the Osnap Near OFF, unless you REALLY REALLY need it! It can cause really frustrating issues where you think you have snapped to some end or corner, and it hasn't quite... Also, disable Apparent Intersection in the Options, as it will trim and split stuff just exactly, precisely where you have no idea where it is... It has its uses, but for most work, it is much more likely to give you trouble further down the line. Great vid, will point my pupils to it!!
Thanks! FINALLY starting the Rhino journey as an interior designer - all user tips needed & welcome
i was taught autocad early in my career. Rhino has been an easy transition fo rme due to that common ecosystem of commands. i like rhino these days. I still find 2d drawing to be easier in autocad. but i cant be bothered to do 3d in autocad and have since moved 100% to rhino for both 2d and 3d. very versatile for the money.
Help kill AutoCad.
16:56 Pre-Clicking or not on the object, it doesn't matter. You don't have to click on the Command Prompt either, nor using your right hand to type SCA, which are all at the left side of your keyboard. Just type it, press Spacebar, Enter or RMB (Right Mouse Button) are all used as enter in Rhino.
I'm using S1 for Sweep1, S2 for Sweep2. I would maybe put SC1 as an alias and do it with my left hand super fast. SC1+Spacebar.
Nice video, highlighting your workflow. There's always room for improvement. I'm using Rhino since V1.1 and still learning new things, optimizing my workflow from time to time.
Nice, informative episode. As a person that has mostly used Solidworks, Rhino makes me both interested try it, and also scares me by how different it works.
This is so cool. Know nothing about CAD but still, fascinating.
Not sure if it would be seen as underselling your profession, but I think a series of videos highlighting different techniques industrial designers use to make consumer friendly/appealing products would be really interesting. Things like showing class A surfaces in person, and maybe showing the evolution of a product over the years to more "rounded" shapes. This could be either through fake product development or case study analysis. Either way, good work on the video, after learning NX's surfacing suite I've been considering rhino
Great video!!! Consise & well presented valuable information. Thanks for sharing this.
Awesome! Great editing and fast fowarding through your tweeking to get to the point. Thank you!
Great tips! Thanks for the video.😀
dude, i have to add, i worked at a firm that would laugh cause I hated using right handed autocad key commands. often times mouse clicks were faster but they thought memorizing modern key commands (despite auto-generated prompts) showed expertise...
given that we often work between multiple UI situations, i found that it was best to only memorize the key commands that came naturally, or the ones that I discovered after using the same function over and over... jeeze i hope i can rhino af in my new jobber
Now this is a solid video, which is strange as it’s all about surfaces, 😂😂
But at 9:08, I think most gamers don’t instinctively rest their hand on home row, as no game uses home row to play, but instead usually play with WASD.... very small thing but it was fun to hear and everything else to me is new stuff, so thanks!!
9:04, sorry.
Lol one of the most amazing videos on your channel thank you so much for explaining this. It has basically totally sold me on rhino the command and keyboard system. Which is to say i'm completely hacked off now because being on linux im pretty much screwed when it comes to CAD. Rhino is mac too which makes me sorta half hope they have a semi multi platform codebase going on there behind the scenes. But realistically you just learn not to expect there will ever be a linux version. Which totally bums me out just like for all the other cad programs. And we always hope that 'heh eventually freecad might adopt a similar command system' and get a similar workflow one day. But freecad development goes back so long its got all sorts of weird crap buried deep within it. Which is as you know with software often leads to complications that become a law unto themselves. So i am totally boned here. I can 'man up' and stop grumbling. And try to hardass myself to learn freecad. But its not going to be that super efficiet productive workflow. Then overall it becomes less maintenance overhead to create a windows VM. Even doing gpu passthru too despite that being a pain is still easier than dealing with freecad forever i guess. If you see where im coming from here.
What about you DPT ? Personally i think you have a great opportunity here to ask Rhino software to do some type of a Rhino giveaway. And help to promote Rhino further with your channel. It would be most welcome i think given that not enough people get to know about Rhino compared to the other cad softwares. And a giveaway type promotion or other offer would also help a person who wants to buy rhino but cannot afford the $1000 asking price. At least not all upfront anyway. I'm not saying it is not totally worth the money. Just harder to cobble together that much in 1 go. So you are basically given 90 days to 'go all in' and try to learn as much of rhino as possible. Before finally pulling the trigger? I guess maybe they might have educational or institutional licensing offers available. Just did not bother to check myself being just a hobbyist.
Anyhow really good! You totally succeeded in showing why Rhino is worth looking at. And didnt ramble or anything! it was all really concise and well put together, of a very high quality. Really appreciated it.
Great overview. just a minor point, you should never have to click on the command input, when you start typing it will receive it by default. Thanks for sharing your experience
It is always interesting seeing someone good at a program. Interestingly I find Fusion 360 easier for me to understand coming from a CAD background rather than a surface background. But given how much time I have invested in that program, their licensing model scares me where Rhino looks like a program you can buy rather than borrow. I hate anything as a service model.
I"m a fusion 360 refuge, I have about a hundred files that i can't even 3d print anymore. Ok, so i lied about being a student but they didn't ask for any proof either. Now they want the proof! You can't save or select objects to print, its like they are targeting the maker community.
originally I was looking at Fusion 360 but the same thing scared me to learn rhino instead. Lets hope they don't change their licensing model in upcoming versions
Hey just a fyi, you didn't merge the lines, you lowered your tolerances. Which might cause more problems down the project pipeline.
Could you show us how you moddel a simple design? Maybe something to organize cables, I still need to do that on my printer ^^
Totally agree with u. Rhino is d best flexible very handy CAD tool spanning from jewelry, product, furniture, interiors, architecture or actually CNC and 3D printing. After Autocad, studiomax, sketchup, etc. I´ve decided to get into Rhino and now I really want ot master it (and don´t wanna spend time with others). Could you suggest where to learn it properly? RUclips channels (a part your one of course), blogs, books...
Many thanks
What you think about autodesks 3D Max? 1999 was the year when I jump in 3d modeling, and 3d max was only licensed software we had.
Having been educated in Autodesk Inventor, and now using Fusion 360, I gotta say that I wish I had learnt about Rhino earlier. Seems to match how I think about 3D modeling a lot closer to the program, inventor/fusion require a different type of thinking, so now I gotta try it out and see if it works better for me
Whats your opinion on Rino3D now?
thanks for the vid. IDo you think rhino is an alternative for fusion for mechanical design? Im a student so their discount is extremely affordable and I like how they actually give out perpetual licenses. Also dont want to put hundreds of hours into a program where they can insta change the license structure.... Grasshoper also looks extremely cool. Im mainly interested in designing chemisry lab grear (cases for glass holders things like this).I get that it would be more difficult but is it a mehhh that i get time with the program or is it better to learn there and come back to rhino when I want to start dealing with more complicated curvey things?
Awesome recommendation. I've been using Gimp for image editing for years and the menu layout looks very similar to this. Will definitely be my application of choice for any future designing I attempt.
Great intro
Thanks for sharing your experiences with all of us :-)
i have to used rhino cad regularly but im not a designer of any kind. i use it to look at completed designs so i can put the part together. do you have any videos showing useful tips on how to navigate the many options in taking apart and seeing the insides of a complex part?
If you're so inclined, it would be nice to see your list of aliases.
Where can I learn sub d modelling for cars?? Please advise🙏🙏🙏
Very helpful vid, thanks for taking the time
You are very welcome. Have a good day and best of luck with your Rhino work.
great video! Whats the command for zooming in on an object. Also if I know a command, but dont know where to find it in the icons, to get it in my middle mouseclick bar, how do I find it?
Zoom Selected or just type zs.
I'm curious to know if there is a workflow from Rhino that will do cnc machine toolpaths. Fusion does this very well for my purposes. The functionality doesn't have to be part of Rhino. I'd be fine with another program and even more fine if it was free.
I covered one such workflow in this video ruclips.net/video/EaGFQ7M04Wo/видео.html Spoiler: RhinoCAM works great, but lacks "adaptive" toolpaths at this time.
You make a compelling argument. I’m so stuck in fusion. Fusion has lots of drawbacks. It’s very very heavy on the computer and can be clunky. Rhino conversely is very light. There’s trad offs to both
yeah i finally got fusion360 to launch under WINE in linux. And it is a real resource hog. Can barely do anything in it. So if rhino is so lightweight... then maybe it is worth trying under WINE. Might not be so terrible... just dont want to blow my 90 days free evaluation period and then become stuck after it expires. That is actually the only thing stopping me here from trying out rhino yet.
I don't know, it's not parametric. I feel all the software should be parametric.
Noobie here. At about 3:50 he is able to select the single point to move it about. How is this done? Also, when I hit f10 it only shows 3 points on my box. On other objects however it seems to work.
With the shape exploded so that it is just six surfaces I selected them all then hit f10. Then I as you can watch, I selected that corner by drawing a box around it. After that I held down the control button and drew a box around the rest of the shape except the corner. The reason for this is because selecting the corner by drawing a box also selects the edges. You need to deselect the edges. So all you have isolated is the control points at the corner. Holding down shift adds more elements to your selection, holding down control, removes those elements from your selection.
Curveboolean is a handy command for editing linework - can save a lot of time trimming/splitting and joining
Hello, I have a question that I would like to answer please, does rhino7 have the feature of collecting pieces like other engineering programs solidwirk, ptc creo and catia
Great video!
When I select curve it either lays on the x or stands on the y axis. It’s not until I press shift that I can move it around. Do you know which setting to change to have the first point of the curve be placed anywhere freely ?
Depending on the viewport Top, Right, Front etc. it will place the points of the curve on the construction plane AKA the CPlane. For the Perspective view the Cplane is the XY plane. To change the Cplane click on the "CPlanes" tab right beneath the "Command:" box I use "Set Cplane by 3 points" almost exclusively for this task. When you are done, you reset to default Cplane settings by clicking on "Set Cplane World Top." (Note that if you hover over each of the buttons a box describing the command will pop up.) I rarely change Cplane, but when I need to, it is indispensable. Typically, I place points on the XY plane and then move them in the vertical direction using the Move command then selecting the "Vertical" sub-function. Alternately, if you are sort of free-handing the drawing you can just hold down the Ctrl button as you drag the point. It will only move in the vertical direction.
I know it’s possible to make functional parts in Rhino because I’ve seen your videos but I wonder how the design process works in the absence of parametric controls. I am also curious how Rhino handles assemblies and reusing components or parts.
Does anyone know if it is possible to import a spreadsheet/table into a Rhino drawing?
What I want to understand about Rhino is why does it auto-fill inappropriate commands as I start typing commands? I'm expecting it to behave like AutoCAD, where the simplest commands are first...like "L" is always line, "C" is always circle. But in Rhino, "C" is "SelCrossing", whatever that is. I always expect "ext" to be "extend", but Rhino alwaus jumps to "extrudeCRV". So I smash ESC a few times and type "exte". The first command Rhino selects seems to change with use, and it has changed mid session to much consternation! I suppose it's a "feature", since I haven't found any way to change this behavior...
Yeah. I've experience this too. I just set shortcuts so that I can determine what command will populate with the "auto-fill." You should file a bug report.
por que cuando abro mi rhino7, y solo abro el archivo, y ya despues no me deja trabajar se me traba mi pc
Great presentation, if it's ok to ask you, sewing workshop, 1: 6 sec, what is it? I am in the business of upholstering yachts, I see something similar :) Greetings from Sweden
Hi. No men watch sewing tutorials. Even manly sewing like upholstery or bags gets no views from my audience which is 99% male. You are a rare person to ask for such a thing. Best of luck with your entrepreneurial endeavor.
Very good video. Thanks !
The tips all work in other programs like Autodesk alias ..
I don't think the programs are that different anymore.
Great video! My background is metal fabrication. Can this program help pull dimensions from a structure that is twisted? Current modelling software I use (shapr3d) can't give me these properties. Only gives me dimensions in a flat plane. Hope you can help.
In many programs, there should be a way to extract a cord through the surface. Then measure the length of that cord. I can think of at least three ways to accomplish this task in Rhino.
@Design Prototype Test thank you but I'm a novice when I comes to rhino or fusion 360. I've onlyed on Sketchup Pro and Shapr3D. Neither to my knowledge can pull that data.
If you are engaged in classic sheet metal fabrication and aren't doing anything experimental there are specific programs which would serve you best. I am most familiar with the Sheet-metal plugin for SolidWorks, but I know there are other industry specific tools like that. If you are doing artistic and experimental things Rhino is the program you should choose. There isn't a problem I've seen which it can't solve in some way. It's very intuitive and straight to the goal kind of interface vs the "parametric modelers" and for these reasons it is my favorite. YMMV
Thanks for the reply. For example I am trying to created a table leg. Made from an 8 sided polygon. That is tapered and twisted 45 degrees at the top. And for the life me I can't pull the cords off.😡
Can you do threads on this? and I mean threads not that helix wrapped around a cylinder actual threads that can match existing threads?
Easily. I do it all the time. I download existing geometry from McmasterCarr. Then use the BooleanUnion command or to integrate these standard threads into my part. It's a very fast process. Hint: Nuts and Bolts have different threads for tolerance. Use "coupler" nuts from Mcmaster when building longer thread sections on deeper holes. It's my understanding that many expert level CAD operators use this hack no matter what program they use for drawing. It ensures that you will get it right. Whereas even if using a thread making wizard or plugin it's pretty easy to get it wrong.
Amazing software, it looks a lot like AutoCAD, and now I get why, but it seems better suited to 3D modeling. Since I already use AutoCAD I am interested on it, but how does it handle parametric changes? The only thing I don't like is that if you make a mistake you pretty much have to go back, change what you have to, and start from that and make all the other things you did to the model again... Changing a parameter somewhere would make me save a lot of time in certain situations, and it's the only feature that would convince me to jump to another platform (I have been using professionally AutoCAD for 12 years, and some more at school, even if just for 2D, so the curve for going 3D has been much quicker than learning a whole new software).
For parametric stuff people use a plug in called grasshopper.
the best trick is the ctrl shift selection. That safes soooo much time
Thank you
Hi bro i just start learning rhino 3d.
Is it suitable software for modelling interior and furniture modelling?
Thank u
Yes, definitely. The niches where Rhino has dominance are Jewelry design, Automotive body design, and Naval architecture. You'll notice these disciplines all have "flowing" forms in common. Some call it surfacing work. If you want to make furniture like Sam Maloof Rhino is a total winner. Let's simplify the world and say that there is a two dimensional spectrum between Fusion360 and Blender. Rhino is positioned at the middle of this spectrum. It combines the Engineering with the artistic.
Great video!
So how do you make specifically sized parts? How do they scale if you need to resize?
Unfortunately, I got a 3D printer for fun and to save money by fixing/improving some things around the house, not to make money with. If I were going to spend $1k, I could just buy the solutions instead of make them. I can see trying it out if I had a business to recoup the investment, but it’s just too much money to spend on a hobby... :(
If it's functional parts, then try openscad - not much mouse movement needed, very quickly you can write code, print, go back and adjust design, etc. Freeecad does not flow nice for me.
Wow. Thanks!
Damn I didn't know about Rino until last night when someone showcased a BBQ they made up on a FB laser cutting/engraving group.
Can you do a prefix ' before each command like in AutoCAD? Ie.. if you do LINE.. then type 'osnap you bring up the object snap properties, and shift right click to bring up osnap attribs
It's similar command line behavior to Autocad. If I type "li" there is an automatically generated list of commands including "line" and other things like "selline" which selects all lines in the drawing. After I type the whole word "line" or select it from the list, I am given a bunch of options also in the command line. For instance, I can navigate Line>Tangent>2Curves which will draw a line tangent to both the curves I select.
@@DesignPrototypeTest Nice.
I used to use ACADR11 in school, and at that time had a copy of ACADR12, so I'm 100% comfortable with that workflow. It's great to know there's a 3D program that is based on using CLI
wait so are you still practicing architecture?
awsome product
I've been using Rhino for years. I'm not even halfway through your video and already learned a few things. Cap??? The time I wasted doing those manually.. yikes. Thanks!
6 Things For Starting CAD Drafting in Rhino7
1. Watch this video.....
i'm joining forces with my cousin designing jewelry only i am exceedingly artistic but CAD stupid; bottom line i'll be training with him in january so until then wanted to practice so i downloaded rhino 7 90-day trial software and i'm stuck at the beginning where the top/front/right/ perspective views aren't in a grid view but all black so i can't even see what i'm doing lol again super artistic on paper but straight up CAD STUPID-- help!?
Double click on the view name. Causes it to expand full screen. Right click and drag changes perspective. It rotates the view around if you are in 3D space. There must be a beginner's guide to rhino hero on RUclips. Best of luck!
@@DesignPrototypeTest RIGHT ON 🙏🏻 APPRECIATE YOU COMPLETELY!!
my objects wont cap! Help. Rhino/McNeel troubleshoot no help.
I couldn't hear anything over those intimidating Gameboys in the back 😳
😀I made a video, but it was so different from my normal content that nobody clicked: ruclips.net/video/QORzTGd875k/видео.html
They don't support Linux. That means I have to deal with Windows or Mac first, then Rhino7...Happy to pay, but not if i have to swap OS of choice of 20 years. Thanks for the info though.
@@TheRybka30 yeah sure. However Freecad seems really esoteric though if it had a command console like rhino it too would then be possible to have a much more effecient streamlined and fast workflow. NOT like all the freecad tutorials i have been watching though. Which is to say not that it cant be done. Just dont expect miracles. I really am not seeing it yet. The vibe i am getting from freecad every time i open it... is nowhere near as user friendly. Its Fing scary for a beginner like me.
It just seems overall easier to setup gpu passthu VMs (which is painful, but just maybe less painful than learning freecad). Then install a copy of rhino. If you see the crazy and desperate kind of a decision tree we are having to be dealing with here on linux. haha i'm sure you get me :)
I have same problem.
There is a new option in the parametric CAD space. It is not as polished but it rapidly improving and is completely cross platform. The CAD application is part of the Autodrop3d cloud but it has the source code for the CAD portion available under the AGPL3 licence and allows you to export from the cloud environment preventing you from being stung by a hard link to a particular cloud platform. Runs on and device that has google chrome, Microsoft edge or Mozilla fire fox.
www.autodrop3d.com/parametric-cad1.html
@@TheRybka30 Thanks - I was considering that option Ľuboš, but it is a parametric CAD unlike the Rhino7 if I have understood correctly?
@@TheRybka30 I just tried it - I've been unable to get past creating an account. Shits me.
I think you misunderstood the subd function
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My extruded curve show middle lines also when I cap it. Is there any way to stop this behaviour, it is literally annoying...
Basically you have a problem with the control points on your curve. If your line geometry is not critical then before you extrude you can try "Remove MultiKnot" or "SimplifyCRV" to clean up the control points on your curve before you extrude. This is only an initial pointer into a very complex subject. Basically curves are the foundation of surfacing. Working with clean curves is paramount.
@@DesignPrototypeTest I mean just like SketchUp has clean edges when we extrude any face but rhino always shows the middle line between that faces, I mean it shows + in every face and the geometry simply is not looking good, however it creates no issue but looks very meshy.
OH! you just need to turn off isocurve display. I have those turned off for the "Shaded" view but keep them on for "Ghosted" view. At the top menu start by clicking on Tools>Options Then on the pop-up scroll to the bottom of the list on the left and click the > symbol next to the word "Display modes" so that it faces downward and exposes a list of all the display types. Click on the word "Shaded" NOT the > symbol this time. In the dialogue that pops up to the right of the list scroll down to the "Visibility" Section and then deselect the first check box for "Show isocurves"
@@DesignPrototypeTest oh yes, it solve the issue. Thanks for taking time for reply.
in the first few seconds I felt more at home than in fusion. I spent thousands of hours in Lightwave when I was younger.
I spent my youth on 3d max...know the feeling
tnx
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Thanks
Glad it was helpful.
Rhino is the best =)
Im into 3d printing, but once I checked out rhino 7 price, I immediately closed the webpage.. nope aint doing that.
you can get a free trial for three months, it's worth a try.
@@sashanakitende8532 why try to learn new software when its only for a few months..
@@SunSin91 well that's what did and now i know how to use it. also you can alternate e-mail addresses to get an extra 3 more months if you're still unsure.
I used rhino from the 3rd to the 5th and.. Yeah there were lot of improvement, but it has always been a pain in the a... For the artist in me. Now Discovering Plasticity.... Gosh... All is so easier... Never going back to Rhino 😂
Not a single architecture firm uses this that I know of, unless they cobble together a shit ton of random plug ins. They are still stuck with AutoCad, mostly because people are too lazy to switch and would rather pay thousands of dollars every year out the ass. Because architects used hand drafting well into the 21st century because mugh learning curves.
You are so right. As far as I know none of my classmates who actually went into Architecture as a career use Rhino in professional practice. Most small firms are cheapskates and use Sketchup for concepts and renderings to communicate with clients. Then, when it it's time to get to brass tacks they switch to AutoCAD. Large firms use Revit or similar because BIM is needed. BUT almost every single architect I have talked to learned Rhino in school. I was watching a Naval architect give a presentation the other day, he was using Rhino. Automotive surface/skin work is almost always done in Rhino, I designed sunglasses for Smith Optics using Rhino, and there are many other niche professions that find it is the most capable and reasonably priced option. If you really love "parametric" functionality you will never find a more capable and limitlessly powerful workflow as Rhino+Grasshopper.
so weird that im designing a nintendo game boy right now in rhino xD
That's really cool! I made something similar once. I would love to see your creation. Message me when you are done with it. RUclips won't let you post URL in the comments otherwise I would tell you to post it here.
This video just put a woodn stake threw confusion360's heart , you cant even print a drawing image on 360 if your as dumb as i am i had to use snipp tool for crying out loud as 360 decided it would be cool to hide my files in a folder i cant find
Rhino does no advertising as far as I can tell. They just quietly kick ass. I was watching a Boat Building video today an the Naval Architect was using Rhino.
@@DesignPrototypeTest I spent $950 and got the download gonna call tomorrow about the actual hard disk
nice collection of nintendo ataris gameboys
Thanks. I made a video about them: ruclips.net/video/QORzTGd875k/видео.html
@@DesignPrototypeTest hey i love rhino
thousands of hours might be an over statement
Great video mate. But i'll never pay for programs :p
Well it might be fine for industrial designers to use things like rhino real engineering work typically requires a parametric 3D modeler. Things like revision control and reuse of geometry is extremely important in industry. The same kind of methodologies are also valuable in hobbyist usage. Also the command line is so 1980s. Lol
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I bought Rhino and it is neat... I guess... but I can't seem to find it useful. Yeah, great. You can draw a box or whatnot.. but what if your design changes and you need that box to go from 10cm to 15cm... or some other PARAMETER changes and you need to edit. I know this isn't Parametric... Everyone says "It's not designed that way." OK... so how is it designed? How can this be a useful program if you can't tweak drawings as you are fleshing out a design? Things have to "fit" into specific parameters in the real world. How can this be useful if you can't make the parts fit? What if you screwed up and the bolt holes should be a different size? In a parametric system it is simple to edit the sketch. In Rhino - for the life of me - I can't see how this is done. Since there aren't parameters on the placement or size you can't edit them. Obviously I am ignorant and I fully admit this. Obviously Rhino works. But no one at McNeil or on the forum or anywhere else has been able to answer my question. I have been through the manual. Nothing about editing tha tI have seen. They give parameters at the beginning and the tutorials work. That is great if you know all of the parameters when you start. Design isn't always that way though. Beauty of CAD is that it helps you to see things as you try to make them FIT.) I realize this video is a year old an this comment/question probably won't be seen but I thought I would take a chance. Thank you.
Here is the thing man. This magic idea of a parametric CAD program that you have in your head doesn't exist. The reality of the so called "Parametric CAD Platforms" require that you build your drawing a certain way to preference certain parameters that you think you will need to change at a future date. Sure, many simple features can be changed easily when the object is simple, but when you get to the complexity that you find in typical every day objects you will find that if you don't do it just right the program breaks, pops and error and you have to rebuild that portion of the tree. Rebuilding is the same as redrawing. Rhino just skips all of that. It makes drawing in CAD as direct and similar to the real world as it can possibly be. When I worked in an office with guys using SolidWorks I was 3x-10x faster than them. Sure, I had to redraw a lot, but in the end I still got to a final form faster than they did. The Parametric platforms aren't as direct or simple. For instance, you have to open a "sketch" to draw in 2D, then switch over to 3D space in order to extrude that sketch. With Rhino, you just draw in 2D on the ground plane then extrude without ever changing from some strange invention called a Sketch back into 3D space. It's always 3D space, just like the real world in front of you. Having to navigate the complexity of Parametric CAD platforms slows down your cognition.
If you are going to commit to Rhino, welcome to the club. It's no different than any other CAD platform in that it will take you MANY hours to become proficient. Learning CAD is a frustrating endeavor. If you persevere you will have a skillset that most people lack. You will truly be elite in this regard. Please don't mistake the frustration of learning for a failing of Rhino. Once you become skilled at the platform you will understand why it works the way that it does, and why that fundamental difference compared to all of the so called "parametric" programs make Rhino capable of doing things those other programs cant. It's not an engineer's CAD platform. It is a Designer's program. For inventors and those who work with things that are less defined as a project when the CAD work starts. The direct workflow lessens your cognitive load and allows you to use Rhino as a sort of extension of your thinking. Whereas with the parametric programs that extra thinking gets used up as you are trying to design the tree and plan the shape of the CAD file along with drawing the part.
Finally, I want to point out that Grasshopper (a plugin for Rhino) gives you more true parametric control than anything else on the market. It is unbelievably powerful in this regard. However, in order to use Grasshopper you must first become proficient in Rhino. After that you must learn a whole other Module Based environment to sort of program your CAD drawings using the Rhino commands as the basic building blocks. If you aren't familiar with the Rhino commands you will not be very successful in the Grasshopper environment. Kind of like knowing sentence structure and grammatical rules of your language perfectly but not knowing any vocabulary to make the sentences from. And that is a great analogy. Right now you are like a 3 year old who is frustrated with the difficulty of language. You are wondering why there is a difference between past and present tense. You are thinking the language is stupid and such a distinction should not exist. It must be the fault of the language. Rhino has it's flaws and it is not perfect, but I assure you it is so much better than your current feelings are telling you. Unfortunately learning it is not easy especially on your own. I learned it in Architecture school with 30 others who were at my level. We would draw for hours and days on end right next to each other. Every little question could be answered by asking someone nearby. Every little question for you is a 10-20 minute search on the internet. Perhaps there is a training course you could take?
Best of Luck my friend. I do love Rhino. I hope that you make it past this current state and find yourself in the same position as I am with your skillset and feelings for the program.
@@DesignPrototypeTest Wow! I wasn't expecting a reply; much less such a comprehensive reply. As I said in my post, I know Rhino can do what needs to be done. I fully admit my ignorance. I guess what frustrates me the most are - and I am not referring to you - the Rhino tutorials and forum. For example, one of the tutorials on the Rhino website has a fellow showing you how to draw a wrench. Teriffic! But had he spent a minute or two drawing the wrench to fit a specific size I could have actually learned something more than just technique. As it was, I didn't get much out of it because I was so irritated at another tutorial of someone drawing something essentially useless. I realize this wasn't his point. But my point is that when it comes down to the end, parts have to fit. BTW... I am an engineer so maybe this helps explain my prediliction. I also liked your analagy of Rhino being like building things in real life. But like in real life - when you cut away your reference points - it is difficult to relocate other points accurately. I did find "box edit" and I thought that would be useful until I tried it. I wanted to resize a hole. It did resize the hole but the location didn't remain concentric. I think I may have cried a little. (Just kidding) If I could make a suggestion, maybe someday you coud make a video for people like me - and there has to be others like me - showing techniques used in Rhino when the specifications do change. What if the neck pocket your your guitar body is 1.75" and your neck is actually 1.8"... something like that. I aske this from a luthier on YT who does videos about Rhino. He also was nice enough to reply but all he said was "it's easy." The only thing I could figure out was to draw a .05" piece on the each side of the neck pocket and then join and trim. That is probably the hard way. Thank you again for taking the time to give me a helpful reply. I may give this another try. (I will say that Rhino's license model rocks!)
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learn sketchup in a few weeks
We really do not need to see your face. It will also make it easier for you, not having to shoot and import footage from webcam.
Just a capture form a screen recorder is fine.
CAD? No parametric? GTFO
So-Called parametric functionality is overrated. It's burdensome to the user's cognition. The extra steps break up your problem solving for the actual item you're engineering. Because Rhino is more direct, it feels more like manipulating things in the real world and all of your mental efforts are spent on the actual task.
With parametric CAD programs, even after spending all the effort, the tree often breaks and you lose the functionality. Then you have to spend a bunch of time rebuilding whatever broke.
If you don't know exactly the shape that you're drawing, you can't plan for what features need to be adjustable parametrically. So if you are designing while drawing in CAD, you will invariably find yourself with an object that can't be adjusted parametrically the way you need to adjust it.
Parametric modelers are for engineers lower on the work hierarchy. They've been handed a sketch and told to make it with no freedom to design themselves. They say yes sir and then they use the program to make what their boss told them to do including adjustability for features that are somewhat mutable.
For free thinkers Rhino is the program of choice because it's much closer to working with objects in the real world. There's much more flexibility with the program for being creative and wandering to a final shape. All the while it doesn't overly tax your thinking.
Rhino > Parametric IMO but I'm biased because I'm an inventive free thinking designer. I'm not an engineer working in a hierarchy.
@@DesignPrototypeTest
First of all, please take my apologies for rude comment. Consider it as a clickbait.
>the tree often breaks
That's what version control is for. Also, if you spend enough time doing this, you will eventually learn to design within parameters and understand what actions are most likely to cause the tree to break.
> If you don't know exactly the shape that you're drawing, you can't plan for what features need to be adjustable parametrically.
That's simple, if you're not sure, everything should be parametrical.
> Parametric modelers are for engineers lower on the work hierarchy.
Not necessarily. I use parametric designs in my hobby projects as the sole designer.
>program for being creative and wandering to a final shape
Well, yes. Although I can't imagine using it for finalizing the design which contains of thousand of parts.
> I'm an inventive free thinking designer. I'm not an engineer working in a hierarchy.
My hobby project is an assembly of ~5000 individual parts. The 3D printer couldn't fit into the tolerance I was hoping for? Change one parameter, and there is no need to make changes to several hundred parts, and the fasteners will automatically be selected for the updated parts. So convenient.
Thanks for being constructive.
>First of all, please take my apologies for rude comment.
The most thoughtful human interaction I've had on the internet in days. You are forgiven. Thanks for the apology.
>That's simple, if you're not sure, everything should be parametrical.
LOL. Who needs finesse when brute force does the job.
>I use parametric designs in my hobby projects as the sole designer
I'm sure they do the job MUCH better for you than if you tried to use Rhino. That is the real issue here. We love the program that we got married to while learning it. You aren't going to spend the thousands of hours to learn Rhino when your parametric programs does the job. I wouldn't expect you to.
It's kind of like keyboard layout. I actually learned Dvorak at one time. I got to the point where I could touch type but it was quite mentally effortful. So I went back to the vastly inferior QWERTY layout. Parametric modelers are the dominant standard and nothing is going to change that. I still think Rhino is better, but it doesn't matter.
>~5000 individual parts.
[eyes get wide] jeeze! Rhino has block instances (if all the parts are duplicates) but a project of that complexity does require functionality typically intended for use by engineers. I would have to see the actual project to be sure, but it does sound like Rhino would not be appropriate for that task.
Chief architect is the easiest program to learn and use and does automatic 3D.