Matt Laidlaw very poor attempt to copy a ducati diavel. You kids over a harley really need to look back at erik buells intake and swing the throttle body up 90 degrees that air box is but ugly and way too much in the way
Matt Laidlaw one other thing matt can you say brembo. If you want cutting edge please make them able to stop effortlessly. Get with good brakes and 17 inch wheels and go from there
Randy Hutchinson A stock Ducati diavel is 162hp and a stock KTM superduke is 177hp. Both bikes with a nice upright riding position. This FXDR is 119 pounds of torque and dang thing still weighs almost 650pounds
My first bike was a 1969 Harley Davidson Rapido. I drove it 23,000+ miles on the first year. But, Harley still makes the best looking bike. The Japanese Harley copies just don't have what it takes to make the bike absolutely beautiful. Even so, I still ride my old 1972 CB750 Honda, it's great and easy to work on. I'm an old guy now, but still ride and love every minute of it.
For all of you that say this is the end of HD because of this bike, it isn't. If this bike doesn't suite you then all that means is that you are not the target customer. If you want HD to survive and continue making the traditional bikes we love, then they have to branch out and target different tastes (customer base) in order to survive. HD isn't going to dump their traditional line of bikes.
Kevin Flanders The new bike buyers of today are dumping the traditional line. Even a old farmer can see that. The old hippies are done buying motorcycles.
HD as a company has plummeted. This whole year their stock has straight dropped in value. They are in desperate need of new buyers, and this new line up they brought out was suppose to bring in those new buyers. These bikes are heavy, slow, EXPENSIVE and not the most appealing. Almost every motorcycle manufacturer makes cruiser style bikes with a lot more power and affordability. HD is axing themselves at this point. They failed to evolve as a company.
I actually like the bike, I think it looks cool. But the performance and price are just so far off the mark that it's laughable! I don't want HD to fail, I want them to build a bike that competes with other bikes in this class that I can buy with confidence. I couldn't buy this bike with confidence.
I have an 03 vrod with a scratch built turbo system. Bone stock engine on 9psi boost. Put down 154rwhp around 170 at crank. Bike has 18k turbo miles. ZERO problems. ZERO. Fukrs are built like a workhorse. And guess who started design on that Engine before harley hi jacked it...Buell. was already designing it in the mid to late 90s.
@Theodore Marakas actually Erik buell designed the engine in the 90s. Harley then gave it to Porsche to fine tune where they added 30lbs plus bulk to the engine to put it on the vrod frame. The engine was going to b used in the xb series bikes initially but hd hijacked it n didn't allow buell to use it. There is a lot of things he did the public doesn't know. He even had a 450 super moto/dirtbike style engine that they built that harley also scrapped.
@Theodore Marakas ruclips.net/video/0QKBSUOI7EQ/видео.html hopefully some day someone makes a good documentary on Erik and more of this information will b public knowledge.
The V-Rod Muscle is the best looking V-Rod series Harley made. It was a awesome bike. I had but unfortunately had to sell. That pretty much the only Harley I would buy only because I like the performance as well as looks of the bike. I'll eventually will get another but it will be a used one because Harley canceled it.
Glad to see Harley stepping out of there comfort zone to appeal to new riders. I am even happier knowing that traditional bikes are still available. I can't get onboard with the looks.
Nice bike, it’s just too much money for what it is. Not sure who their target customer would be with this model. Put it in the $15000 range and you might have something. Just seeing these sitting on dealer floors as leftovers going into the next model year.
Absolutely fugly. The Diavel X slays this is appearance, lean angles, braking, HP, essentially any measure of performance or anybody with eyes can tell the Diavel X would bury this and beleive it or not it will probably be cheaper.
You are absolutely correct! Harley needs to stop putting a price point many thousands of dollars more than comparable bikes. Too expensive for the average guy!
Man, why so many negative comments all over YT for this bike? I personally find it gorgeous...amazingly beautiful design. Hell i may even consider buying one when they appear at my dealership.
2018 Triumph Rocket Roadster is another great option in the power cruiser category. MSRP starts at $15,700. Can be purchased for less. It’s comfortable, powerful, handles well for its size and sounds great stock. I purchased a new left over 2014 Honda Valkyrie for approximately 50% off the $17,999 MSRP. An awesome bike that’s super reliable, handles like a dream and is unique. I rarely see one on the road. Highly recommended.
Pitts S2C, the Rocket III is a beast! It’s really one of the only bikes I would buy other than a new Road Glide. I haven’t seen a Moto Guzzi Flying Fortress in person yet but the pictures of it look cool.
PRICED LIKE A DIAVEL AND VMAX BUT 5X SLOWER THAN THEM. CMON HD! I love the looks of this bike BUT this is one of the largest displacement bikes that is somehow the absolute slowest bike on the market (in its respective 2019 class) and commands one of the most expensive prices. This bike is likely not class leading at anything (braking/hp/tq/handling/weight/ MPG/ suspension/ price/reliability which is TBD). You have to buy a Stage 1/2/3/4 performance kit and even then it still could not keep up with any of the bikes in it's current 2019 class. Vmax and Diavel destroy this bike in every aspect. This bike needed to be $16K/$17K USD MAX but instead carries the 30% HD price premium. An old 2000 1300CC Vmax would still destroy this bike today which is sad.
@Matt M. one guy commented on another video I commented on wondering why I was comparing a "Cruiser" (FXDR) with a "Sport bike"? Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't they show this FXDR on a race track doing twisties etc? To me that's sport bike worthy and NOT a cruiser bike! Additionally, I dont think a Diavel is a Sport bike and is very much a cruiser. To me BOTH of them are cruisers with the Diavel being hands down a FAR superior bike to the FXDR thing.
Cigar Obsession I think they have. They just announced a street fighter, an adventure bike, and an electric bike as well. They are entering lots of new markets and further solidifying their hold over the heavy cruiser market with a new Softail model and updates to the touring bikes.
leward18 No power to weight ratio is. Hence the reason I put two bikes that are big twins with lighter weight and big torque numbers. It's the combo of torque and HP that make those bikes so dominant. Diavels walk 1000cc super sports up to 100 mph because of the way they make power.
I ride a HD 2012 Night-Rod-Muscle. It is a blast when I want an adrenaline rush, and comfortable (for me) to ride long distance just unwinding from stress.
Nathan Taylor sorry, but the average guy can’t afford these new ugly bikes. Not one person I ride with can buy new and the majority have bikes that are 10 years old or more. When a bike costs the same as a car brand new it’s a problem.
I'm going to have to agree you. WTF are the execs thinking pricing it like they are. It's cool, appealing to the younger crowd but none of them will be able to afford it!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@pittss2c601 Vmax msrp is 18500 so if your being quoted 16k it's because they don't sell so they're trying to get it moved silver eagle in waterloo had to sell the vmax they had that sat for two years for 15k to get rid of it and if your being realistic about buying something that expensive you'll buy what you want not what's cheaper if you're talking about what's cheaper it's because you can't really afford what you want i know this from experience i only cared about price point when i was broke.
That cover behind the seat begs to be dropped and/or lost, just in the daily process of getting into the storage under it. It would be simple to make it easily flip open and closed on a hinge, and still be removable, as you would go about fastening down the pillion.
What's it been, three days? This thing is starting to grow on me :) Really want to ride one up here in the Cascade curves and twisties. Matt, would love to see you do some canyon carving with it. I think that will be the make/break test of these things. Looking forward to your views and impressions. Thanks again for taking us along with you to the dealer show.
Harley is a dying brand in America, Harley needs to stop asking premium prices on their bikes, as you are not getting what you pay for. I dont care about the brand, I just want a good quality machine for a reasonable price instead of being sold a lifestyle.
I cant even walk into a HD dealership to simply look at the lineup without being sales pitched by 3 or 4 guys. Theyre so pressured by management to make sales. HD of scottsdale is terrible for this. HD will be bankrupt in under 15 years.
Harley is far from being a dying brand in America. They still sell more bikes in America than any other bike maker in the world, and you actually get a lot for what you pay for! The quality is topnotch and even your average Harley is waaaayyyy more impressive looking than anything else on the road. I live down here in San Antonio, Texas, and all you see down here in Texas are Harley's (unless it's a Sport bike). I don't think I've ever even seen a Goldwing down here lol. And Texas buys more bikes than 95% of the country! And as far as pricing goes, well they're pretty much the same as a BMW or a Ducati, and sorry, but BMW bikes are just as overrated as their cars; filled with electronic issues and ridiculous maintenance costs! Ducati maintenance costs are even worse! Sorry, but I'll stick with Harley. You just can't beat the style, the sound, and the quality!
I don't think they will go bankrupt coz hd is selling world wide and a lot of demand In INDIA too lot of people are moving towards the Harley Davidson even my self planning to buy one I didn't understand why you gays so anti hd
John Madsen well how in the fuck do you think they can sell a bike for cheap with paying union wages? Lots of overhead and still has to meet shareholder value. If you’re pulling wheelies then buy the damn parts to race it.
Thanks Matt this was very new to me and surprising. I've been riding 49 years and have owned a cross section of brands including a couple Harley but consider myself a Triumph guy now. So what I wanted to see is more in line with: classic appearance, great handling, weight below 500 pounds, competitive performance and pricing well below 20K. I don't know what market research says but I don't think plastic covered cartoonish styled bikes that aren't practical and probably at the low end of performance and high end of pricing will be a winning formula. I don't hang with the Harley crowd but I don't imagine they will be happy. I wanted to like these bikes because Harley is trying but it is hard to argue with those negative comments below......sorry.
Fxdr 114 is a dream come true bike . Fxdr 114 is the proof that Harley davidson will do much better bikes in the future . Fxdr 114 is the best of the best so far for long rides along the sea coast and on the mountains . Fxdr 114 is the bike harley davidson made it for me to buy .
And not even a good copy. The warrior looks much better imo and would smoke this Harley. I guess the days of Harley being a class of motorcycle all their own are over and now they are trying to copy the other companies designs.
Hi Matt, I think Harley has worked the v-twin configuration for all it's worth. I think they need to think of other configurations, as BMW had to break away from the opposed -twin layout. I think HD needs to experiment with flat, opposed multis (to knock out the Goldwing), a 90-degree longitudinal twin, maybe even a liquid-cooled square four (like Ariel). Also, tackle Triumph with a triple. And Royal Enfield with high-quality long-stroke 350 & 500 singles for the Indian market. You're the man with his nose to the ground, so I would love to hear your say.
Guy I ride with a few times, had to ride a demo bike all summer because his new cvo 114 that he paid a fortune for had a motor failure, never told me what the problem was, too proud for that, just that Harley had to examine the motor, so they gave hime a deal on a new one think with the 107, don’t know if this is a common problem, don’t know a lot of people that ride with this block
powerman1972 They’re not thinking that’s the problem. The people that build these things cannot afford them so who else could? Harley executives don’t understand what they are selling is a blue collar product. Sell the damn things at the blue collar average wage of $15 per hour.
Also probably needs about 30-40 more hp than it has (if I recall the 114 has about 90hp bone stock). They really should just make the stage 2 kit the stock setup on the M8. I test rode a Sport Glide with the 107 and it felt like the motor was very restricted and that there was a lot more power to be had.
My Dealer gave me $15.5 for my LowRider.S, and I ordered this Beast “Vivid Black” , getting that much for a Trade from a Dealer, tells me, someone really wanted the last, Best Dyna. But I needed to step up, plus the 110 ran so Damn Hot, I needed that M8 👍🇺🇸👍
We had to ride 700cc 750's in the mid 80's so Harley could eventually over charge for product and produce this ill conceived 'vision'? I think RR's Alzheimers was in play earlier than people think or care to admit.
@@lusekelomtafya894 Get a group of your friends together acquire a small boat with a motor -Arm yourselves with AK-47's then approach a passing cargo ship and pretend you are a welcoming committee Hope there isnt armed security on board..
People saying this looks ugly forget that this is not a bike aimed for them. This is a bike aimed at the younger crowd that consider buying something like a diavel. The styling makes sense, its modern and aggressive.
Great looking bike! I absolutely love that accessorized model. I think a side mount plate and some little under fender mini led signals and brake light would suit it perfectly. Victory wooed me away with their Hammer muscle cruiser but I tjink the new softail and in particular this FXDR will have me back on HD again one day.
Hingle McCringleberry that’s not what I am seeing. Performance is what these young riders are after. HD needs to stop building new bikes with old parts.
The rear is futuristic in the design but they had to give it a front design that was complementary to the rear. It looks so cheap and amateur in the design. It's terrible. I will never want to be known as the owner of that bike. It's like buying a SsangYong Muso.
Guy talks performance for 6 mins and doesn't mention weight,hp,or torque lol. Also you shouldn't have to pay more for passenger seat and pegs. A 240 rear tire sucks for handling too.
It's great harley wants to target new riders that are wealthy lawyers and successful drug dealers but if they are targeting young riders who cant afford these bikes then they have smoked too many you know what !!! The only way a young rider could afford these bikes if they had good credit history but if they buy this bike with less than 50% cash they will be in bad debt after 2 years of owning these bikes on finance infact they will be bankrupt or forced to commit insurance fraud to get out of the debts because of the resale value and used market. The thing that will hurt all young riders who buy bikes on finance is sketchy dealers trying to rip them off when it comes to trade-in while the bike is still under finance - that will be the killer of young riders. i used to work in the industry where i see so many young kids go bankrupt trying to own something they cant afford - taking out finance is killer of all young kids - bankruptcy has increased 350% with young kids taking out finance on phones cars and bikes the past couple of years.
Steven; Man, that's harsh but probably pretty right-on. I guess that's the bitter truth that comes with the predatory corporate business-model in the present poised-on-the-edge dystopian neorealism economic-political condition where nothing is as it appears, where the pop culture emphasizes brash and bold exceptionalism, where market-share competition is brutal, and which breeds a valiant nihilism recklessness. In this 2-wheel buyers market, for $15-20K, a prudent, common-sense fella can buy 3 or more exceptionally fine low-mile used bikes, and count on keeping and riding em for 50-100,000 reliable, mostly painless and smile-filled miles.
Who designed this shit, a five year old? All I see is acres of plastic and parts which seem to be bolted on at random. Harley have become a laughing stock.
Very disappointed.....again. Too much for what you get. You want to give HD the chance but you just can not !!!! HD........Why so much for a basic simple machine??? We are all, do not have extra dollars in the bank. What the hell are they thinking about ???? 30% of all household families have around 2500.00 in the bank or LESS. Who are they targeting ? No wonder what Japaneses bike companies do soooo well in the US. STUPID mentality.
I ride and race a 1700 VMAX , the quality of build is outstanding. I've looked at Harley"s and they have a long way to go to understand the meaning of quality rather than 'Quantity' .
Cam White Oil cooled is basically still air cooled. it's just air moving across the oil cooler. You sit in traffic and you will see 350+ degree engine temps. Oil cooling has no comparison with liquid cooled engines where temps can be maintained within 5 degrees. the tighter you can control temp the tighter the engine tolerances and more power. That oil cooled engine has to take temps up to 350+ so tolerances have to be loose so metal has room to swell. If the ring gap is tight it will stick a ring and break a rod or destroy a piston and cylinder.
Yea that's pretty disappointing, just when I was having faith in Harleys new lineup they still fall back into the same nonsense that keeps them behind the pack. Hopefully the street fighter will make an exception.
Face the facts, young people don't want to be affiliated with the "Harley image". Embarrassingly loud pipes, village people costumes, tough guy scowl on fat, bloated faces. That South Park episode is exactly how Harley riders are perceived by everyone except other Harley riders.
And old people don't want to be affiliated with effeminate, skinny jean wearing, cartoon watching, dangerous show- offs whose bikes sound like a nest of bees .
Lou Manning Lol Lou go back to watching your cheap cartoons you must live in a fantasy. Also it’s a known fact young people don’t know shit and they don’t want to work ask anybody who’s in their 40’s or 50’s about the younger people they have to work with. It’s sad our young people are this way! 🙄
If you compare Harley Davidson to any other motorcycle brand harley davidson will always look 100 year advanced than them. No doubt Harley Davidson is a one hell of a motorcycle brand.
Good looking modern styling... very late in the game guys, but better late than never! However, the real question is will HD bring more power with less weight for better handling finally?
Fxdr 114 is cool thrill joy good beautiful light not so heavy easy to handle . Fxdr 114 is a real bike . I want fxdr 114 . Fxdr 114 makes me want to have it . Fxdr 114 is the best bike harley davidson has . Yes it is fxdr 114
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The Accessory Collection at the end is not Dominance. It's called "Dominion" Sorry for the error.
Dominance sounds better anyway.
I'm looking forward to your ride review. You're very helpful for tall riders.
Matt Laidlaw what is the price, wet Weight and output
Matt Laidlaw very poor attempt to copy a ducati diavel. You kids over a harley really need to look back at erik buells intake and swing the throttle body up 90 degrees that air box is but ugly and way too much in the way
Matt Laidlaw one other thing matt can you say brembo. If you want cutting edge please make them able to stop effortlessly. Get with good brakes and 17 inch wheels and go from there
80-85 hp, at that price point it should have 200 hp. H-d can do better I am so dissapointed.
Agreed H-D needs to go hard not safe
Needs more power
Jeff Alcorn my 2012 Limited Edition 10 the Anniversary Knight Rod Special is 137 HP, I think these new bikes are gonna surprise a lot of people
Randy Hutchinson A stock Ducati diavel is 162hp and a stock KTM superduke is 177hp. Both bikes with a nice upright riding position. This FXDR is 119 pounds of torque and dang thing still weighs almost 650pounds
Happy I bought an x diavel.....typical HD, all noise no power
My first bike was a 1969 Harley Davidson Rapido. I drove it 23,000+ miles on the first year. But, Harley still makes the best looking bike. The Japanese Harley copies just don't have what it takes to make the bike absolutely beautiful. Even so, I still ride my old 1972 CB750 Honda, it's great and easy to work on. I'm an old guy now, but still ride and love every minute of it.
For all of you that say this is the end of HD because of this bike, it isn't. If this bike doesn't suite you then all that means is that you are not the target customer. If you want HD to survive and continue making the traditional bikes we love, then they have to branch out and target different tastes (customer base) in order to survive. HD isn't going to dump their traditional line of bikes.
Kevin Flanders The new bike buyers of today are dumping the traditional line. Even a old farmer can see that. The old hippies are done buying motorcycles.
Naysayers have been predicting Harley’s demise longer than most of these posters have been alive. Yet Harley hangs on. And is likely to continue.
HD as a company has plummeted. This whole year their stock has straight dropped in value. They are in desperate need of new buyers, and this new line up they brought out was suppose to bring in those new buyers. These bikes are heavy, slow, EXPENSIVE and not the most appealing. Almost every motorcycle manufacturer makes cruiser style bikes with a lot more power and affordability. HD is axing themselves at this point. They failed to evolve as a company.
I actually like the bike, I think it looks cool. But the performance and price are just so far off the mark that it's laughable! I don't want HD to fail, I want them to build a bike that competes with other bikes in this class that I can buy with confidence. I couldn't buy this bike with confidence.
Designer: "How much plastic should we use?"
Harley: "Yes."
The last awesome looking design was the V-Rod... IMHO. It looked good, and it rode good (from what I've heard/read).
2thePtBassTuT yeah my night rod special with Vance’s and Hines pipe was around 120hp this Batman bike makes me laugh 😂 less horse power more money 😂
I have an 03 vrod with a scratch built turbo system. Bone stock engine on 9psi boost. Put down 154rwhp around 170 at crank. Bike has 18k turbo miles. ZERO problems. ZERO. Fukrs are built like a workhorse. And guess who started design on that Engine before harley hi jacked it...Buell. was already designing it in the mid to late 90s.
@Theodore Marakas actually Erik buell designed the engine in the 90s. Harley then gave it to Porsche to fine tune where they added 30lbs plus bulk to the engine to put it on the vrod frame. The engine was going to b used in the xb series bikes initially but hd hijacked it n didn't allow buell to use it. There is a lot of things he did the public doesn't know. He even had a 450 super moto/dirtbike style engine that they built that harley also scrapped.
@Theodore Marakas ruclips.net/video/0QKBSUOI7EQ/видео.html hopefully some day someone makes a good documentary on Erik and more of this information will b public knowledge.
The V-Rod Muscle is the best looking V-Rod series Harley made. It was a awesome bike. I had but unfortunately had to sell. That pretty much the only Harley I would buy only because I like the performance as well as looks of the bike. I'll eventually will get another but it will be a used one because Harley canceled it.
Looks like a lot of inspiration from the Ducati Diavel to me.
Glad to see Harley stepping out of there comfort zone to appeal to new riders. I am even happier knowing that traditional bikes are still available. I can't get onboard with the looks.
And the award for the most confusing comment goes to David lol. I can´t tell if this is a positive comment or sarcastic or what.
I love the V-ROD but this is the “Evolution” of the V-Rod introducing the 2019 HD FXDR🎯
Nice bike, it’s just too much money for what it is. Not sure who their target customer would be with this model. Put it in the $15000 range and you might have something. Just seeing these sitting on dealer floors as leftovers going into the next model year.
same price as my 2018 Ducati Panigale V4S !!!
One half hearted Vrod replacement coming up!
i felt the same way. mid teens feels more reasonable if not a touring bike. i'll spend over 20k when i can take my wife on a long ride with me.
Absolutely fugly. The Diavel X slays this is appearance, lean angles, braking, HP, essentially any measure of performance or anybody with eyes can tell the Diavel X would bury this and beleive it or not it will probably be cheaper.
You are absolutely correct! Harley needs to stop putting a price point many thousands of dollars more than comparable bikes. Too expensive for the average guy!
Man, why so many negative comments all over YT for this bike? I personally find it gorgeous...amazingly beautiful design. Hell i may even consider buying one when they appear at my dealership.
2018 Triumph Rocket Roadster is another great option in the power cruiser category. MSRP starts at $15,700. Can be purchased for less. It’s comfortable, powerful, handles well for its size and sounds great stock. I purchased a new left over 2014 Honda Valkyrie for approximately 50% off the $17,999 MSRP. An awesome bike that’s super reliable, handles like a dream and is unique. I rarely see one on the road. Highly recommended.
Pitts S2C, the Rocket III is a beast! It’s really one of the only bikes I would buy other than a new Road Glide. I haven’t seen a Moto Guzzi Flying Fortress in person yet but the pictures of it look cool.
Awesome bike! Great styling to help bring air cooled twins up to date. Can’t wait for the upcoming models!
PRICED LIKE A DIAVEL AND VMAX BUT 5X SLOWER THAN THEM. CMON HD! I love the looks of this bike BUT this is one of the largest displacement bikes that is somehow the absolute slowest bike on the market (in its respective 2019 class) and commands one of the most expensive prices. This bike is likely not class leading at anything (braking/hp/tq/handling/weight/ MPG/ suspension/ price/reliability which is TBD). You have to buy a Stage 1/2/3/4 performance kit and even then it still could not keep up with any of the bikes in it's current 2019 class. Vmax and Diavel destroy this bike in every aspect. This bike needed to be $16K/$17K USD MAX but instead carries the 30% HD price premium. An old 2000 1300CC Vmax would still destroy this bike today which is sad.
LOL preach it!
@Matt M. one guy commented on another video I commented on wondering why I was comparing a "Cruiser" (FXDR) with a "Sport bike"?
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't they show this FXDR on a race track doing twisties etc? To me that's sport bike worthy and NOT a cruiser bike! Additionally, I dont think a Diavel is a Sport bike and is very much a cruiser. To me BOTH of them are cruisers with the Diavel being hands down a FAR superior bike to the FXDR thing.
Don't discredit the vmax! Still a great bike in it's own right. Diavel and Vmax are a sporty power cruiser.
@@mobgma in your professional opinion would you consider this new FXDR a "sporty power cruiser"?
VMAX IS WALKING ALONE...why so much money?
Straight from the Lead-Designer for the 2019 HD FXDR M8 Dragster!
Harley has learned absolutely nothing from all their losses in the past several years.
Cigar Obsession I think they have. They just announced a street fighter, an adventure bike, and an electric bike as well. They are entering lots of new markets and further solidifying their hold over the heavy cruiser market with a new Softail model and updates to the touring bikes.
Nope they have not! Even when they get the new bikes out they won't compete with companies like KTM and Ducati who are making 177hp from a 1290 VTwin
Brandon Taylor - horse power is not the be all end all.
leward18 No power to weight ratio is. Hence the reason I put two bikes that are big twins with lighter weight and big torque numbers. It's the combo of torque and HP that make those bikes so dominant. Diavels walk 1000cc super sports up to 100 mph because of the way they make power.
They are just as ugly as these abortions.
I ride a HD 2012 Night-Rod-Muscle. It is a blast when I want an adrenaline rush, and comfortable (for me) to ride long distance just unwinding from stress.
Inspiration from the drag team is not necessarily a good thing. That big 'ol air box
sitting along side the tank is ridiculous.
Matt, you do great work for all those who like me can only wish could be there. Thanks brother!
Cool looking bike but not affordable for the average Joe.
you need to be a rich lawyer or a drug dealer to buy a harley now.
Nathan Taylor sorry, but the average guy can’t afford these new ugly bikes. Not one person I ride with can buy new and the majority have bikes that are 10 years old or more. When a bike costs the same as a car brand new it’s a problem.
@@niconjones Harley is selling to a niche market filled with wealthy weekend warrior lawyers and successful drug dealers.
@Nathan Taylor did you buy it with cash or finance?
@Nathan Taylor An average guy as in a blue collar worker? Did you pay cash or finance? No one I know can afford to spend 20k on a bike.
Thanks for the video matt. Can't wait to watch the test ride video
I'll take a Yamaha VMAX. High performance stock for a lot less money.
I'm going to have to agree you. WTF are the execs thinking pricing it like they are. It's cool, appealing to the younger crowd but none of them will be able to afford it!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did i miss something last time i checked the vmax was the same price their both expensive so buy what you like amd let other ppl choose for themselves
Yamaha VMAX 17,999 MSRP. FXDR 114 starts at $21,349. I was quoted $16,000 plus tax, title, license for a new 2018 Vmax earlier this year.
@@pittss2c601
Vmax msrp is 18500 so if your being quoted 16k it's because they don't sell so they're trying to get it moved silver eagle in waterloo had to sell the vmax they had that sat for two years for 15k to get rid of it and if your being realistic about buying something that expensive you'll buy what you want not what's cheaper if you're talking about what's cheaper it's because you can't really afford what you want i know this from experience i only cared about price point when i was broke.
Roger Burns - well said 👏🏽
That cover behind the seat begs to be dropped and/or lost, just in the daily process of getting into the storage under it. It would be simple to make it easily flip open and closed on a hinge, and still be removable, as you would go about fastening down the pillion.
What's it been, three days? This thing is starting to grow on me :) Really want to ride one up here in the Cascade curves and twisties. Matt, would love to see you do some canyon carving with it. I think that will be the make/break test of these things. Looking forward to your views and impressions. Thanks again for taking us along with you to the dealer show.
I'm going to try and take this one on some twisties
Fat Bob please
Way to go Harley Engineers you are killing a legend
Harley is a dying brand in America, Harley needs to stop asking premium prices on their bikes, as you are not getting what you pay for. I dont care about the brand, I just want a good quality machine for a reasonable price instead of being sold a lifestyle.
I cant even walk into a HD dealership to simply look at the lineup without being sales pitched by 3 or 4 guys. Theyre so pressured by management to make sales. HD of scottsdale is terrible for this. HD will be bankrupt in under 15 years.
Harley is far from being a dying brand in America. They still sell more bikes in America than any other bike maker in the world, and you actually get a lot for what you pay for! The quality is topnotch and even your average Harley is waaaayyyy more impressive looking than anything else on the road.
I live down here in San Antonio, Texas, and all you see down here in Texas are Harley's (unless it's a Sport bike). I don't think I've ever even seen a Goldwing down here lol. And Texas buys more bikes than 95% of the country!
And as far as pricing goes, well they're pretty much the same as a BMW or a Ducati, and sorry, but BMW bikes are just as overrated as their cars; filled with electronic issues and ridiculous maintenance costs! Ducati maintenance costs are even worse!
Sorry, but I'll stick with Harley. You just can't beat the style, the sound, and the quality!
I don't think they will go bankrupt coz hd is selling world wide and a lot of demand In INDIA too lot of people are moving towards the Harley Davidson even my self planning to buy one I didn't understand why you gays so anti hd
Garden Of Eatin .. i wonder if it has something to do with wall st and the investors ?
John Madsen well how in the fuck do you think they can sell a bike for cheap with paying union wages? Lots of overhead and still has to meet shareholder value. If you’re pulling wheelies then buy the damn parts to race it.
Harley Davidson is making machines which is reaching the young market, that is in my opinion humbly.
Thanks Matt this was very new to me and surprising. I've been riding 49 years and have owned a cross section of brands including a couple Harley but consider myself a Triumph guy now. So what I wanted to see is more in line with: classic appearance, great handling, weight below 500 pounds, competitive performance and pricing well below 20K.
I don't know what market research says but I don't think plastic covered cartoonish styled bikes that aren't practical and probably at the low end of performance and high end of pricing will be a winning formula. I don't hang with the Harley crowd but I don't imagine they will be happy. I wanted to like these bikes because Harley is trying but it is hard to argue with those negative comments below......sorry.
From the V-Rod to this? ...they can't be serious.
I thought this was some entry level low budget bike until I saw the motor size. What a turd.
@@jayquan3307 Indeed! ...it is quite a lump of metal!
Fxdr 114 is a dream come true bike . Fxdr 114 is the proof that Harley davidson will do much better bikes in the future . Fxdr 114 is the best of the best so far for long rides along the sea coast and on the mountains . Fxdr 114 is the bike harley davidson made it for me to buy .
HI I'm the Harley designer ----- Here we have the new copy of the Yamaha Warrior.
And not even a good copy. The warrior looks much better imo and would smoke this Harley. I guess the days of Harley being a class of motorcycle all their own are over and now they are trying to copy the other companies designs.
Hi Matt, I think Harley has worked the v-twin configuration for all it's worth. I think they need to think of other configurations, as BMW had to break away from the opposed -twin layout. I think HD needs to experiment with flat, opposed multis (to knock out the Goldwing), a 90-degree longitudinal twin, maybe even a liquid-cooled square four (like Ariel). Also, tackle Triumph with a triple. And Royal Enfield with high-quality long-stroke 350 & 500 singles for the Indian market.
You're the man with his nose to the ground, so I would love to hear your say.
Can't wait to smoke one of these on my 1985 V65 Magna 💪🇨🇱👊💥
Them old Magna's had a whole lot of haul ass when you cranked on the throttle ! Quick bikes. I would hold on to that if I were you.
Ill never let it go I mowed a million yards back in the 80's as a kid to buy it new
TejasToolMan
V65 Lol those are slow I had 1985 VMax it was no comparison. I ride Harley’s now and I couldn’t be happier.
@@alanwhiteside410ok, just make sure you stay in the slow lane where you belong please ;)
TejasToolMan
Oh I will just stay out of my way!
I’ll stick with my 02 vtx1800. Good luck Harley y’all gonna need it!
Nice bike but I'll stick with my Street Glide..with a upgraded suspension😂...👊🇺🇸👊
Me too. That bike looks like Yamaha V-Max meets Dyna Wide Glide
Guy I ride with a few times, had to ride a demo bike all summer because his new cvo 114 that he paid a fortune for had a motor failure, never told me what the problem was, too proud for that, just that Harley had to examine the motor, so they gave hime a deal on a new one think with the 107, don’t know if this is a common problem, don’t know a lot of people that ride with this block
Two 👎🏻👎🏻 for this bike. What the hell are the people at Harley thinking? Especially for the price.
powerman1972 looks like a lot of plastic on it 😫 no thanks
powerman1972 They’re not thinking that’s the problem. The people that build these things cannot afford them so who else could? Harley executives don’t understand what they are selling is a blue collar product. Sell the damn things at the blue collar average wage of $15 per hour.
powerman1972
Agree
HD High Dollar soon as you get one you have to buy exhaust, air filter and tuner just for it to run half decent
Yeah i threw up in my mouth a little when they unveiled the bike then shit myself when they told the price of it. Swing and a miss HD.
I can see the first task for every owner is how to gut out the mufflers. I wonder why HD even bothers to put baffles in those things.
An Harley version of a Ducati Diavel. I like it, but would rather have the Ducati.
yes i agree, the ducati is WAY more powerful
Also probably needs about 30-40 more hp than it has (if I recall the 114 has about 90hp bone stock). They really should just make the stage 2 kit the stock setup on the M8. I test rode a Sport Glide with the 107 and it felt like the motor was very restricted and that there was a lot more power to be had.
Thanks for the vid. Interesting bike, but I will stick with my Yamaha Road Star Warrior!
Warriorb I agree with you 100% me to
Well done, Harley, I like it. Modern, classic.
I think I like the dominion version better.I will stick with my 2017 FXDL.Last of the sweet heart dynas.
My Dealer gave me $15.5 for my LowRider.S, and I ordered this Beast “Vivid Black” , getting that much for a Trade from a Dealer, tells me, someone really wanted the last, Best Dyna.
But I needed to step up, plus the 110 ran so Damn Hot, I needed that M8 👍🇺🇸👍
NO, it looks completely ridiculous.
My $7000 Yamaha Raider had this technology 10 yrs ago. My Raider would kill it!
This is the bike equivalent of "The Homer", R.I.P. Harley Davidson.
The more I look at h/d bikes the more I love my old xs 650, my beloved cb 750 and my kz 750........
So glad I sunk my money into a VROD, it’ll be the only HD I’ll ever need to own before the company becomes extinct ☠️
Same thing i did)
That actually looks pretty comfortable.
Someone needs to be fired
We had to ride 700cc 750's in the mid 80's so Harley could eventually over charge for product and produce this ill conceived 'vision'? I think RR's Alzheimers was in play earlier than people think or care to admit.
I want this in Tanzania how am going too have?
@@lusekelomtafya894 Get a group of your friends together acquire a small boat with a motor -Arm yourselves with AK-47's then approach a passing cargo ship and pretend you are a welcoming committee Hope there isnt armed security on board..
They already fired me!
@Fred Likely not to everyone, I'm sure.
Another nice video, very informative. Thanks!
id be embarrased to ride that in daylight without a helmet
real pipes and it would be really cool
People saying this looks ugly forget that this is not a bike aimed for them. This is a bike aimed at the younger crowd that consider buying something like a diavel. The styling makes sense, its modern and aggressive.
Looks like a vrod screwed a victory. It'll be a flop
Great looking bike! I absolutely love that accessorized model. I think a side mount plate and some little under fender mini led signals and brake light would suit it perfectly. Victory wooed me away with their Hammer muscle cruiser but I tjink the new softail and in particular this FXDR will have me back on HD again one day.
Performance bike....hahahaha
For 21k buy a zx14 with several grand in mods....not even close harley, your engineers are 30 years behind
man no kidding. You got a 14? I dumped my harley and got and 14R. Love it!
Well said, even a old man can see this. There are plenty of bikes much older that would be a better ride.
Hingle McCringleberry Then buy gold. But most people buy a motorcycle to ride.
Hingle McCringleberry that’s not what I am seeing. Performance is what these young riders are after. HD needs to stop building new bikes with old parts.
Road king still great bike.
The Dealer in Coos Bay Oregon has one marked down into the 17’s.
this is by far the ugliest harley davidson motorcycle they've built... wow!
I afraid I dissapoint you, harley made more ugly bikes, f.e. rocker c and some others
The rocker C is a special kind of ugly. a very ugly kind of ugly.
James Mike not really, out of the things they could have done. It’s really not that bad
Agree
The rear is futuristic in the design but they had to give it a front design that was complementary to the rear. It looks so cheap and amateur in the design. It's terrible. I will never want to be known as the owner of that bike. It's like buying a SsangYong Muso.
so glad I bought a 2017 CVO breakout!
Guy talks performance for 6 mins and doesn't mention weight,hp,or torque lol. Also you shouldn't have to pay more for passenger seat and pegs. A 240 rear tire sucks for handling too.
It has been 2 years, now seeing more smooth running high reving v4’s. Harley working on V4?
POWER cruiser? Aahhhahaha! Lmao!
It looks like the motor company hit a homerun with this one Matt, good luck with the sales of the new FXDR. Hopefully you got a bunch on order.
Its badass but it's way too expensive you can buy a faster dyna or fxr for less.
Bryan Eich faster ???
@@randyhutchinson9910 yes faster. More torque.
Bryan Eich you've turned me on, no FAIR!!!
Need to bring the tail section back more and mount taillight and tag to that.
It's great harley wants to target new riders that are wealthy lawyers and successful drug dealers but if they are targeting young riders who cant afford these bikes then they have smoked too many you know what !!!
The only way a young rider could afford these bikes if they had good credit history but if they buy this bike with less than 50% cash they will be in bad debt after 2 years of owning these bikes on finance infact they will be bankrupt or forced to commit insurance fraud to get out of the debts because of the resale value and used market.
The thing that will hurt all young riders who buy bikes on finance is sketchy dealers trying to rip them off when it comes to trade-in while the bike is still under finance - that will be the killer of young riders.
i used to work in the industry where i see so many young kids go bankrupt trying to own something they cant afford - taking out finance is killer of all young kids - bankruptcy has increased 350% with young kids taking out finance on phones cars and bikes the past couple of years.
Steven; Man, that's harsh but probably pretty right-on. I guess that's the bitter truth that comes with the predatory corporate business-model in the present poised-on-the-edge dystopian neorealism economic-political condition where nothing is as it appears, where the pop culture emphasizes brash and bold exceptionalism, where market-share competition is brutal, and which breeds a valiant nihilism recklessness.
In this 2-wheel buyers market, for $15-20K, a prudent, common-sense fella can buy 3 or more exceptionally fine low-mile used bikes, and count on keeping and riding em for 50-100,000 reliable, mostly painless and smile-filled miles.
thats why they make sportsters and 750s lol
It is obvious their customers are mostly wealthy tattooed drug dealers :(
To be fair, the Sportsters are more sensibly priced for people that don't want to spend this sort of money.
Man, this bike is bad ass. I’ll take a vivid black with the 117 upgrade please.
The harley design team should be fired.
Yes
I love the New FXDR cant wait for the test ride! Might even get one myself lol
Who designed this shit, a five year old? All I see is acres of plastic and parts which seem to be bolted on at random. Harley have become a laughing stock.
Thanks for your awesome videos.
That’s thing is rad I like it 😎🤘
Finally! A Harley for me!
Very disappointed.....again. Too much for what you get. You want to give HD the chance but you just can not !!!! HD........Why so much for a basic simple machine??? We are all, do not have extra dollars in the bank. What the hell are they thinking about ???? 30% of all household families have around 2500.00 in the bank or LESS. Who are they targeting ? No wonder what Japaneses bike companies do soooo well in the US. STUPID mentality.
Al P you are right I will stick with my 2018 Kawasaki z 900 RS would like to see someone try to hang with me on one of those new HD
Love the shape.
Everything about this bike says "my penis is tiny". Just like the last generation of Ford and Chev pickups.
then I need one for the sake of honesty
Mine is, so I need a recent Ford or Chevy
i like that they left the option to put std handle bars on but i wonder what you could put on there that wouldn't obscure the instruments.
33 degrees of lein angle definatly a freemason bike
Now what you need is a new Terminator movie featuring one of these bikes! That'l kick start sales boys!
This bike is hideous. Whoever they have designing the new Harley’s should be fired. Looks like something that would come from OCC not Harley.
I ride and race a 1700 VMAX , the quality of build is outstanding. I've looked at Harley"s and they have a long way to go to understand the meaning of quality rather than 'Quantity' .
Still got that weak air cooled engine. Come on and build a high performance liquid cooled engine. So glad my Harley is gone!
Brandon Taylor He clearly said it was oil cooled.
Cam White Oil cooled is basically still air cooled. it's just air moving across the oil cooler. You sit in traffic and you will see 350+ degree engine temps. Oil cooling has no comparison with liquid cooled engines where temps can be maintained within 5 degrees. the tighter you can control temp the tighter the engine tolerances and more power. That oil cooled engine has to take temps up to 350+ so tolerances have to be loose so metal has room to swell. If the ring gap is tight it will stick a ring and break a rod or destroy a piston and cylinder.
Yea that's pretty disappointing, just when I was having faith in Harleys new lineup they still fall back into the same nonsense that keeps them behind the pack. Hopefully the street fighter will make an exception.
They did it's was called the v rod.
Jospeh Moore Actually Porshe built that engine not Harley.
I'll just keep enjoying my 06 Night Train with Ness wheels.
Looks like an Yamaha Vmax combined with an Kawasaki Vulcan👎
Matt does the factory ever ask the dealers what they think will sell. Or what your customers want. Thanks keep up the good work.
Face the facts, young people don't want to be affiliated with the "Harley image". Embarrassingly loud pipes, village people costumes, tough guy scowl on fat, bloated faces. That South Park episode is exactly how Harley riders are perceived by everyone except other Harley riders.
Lou Wrote all the cutdowns not already seen on a cartoon. Lou, you really need to cut down on cartoon watching!
JDubya Adams hahaha!!!
And old people don't want to be affiliated with effeminate, skinny jean wearing, cartoon watching, dangerous show- offs whose bikes sound like a nest of bees .
What a great episode.... vroom, vroom.. lol.. The F word....
Lou Manning
Lol Lou go back to watching your cheap cartoons you must live in a fantasy. Also it’s a known fact young people don’t know shit and they don’t want to work ask anybody who’s in their 40’s or 50’s about the younger people they have to work with. It’s sad our young people are this way! 🙄
Within 30 seconds I ran out of fingers counting the amount of changes I would need to make to it!
It's actually hurting my eyes.. 👎🏽
Who ever is designing these bikes needs to get a job at Suzuki
Finally a modern looking bike from the old tractor farm. I gave up my harleys years ago, maybe I'll be back.
Ha Haha Harley now make the ugliest, over priced, lowest horse power rubbish on two wheels.
If you compare Harley Davidson to any other motorcycle brand harley davidson will always look 100 year advanced than them. No doubt Harley Davidson is a one hell of a motorcycle brand.
Good looking modern styling... very late in the game guys, but better late than never! However, the real question is will HD bring more power with less weight for better handling finally?
Looking good bike, let’s see After the test drive
This Crazy Nice Harley Will do my best To have it for next summer🤞
Fxdr 114 is cool thrill joy good beautiful light not so heavy easy to handle . Fxdr 114 is a real bike . I want fxdr 114 . Fxdr 114 makes me want to have it . Fxdr 114 is the best bike harley davidson has . Yes it is fxdr 114
Hopefully HD takes another try at this in the future. Needs 140bhp though or don’t bother.
I wonder what the production cost of this bike is and where the final assembly was taking place at?
Good job Harley, at least one person likes it. Too bad it’s so small or I’d buy one. But my RGS fits just fine, guess I’ll keep it.
Bikes they're building now will definitely keep the used Harley market strong.