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Martin Sheen's Uncle fought against the rise of Fascism in Spain!
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- Sheen's uncle Matîas had made efforts to stop the coup d'état at the beginning of the Spanish Civil War. He was arrested and charged with military rebellion by a military tribunal, even though Franco's group were not the legitimate government. The tribunal condemned Matías to life imprisonment.
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I am Spanish, and I am Galician, and I have always admired Martin Sheen (real name Ramón Estevez). He is proud of his origins and of his father's name, and he visits our homeland regularly.
From what I understand, 'Martin Sheen' is truly a stage name and that all of his identification, including passports and drivers license remains Ramón Estevez. He accepts that people call him Martin, but he is still Ramón.
Make that: Ramón Estéves. His uncle was steeped in luck to get released after serving only four years in prisons and being under house arrest with a loving family for emotional support is not so bad. So many of Franco's enemies, including scores of innocent children, lost their lives.
He could be proud of whatever you want, but i don't understand why he doesn't speak any Spanish...
@@davidalons0 It's natural, given that he was born in the USA where he grew up.
@@davidalons0 Yes, that's right. He doesn't speak Spanish, and I don't understand either. Laziness? His sister, a retired teacher, moved from the U.S. to Galicia years ago, and she speaks Spanish perfectly.
Irishman here.....so proud of Ramon's ancestors,they,Galicians and Gaelic,fighting for the common man.💚👍💚
Galicians are the Spanish version of Gaelics, the Celtiberians.
@@tedfebo1741No. The celtiberians were the Lusitanians and another tribes in Iberia. The Galaecians were just celtics.
@@wandson5410 los gallegos son celtiberos(igual que los castellanos, asturianos,cantabros etc...) , no son unicamente celtas
@@MaxMax-me5gvrecuerden que Galicia fue poblada también por los Suevos tras la caída del imperio romano. Los Suevos eran tribus germanicas
@@Vamosalla-fi6yu minorias , como los visigodos en espana , geneticamente los gallegos no diferencian de los demas europeos
The Spanish Civil War didn't start in Galicia, it started in Melilla, North Africa, on 17 July 1936.
Of course
Correcto
Just a quick historical clarification: the war didn't start in Galicia (northwest Spain, north of Portugal), but in the Spanish-controlled northern Morocco and, from there, to the south of Spain. Galicia, as a matter of fact, was one of the first regions to be controlled by Francoist troops, there were minor skirmishes in the region, but nothing major. Matias, as a member of the Communist Party, would have been incarcerated during the summer of 1936.
He flew on July 16th 1936 to Morocco from Tenerife where he held the General Captaincy of the Canary Islands.
My uncle and father escaped from Asturias and made their way to Cuba, waiting to have a chance to enter the U.S., which they did after WWII.
Have you visited Asturias? It´s a beautiful land
@@xalau5270 I've never been there but I've seen photographs and yes it is beautiful.
A true CELTIC warrior background. Irish and Galician. Incredible family story👏👏👏
Brave Galicians !!! Brave Irish !!!
Gallegos
@@marioceva7163
Es la traducción, melón.
@@kilt825 obvio melon.
I know Spain has a lot of different influences from the Visigoth Germanic and ummayad North African in the south. And of course the Roman /Latin influence. But isn’t northern Spain and Portugal populations come from Celtic cultures and Celt Iberian tribes that intermarried celts ? My point is not Matter what Martin is still Celtic and it reflects in the way he looks
@@UnbrokenWillll actually Galicia isnt the celtiest region of Spain. the inner and center spain was, if arqueologists, historians and linguistics are right, more connected to the celtic continental world (France, Germany, northern italy....) BUT its true that northern Spain has a genetic link to the british isles dating back to prehistoric times. (being settlers from Spain the first ones to get there some thousand of years BC) at least, thats what DNA studies suggest. everything is quite an incredible thing.
That relative looks like Emilio, Martins Son.
I just think the world of Martin Sheen. So sorry his uncle suffered, as so many others did.
You can see Emilio in Martin Cheens uncle.. strong genes..
My thoughts as well
Agreed. I had the same thought. Lol
Sheen
Yes,you are so right. I didn’t realize until you said so.
I spelt his last name wrong. Don't know why I put a C, ? Brain fog.. 😆
Interesting that both sides of Martins's family were fighting for freedom, it's obvious where Martin got his bravery from .
Freedom? Freedom was in the other side. Unless you think freedom is in Popular China and not in Taiwan... facts vs propaganda.
@@alfredodistefanolaulhe2212 Of course, a fascist doesn't like a democratically elected regime!
@@alfredodistefanolaulhe2212 let's see, against fascism and against the suppression or ursupation of democratic self determination. Yeah nah you're talking out of your hole.
@@BrandonjSlippingAway Blablabla, what kind of freedom you see in North Korea? That's the leftist type of freedom. You have Popular China, there was a Civil War and the chinese liberals won the war against the conservative faction. And what happened? They got 80 years of communist dictatorship. On the other hand you have Taiwan, where the conservative chinese faction is exiled. And what you have there? A democracy, just like in South Korea.
Facts vs myths.
1) The Spanish Republic was not communist and had a plurality of leftwing ideologies supporting it.
2) The government was democratically elected.
3) Your selection bias ignores all the right wing military juntas installed and propped up with (principally) U.S support across Latin America among others.
4) This post is about both serving the IRA and international brigades and both had a democratic mandate (Sinn Féin's crushing 1918 election victory where their party platform was declaring independence, and foreign volunteers defending the elected sitting government of the Spanish Republic vs a rightwing authoritarian, materially supported by the Nazis.)
Your bad faith arguments are just pathetic. There's a reason the Spanish right wing try their best to keep the skeletons in the closet of Francoists buried.
Martin can be truly proud of his two uncles who fought for freedom against fascism.
Error...sus dos tíos lucharon en el bando de los comunistas de Stalin...la segunda república española no era para nada democrática...se impuso por un golpe de estado, estaba diseñada para que la derecha no pudiera nunca gobernar, se llevó a cabo una terrible persecución contra cualquiera que no fuera izquierdista, se asesinaba a políticos de la oposición, a miles de sacerdotes y monjas...era un régimen dirigido por partidos socialistas y comunistas directamente dependientes de Stalin.
Considering how catholic Martin sheen is, I doubt he is proud. The commies killed many priests, nuns, desecrated churches..killed Catholics because they were Catholics…they are considered martyrs …The persecution was awful and was directed by Freemasons.
It’s sad how the propaganda continues to brainwash many people’s mind. Same thing with the French Revolution and the Russian revolution. Now you see who is in power - the Freemasons.
What they were fighting for was not freedom.
The Spanish Civil War was fascism vs. communism.
At least one of them as a communist for the Stalinist Popular Front, nothing to be proud of, much like those on the other side with blood on their hands.
fascists won in spain
What great DNA has Martin Sheen!
What a fantastic story. 👍🏼
One of my favorite actors in history. I have known for years that he has Spanish and Irish roots. 😀
I have looked for what Attenuated Prison means and in the RAE (Royal Academy of the Spanish Language) it says Attenuated Prison, it is a type of provisional detention consisting of the fact that the deprivation of liberty of the accused is verified at his home, with the surveillance measures that are necessary, when due to illness the internment entails a serious danger to their health.
Bravo to your uncle Matías Estevez Martínez for fighting against fascism 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Most people don't know the connection Eire ànd Galicia have,
My Grandfather and his brother was among the American Volunteers of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade. Grandpa came home his brother Albert was captured and executed by the Italian blackshirts at the Ebro.
You can be proud of them. Thank you from Spain.
@@AlejandroLopez-ed8kj they’re my hero’s. Someday we will find Albert and have the decision to bring him home or let him lay.
@@SeanRCope I'm so sorry about Albert's dead, he really suffered a lot, I wish someday you with your family can come here to take him home, I am very glad that your grandpa survived I hope he have been enjoying a happy and peaceful life with his wife, children and grandchildren, tell him that he will always welcomed here in Spain
So you grandpa was a traitor too
@@hernandemornay7559 And your wheel is turning, but the hamster is dead!
His ancestor Matias The Uncle battled the great beast fascism.
He was a soldier against all that was evil dictatorship, against the scourge against Humanity.
He was a communist. Different side of the same coin.
He appears to have been a militia man for the murderous Popular Front. Not a badge of honour in the least.
History has definitely repeated itself!
Why does the narrator say the Spanish Civil War started in Galicia? Not much at all happened there.
The Army there supported the coup from the first moment, I suppose that's what they meant.
When I close my eyes, I hear the Illusive Man. What an iconic person Mr. Sheen is.
Charlie looks just like his aunt Carmen!
Preguntó?la tía Carmen es hermana de este actor Y vive en España...?
@@carmendelucas9324asi parece
Both is Irish and Spanish blood is flowing with revolutionary vervour! Respect!
That was decades and centuries ago, now the spanish people are sheeple. In the 19th century we defeated Napoleon, but today the Spanish are a people without blood or initiative that swallows all the lies of the media and the state and submissively obeys.
Galician and Irish blood is the same... they are the same people. Spanish are mainly "Celtiberos", but Galicians are 100% Celtic like the Irish.
@@jamesthefirst8790 There's some distant relation but they're not genetically exactly the same as you state
@@aldozilli1293Europeans are genetically basically the same, differences are minimum, that's why when they mix, their children can look from whatever of both countries. If an Irish person and a Spanish person marry, they can have children who look like native of whatever of both countries, that happens usually between European countries. Looking at pics of his Spanish ancestor, he looks similar to him, and he resembles a lot his Spanish father too, but he can pass as Irish too
@@maritta01 also in Galicia there are generally more blonder blue eyed people than the rest of Spain
The first Spaniard president of the United States
And the third Irish one too!
That's a good one! :0)
Yes, Irish communists fought against the Fascists during the Spanish civil war, Fine Gael, Michael Collins political party fought on the Fascist side
Fine Gael didn't even exist when Collins died. You can blame it mostly on that fascist wannabe and alcoholic O'Duffy, and the church for its red scare.
In the Spanish Civil War, you either fought for Communism or Fascism. Makes sense that his uncle was Red. He is.
What an amazing story
Martin Sheen's uncle was a hero!
And a communist too!
JUST WOW
I think "Prisión atenuada" means "to be on parole"
In the RAE (Royal Academy of the Spanish Language) it says Attenuated Prison, it is a type of provisional detention consisting of the fact that the deprivation of liberty of the accused is verified at his home, with the surveillance measures that are necessary, when for reasons of illness the hospitalization entails serious danger to his health.
Sí pero tú dices la traducción directa ¿No?¿Existe la categoría " atenuated prisson" como tal en el sistema legal estadounidense o se llama de otra forma?.
Yo sospecho que "Parole " es el equivalente más cercano en inglés jurídico y por tanto sería la traducción más razonable
@@Nachscrach La categoria en el sistema legal estadounidense vendria a ser dimmed prisson.
@@Nachscrach No, porque "parole" no implica arresto domiciliario.
So interesting! Such marvelous stories
Wars are horrible. People from all sides suffer. This video though, makes it look as if everything was Ok during the Republic and that suddenly the civil war broke out. If you want to tell the truth, tell the whole truth.
You are so right!
He must be proud of his relative. He was a fighter.
An outlaw member of the Popular Front militia, by the looks of it. Not much to be proud of.
Yes, he must be proud of him... even if he was fighting for the wrong cause... the "Dictatorship of the Proletariat".
@@jamesthefirst8790 that’s just your opinion! ( wrong in my opinion) irrelevant in both cases.
The Spanish civil war was highly complex. Read up on it first before you decide on the good guy vs bad guy simplified narrative.
Well said.
Who made a coup against a democracy that resulted in 3 years of war and atrocities? who then established a 40 year long dictatorship? The conflict and it's origins are indeed very complex, but don't use it as an excuse for fascism and oppression.
@@Kwijiboz Those atrocities that you mentioned were on both sides. More than 6,000 innocent priests and nuns were killed by the Republican side many of which have been canonized and beatified. The Republican side also burned many churches that were posing no threat to anyone.
@@Kwijiboz it didn't start with a coup. And don't use it as an excuse to beatify communists.
@@Kwijiboz the II Spanish Republic was established after municipal elections, of which there was no total vote count. It is not the best way to legitimize a democracy. That is to say, the Second Republic was established when there was already democracy, what existed before was a parliamentary monarchy...democratic.
As for the Second Republic itself, at the end of the war, the government was as democratic as they were the Francoist but at the opposite end of the political spectrum from those days. A total disaster when the two strong options are totally extreme.
This is not as simple as saying some were good and others were bad, so I agree with whoever said that. By the way, my paternal grandfather was an anarchist and my maternal grandfather was a Carlist in that war.
Celtic blood from both sides: Irish and Galician.
Good on all those who bravely stood against the scourge of fascism. ¡No pasarán!
And lost
It was not fascism, what we had in Spain was a different ideology.
@@leatherandtactel Fascism applies to it whether you like it or not! If the definition of the word satisfies the criteria, then it's Fascism.
@Miguel Rey no, that wasn't fascism, just a bunch of lovely people, whose gracious actions were misunderstood just because they killed and jailed thousands of people who believed in democracy even after the war was over.
@@wthwasthat8884 Don't be nervous. It was not fascism because this ideology is exclusive to Italy, it did not occur in any other country. What we had here was an ideology influenced by fascism, but it was not fascism. Not even "Falange", the party closest to fascism, was a fascist party.
Let's not forget the volunteers for the Spanish Republic from Ireland, Wales , Scotland and England in the mid & late 1930s
Spanish and Irish ancestry - What could be more lethal?
Estevez!
I just visit San Simon island ( very small island ) very lucky leaving that place alive.
Should people from all over the world form an international brigade in the U.S. and fight the 100m fascists there?
Or you could implement a better school system that doesn't create illiterate idiots unable to think for themselves.
@ 1:44 His grandmother looked like Charlie!
Es curioso pq tanto gallegos como Irlandeses tienen el mismo origen celta.
Hay investigaciones que indican que los celtas llegaron a Gran Bretaña desde Galicia.
@@arturojimenez7087
Al revés.
Fantastic insight
Its good to see that Martin sheen cares more about the history of his bloodline then his son charlie does.
So is th name Sheen just a stage name??
A family name on his mother's Irish side
In fact, the last name Sheen has nothing to do with his family. He took that last name from a Catholic archbishop who appeared frequently on television. 😉
@@Downhomeherbwife that was phelan
Spanish came from Europe. 1492🇪🇦
🇪🇦🇮🇪
🤣🤣🤣…ósea, que el Sr. Matías, estaba luchando contra el golpe de estado antes de que este se produjera…
Sheen is a 100% Genetic Rebel.
And now (2023) in Spain we are facing the possibility of a comeback of a fascist rise to power.
He did a movie about camino
In spain however it was a drama rather than a documentary unfortunately
About problem people!
In Spain we fear a big problem with fascism and also with communism
Communist were not precisely nuns during the war...
Sorry Martin, but everything you've been told here is highly biased. You should talk to someone more moderate to get a true understanding of what happened in Spain. If you think it was a war between democrats and fascists, you are sorely mistaken. I know many people in the United States believe this, but it is false.
In the Spanish civil war there were several factions fighting, there were probably some fascists, but the bulk of the people on the national side were conservatives. On the republican side, there were people who defended the democratic Republic, but there were also anarchists (whose aim was really to destroy it from within) and there were also socialists and communists, who aspired to a Soviet-style revolution. Many atrocities were committed, on one side AND the other. What is said in the book about your relative is very similar to what has been demonstrated in many other towns, where the forces that supposedly defended legality took the law into their own hands and murdered many people, in addition to assaulting army and civil guard barracks, or burning catholic churches. To affirm that what the book says is "mere propaganda" because it is written by a francoist priest is an ad hominem fallacy. It would be necessary to go to the town and investigate if something of what is reported happened or not. Go and ask the people if you want to know the truth.
His Uncle was arrested for opposing a coup d' etat against a democracy. The coup was the spark of all that violence, and there' s only one side responsible for that. Sounds like you are just making excuses. That coup resulted also on 40 years of Dictatorship and very limited civil rights in Spain. Please, stop making excuses to defend fascism.
@@Kwijiboz you have a great ignorance of the history of Spain. In addition to a dubious judgment capacity and a more than dubious morality.
In the first place, the violent events in Spain did not start with the coup d'état, but originated well before it. The opposition leader himself, Jose Calvo Sotelo, a member of a right-wing party, was assassinated on July 13, 1936 (5 days before the coup) by left-wing activists. Before the coup, countless violent events had also occurred in many towns in the country. Several parties on the right and on the left had armed militias that sowed terror on the other side. Therefore, what the book tells about Martin Sheen's relative is quite plausible. If it is true or not, it would have to be determined with a field investigation, asking possible witnesses, or relatives of witnesses. Just dismissing it makes no sense.
My concern is not for those who joined the militias of one side or the other, but for the thousands of people who were neutral and fell victim to the criminal actions of one or the other, who were covered up by those on their side behind the fallacies of the "fight against fascism" or the "fight against communism".
Un falangista revisionista, supongo.
@@arturojimenez7087 no se exactamente qué hay que revisar aquí, pues son hechos comprobados, que ningún historiador cuestiona, y que incluso figuran en las actas del congreso de la propia Segunda República.
Por ejemplo, en el acta de 16 de junio de 1936, se hace el siguiente recuento de altercados:
- Desde el 16 de febrero hasta el 15 de junio, inclusive:
Iglesias totalmente destruidas, 160. Asaltos de templos, incendios sofocados, destrozos, intentos de asalto, 251. Muertos, 269. Heridos de diferente gravedad, 1.287. Agresiones personales frustradas o cuyas consecuencias no constan, 215. Atracos consumados, 138. Tentativas de atraco, 23. Centros particulares y políticos destruidos, 69. Ídem asaltados, 312. Huelgas generales, 113. Huelgas parciales, 228. Periódicos totalmente destruidos, 10. Asaltos a periódicos, intentos de asalto y destrozos, 33. Bombas y petardos explotados, 146. Recogidas sin explotar, 78.
- Desde el 13 de mayo al 15 de junio, inclusive:
Iglesias totalmente destruidas, 36. Asaltos de iglesias, incendios sofocados, destrozos e intentos de asalto, 34. Muertos, 65. Heridos de diferente gravedad, 230.
Atracos consumados, 24. Centros políticos, públicos y particulares destruidos, 9. Asaltos, invasiones e incautaciones -las que se han podido recoger-, 46. Huelgas generales, 79. Huelgas parciales, 92. Clausuras ilegales, 7. Bombas halladas y explotadas, 47.
Haz la cuenta. Salen unos 300 muertos en 4 meses.
En la misma acta, se relatan cosas como que se estaban produciendo "detenciones de los coches y automóviles que circulan por las carreteras, para exigirles el pago de una contribución para el Socorro Rojo Internacional".. Hasta tal punto de que el Automóvil Club de Inglaterra, dictó una circular diciendo que no se garantizaba a ningún coche que entrara en el territorio español.
Y me pregunto yo ¿quienes eran esos que quemaban iglesias? ¿o los que extorsionaban a la gente en nombre del Socorro Rojo? Pues gente como 'presuntamente', el familiar de Sheen. Si les preguntáramos a ellos mientras asaltaban una iglesia dirían que estaban 'luchando contra el fascismo'. Obvio.
@@arturojimenez7087 maybe this fight is going to start again
Obviously he was wrong...he just helped comunists...
He can be so proud of his uncle for being part of the Segunda Republica🖤
La Segunda República fue la primera dictadura. Mira lo que hicieron en Casas Viejas y Yeste y en tantos otros sitios. Matanzas indiscriminadas de campesinos que querían recuperar las tierras comunales robadas en el siglo XIX y que la república reprimió a sangre y fuego. De eso nadie habla, ni siquiera los de derechas.
La segunda República no es motivo de ningún orgullo, fue un auténtico desastre y culpable del caldo de odio y ambiente guerra civilista.
All the Sheens speak Spanish just in case you all ignorant people thought they were « American »
Not all of them and not fluently, Martin himself needs an interpreter when interviewed in Spain.
The fact that you seem to think that them speaking Spanish somehow makes it impossible for them to be American speaks only of your ignorance, nobody else's.
We never got fascism in Spain.
Yes we did. That´s why Hitler´s airforce bombed Gernika and the italians fought in Spain.
he could be a great president
I thought Martin was the President for 8 years in the nineties... wasn't he?
Nope, he actually fought for the establishment of Communism in Spain, and fortunately, he lost.
So Sheen's uncle fought in favor of Communists, supported by Stalin, in the Spanish Civil War.??? Shame on him.
The Communists were on the side of Democracy just like the thousands of international volunteers who were Communist, Socialist or Anarchist. There were also many kinds of Communists from the PCE (Stalinists), POUM (Centrist Marxist) and there were Trotskyists and Leninists. The PCE massacred the POUM. The Fascists had Nazi's from across Europe fighting for them!
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Oh, yeah... What kind of fascism? Italian fascism, liberal fascism, or socialist fascism?
El rato? O el raton?
Aunque la palabra correcta sería "el ratón", existe otra especie de roedor que son "las ratas", y aunque lo correcto para referirse a una rata macho sería decir justamente eso "una rata macho", también podría ser que (al ser un simple "alias") se refieran a "el rato" como el masculino de "rata", en forma de jerga. Yo también creo que puede ser un error, pero además de que puede ser "lenguaje informal, jerga", también podría pasar que se use la forma "el rato" en alguno de los diferentes idiomas del norte de españa (asturiano, leonés, o gallego en este caso). En españa no solo se habla castellano (cuyo nombre internalcional es: Español). Igualmente, no tengo idea de si se dice "el rato" de una forma informal (mi primera teoría) o por alguna razón idiomática (mi segunda teoría), pero sí tienes razón en que "el rato" no es de uso común y podría ser una equivocación. O también podría ser correcto proque realmente se hizo llamar así, aunque no sea un buen uso de la lengua española estándar.
@@deifnalo interesante teoria
MS milked the fairness of his skin to become an actor.
What a ridiculous statement and totally irrelevant
Martin Sheen. 😊❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊
So he fought on the losing side then?
They were not fascists, they were falangistas. Very biased documentary
Exactly! Absurd how badly informed is the script..
Let's not forget that the Communist committed horrific atrocities in Spain... It's a good thing they lost.
I'm spanish. Agree with you. Deeply respect for Ramón and his family. The war was a national tragedy but the II republic was a complete liberticide because URSS wanted to create in Spain a comunist pole in western Europe.
The republic was destroyed by the left parties not by the right wing.
You are right!!!
Who started the war with a failed coup that enabled those atrocities (on both sides, but specially on the nationalist side) to happen? who established a 40 year dictatorship? exactly my dear fascists...
@@Kwijiboz The alzamiento was a reaction to the atrocities of the II República.
Talking about dictatorship... Do you think you are free now? Do you think citizens really have any power? Everything is a theatre, an illusion of freedom.
@@Dopaminapalospollos What atrocities?? and are you seriously telling me the country's situation now is equal or even worse than it was under the dictatorship? Of course modern democracy has many flaws, but come on, just tell us that you like fascist regimes, we will end this conversation sooner.
Against fascism? This is rubbish.
You are making a story that it is not true.
Viva la República!!
His uncle fought with the comunists, no against fascism.
There never was fascism in Spain
Reportaje inglés? De la misa, la media
I am sorry but is not only Galician too Spaniard, my name is Julio and i am from Barcelona Spain, but i am think to american people are the best on the world . I am sorry for my english .
Pues tu ni eres español ni gallego si dices que los americanos son lo mejor
..and he lost!
And he's a socialist 😂
Outside of U S America socialist is a huge compliment
@@jillybe1873 maybe to socialists, not to freedom loving sane people
@@SharpTac Like the Maga's traitor's who tried to overthrow the United States Government, those sane freedom loving people?
Americans have no idea what socialism actually means. Yet they are terrified of it.
@@EMVelez 💯%. It's due to the indoctrination of the American culture and the shear size of the country. They keep spouting Freedom, yet do not realise that they are corporately governed and have been since corporations were given legale status as individuals.
WDYTYA: The show that only does genealogies on people whose ancestors were either enslaved or were victims of the Nazis, because they need to push...THE MESSAGE.
Critical Drinker reference 😂
@@eq1373 Yep, Critical Drinker and Paul Joseph Watson, but there are others also. Not sure who's the first to coin it.
No one in their right mind would be happy to know their ancestors were slave traders or nazis, let alone share it with the world, as simple as that. You can safely remove your tin foil hat now.
Libs say fascism started with Trump and it has to do with racism.
I didn't watch this but found it funny that Martin told the electors to not vote as the people wanted with trump...a fascious. Ironic.
What? The people voted for Clinton, the electors voted for Trump! Martin Sheen pleaded with the electors not to vote for Trump, to allow the people ( the popular vote), wishes to stand.
You mean fascist 🙄. Another Trump supporter who cannot spell.
@@hartubmoses6645 no we live in a republic. First of all. Second if the people want hand counting why is it being fought so hard? You need to look for a bit deeper. But you won't.
@@patricialear8001 First of all, we live in a democratic republic. Second, What are you talking about? Who's talking about hand counting and what did it have to do with the electors electing Trump?
@@patricialear8001 See Fox news $800,000,000 settlement with Dominion for lying to the Ameircan public on behalf of the Tump gang.
Subtítulos en español please
That is not the true story.
Viva la República.