It's crazy that after years with basically no updates there's still new discoveries and alternative strategies. It's like Smash Bros Melee, I love that kind of stuff, amazing to see.
wow its just like smash where theres competitive tournaments and sponsors and thousands of players and progression on a global scale (for afking f2p monsters for slightly different rates or long term stuff XDDDDDD)
You can also look at Mind Golems; however, since it offers no Laws or Bones, it's still not meta. It's just different and more AFK than Minos and such. The positive with Mind Golems is some Crafting XP and RC, of course. So, it does depend on exactly what you want, what methods you plan on in the future, and if you actually want all 200ms, or just maxed combat + extra elsewhere (be it Prayer, Crafting, or RC). It also depends on whether you're actually using Laws to Telegrab Nats (I and a few others don't do that). You also need to look at simply doing Earth Runes and Ogress in combo. I find this is a great method, if you do the maths. You get more XP overall in the same time period, it's just different XP and requires you run Earths for a long time, which is non-AFK. The other method is with Cows for Crafting. This way is about 1:1, so 200m Crafting and 200m Attack or otherwise. It's not super fast, but it's the only realistic way to get 200m Crafting. With or without Prayer (since you can leave the Bones or use them). It requires a bit of GP but nothing harmful at all, and a few hours wasted buying all the Thread. It's completely non-AFK is the issue. I've not checked to see what is truly meta. I heard it was Minos. But this video is solid: for semi-AFK, this seems like one of the best methods -- more so, if you do bury the Bones, since Prayer is almost impossible to get. It looks like you'll struggle to get high Prayer after you get all 200ms combat skills. You'll have to go back, or do a good Prayer method later on. A few top players have this problem. Many of them do Hill Giants, though this isn't meta -- it's just an option many seem to enjoy. My plan is: - Ogress for Ranged, Defence, Strength, (some) Magic, and (some) Prayer. - Superheating Iron (+ Magic and (most of) Mining). - Earth Runes with Varrock Teleport (rest of Magic and extra (free) Mining). - Cows for Crafting and Attack (and most of Prayer). This is still not meta, but it's a decent option. Final stats can be: 200m combats (ex. Prayer) 95m-ish Prayer 35m-ish Smithing 50m-ish Mining 200m Crafting 13m Runecraft(ing) Note: Only thing I've not looked into, is if it's actually better to just do post-200m Ranged at Ogress for additional Prayer, Smithing, Mining, and(/or) Crafting (assuming you don't use Cows for 200m). It might be faster to just do the best Prayer method in addition to the best Smithing/Mining methods, separately. I can tell you it's about 1.5k Prayer XP per hour from Ogresses, compared with about 3k at best (or even better from Wildy). Hill Giants in between and offer other drops, but still not meta. Roughly 20,000 Ogresses for 6m Ranged XP. That's 13k Nats and 13k Laws. If you don't Telegrab, that's 444k Smithing XP from 200 hours of work. Far below just doing Smithing itself (or Smithing with Crafting, even, which also gives some Mining for free, regardless). 1 hour of Ogress, therefore, with Superheating, is only worth 1.5k Prayer and 2k Smithing or so (which Nats require a small amount of time to use). 1 hour of combined methods is 1.5k Prayer and 5k Smithing (30 mins and 30 mins), if not much more. The Ogress benefit is that it's much more AFK. If you factor in the free Crafting, it might turn out decent, since it means you don't need to do Cows for Crafting, but can use that final 200m Strength XP also on Ogress for no loss (unlike the innate loss of post-200m in terms of combat XP gain). Ogress, then, is only a bad idea if you're actually doing meta or something much closer to meta. And post-200m XP is only really unworkable if you're close to meta (i.e. wholly non-AFK methods). (The Hill Giant keys might make that worth it, but not done the maths on that.) The Ogress method helps with GP/Death Runes for Magic XP via actual training on Ogresses. You cannot easily get 200m Magic XP simply from Superheating and Teleporting. This requires post-200ms, which is actually meta at Ogress, I assume. Doing normal Magic is slower than just doing Ranged. Otherwise, you'll be forced to use the far worse Chaos Runes due to lack of GP. The only way to get 200m Magic without training or post-200m combats is to Telegrab Nats. Not done the maths, but sounds like that should do it! (The only positive to doing Magic at Ogress is the additional Crafting and Prayer XP, and the choice to not Telegrab in wildy.) In short: Ogresses and nothing else pretty much is a decent method for semi-AFKness. However, Minos and raw skilling is still the meta for non-AFK, I believe. Mind Golems are sadly crushed due to lack of either more Rune Essence or Bones. But it's still an option if you never want to do default RC (other than the handful of Rune Essence you need to do via Mind Golems -- unless you do more combat XP, but this is a complete waste of time). And for truly max fast XP (in as many skills as possible), Cows are meta for Attack, since they give about 1:1 combat and Crafting XP, along with Prayer XP. P.S. Another thing to factor is in just how active you want to be with combat and food/eating. I personally hate food, so I plan to limit that. Cows, Ogress melee alongside Ranged, and Mind Golems, means I likely won't ever need food. This doesn't help in terms of meta, it's just what I want. However, 2/3 melee at Ogresses is very good, nonetheless. I use melee on Ogresses until low health, then safespot with Ranged until health regen and Salmon drops. It's about 1:10 at way below 99s. 20k Ranged XP and 2k melee XP per hour. At 99s, it will be a much better ratio (never needing to leave the cave other than to rebuy Arrows). P.P.S. Maybe Ankou is still decent -- better than Mind Golems and such -- even without Telegrabbing Nats. But I don't see it being better than Ogresses at all, so that's a non-issue for me. It requires like 400m XP for 99 RC, so that has to be like 4 years of time. Not nearly good enough at all. Mind Golems is about 2 years and 200m XP for 99 RC. Ogress and Earth Runes method is about 3 years but better overall due to additional stuff (so, it saves like 1 extra year in Mining and Prayer). I think I have the maths right on all this.
I actually took a good look at these a while back but I haven't tried them out yet. I am working on 99rc on my f2p hcim, and after mining 250k essence I started looking for alternative methods. I am still currently just mining but I might try these out. Might be slower but a change of pace might be nice for a bit.
Interesting video with great explanations. I've been referencing your UIM startup guide myself and it holds up pretty well. I'm curious how different a 2024 version of that video would look like.
You should give greater demons a try at the demonic ruins. Free prayer so no food. Can use silverlight, power ammy and monk robes for cheap (i find it better then rune scim with str ammy and monks robes).
Hell yeah bro. I’ll always remember you & aj’s race to 200m mining. That was the best era of OSRS easily, by far. Peak of Hexis/Solace competition, the discovery of 2t wc to get Hexis the win in the Skilling comp. What a time to be alive
hey @Autumn Elegy do you have a discord or anything like that, just recently started back up my F2P UIM(started it after watching your earlier vids) its nothing special yet but would like to ask you some questions about the routes im taking in my grinds. No pressure tho
respect i could never grind that hard f2p. my son is autistic though non verbal 5 year old. keeps me pretty busy ;p maybe he can chop my trees one day l0l
I don’t understand. This is not meant to be degrading or anything like that, but how do you do it? Time invested, do you play afk at work? Do you work part time? Are you independently wealthy? Is yt paying the bills to allow you to play for extended times? I made my osrs account on day 1. I was top 10k for the first 8 months. Then I couldn’t keep playing rhose hours anymore and I stopped playing after about a year. And didn’t really start again until recently for maybe 3 hours a week. I remember watching you on your original account, and saw the first couple videos of this account but 132m str xp on f2p uim? How many hours is that at maximum ehp….
The video taught me the "banker" slur
they are a simpler race
didn't even use banka despite not being one himself
Back in 2014-5 we called them Dirty Helms
greyhelm is also a slur xD
We just call them jews where I’m from
Can’t spell autism without UIM
“Bankers” bro says it like they’re Muggles or something 😂😂
You are. Who trusts the banks?
Canceled a job interview today to watch this
Please never stop making videos of this account!
We've been waiting for this explanation for years!
always love seein some real nerd shit
It's crazy that after years with basically no updates there's still new discoveries and alternative strategies. It's like Smash Bros Melee, I love that kind of stuff, amazing to see.
That’s called tism
wow its just like smash where theres competitive tournaments and sponsors and thousands of players and progression on a global scale (for afking f2p monsters for slightly different rates or long term stuff XDDDDDD)
im so pumped for this new DK narrative to unfold
@@riley9768😂
@@riley9768 You missed the point. He wasnt talking about popularity
Thanks for clearing that up, champ.
bartsegers 0_0
@@Rebbing hi bas
Clearing up that you live once and not wasting your time on grinding for absolutely no shit?
My god I haven't seen one of your videos in years and while I'm not shocked to see this is what you've been doing, I am certainly horrified.
That was a very in- depth breakdown, thank you for sharing your data, Autumn!
Glad you’re looking after those hands buddy
Glad to see you posting again!
I am supremely uniterested in f2p, uims, and catablepons. why do i instaclick anything with "autumn elegy" as the uploader...
He talks nice and is not dumb
You can also look at Mind Golems; however, since it offers no Laws or Bones, it's still not meta. It's just different and more AFK than Minos and such. The positive with Mind Golems is some Crafting XP and RC, of course. So, it does depend on exactly what you want, what methods you plan on in the future, and if you actually want all 200ms, or just maxed combat + extra elsewhere (be it Prayer, Crafting, or RC). It also depends on whether you're actually using Laws to Telegrab Nats (I and a few others don't do that).
You also need to look at simply doing Earth Runes and Ogress in combo. I find this is a great method, if you do the maths. You get more XP overall in the same time period, it's just different XP and requires you run Earths for a long time, which is non-AFK.
The other method is with Cows for Crafting. This way is about 1:1, so 200m Crafting and 200m Attack or otherwise. It's not super fast, but it's the only realistic way to get 200m Crafting. With or without Prayer (since you can leave the Bones or use them). It requires a bit of GP but nothing harmful at all, and a few hours wasted buying all the Thread. It's completely non-AFK is the issue. I've not checked to see what is truly meta. I heard it was Minos.
But this video is solid: for semi-AFK, this seems like one of the best methods -- more so, if you do bury the Bones, since Prayer is almost impossible to get. It looks like you'll struggle to get high Prayer after you get all 200ms combat skills. You'll have to go back, or do a good Prayer method later on. A few top players have this problem. Many of them do Hill Giants, though this isn't meta -- it's just an option many seem to enjoy.
My plan is:
- Ogress for Ranged, Defence, Strength, (some) Magic, and (some) Prayer.
- Superheating Iron (+ Magic and (most of) Mining).
- Earth Runes with Varrock Teleport (rest of Magic and extra (free) Mining).
- Cows for Crafting and Attack (and most of Prayer).
This is still not meta, but it's a decent option.
Final stats can be:
200m combats (ex. Prayer)
95m-ish Prayer
35m-ish Smithing
50m-ish Mining
200m Crafting
13m Runecraft(ing)
Note: Only thing I've not looked into, is if it's actually better to just do post-200m Ranged at Ogress for additional Prayer, Smithing, Mining, and(/or) Crafting (assuming you don't use Cows for 200m). It might be faster to just do the best Prayer method in addition to the best Smithing/Mining methods, separately.
I can tell you it's about 1.5k Prayer XP per hour from Ogresses, compared with about 3k at best (or even better from Wildy). Hill Giants in between and offer other drops, but still not meta. Roughly 20,000 Ogresses for 6m Ranged XP. That's 13k Nats and 13k Laws. If you don't Telegrab, that's 444k Smithing XP from 200 hours of work. Far below just doing Smithing itself (or Smithing with Crafting, even, which also gives some Mining for free, regardless). 1 hour of Ogress, therefore, with Superheating, is only worth 1.5k Prayer and 2k Smithing or so (which Nats require a small amount of time to use). 1 hour of combined methods is 1.5k Prayer and 5k Smithing (30 mins and 30 mins), if not much more. The Ogress benefit is that it's much more AFK. If you factor in the free Crafting, it might turn out decent, since it means you don't need to do Cows for Crafting, but can use that final 200m Strength XP also on Ogress for no loss (unlike the innate loss of post-200m in terms of combat XP gain). Ogress, then, is only a bad idea if you're actually doing meta or something much closer to meta. And post-200m XP is only really unworkable if you're close to meta (i.e. wholly non-AFK methods). (The Hill Giant keys might make that worth it, but not done the maths on that.)
The Ogress method helps with GP/Death Runes for Magic XP via actual training on Ogresses. You cannot easily get 200m Magic XP simply from Superheating and Teleporting. This requires post-200ms, which is actually meta at Ogress, I assume. Doing normal Magic is slower than just doing Ranged. Otherwise, you'll be forced to use the far worse Chaos Runes due to lack of GP. The only way to get 200m Magic without training or post-200m combats is to Telegrab Nats. Not done the maths, but sounds like that should do it! (The only positive to doing Magic at Ogress is the additional Crafting and Prayer XP, and the choice to not Telegrab in wildy.)
In short: Ogresses and nothing else pretty much is a decent method for semi-AFKness. However, Minos and raw skilling is still the meta for non-AFK, I believe. Mind Golems are sadly crushed due to lack of either more Rune Essence or Bones. But it's still an option if you never want to do default RC (other than the handful of Rune Essence you need to do via Mind Golems -- unless you do more combat XP, but this is a complete waste of time). And for truly max fast XP (in as many skills as possible), Cows are meta for Attack, since they give about 1:1 combat and Crafting XP, along with Prayer XP.
P.S. Another thing to factor is in just how active you want to be with combat and food/eating. I personally hate food, so I plan to limit that. Cows, Ogress melee alongside Ranged, and Mind Golems, means I likely won't ever need food. This doesn't help in terms of meta, it's just what I want. However, 2/3 melee at Ogresses is very good, nonetheless. I use melee on Ogresses until low health, then safespot with Ranged until health regen and Salmon drops. It's about 1:10 at way below 99s. 20k Ranged XP and 2k melee XP per hour. At 99s, it will be a much better ratio (never needing to leave the cave other than to rebuy Arrows).
P.P.S. Maybe Ankou is still decent -- better than Mind Golems and such -- even without Telegrabbing Nats. But I don't see it being better than Ogresses at all, so that's a non-issue for me. It requires like 400m XP for 99 RC, so that has to be like 4 years of time. Not nearly good enough at all. Mind Golems is about 2 years and 200m XP for 99 RC. Ogress and Earth Runes method is about 3 years but better overall due to additional stuff (so, it saves like 1 extra year in Mining and Prayer). I think I have the maths right on all this.
Hey nice theorycrafting! You should check out the f2p skilling methods discord discord.gg/bs2aFxzF
Bro 4-5k hours on just some npcs is insane work, that's more than my csgo time on steam and I've played A LOT of matches and community maps, gz to u!
That is a solid spreadsheet, loved the explanation!
“ catablepons + ankous drop small bones but there’s no shot we burying those” ok i always wondered if there was a limit to his madness! 😂😅
atleast the description is accurate this video.
You could switch to goblins and I would just nod “yep, makes sense when you think about it!” 😂
i havent played in like 2 years but these videos are great for the brain
New shade of orangey green unlocked
the title and thumbnail were very intriguing!
Love this channel
never been called a banker before and idk how to feel about it..
This changes everything 😮
You're alive!
UIM calc video LFG 🤤
I actually took a good look at these a while back but I haven't tried them out yet. I am working on 99rc on my f2p hcim, and after mining 250k essence I started looking for alternative methods. I am still currently just mining but I might try these out. Might be slower but a change of pace might be nice for a bit.
Interesting video with great explanations. I've been referencing your UIM startup guide myself and it holds up pretty well. I'm curious how different a 2024 version of that video would look like.
10 years since you got me back into OSRS wtf
Great video.
This video is blasphemy and i do not condone such treason.
I was trying this out awhile back is a chill grind the coal is nice too
i love this
waiting for the rs3 content
Ewwww
You should give greater demons a try at the demonic ruins. Free prayer so no food. Can use silverlight, power ammy and monk robes for cheap (i find it better then rune scim with str ammy and monks robes).
This sounds smart af
Yeah sounds fun to try. Downside would be deathpiling every hour or risking all my stuff.
Just the fact that you can pronounce the names of these tells me you’re smarter than I.
Did you just say 4-5 thousand hours??? Alright we got bigger fish to fry then fleshies vs cutiepons lmao
ca table pons
How come you don't use rune kite wouldn't thst considerably extend your trips
i've been switching to crafting when i can actually play the game, and the shield isn't worth the extra inv slot since i need to carry the chronicle
@@AutumnElegy worth buying a shield from a shop somewhere then dropping it when switching back to crafting?
@@mainr7142Fally shield shop best shield is iron square giving +8 stab def, basically nothing
@@mainr7142 I don't think there are any shields available from shops above iron/steel.
You mean f2p kurasks
Hell yeah bro. I’ll always remember you & aj’s race to 200m mining. That was the best era of OSRS easily, by far. Peak of Hexis/Solace competition, the discovery of 2t wc to get Hexis the win in the Skilling comp. What a time to be alive
what no ahk does to a man
How you can turn off the special attack orb?
orb hider plugin
Hey, 👋 is this possible with every client?
@@kolossoshussle9584have u tried looking urself lol
@@meowdy.. yo
Idk
In F2P?? Is this guy a beast or what
Interesting...
NIce
cool vid
You gotta be higher than bat nuts to do this for fun lol.
Top tier xls content
Cool bro but what's your max bench?
120kg atpr
massive
How are body golems for rc/cmb exp in the long run?
I plugged those into my calcs today and they aren't great. Comparable to afking fleshies and you can't afk them.
Golems aren't good for uim in general
hey @Autumn Elegy do you have a discord or anything like that, just recently started back up my F2P UIM(started it after watching your earlier vids) its nothing special yet but would like to ask you some questions about the routes im taking in my grinds. No pressure tho
check his comment under McharlesPainting's long comment.
respect i could never grind that hard f2p. my son is autistic though non verbal 5 year old. keeps me pretty busy ;p maybe he can chop my trees one day l0l
How many have you killed so far? And how many of the previous mob did you kill for all your xp?
about 20k so far. I've killed ~1.3m fleshies
what about giant spiders?
they have no drops and hit harder than fleshies. they are marginally faster xp tho. decent option for regs, bad for irons
What do you study / work in? Engineering or finance I am guessing.
Yes software eng
I’ve wanted to have a f2p uim but since the nerf to lms for f2p it’s all kinda too whack to get into now a days I think.
im lesbian
I don’t understand. This is not meant to be degrading or anything like that, but how do you do it? Time invested, do you play afk at work? Do you work part time? Are you independently wealthy? Is yt paying the bills to allow you to play for extended times? I made my osrs account on day 1. I was top 10k for the first 8 months. Then I couldn’t keep playing rhose hours anymore and I stopped playing after about a year. And didn’t really start again until recently for maybe 3 hours a week. I remember watching you on your original account, and saw the first couple videos of this account but 132m str xp on f2p uim? How many hours is that at maximum ehp….
this acc has 15k hours played over the last 9 years. much of it is afk that can easily be multitasked with irl stuff
What do you think about Flesh Crawlers versus Red Spiders for afk combat? Didn't see it on your spreadsheet
red spiders have no drops and hit harder than fleshies. they are marginally faster xp tho. decent option for regs, bad for irons
Are you still weightlifting?
18 min video of this?
ikr? ONLY 18 :c
Check description bro.
what happened to your f2p ironman? :/
he never had one, it's always been an uim
@@D-V-O-R-A-K I meant for rs3
@@mob_boiii oh my bad
Lol
:3
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Decent analysis. Also you should probably start taking trt it'll make you less of a nerd.
Get a life bro
Stop playing f2p bruh play the real game
f2p best2p