I think Chase Bliss should make a 3-minute-timer pedal (Chase Time?) that can be synced to Habit. You turn the timer on and Habit turns on as well. I see a market for this :))
I have one of these, along with a CB MOOD MKII . . . the possibilities, especially with both together, are literally endless. In my ever expanding managerie of esoteric pedals, these are among the very few that never seem to run out of new potential sounds and patterns, there's nothing else quite like it. These unique sound gadgets may not be for everyone, and yes they can be a bit pricey, but for anyone looking to create unique soundscapes, generative content, whatever, it's an amzing fit . . . just my opinion.
Thank god for this video. I have heard so many people complain about how this can be used in a basic musical context and I am like there are plenty of creative ways to use this in a musical context lol
People don’t want to take the time to actually sit down and really work on it. they want instant results, and these pedals are expensive for a reason. They are very in-depth. Habit is definitely a complex pedal that can be hard to use at first I didn’t like it until I actually sat down and really started trying to use it and learning its functions, Now I love it!
@@joeymc5272 oh yeah I have come across so many awesome sounds. Sadly none of them worked out for this ep my band wrote I really liked using the reverse delay setting it’s a frippertronics technique. But I learned things about it in a deeper way in terms of how to implement it in band settings. I have been cranking the volume in home use
@@dorianford6227 yes i think most of chase bliss pedals are more or less loop focused now but you can still make great use of them in full album work. Just have to tinker. I dont go balls to the wall for entire songs but putting in cool fx within and small loops here and there and it works out epically.
Please make more of these for Habit, they are so beneficial. Thank you for the video and the… instrument? Idk what to call that thing. I’m hoping that some of the people you did sponsored content with revisit it as well - it’s not a one demo sort of pedal.
It’s possible! I’ve been working on a similar solution & I think I’ve landed on an Omnicharge for power (needs a polarity reverser if using DC for center negative pedals!) and a Sound Devices field mixer.
Just coming here two years later to say that there are super simple solutions for the power problem. Google "Harley Benton PowerPlant Powerbank" - I have that thing; it's the size of a normal cellphone powerbank and it has two power outlets for pedals that can deliver up to 1.2 A!
wish i could change it from 3 minutes. love the pedal so far. would be awesome for more reamping stuff if i could just loop a small section ( i know you can like in the video feed + loop) but i dont want to have to loop a 10 second part for 3 minutes until it comes back around. unless i am missing something.
Hi, I would like to make some very important points that were either omitted or left ambiguous in this video (and the rulebook): 1. When latching a loop, the length of the loop is determined by the SIZE knob. To capture anything meaningful you will need to have the SIZE knob turned up (therefore you cannot capture and loop sections containing shorter delay patterns, as length of delay is determined by SIZE, unless they have been previously captured to the 3min memory and layered with COLLECT on). 2. When in normal delay mode, turning the SIZE knob is destructive to your looped material. If you turn the SIZE knob down, it will delete the tail end of your recorded loop/delay, so that when you open the SIZE knob again you will have a patch of silence in your loop. However, while in LATCH mode, you can turn the SIZE knob down (to temporarily shorten your loop), and turn it up again, and your original recorded loop will remain intact. This is very important and useful for performance purposes. Also while in latch mode if you turn the SIZE knob larger than your original latched loop, silence will be added to the end of your loop. 3. While in LATCH mode, because SIZE determines the length of your latched loop, you cannot play through the pedal with a different delay setting while playing along to the loop (for example to have a shorter delay effect on whatever you are playing while playing along). Anything you play after latching will therefore sound like a dry signal. This is because changing the SIZE knob is required to change your delay length, but will also alter the length of your latched loop (as detailed in point 2). So it is impossible. 4. While in LATCH mode, anything you subsequently play through the pedal absolutely, definitely, will NOT overdub into your latched loop. This is ambiguously stated toward the end of the video (16:43). To clarify, anything you play into the pedal while latched will not be dubbed into the latched loop, however, it WILL still be recording into the 3min memory in the background (with or without COLLECT on). If you have SCAN set to zero, you will hear nothing, but if you turn it up you will start to hear snippets of that recorded material appear, even while latched. SPREAD does not affect your loop in any way while latched, nor any incoming audio, however while turning the knob you will hear audio recorded to the background 3min memory bleed through to the foreground. I don't know why this is or if it is intentional. MODIFIERS can be applied to your latched loop for creative performance movements (such as filter sweeps), but will not be baked in to your loop while latched, even if FEED is on. If you switch modifiers off, it will restore your original latched loop. All of this is not a drawback, it is a benefit, as you can now very easily create a loop, latch it, and then play along to the loop without having your loop stack infinitely. If you want to add some flourishes to your loop, you can turn the SCAN knob up. Alternatively, if you have COLLECT on and have accumulated at least 3min of material, while you will NOT hear it circulating in the foreground while latched, you can quickly unlatch to make those sounds collected in the background audible again, which will then be fed through the delay, and thus can be latched and captured into a new loop. You can make some really awesome and unexpected loops this way to very quickly change the feel of a performance, particularly when combined with modifiers. If all you want to do is build a continuously stacking loop, don't use latch. Just use the usual method for a delay, and have REPEATS set to full, and SIZE set to the desired length of your loop. In fact, this is a great way to build a loop, and then you can LATCH it to lock it in and preserve it for the duration of your performance, while playing along to it. I plan to use this pedal in live performance and will be exploiting all of the above functionality. When used in this way it is EXTREMELY performance focussed, especially once you start dialing in modifiers. (I'm using it with a digitakt and a small eurorack setup.) My pedal settings which you can use to verify all of the above: -All dipswitches set to off, except for LATCH to on -MODIFY off -SPREAD zero -SCAN zero -Righthand switch set to OUT -REPEATS set to full -SIZE about 12 o'clock.
OK, this is really really great detail. Along with this video, so much here to think about and explore. So far, I've tended to use Habit as a delay - with Manual always on, I dial in Scan very slightly and Size lowish, some very cool rhythmic patterns emerge, though the pitch alterations in the modifiers can throw them off. Latch is the next thing for me to explore. The whole 3-min buffer thing is a bit of a weird structure, it seems to me...
Ok, you guys are really honking me off. I had decided that this was just an expensive gimmicky time waster and then you put this up. I’m going to have to ask my boss for a raise, like immediately. Arrrrgggghhhh!
it could be really handy to have some visual indication of how a loop is going, at least multiple led colors for 1/2/3 minutes, I don't know, but the form factor ruins it. also, as it has tap tempo, it could be awesome to be able to let the device know the needed loop length by, let's say, tapping X times the left button to input a bar length (measuring in taps) and tapping Y times the right button to let it know the number of bars. of course, some «shift» button should be pressed. using the «scan» knob is like all the way up (3mins) or %some_time% using the other positions. the vid is pretty, but I can hardly imagine how the looper part of it could be usable in real musical context, not just making semi-random notes in key or recording all kind of sounds. all the other features seem good.
No offense, I own 4 CB pedals, and have pretty much had all of them at one point or another... but this isn't a song. its just a bunch of notes. When blooper came out you guys had videos of people using them practically (like into it over it). It would cool to see more of that (and build your pedals with structured songs in mind) rather than a 5 minute video of a chaotic loop. I'd love to see how your pedals are used with bands, verses, choruses and singing... that would really be inspiring.
These unique sound gadgets may not be for everyone, and yes they can be a bit pricey, but for anyone looking to create unique soundscapes, generative content, whatever, it's an amzing fit . . . just my opinion. I have both the Habit, and the MOOD MKII, sometimes using them together. At a certain point, they can resonate together, create their own content, which I record and then extract sections from. Those sections sometimes do make it into compositions . . . and of course, mystify the neighbors in the predawn hours.
@@SynthoidSounds I own pretty much every chase bliss pedal. habit, blooper, mood2, lossy, thermae, cxm, gen loss. It doesnt change anything i said, their demos, and the demo tape is not musical or practical.
how do you set a simple foundational loop? It's never made clear. Also when you freeze the loop, can it be set to momentary so the loop continues where is left off after the freeze?
The memory (3min loop) on HABIT is always recording while the pedal is engaged. When you freeze the echo for a loop, even when momentarily frozen, it will continue from where the playback point is currently at, not where it was when the "freeze" was triggered. Freeze is essentially just behaving the same as maxing out the Repeats knob, but doesn't let any new audio into the buffer. Hope that makes sense!
This quite the unique effect. Has anyone on the Chase Bliss team considered making a digital version (vst / plugin)? I would love to have this on my future projects
Thank you! At this time we are not pursuing any audio plugin versions of our hardware. That said, it is relatively easy to use our effects as hardware inserts in your DAW as well as control them via MIDI within the DAW. If you need any assistance setting this up email help@chasebliss.com
Does this collect your music while in bypass mode as well? I want to use this for bass solos live really bad but I can’t just have this running during some blues song 😂
I wish this came with a little timer built in. Would've just made sense.
That was really beautiful. Reminiscent of the old knobs demos.
surely it's the same guy, no? Would make sense that the same person is doing it given that they collaborated on Blooper.
I think Chase Bliss should make a 3-minute-timer pedal (Chase Time?) that can be synced to Habit. You turn the timer on and Habit turns on as well. I see a market for this :))
I have one of these, along with a CB MOOD MKII . . . the possibilities, especially with both together, are literally endless. In my ever expanding managerie of esoteric pedals, these are among the very few that never seem to run out of new potential sounds and patterns, there's nothing else quite like it. These unique sound gadgets may not be for everyone, and yes they can be a bit pricey, but for anyone looking to create unique soundscapes, generative content, whatever, it's an amzing fit . . . just my opinion.
Thank god for this video. I have heard so many people complain about how this can be used in a basic musical context and I am like there are plenty of creative ways to use this in a musical context lol
People don’t want to take the time to actually sit down and really work on it. they want instant results, and these pedals are expensive for a reason. They are very in-depth. Habit is definitely a complex pedal that can be hard to use at first I didn’t like it until I actually sat down and really started trying to use it and learning its functions, Now I love it!
@@joeymc5272 yeah this something you have to deeply experiment with. Sadly I am now using it like a DD8.
@@dorianford6227 worth it to continue playing with it once you get the hang of it there are a lot of possibilities.
@@joeymc5272 oh yeah I have come across so many awesome sounds. Sadly none of them worked out for this ep my band wrote I really liked using the reverse delay setting it’s a frippertronics technique.
But I learned things about it in a deeper way in terms of how to implement it in band settings.
I have been cranking the volume in home use
@@dorianford6227 yes i think most of chase bliss pedals are more or less loop focused now but you can still make great use of them in full album work. Just have to tinker. I dont go balls to the wall for entire songs but putting in cool fx within and small loops here and there and it works out epically.
The concept of being able to use one pedal to construct entire songs is totally game changing for me. It's such a fabulous idea. ❤️
how man albums did you release in the past year?
@@AI-Consultant 4 in the last few years
Some people are so cynical @@dougtolley
@@XxXHardcoreshredderxXXxxxxxxxx ha! True. Nevermind though
Beautiful video!!! Thanks CB and Fireghosting🙏
Please make more of these for Habit, they are so beneficial. Thank you for the video and the… instrument? Idk what to call that thing.
I’m hoping that some of the people you did sponsored content with revisit it as well - it’s not a one demo sort of pedal.
Love this pedal so much. Proper audio mangler of pure goodness:)
Looking forward to trying some of these techniques out. The timer is a great idea
This is an inspired piece of technology... In reality, it's a musical instrument in its own right. Josh from JHS is right when he calls a genius!
Cant wait to get my hands on one! Tricky little box to track down. :)
I still don't understand this pedal but I love hearing what comes out!
Watching this made me want to take Habit and OP-1 out to a field for a picnic but then I quickly realized power needs and audio output etc. darn!
It’s possible! I’ve been working on a similar solution & I think I’ve landed on an Omnicharge for power (needs a polarity reverser if using DC for center negative pedals!) and a Sound Devices field mixer.
@@joshuacruse871 I would love to see this setup in action!
MyVolts!!!!
Just coming here two years later to say that there are super simple solutions for the power problem. Google "Harley Benton PowerPlant Powerbank" - I have that thing; it's the size of a normal cellphone powerbank and it has two power outlets for pedals that can deliver up to 1.2 A!
Super dope!
I saved this video to multiple playlists ❤
a magical box!
The band Good Tiger needs to jump on this ASAP
Thank you this is both very helpful and informative in a way that is very visual which is soo wonderful.
Gorgeous sounds
Thanks!
I want to like this eight thousand times
such an awesome video! Can't decide on this or blooper...Habit seems to have more tricks up it's sleeve.
Holy Fireghost
wish i could change it from 3 minutes. love the pedal so far. would be awesome for more reamping stuff if i could just loop a small section ( i know you can like in the video feed + loop) but i dont want to have to loop a 10 second part for 3 minutes until it comes back around. unless i am missing something.
What about the latch feature they show in the last segment of the video? I’m not sure myself.
@@Ben-iz5ml yeah i thought that would be it but then they mention the 3 minutes again right after that
Hi, I would like to make some very important points that were either omitted or left ambiguous in this video (and the rulebook):
1. When latching a loop, the length of the loop is determined by the SIZE knob. To capture anything meaningful you will need to have the SIZE knob turned up (therefore you cannot capture and loop sections containing shorter delay patterns, as length of delay is determined by SIZE, unless they have been previously captured to the 3min memory and layered with COLLECT on).
2. When in normal delay mode, turning the SIZE knob is destructive to your looped material. If you turn the SIZE knob down, it will delete the tail end of your recorded loop/delay, so that when you open the SIZE knob again you will have a patch of silence in your loop.
However, while in LATCH mode, you can turn the SIZE knob down (to temporarily shorten your loop), and turn it up again, and your original recorded loop will remain intact. This is very important and useful for performance purposes.
Also while in latch mode if you turn the SIZE knob larger than your original latched loop, silence will be added to the end of your loop.
3. While in LATCH mode, because SIZE determines the length of your latched loop, you cannot play through the pedal with a different delay setting while playing along to the loop (for example to have a shorter delay effect on whatever you are playing while playing along). Anything you play after latching will therefore sound like a dry signal. This is because changing the SIZE knob is required to change your delay length, but will also alter the length of your latched loop (as detailed in point 2). So it is impossible.
4. While in LATCH mode, anything you subsequently play through the pedal absolutely, definitely, will NOT overdub into your latched loop. This is ambiguously stated toward the end of the video (16:43).
To clarify, anything you play into the pedal while latched will not be dubbed into the latched loop, however, it WILL still be recording into the 3min memory in the background (with or without COLLECT on). If you have SCAN set to zero, you will hear nothing, but if you turn it up you will start to hear snippets of that recorded material appear, even while latched.
SPREAD does not affect your loop in any way while latched, nor any incoming audio, however while turning the knob you will hear audio recorded to the background 3min memory bleed through to the foreground. I don't know why this is or if it is intentional.
MODIFIERS can be applied to your latched loop for creative performance movements (such as filter sweeps), but will not be baked in to your loop while latched, even if FEED is on. If you switch modifiers off, it will restore your original latched loop.
All of this is not a drawback, it is a benefit, as you can now very easily create a loop, latch it, and then play along to the loop without having your loop stack infinitely. If you want to add some flourishes to your loop, you can turn the SCAN knob up.
Alternatively, if you have COLLECT on and have accumulated at least 3min of material, while you will NOT hear it circulating in the foreground while latched, you can quickly unlatch to make those sounds collected in the background audible again, which will then be fed through the delay, and thus can be latched and captured into a new loop. You can make some really awesome and unexpected loops this way to very quickly change the feel of a performance, particularly when combined with modifiers.
If all you want to do is build a continuously stacking loop, don't use latch. Just use the usual method for a delay, and have REPEATS set to full, and SIZE set to the desired length of your loop. In fact, this is a great way to build a loop, and then you can LATCH it to lock it in and preserve it for the duration of your performance, while playing along to it.
I plan to use this pedal in live performance and will be exploiting all of the above functionality. When used in this way it is EXTREMELY performance focussed, especially once you start dialing in modifiers. (I'm using it with a digitakt and a small eurorack setup.)
My pedal settings which you can use to verify all of the above:
-All dipswitches set to off, except for LATCH to on
-MODIFY off
-SPREAD zero
-SCAN zero
-Righthand switch set to OUT
-REPEATS set to full
-SIZE about 12 o'clock.
OK, this is really really great detail. Along with this video, so much here to think about and explore. So far, I've tended to use Habit as a delay - with Manual always on, I dial in Scan very slightly and Size lowish, some very cool rhythmic patterns emerge, though the pitch alterations in the modifiers can throw them off. Latch is the next thing for me to explore. The whole 3-min buffer thing is a bit of a weird structure, it seems to me...
This is one of those comments that needs to be stickied tbh.
NGL it made me want an OP-1
Ok, you guys are really honking me off. I had decided that this was just an expensive gimmicky time waster and then you put this up. I’m going to have to ask my boss for a raise, like immediately. Arrrrgggghhhh!
How about an external Chase Bliss MIDI-based clock read-out with indicators for loop positions?
I love my habit! It's a great tool for creation/ idea generation. Can you make a Stereo version? Or do I just need to buy a 2nd Habit?
So this is a Steve Reich machine.... sick.
Neat
it could be really handy to have some visual indication of how a loop is going, at least multiple led colors for 1/2/3 minutes, I don't know, but the form factor ruins it. also, as it has tap tempo, it could be awesome to be able to let the device know the needed loop length by, let's say, tapping X times the left button to input a bar length (measuring in taps) and tapping Y times the right button to let it know the number of bars. of course, some «shift» button should be pressed. using the «scan» knob is like all the way up (3mins) or %some_time% using the other positions. the vid is pretty, but I can hardly imagine how the looper part of it could be usable in real musical context, not just making semi-random notes in key or recording all kind of sounds. all the other features seem good.
stunning!! just got mine and trying to figure it out how to connect it to the op-1 /complete noob in music world here/
That was over $3k worth of bleep bloops but it somehow seems worth it
Any idea when these will be available for purchase through your site?
No offense, I own 4 CB pedals, and have pretty much had all of them at one point or another... but this isn't a song. its just a bunch of notes. When blooper came out you guys had videos of people using them practically (like into it over it). It would cool to see more of that (and build your pedals with structured songs in mind) rather than a 5 minute video of a chaotic loop. I'd love to see how your pedals are used with bands, verses, choruses and singing... that would really be inspiring.
Nah I need to fill that niche so I need them not to do that! So I can at least pretend I’m onto something interesting
These unique sound gadgets may not be for everyone, and yes they can be a bit pricey, but for anyone looking to create unique soundscapes, generative content, whatever, it's an amzing fit . . . just my opinion. I have both the Habit, and the MOOD MKII, sometimes using them together. At a certain point, they can resonate together, create their own content, which I record and then extract sections from. Those sections sometimes do make it into compositions . . . and of course, mystify the neighbors in the predawn hours.
@@SynthoidSounds I own pretty much every chase bliss pedal. habit, blooper, mood2, lossy, thermae, cxm, gen loss. It doesnt change anything i said, their demos, and the demo tape is not musical or practical.
Just record what it’s doing and resample
how do you set a simple foundational loop? It's never made clear. Also when you freeze the loop, can it be set to momentary so the loop continues where is left off after the freeze?
The memory (3min loop) on HABIT is always recording while the pedal is engaged.
When you freeze the echo for a loop, even when momentarily frozen, it will continue from where the playback point is currently at, not where it was when the "freeze" was triggered. Freeze is essentially just behaving the same as maxing out the Repeats knob, but doesn't let any new audio into the buffer. Hope that makes sense!
This quite the unique effect. Has anyone on the Chase Bliss team considered making a digital version (vst / plugin)?
I would love to have this on my future projects
Thank you! At this time we are not pursuing any audio plugin versions of our hardware. That said, it is relatively easy to use our effects as hardware inserts in your DAW as well as control them via MIDI within the DAW. If you need any assistance setting this up email help@chasebliss.com
What is that Custard synth on your OP-1?
was wondering the same thing!!
Is it possible to change the 3 minute timer?
Could someone please teach me what is the brand name of kalimba?
Did Knobs make this video?
Looks like Fireghosting did!
@@kevinhartley7298 Yup! Fireghosting all the way
what is the make/model of the keys instrument?
Teenage Engineering OP-1
@@ChaseBlissAudio Thx
This approach to creating musical structure seems like it could be... HABIT FORMING.
Does this collect your music while in bypass mode as well? I want to use this for bass solos live really bad but I can’t just have this running during some blues song 😂
You can toggle a dipswitch On so it will record while in bypass, but in default settings it is only recording while engaged.
tycho.
want
so this isn't a guitar pedal?
does anyone know if that kalimba is available to buy?
I heard on a How I Bliss episode that one producer’s secret is to find handmade instruments on Etsy.
Maybe Lottie Canto, Colour Palette
no op-1 field? haha broke butts!
well they’re kinda songs.. more just big soundscapes
Knobs copycat?