Weird how much of a pissing match for daw use commenters seem to bring to the youtube comment section.. 😂 your reply is hilarious. In a world where music has less and less relevance in day to day life - seemingly by the day… there are still thousands of people who are out there arguing one’s level of selling out if your not recording live and direct to master tape/cutting to vinal or best and least sell out.. the the wax edison cylinder 🎉 its always great to hear the opinions of others who actually use multiple daws… if someone isnt fluent in logic and protools its silly.. one thing in studios when you get logic files we always laughed about .bip and called it bounce into protools files - yes we know what it actually stands for… anyway kudos and a happy new year. 🎉
Moving multiple tracks with one fader, you need to make a group. Select all the guitar tracks and press command G, creates a group and they are then linked as one.
Glad someone beat me to it. This drove me insane when I first got Pro Tools. It's still less convenient than being able to just highlight a bunch of tracks and move them instantly, but it's definitely better than not being able to move them in groups at all.
yep, and you can turn the grouping on and off once you've done it as well. I learnt Pro Tools first when I did my audio engineering degree so moving to other DAWs that don't have that feature still annoys me. Though my ultimate DAW would be Pyramix if it was actually affordable for a home user, really miss using it from my days working in a mastering studio!
As a 'one man band', working at home, Reaper (4+ years) has met all of my meager needs from a DAW. And yes I have paid for it. Amazing on-line support community. Constant free updates. As a professional musician, I can see using Pro Tools. It is the industry standard. It's an expensive program that you never own. Safe travels.
Not true you can totally purchase a perpetual license. It did break a few years ago if you updated to Apple Silicon without an update plan but they do support Perpetual licenses still and plan to continue doing so. Avid is a very hated company but they were actually bought out a few years ago and I think they have been making much more customer friendly choices since, to try to repair their bad reputation. I primarily use Cubase.
Hey Fluff, I thought it was worth mentioning that PT doesn't HAVE to be a subscription. They did bring back perpetual licensing a few years ago, but the way it works is weird. You have to start with a subscription, and then you can upgrade that subscription to a perpetual license for what I think is the cost of the second year. The only catch is that Avid themselves don't actually handle the perpetual upgrades. For instance, I got PT last year on an education discount at a rate of $99/year. When my license comes up in May, I'll then go to Sweetwater and purchase an upgrade to a perpetual license for another $99. I think that's definitely worth the price if you plan to be in Pro Tools for a long time! Hope this wasn't something you already knew!
@loganbower264 I did know that, but I think it'd still be cheaper to buy the perpetual license and then only upgrade when I absolutely have to. Idk though, what do you think about it?
I purchased mine in about 2016. I got the perpetual license but I never paid support. I have a CS degree don't need that kind of help. Learning to use the product and supporting yourself can be done in the forums and RUclips videos. I'm still using it with the basic AIR plugins bundle and I love it. I'm mastering my friends metal album with stock plugins and it sounds great. DAW is DAW but you need something that's fully featured and easy to use. Protools seems to be one of the easiest to use. A perfect mix of tech access and simplicity with an intuitive Windows app look and feel. The plugins are all pretty nice too.
Avid tricked me out of my OG perpetual license with the promise of a $99/year subscription .... which then gradually wound up being $299/year, while at the same time offering new buyers $99/year. I asked their support if I (as a 10+ year protools user) could get the same deal, and after about 2 weeks and a handful of emails they eventually agreed to let me renew one time for $99. I replied telling them to cancel my subscription. Immediately got on sweetwater and purchased another new $599 perpetual license that I will just ride into the sunset. No more bait and switch subscription bullshit.... ever.
I have been using Pro Tools for many years but now, as my daughter is getting old enough to understand the swearing words, I have purchase a Mac Studio and Logic for a planned migration.
In regards to 9:44, you can move multiple tracks at once you just have to group them first by selecting your tracks, hitting Command G, then you’ll be able to! Just as an update for Fluff and everyone else!
@@RiffsAndBeards Also once groups are created, you can globally toggle suspending groups by "Command Shift G". This way you don't have to keep creating/deleting the groups to work with individual tracks. Grouping gets pretty deep if you want it to. Investigate the different options in the groups menu like "Modify Groups", etc. This is in the lower left corner of the edit window. If you don't see it there, look at the main menu and toggle on "View > Other Displays > Track List"
Pro tools user since 1996 here - I recommend learn a shortcut every day - specially all combinations of track and plug-in selections with command / option and shift and editing with tab to transient. Learn also to manage plug-in latency and downstream bus and master latencies. Command/option/shift selections work with many different things - tracks, regions, plugins across tracks, on the track list on the left, on the mix window and edit window. Pro tools has robust fader grouping since the 90’s (before folders and VCAs existed) - learn that on the bottom left of the screen and the shortcuts to turn them on and off as needed - I recommend you read the manual for the sections you want to learn and practice it. The manuals are very comprehensive, covering every single thing.
Use an Aux for your Mix Bus so your plug-ins are prefader but assign a Master fader to that mix Bus’s input so you can adjust your input level if you’re too hot/low. Also, you can have many master faders in your session so you can use these as input controls to your internal bussing for all instruments
Pro tools is great except for the part where they rip you off annually for the rest of your life. It seems they are trying save a slowly sinking ship. Time to adapt and stop being such an elitist brand.
So, most PT users say the same thing - "there are a lot of things that make PT the industry standard". And when asked for those reasons, nobody - and I mean NOBODY - can answer the question. From this video for example, the pros are: - tutorials - not a part of PT itself really, but sure - all cores are used - more of a Logic problem really, other DAWs use all cores too and, uh, that's it? I guess the real reason for using PT is... everyone else keeps using PT, because they have been doing that for years. Not a completely bad reason, but also nothing to be excited about really.
@@BananaManPL It‘s the most important reason tho, if you want to work with other professionals or in other studios. If not, then anything is pretty much good enough.
I switched to Logic 10 years ago for a one time purchase of $200 and have loved the frequent updates and features without having to be charged extra or a subscription. I am stoked.
Apple worth 1 trillion dollars avid worth 1.0 billion with new loss 😢 if Apple was only one out here u think it will be free yea just like the mall better support the company before they gone out of business 😅 some time u got invested in these businesses
@@TrapBoiFuse561 The problem with Apple is, like Fluff said, they just don’t (need to) care about Logic. They could kill it off tomorrow and it wouldn’t impact them in the slightest.
Hardcore REAPER user here...I always say that REAPER's almost limitless customizability is it's greatest strength as well as it's greatest weakness...the user has to be wiling to commit the time to make it work the way they want it to, but once it is it's a pure pleasure to use...
I've tried many DAWs including Pro Tools, nothing is as convinient and easy to use as Studio One. The drag and drop, ui/ux and features are just top notch.
Good call ! Ya Studio One is the shit. I always think it's funny when people mention problems with other DAWs cause almost anything they say I'm like...ya Studio One already does that hahah
Heyyy Fluff, I wanna share a quick tip about Pro Tools and grouping tracks together. You can follow the shortcut after selecting multiple tracks (Cmd + Shift + G), naming said group and hitting enter. You can also group inserts together, mute, solo, automation modes, and you can save these as separate configurations inside the group window. Also, there is something called Key Focus in Pro Tools. It shows up on both the edit window and the mix window and it is a ltitle yellow square that says ABC and you can toggle it on and off. In the edit window it allows you to trim audio, fade it, and a bunch of other things that you may know already but in the mix window if you follow the ABC you can toggle individual groups on and off. This is handy when you have say, 8 tracks grouped together and you want to move one of them separate from the rest. You can also achieve this by command-dragging on the track's fader up or down. This will disable the group on that track temporarily. Pro Tools has a lot of hidden things like these, so have a blast discovering them cause there's a ton! And of course, welcome to the Pro Tools Fam and Happy New Year 2025!
Started off on Cubase back in '99. Moved to PT in '07. Tried many times over the years to move away from PT, but the workflow always brings me back. I feel like I'm working with one hand tied behind my back in any other DAW. Pro Tip: Learn the keyboard shortcuts, they are a lifesaver and will speed things up drastically.
I’m excited for you. I started in Cool Edit Pro, then followed it to Adobe Audition. I did some audio classes at a community college and spent time in Pro Tools and Digital Performer. I tried and hated a demo of Abelton. Then, I realized I had Cubase from a bundle that came with a sound card I bought from Musician’s Friend. When my PC was kaput, I got a MacBook Pro and got Pro Tools on the advice of some friends. After battling the upgrades and subscription plan, given I make very little (at least on a consistent basis) from music, I bought Logic and have used it since. I was never super comfortable in Pro Tools. Logic is easier for me, but it feels less official. Pro Tools has a vibe about it, frustrating as it could be at times, that makes you feel like what you’re recording matters more. It’s totally psychological and probably my own weirdness, but it’s there. I hope you enjoy it!
I've been using ProTools since 2008, back when I started my audio production degree. I got to learn on a 48 channel SSL Duality console with a ProTools HD setup. It was an amazing experience. I kept using ProTools after graduation because I was familiar with it. The new version is a lot better than the "ProTools 7 M-Powered" version I had in school. You are able to install it on more than 1 machine. I have it on my desktop and my laptop. Also, you shouldn't need a physical dongle anymore. You can sign into your account via the iLok app on the machine you're working on. As far as selecting multiple tracks, you can do that by creating groups in the mix window. You can create multiple groups of tracks, as well as turn the groups off and on. So, if you want to mix each track individually, set the levels, and then be able to move both faders simultaneously later, you would create a group with the tracks you want, turn it off to do adjustments and set levels, then turn it on and be able to move multiple faders simultaneously.
I've done it the otherway around.. I'd never go back to pro tools... expensive and crap. UI still feels like 2005, and working with midi is a pain the ass.
I dunno man. I’ve got 20 years of Pro-Tools sessions. I switched to Reaper and Studio One in 2022 and I haven’t looked back. I couldn’t justify $120/mo for PT Unlimited. Plus most engineers have a variety of DAWs and can work with any session you have. Many mix engineers just need your stems and production notes. AVID has been so far behind the 8 ball for decades that I’m surprised they’re still in business.
I've been a Reaper guy for a long time but got the opportunity to have a whole semester of one on one lessons on Pro Tools while I was in university and I came out really really enjoying using it. I still ended up going back to Reaper as my standard because of Atmos functionality being a lot easier there, but Pro Tools is a great program once you learn your way around it and its great having that confidence on the industry standard tool
So you technically can move multiple faders at once, you would have to group the faders to do them though rather than using a key command. It's not as fast as using Logic Pro or even Cubase because you can do that without needing to group channels together. What held me back from continuing to use Pro Tools is because of the subscription model. I would like to upgrade to the next version of Pro Tools, but not at the price of buying a brand new DAW or paying to subscribe to the DAW.
You can of course buy a perpetual license eventually. When your support plan expires you can continue using the most recent version until you want to renew your plan and get all the updates afterward.
Elastic Audio is ridiculously powerful. You can literally do time alignment with three mouse clicks and just do a little clean up. Also, Groups is your friend for batch editing. Enjoy!
I was on Pro Tools for 15 years. Even went to school for Pro Tools. Two or three years ago I switched to Reaper because I was tired of Pro Tools crashing. I haven’t been happier.
Happy for you, man! I hope it improves your work flow and inspires you. I use Ableton Live Suite and I absolutely adore it. I’ve always heard that Pro-Tools is the industry standard , ironically all of my friends who are producers and engineers, and the engineer of the game professional studio I have to fly out to also uses Ableton now and switched from using both Logic and ProTools!
Fluff, I found this quite timely. I’ve retired from the corporate world where I was essentially a “Court composer” for a multinational that owned multiple “ brands”. The good part was it was essentially a closed loop system almost. As composer I used logic for 25 years. Thus, I would essentially handoff my mixes to the post pro tools jockeys. Basically it bought me the home that I am currently standing in. Currently….I’ve stumbled into a semi-retirement gig wherein i’m basically teaching remedial audio to freshman college kids, and also beginner pro tools. I’ve not really enjoyed pro tools at all due to the years in logic. But, It’s slowly growing on me. I’m finally starting to get “ if you’re tracking you’re probably going to want to use pro tools.” For experimenting and composition MY experience has been logic is the bomb. But, thanks for the check up from the neck up. I’ve got two weeks until I get my next batch of beginners. Hopefully I can bring a much better attitude to the task at hand. Much obliged.
You can create groups (Mix-Edit or both) where you can pull all the faders in. that group (via mix group). Yeah, you have to create the group in advance, but then you can easily select the group once you have done so. Not quite as fast as selecting the tracks on the first go, but once you create your groups, they are faster to select with a single button.
Some PT users make a sub mix bus to apply their mastering chain to so then that goes into the Master Bus so you do all your fade out automation on the sub mix bus.
The thing with Master tracks in PT is that they basically affect the audio BEFORE it gets to wherever it's routed to. So if you have a bus going to an Aux with a delay, you can create a master for that bus and control the send volume into the delay. Or you can have multiple masters for different outputs for monitoring, etc. Until I found that out, I thought the Master just acted like the last track of a chain but it's more like a summing instance which the audio moves through to wherever it's routed next, be that an output or different tracks.
Happy New Year and welcome to Pro Tools! I really appreciate it your video. I’ve been using Pro Tools for about 15 years, and I absolutely love it. It feels like home. It gets a lot of hate thrown its way, and it made me feel nice to see someone enter the PT ecosystem and be excited enough to talk about it. I’m stoked for you to discover all of the ins and outs! I learn something new almost every day that makes my work more enjoyable and efficient.
9:51 it can be done by setting up groups in Pro Tools with CMD+G and selecting tracks into a group. I usually work this bit into mix prep where I’ll make groups I know I’m going to use and then if something comes up in the mix I’ll quickly make a group for that particular instance
I’ve worked with Pro Tools forever. It is amazing to be able to send and work with everyone. Seems like every professional grade studio I’ve been to, they use Pro Tools.. Every basement studio I have been to, most use Logic. When you have to take your basement recording to a professional grade studio. You’ll usually need Pro Tools. I think you will Be very happy. Love your videos for years please continue with all of the Amazing content!
Based on one of your last videos, where you mentioned moving into being a producer, switching to ProTools, which most guys use, it’s an easy and smart decision really.
Here's a tip for the master bus... you're currently sending to a Pro Tools BUS called Master (or whatever) so just make an AUX track called Master Bus (or master track or whatever nomenclature you prefer). Now your plugins will be pre-fader. That track will output directly to your hardware but you can intercept that signal flow by using a "Master Fader" type of track like you've already discovered... but it's optional. I also have a BUS and AUX track called CUE which outputs to my headphone amp. Pro Tools TIP... You don't have to use the default busses. In fact, I rarely do. I frequently create a new bus/track as an output destination for a track since it can be done in 1 step. Sweet for sending a track to a new reverb bus/track. Just click on the output and choose "new track..." at the bottom of the popup menu. That way the new bus AND the new track both have the name of your choice, like VoxVerb or DelayThrow.
When I was in high school I wanted to learn how to play the piano, so I went to Guitar Center and bought a small MIDI controller that came with Ableton Live 9 Lite for free, which all that meant to me at the time was I could use whatever sounds I wanted with this keyboard, instead of being stuck with stock built-in sounds. Almost 10 years later and Ableton Live 10 Suite has remained my DAW of choice simply because it's the one I had and the one I used.
Moving multiple faders? Assign them to a Mix Group & “Bob’s your uncle”. There’s plenty of documentation on how to do that, how to easily move only one fader once you have a Mix Group created, and how to toggle groups on & off.
If you make a group (ex. Guitars) you can click on the group and control all faders for the entire group. They don’t even need to be bussed first. You can add any tracks to any group and control them. Similarly after they’re bussed.
I started on ACID years ago and it was great for EDM at the time. Then Cakewalk because it did MIDI better. Then Cubase because it has an artist friendly workflow. All of them were great. I am now a faithful Protools user after several years. Artists who partner with me appreciate walking out with their bundles that translate easily to most other professional studios. I tried Reaper, but I could not get past the initial learning curve of it, and did not want to spend days and weeks figuring out a new workflow.
I started on one of those old Tascam 4 tracks back in the 90's then recorded on an SSL with my band in 1998 (which I had to drop out of high school to fund). Started producing and managing other groups and moved to the larger 16 track "portastudios" in the early 2000's. It was around that era I also started recording with Cubase. Ended up moving to Adobe Audition for a couple years before I started being interested in pro tools. Got into protools for several years and then I got sick of paying $30\month. These little bills every month stack up (waves subscription, slate subscription, etc) so I started messing with Reaper and used it off and on for a few years and now it's my main DAW. I learned from my boy who owns Simplekill Studios and Paul Trust who have always been cool enough to answer the dumbest of questions. I ended up trying to polish my skills by enrolling in Warren Huart's school for a year and supplement that education with youtubers like Glen, Ola, Fluff, etc, etc.... Also learned ALOT about music from all the bands that sing about my career. It's been a f'n trip!
You can definitely move multiple faders at one time by creating a group. Those groups are really controlled too with single stroke keyboard commands in the mix window.
Actually my experience goes back to the analog days, but got backing playing music instead of recording. Then about twenty years ago I decided to check out the DAW world and got Logic and a few months later an opportunity to work in audio editing came up took it. Where I was working was a Pro Tools shop so I had to learn it and then switched to Pro Tools at home too. Once again I left to go back to playing instead of recording. Now retired I decided to get into recording again to see what it's like in 2024. I started with Ableton and it has some nice features but I didn't like the workflow. Since I had Macs I switched to Logic Pro. Liked it better the workflow was more familiar to me, but something just wasn't right. So once again I switch from Logic to Pro Tools. I've been back with Pro Tools about three months now and enjoying it. Yes, you need to understand recording fundamentals of signal path and routing but in learning that you get more control over everything in the session. Plus Pro Tools is the best for editing. Yes, Pro Tools has a bit of a learning curve but it's one worth learning, plus as the guy in the video said you start working with mixing and mastering engineers you going to need to know some Pro Tools.
Exact same reasons I changed, and exact same loves and irritations haha. You’re right, there’s no such thing as a perfect DAW, but if you collaborate with other producers/engineers, PT is the best choice.
let's go! but also like... a video i rarely see. I started with pro tools as a real daw in 2000 or so, but then switched to sony vegas then cubase/nuendo then logic and then reaper and now back to pro tools. i still use reaper for many things (like mastering) and logic/cubase for certain projects. but my default is pro tools because it is so freaking organized when working with large sessions and many takes. along with insane editing power and speed. I very much agree with if you are working on your own stuff use whatever you want. For the fader thing, pro tools uses groups which makes it a LOT faster after it is set up than logic or other daws. you can quickly activate and deactiviate groups as you wish and customize stuff very precisely. Also you can quickly toggle all groups on and off. My template has all the groups already setup for when i need them. it's an extra setup step, but it's better imo than how it is done in other DAWs. granted cubase allows you to also control the plugins with groups and pro tools doesn't, which would be super helpful when managing guitar tones and stuff. Also I have the perpetual license, but i usually upgrade every year and the last few years avid has actually made the updates really worth it with more and more features i use regularly. The support imo is pretty decent. likely better than other DAWs because money is flowing in regularly. Best newer features of pro tools that make it surpass any DAW for larger sessions: - track markers - multiple global marker tracks -midi playlists (for comping) - search and filter features in marker list
I use Reason. As a rock guitarist who also produces music for people in other genres and who is also a visual learner, it’s been great. I’ve been stuck with them ever since the line 6 ux2 that came with Reason Limited 🤓 I was mostly taught in college on pro tools but never really gelled with it but it’s been referred to as “the industry standard” for as long as I can remember so I get it.
I always love when I find the other Reason user 😅 - I've used it for years and prefer it as well. Been learning Reaper lately now that I'm beginning to work more with other people.
Welcome back, sir! "Toolage" user for over 20 years. I see it as others do with any DAW - a tool to create! You should investigate avid Interfaces...Pro Tools Carbon has been an absolute game changer for me and, I would highly recommend it for anyone using pro tools. This or any HD interface would make latency a complete after thought. The group / track select functions in PT are absolutely inferior to other daws...but once you get use to grouping it can be as fast as any other DAW. Personally I wouldn't care so much about naming groups or group presets, most certainly if my intentions are to create appropriate groups/VCA's at a later point. That allows me to select tracks as fast as I can and not think about group hierarchy in the creation process. Folders are are way to mitigate the clunky mouse/group functions. I would recommend to anyone interested in PT - don't get sucked in to the subscription model if you don't need to. If you can buy perpetually - you save more money to upgrade pro tools than the subscription model yearly. Key Shortcuts are the way to go.
So stoked for your Pro Tools journey. I'm not in front of my computer right now but the command "Do To Selected" may work for your multiple faders, one click problem. If memory serves, do to all is the shift key and do to selected is the option key. I know that works for things like mute, solo, and even changes to i/o.
I had a similar experience but in reverse, I had to learn Logic to work at a music academy because the majority of students use Logic Pro. Also you can move multiple faders together in Pro Tools
Pro tools is necessary to learn due to it being the industry standard. People may not like it and it is slowly changing but it's the reality we live in. If you use hardware effects Pro Tools is your friend. Personally, I like Logic and Luna. Luna reminds me of how it was when I was young. I was just in the studio to play or sing my parts and then help in the production so I got familiar with Pro Tools but we were recording to tape at most sessions I did. I later got Sonar at home. For our band writing and recording our demos it was great. I have a perpetual license for Pro Tools Studio. I have Logic, Reaper,Luna, and Studio One. The new Studio One would be great if it wasn't so buggy. It crashes on me too much. I haven't spent much time in Reaper. If I am writing or doing my own stuff I either use Logic or Luna then Pro Tools if I am sending it out.
Studio One pro is where it's at I think as far as ease of use and results. But everybody has a different perception. I've tried them all and I always land back at studio One.
I started with Mixcraft in 2015 for a few years. When I started taking audio classes in college around 2018 I had to learn Pro Tools since that’s what they offered and I’ve been using it since then. Personally I felt it was fairly easy to learn
Regarding everyone else's advice for your query at 9:44, creating a group is one way to do it but it can be a bit of a nuisance if you want to solo a single track. My preferred method would be to select all the tracks you want to group, right click one of them and hit "move to folder". As long as you select "routing folder" instead of "basic folder" it will stick them all in a collapsible folder that you can also put your bus processing plugins on (especially useful on drums)!
Chris Lord Alge said to create an aux track for your mix bus. So there you would have all your bus processing and then that aux goes to the master. No plugins on the master. That solves the gain issue with lowering the volume of your master.
i've split my time between Reaper, Cubase, Studio One, some Logic, some Ableton, some FL Studio, whereas Cakewalk was my first back in 1999. I'm heavily particular about features and functions, of which I've been able to finesse out of Reaper, Cubase and Studio One for the most part. The fact I have Pro Tools, I need to really dive into it, set it up and learn it after years of not using it (mainly for college). However, my work flow often is "massive" in mind and I've peaked my M2 Pro a couple times in DAWs that don't use efficiency cores (Studio One, Logic, Ableton). But yeah. PT is something I need to jump on for college purposes, and also a bit more of Ableton as well. I still have some comfort in my basic writing modes in Reaper/Cubase/Studio One. My gripe would be if I cannot drag from the timeline into a sampler or plugin for sample/wavetable conversion operations. But there's always something that works even if it's 1 or 2 steps longer to do. I don't have option paralysis of DAWs, but each one definitely has some features that I find useful that I wish all could come together under one DAW explicitly.
I've done the same, I really think it's worth it to stop jumping around. It will slow you down and reduce your creative output 100%. I have settled on Cubase for the past 3 years after using many of those other ones also, Studio One the longest. I always liked it from a usability perspective but too much crashing, poor CPU utilization. Cubase took a while to get customized and settled in but it is much more reliable. Pro Tools also great for some things but besides the Reaper, which is a complete wormhole, Cubase seems the most complete to me.
@@ezrashanti Cubase out of all I have is preferred. kind of wish my upcoming college classes used it to be honest. I can fly quite a lot of ideas in it today, even with the efficiency cores of the M2 Pro. But always curious to other environments like Studio One or Logic or Pro Tools. I just like knowing stuff even if I'm told it's redundant or a big waste of time.
@@BrandonSills For sure, I'm the same way. I actually run a small commercial studio and we run PT HDX, because it really is great for low latency tracking if people want to run their auxes through Pro Tools. But a lot of people where I live also use Logic, I think just due to the $200 one time purchase and ease for new people. But for a DAW that can truly do everything (besides some super sound designy things in Bitwig and Ableton) Cubase is my fav. I think it's very popular in pro studios in Europe, while the US mostly runs PT. I can setup PT and record a live band, and comp takes, but I spend my extra learning time getting better/faster in Cubase :) Also, for people who are very new, Steinberg has some extremely affordable audio interfaces where you can control the dsp (low latency effects) from within Cubase, like a baby PT HDX or Carbon. But they start at like 200 bucks.
Create a group with the tracks you want to control all at once. Then you can move the fader, mute, solo etc all at once from any given grouped tracks. Im sure someone has already mentioned this though.
You can create groups to move multiple faders at a time. Example: highlight all guitar tracks , hit command G , name the group. Done. I have a hot key set up to enable and disable groups.
9:43, you can address this (and several other issues) by using grouping as well. If you group these tracks together (say, guitars), you can adjust fader values for the entire group instead of track by track.
ProTools is geeat! However, as a Mac user, one gripe is that every year when Apple upgrades Mac OSX, it always break ProTools and you have to wait for months to be able to update the OS. Avid did not really seemed to step to the plate to fix the compatibility issues! Then they started changing the subscription model and that was it for me! I switched to Logic, but I do miss ProTools to be honest!
100% spot on. Funny how I switch from Pro Tools to Logic for the exact same reasons you shared. I work in a solo environment so Logic is better for me, but glad to hear your success is driving a need for Pro Tools.
You can control multiple faders just by creating mix groups in pro tools. Yes it is easier in logic to just select multiple phases, but you can accomplish the same work flow between the two DAWS by creating mix groups and then enabling or disabling the group to allow you to control one fader at a time or all of them. I went the opposite from ProTools to logic so if you need any help, I’m happy to translate for you sometime if you want.
I started in Logic which was awesome for MIDI but I wasn’t crazy about the audio editing. So I switched to Pro Tools where I loved the audio recording/editing, but still used Logic for MIDI heavy projects. Now I work in cubase and it does everything in a way that’s easy for me. To each their own.
It's the industry standard. Reaper users be damned lol you can get professional results on anything, but being able to walk into most studios and be able to work is always a plus.
I have a portable Reaper install with all of my desert island plugins and the exact same config as how it's setup on my own PC including all my custom shortcuts, actions, scripts and theme on a 128GB USB stick and I can walk into literally any studio in the world, plug it in and be ready to work with my preferred workflow in less than 5 minutes.
I agree that every professional should know how to run a session in Pro Tools, but I don't use it everyday anymore, it takes too much to make very simple stuff. I've tried Reaper in 2012 after trying all major DAW's and it's still the one I use to this day.
@@jazzzfer I'm a recording and mixing engineer, if someone sends me a project that is partially mixed I will ask them to send me processed and raw versions of the tracks to import into my preferred DAW so I can pick up where they left off. There are so many different options for plugins now that even if you use the same DAW, unless you severely limit yourself by sticking to stock plugins, the chances of having the same plugins is very low, so trading project files like that just doesn't make sense any more.
Great video Fluff!, Good luck on your new DAW journey. I'm excited to hear how it goes. I use Mixcraft 10 Pro Studio. In the past, I mainly lived in a windows world and I searched for a DAW that was adequate for home use and also worked well in Windows. I gave Mixcraft a shot and overall, I've been very happy with it, especially since I'm just a bedroom player/RUclipsr. Happy New Year !!!
As far as the master track, lots of us PT users will send everything to a mix bus, which feeds and aux track which means that all FX are pre-fader again.
I've been on Studio One for 15 years.. Works for me as I dont work with others.. but for someone like Fluff who works with others Pro Tools is a no brainer..
Cores running depend on how many plugins are loaded on a bus. It's better to spread things out on different busses to get more cores activated. This is how it works for all DAWs from what I understand.
I went with Mixcraft Pro Studio a few years ago. I recently tried out Ableton and Cubase to give them a try. After a few weeks with each I decided to go back to Mixcraft. Mixcraft is much easier to navigate, make edits, access and tweak plug-ins, and outright use. I'd love to use Pro Tools but am not ready to make the change to a Mac for just a DAW....we'll see though lol.
I use studio one. It’s honestly just what I’m used to. I find how everything is laid out to be very intuitive. It works great with any audio device, Bluetooth or not. Pro tools always messes up when I use my AirPods with it. Also it’s just pretty. It’s a very aesthetically pleasing daw.
Well I tried switching to Cubase from Reaper and thankfully I demoed it first. I loved all the stock plugins, the drum editor and midi editor but it was frustrating trying make folders and sends. It took longer to load up and not all my plugins showed up. ToneX would crash frequently and that’s my main amp sim , so that was a big complication. I found Reaper’s drum editing mode, so the big reason to switch was gone. I know that SD3 has a built in drum editor, but I wanted to use drums from Spitfire Audio as well.
You can group all highlighted tracks together with Command G. However I perfer to create a summing folder (which is Pro Tools version of track stacks) with Command-Option-Shift-N and use those like a bus.
you can, as mentioned, but have to bus them. So, an extra step just to do that. You have to make sure that that the box is ticked in the group settings. But it will always be that way so then if you want to move one fader you either have to disable the group or i think you can control/cmd click and it will suspend the track from the group... if memory serves. Sometimes, staying in the group can mess things up if you forget and make a volume move. Now you've moved the volume of all the tracks. I too wish they would make it so you can just select the tracks you want to tweak or at least make a quick link option like in Cubase.
I used to dabble in FL studio way back. It was so intuitive to use I could figure out just about how to do everything I needed to. And that was in a time where youtube didn't exist. Don't know what FL studio is like these days
The only reasons to use ProTools is the situations you mentioned. Having to use it in multiple pro studios, compatibility between projects and if you’re using lots of outboard gear with an HDX rig. I’ve had to learn to track my vocalist and understand what’s going on in his studio. It would actually be much easier for project compatibility between is, but Protools feels so archaic compared to most other daws.
I was kidding. I’m actually switching to recording on vintage wax cylinders.
@@RiffsAndBeards Big fan of your early stuff! Such as: “Watson! Are you there?!?”
Weird how much of a pissing match for daw use commenters seem to bring to the youtube comment section.. 😂 your reply is hilarious. In a world where music has less and less relevance in day to day life - seemingly by the day… there are still thousands of people who are out there arguing one’s level of selling out if your not recording live and direct to master tape/cutting to vinal or best and least sell out.. the the wax edison cylinder 🎉 its always great to hear the opinions of others who actually use multiple daws… if someone isnt fluent in logic and protools its silly.. one thing in studios when you get logic files we always laughed about .bip and called it bounce into protools files - yes we know what it actually stands for… anyway kudos and a happy new year. 🎉
Duuude, thats sooooo analog.
Based Analogue Enjoyer
Haha, that's what everyone watching the video assumed from the title.
Moving multiple tracks with one fader, you need to make a group. Select all the guitar tracks and press command G, creates a group and they are then linked as one.
Glad someone beat me to it. This drove me insane when I first got Pro Tools. It's still less convenient than being able to just highlight a bunch of tracks and move them instantly, but it's definitely better than not being able to move them in groups at all.
yep, and you can turn the grouping on and off once you've done it as well. I learnt Pro Tools first when I did my audio engineering degree so moving to other DAWs that don't have that feature still annoys me. Though my ultimate DAW would be Pyramix if it was actually affordable for a home user, really miss using it from my days working in a mastering studio!
Still not a good and intuitive workflow
Yep that’s the way to do it! 👍🏼
protools does everything you just need to learn it. I'm going to get into reaper one day.
Switching to reaper was the best move I made tbh
I wimped on learning Reaper, ending up on Cubase. But wow, Reaper is powerful !
Reaper is the Firefox of DAW's, aka the best
+1 for reaper. Although, beat detective in protools is better than reaper’s dynamic split for drum editing.
Same! 🤷♂️
Same! 😎 Did half a year ago. Best decision.
I Switched To Reaper 15 years ago. I Am Stoked.
As a 'one man band', working at home, Reaper (4+ years) has met all of my meager needs from a DAW. And yes I have paid for it. Amazing on-line support community. Constant free updates.
As a professional musician, I can see using Pro Tools. It is the industry standard. It's an expensive program that you never own. Safe travels.
Reaper is all I know, and I have no reason to try anything else at this point.
Not true you can totally purchase a perpetual license. It did break a few years ago if you updated to Apple Silicon without an update plan but they do support Perpetual licenses still and plan to continue doing so. Avid is a very hated company but they were actually bought out a few years ago and I think they have been making much more customer friendly choices since, to try to repair their bad reputation. I primarily use Cubase.
You can own Pro Tools
Hey Fluff, I thought it was worth mentioning that PT doesn't HAVE to be a subscription. They did bring back perpetual licensing a few years ago, but the way it works is weird. You have to start with a subscription, and then you can upgrade that subscription to a perpetual license for what I think is the cost of the second year. The only catch is that Avid themselves don't actually handle the perpetual upgrades. For instance, I got PT last year on an education discount at a rate of $99/year. When my license comes up in May, I'll then go to Sweetwater and purchase an upgrade to a perpetual license for another $99. I think that's definitely worth the price if you plan to be in Pro Tools for a long time! Hope this wasn't something you already knew!
Careful with that, Protools doesn’t update automatically, you have to purchase software update plans from them
@loganbower264 I did know that, but I think it'd still be cheaper to buy the perpetual license and then only upgrade when I absolutely have to. Idk though, what do you think about it?
Pro Tools Ultimate perpetual is $1,499
I purchased mine in about 2016. I got the perpetual license but I never paid support. I have a CS degree don't need that kind of help. Learning to use the product and supporting yourself can be done in the forums and RUclips videos. I'm still using it with the basic AIR plugins bundle and I love it. I'm mastering my friends metal album with stock plugins and it sounds great. DAW is DAW but you need something that's fully featured and easy to use. Protools seems to be one of the easiest to use. A perfect mix of tech access and simplicity with an intuitive Windows app look and feel. The plugins are all pretty nice too.
Avid tricked me out of my OG perpetual license with the promise of a $99/year subscription .... which then gradually wound up being $299/year, while at the same time offering new buyers $99/year. I asked their support if I (as a 10+ year protools user) could get the same deal, and after about 2 weeks and a handful of emails they eventually agreed to let me renew one time for $99. I replied telling them to cancel my subscription. Immediately got on sweetwater and purchased another new $599 perpetual license that I will just ride into the sunset. No more bait and switch subscription bullshit.... ever.
I have been using Pro Tools for many years but now, as my daughter is getting old enough to understand the swearing words, I have purchase a Mac Studio and Logic for a planned migration.
After 20 years I changed from PC and Cakewalk Sonar to Mac Mini M4 and Logic Pro X.
Pro Tools is completely GOATed, only DAW I’ve used for 13 years now. Key commands are your friend, learn all of them!
In regards to 9:44, you can move multiple tracks at once you just have to group them first by selecting your tracks, hitting Command G, then you’ll be able to! Just as an update for Fluff and everyone else!
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@@RiffsAndBeards Also once groups are created, you can globally toggle suspending groups by "Command Shift G". This way you don't have to keep creating/deleting the groups to work with individual tracks. Grouping gets pretty deep if you want it to. Investigate the different options in the groups menu like "Modify Groups", etc. This is in the lower left corner of the edit window. If you don't see it there, look at the main menu and toggle on "View > Other Displays > Track List"
Pro tools user since 1996 here - I recommend learn a shortcut every day - specially all combinations of track and plug-in selections with command / option and shift and editing with tab to transient. Learn also to manage plug-in latency and downstream bus and master latencies. Command/option/shift selections work with many different things - tracks, regions, plugins across tracks, on the track list on the left, on the mix window and edit window. Pro tools has robust fader grouping since the 90’s (before folders and VCAs existed) - learn that on the bottom left of the screen and the shortcuts to turn them on and off as needed - I recommend you read the manual for the sections you want to learn and practice it. The manuals are very comprehensive, covering every single thing.
Use an Aux for your Mix Bus so your plug-ins are prefader but assign a Master fader to that mix Bus’s input so you can adjust your input level if you’re too hot/low.
Also, you can have many master faders in your session so you can use these as input controls to your internal bussing for all instruments
Congrats on your downgrade!
😂 I thought the same thing
So true.
Lol! Studio 1 is much better.
Pro tools is great except for the part where they rip you off annually for the rest of your life. It seems they are trying save a slowly sinking ship. Time to adapt and stop being such an elitist brand.
@@MrKenward777 What a misinformed post.
So, most PT users say the same thing - "there are a lot of things that make PT the industry standard". And when asked for those reasons, nobody - and I mean NOBODY - can answer the question.
From this video for example, the pros are:
- tutorials - not a part of PT itself really, but sure
- all cores are used - more of a Logic problem really, other DAWs use all cores too
and, uh, that's it? I guess the real reason for using PT is... everyone else keeps using PT, because they have been doing that for years. Not a completely bad reason, but also nothing to be excited about really.
@@BananaManPL It‘s the most important reason tho, if you want to work with other professionals or in other studios.
If not, then anything is pretty much good enough.
I switched to Logic 10 years ago for a one time purchase of $200 and have loved the frequent updates and features without having to be charged extra or a subscription. I am stoked.
Yeah, it's one of apple's only good consumer-friendly products
@ Been using Macs for over 12 years with zero issues, unlike the constant headaches I encountered with Windows systems prior but to each their own.
Apple worth 1 trillion dollars avid worth 1.0 billion with new loss 😢 if Apple was only one out here u think it will be free yea just like the mall better support the company before they gone out of business 😅 some time u got invested in these businesses
@@TrapBoiFuse561 The problem with Apple is, like Fluff said, they just don’t (need to) care about Logic.
They could kill it off tomorrow and it wouldn’t impact them in the slightest.
Hardcore REAPER user here...I always say that REAPER's almost limitless customizability is it's greatest strength as well as it's greatest weakness...the user has to be wiling to commit the time to make it work the way they want it to, but once it is it's a pure pleasure to use...
I've tried many DAWs including Pro Tools, nothing is as convinient and easy to use as Studio One.
The drag and drop, ui/ux and features are just top notch.
Good call ! Ya Studio One is the shit. I always think it's funny when people mention problems with other DAWs cause almost anything they say I'm like...ya Studio One already does that hahah
Heyyy Fluff,
I wanna share a quick tip about Pro Tools and grouping tracks together.
You can follow the shortcut after selecting multiple tracks (Cmd + Shift + G), naming said group and hitting enter.
You can also group inserts together, mute, solo, automation modes, and you can save these as separate configurations inside the group window.
Also, there is something called Key Focus in Pro Tools.
It shows up on both the edit window and the mix window and it is a ltitle yellow square that says ABC and you can toggle it on and off.
In the edit window it allows you to trim audio, fade it, and a bunch of other things that you may know already but in the mix window if you follow the ABC you can toggle individual groups on and off.
This is handy when you have say, 8 tracks grouped together and you want to move one of them separate from the rest.
You can also achieve this by command-dragging on the track's fader up or down. This will disable the group on that track temporarily.
Pro Tools has a lot of hidden things like these, so have a blast discovering them cause there's a ton!
And of course, welcome to the Pro Tools Fam and Happy New Year 2025!
Started off on Cubase back in '99. Moved to PT in '07. Tried many times over the years to move away from PT, but the workflow always brings me back. I feel like I'm working with one hand tied behind my back in any other DAW.
Pro Tip: Learn the keyboard shortcuts, they are a lifesaver and will speed things up drastically.
I’m excited for you. I started in Cool Edit Pro, then followed it to Adobe Audition. I did some audio classes at a community college and spent time in Pro Tools and Digital Performer. I tried and hated a demo of Abelton. Then, I realized I had Cubase from a bundle that came with a sound card I bought from Musician’s Friend. When my PC was kaput, I got a MacBook Pro and got Pro Tools on the advice of some friends. After battling the upgrades and subscription plan, given I make very little (at least on a consistent basis) from music, I bought Logic and have used it since.
I was never super comfortable in Pro Tools. Logic is easier for me, but it feels less official. Pro Tools has a vibe about it, frustrating as it could be at times, that makes you feel like what you’re recording matters more. It’s totally psychological and probably my own weirdness, but it’s there.
I hope you enjoy it!
I've been using ProTools since 2008, back when I started my audio production degree. I got to learn on a 48 channel SSL Duality console with a ProTools HD setup. It was an amazing experience. I kept using ProTools after graduation because I was familiar with it. The new version is a lot better than the "ProTools 7 M-Powered" version I had in school. You are able to install it on more than 1 machine. I have it on my desktop and my laptop. Also, you shouldn't need a physical dongle anymore. You can sign into your account via the iLok app on the machine you're working on. As far as selecting multiple tracks, you can do that by creating groups in the mix window. You can create multiple groups of tracks, as well as turn the groups off and on. So, if you want to mix each track individually, set the levels, and then be able to move both faders simultaneously later, you would create a group with the tracks you want, turn it off to do adjustments and set levels, then turn it on and be able to move multiple faders simultaneously.
I've done it the otherway around.. I'd never go back to pro tools... expensive and crap. UI still feels like 2005, and working with midi is a pain the ass.
I dunno man. I’ve got 20 years of Pro-Tools sessions. I switched to Reaper and Studio One in 2022 and I haven’t looked back. I couldn’t justify $120/mo for PT Unlimited. Plus most engineers have a variety of DAWs and can work with any session you have. Many mix engineers just need your stems and production notes. AVID has been so far behind the 8 ball for decades that I’m surprised they’re still in business.
I use Harrison Mixbus and it rocks. Does it do everything perfectly? No DAW does but Mixbus has that console style workflow that is just so good.
I've been a Reaper guy for a long time but got the opportunity to have a whole semester of one on one lessons on Pro Tools while I was in university and I came out really really enjoying using it. I still ended up going back to Reaper as my standard because of Atmos functionality being a lot easier there, but Pro Tools is a great program once you learn your way around it and its great having that confidence on the industry standard tool
So you technically can move multiple faders at once, you would have to group the faders to do them though rather than using a key command. It's not as fast as using Logic Pro or even Cubase because you can do that without needing to group channels together. What held me back from continuing to use Pro Tools is because of the subscription model. I would like to upgrade to the next version of Pro Tools, but not at the price of buying a brand new DAW or paying to subscribe to the DAW.
You can of course buy a perpetual license eventually. When your support plan expires you can continue using the most recent version until you want to renew your plan and get all the updates afterward.
Elastic Audio is ridiculously powerful. You can literally do time alignment with three mouse clicks and just do a little clean up. Also, Groups is your friend for batch editing. Enjoy!
I was on Pro Tools for 15 years. Even went to school for Pro Tools. Two or three years ago I switched to Reaper because I was tired of Pro Tools crashing. I haven’t been happier.
Happy for you, man! I hope it improves your work flow and inspires you.
I use Ableton Live Suite and I absolutely adore it. I’ve always heard that Pro-Tools is the industry standard , ironically all of my friends who are producers and engineers, and the engineer of the game professional studio I have to fly out to also uses Ableton now and switched from using both Logic and ProTools!
Fluff, I found this quite timely. I’ve retired from the corporate world where I was essentially a “Court composer” for a multinational that owned multiple “ brands”. The good part was it was essentially a closed loop system almost. As composer I used logic for 25 years. Thus, I would essentially handoff my mixes to the post pro tools jockeys. Basically it bought me the home that I am currently standing in.
Currently….I’ve stumbled into a semi-retirement gig wherein i’m basically teaching remedial audio to freshman college kids, and also beginner pro tools. I’ve not really enjoyed pro tools at all due to the years in logic. But, It’s slowly growing on me. I’m finally starting to get “ if you’re tracking you’re probably going to want to use pro tools.” For experimenting and composition MY experience has been logic is the bomb.
But, thanks for the check up from the neck up. I’ve got two weeks until I get my next batch of beginners. Hopefully I can bring a much better attitude to the task at hand.
Much obliged.
10:08 you can set up groups in pro tools to move multiple faders at once, CMD+G from memory
You can also select the tracks and hold down alt+shift and do it, i think 🤔
There are a lot of great reasons why PT is the “industry standard”. Welcome to the club!
You can create groups (Mix-Edit or both) where you can pull all the faders in. that group (via mix group). Yeah, you have to create the group in advance, but then you can easily select the group once you have done so. Not quite as fast as selecting the tracks on the first go, but once you create your groups, they are faster to select with a single button.
You can control multiple faders by creating groups. Select the tracks you want by clicking whilst holding shift, and then control/cmd + g
Some PT users make a sub mix bus to apply their mastering chain to so then that goes into the Master Bus so you do all your fade out automation on the sub mix bus.
The thing with Master tracks in PT is that they basically affect the audio BEFORE it gets to wherever it's routed to. So if you have a bus going to an Aux with a delay, you can create a master for that bus and control the send volume into the delay. Or you can have multiple masters for different outputs for monitoring, etc. Until I found that out, I thought the Master just acted like the last track of a chain but it's more like a summing instance which the audio moves through to wherever it's routed next, be that an output or different tracks.
Happy New Year and welcome to Pro Tools! I really appreciate it your video. I’ve been using Pro Tools for about 15 years, and I absolutely love it. It feels like home. It gets a lot of hate thrown its way, and it made me feel nice to see someone enter the PT ecosystem and be excited enough to talk about it. I’m stoked for you to discover all of the ins and outs! I learn something new almost every day that makes my work more enjoyable and efficient.
9:51 it can be done by setting up groups in Pro Tools with CMD+G and selecting tracks into a group. I usually work this bit into mix prep where I’ll make groups I know I’m going to use and then if something comes up in the mix I’ll quickly make a group for that particular instance
I’ve worked with Pro Tools forever. It is amazing to be able to send and work with everyone. Seems like every professional grade studio I’ve been to, they use Pro Tools.. Every basement studio I have been to, most use Logic. When you have to take your basement recording to a professional grade studio. You’ll usually need Pro Tools.
I think you will
Be very happy.
Love your videos for years please continue with all of the Amazing content!
Based on one of your last videos, where you mentioned moving into being a producer, switching to ProTools, which most guys use, it’s an easy and smart decision really.
Switching back to Cubase 14 was the best thing ever. (From Reaper...)
Cubase 14 is the best Cubase version ever!
Here's a tip for the master bus... you're currently sending to a Pro Tools BUS called Master (or whatever) so just make an AUX track called Master Bus (or master track or whatever nomenclature you prefer). Now your plugins will be pre-fader. That track will output directly to your hardware but you can intercept that signal flow by using a "Master Fader" type of track like you've already discovered... but it's optional.
I also have a BUS and AUX track called CUE which outputs to my headphone amp.
Pro Tools TIP... You don't have to use the default busses. In fact, I rarely do. I frequently create a new bus/track as an output destination for a track since it can be done in 1 step. Sweet for sending a track to a new reverb bus/track. Just click on the output and choose "new track..." at the bottom of the popup menu. That way the new bus AND the new track both have the name of your choice, like VoxVerb or DelayThrow.
You gotta group the tracks in order to sync the faders.
After all these years the drum sound in your intro is still the best I've ever heard.
When I was in high school I wanted to learn how to play the piano, so I went to Guitar Center and bought a small MIDI controller that came with Ableton Live 9 Lite for free, which all that meant to me at the time was I could use whatever sounds I wanted with this keyboard, instead of being stuck with stock built-in sounds. Almost 10 years later and Ableton Live 10 Suite has remained my DAW of choice simply because it's the one I had and the one I used.
Moving multiple faders? Assign them to a Mix Group & “Bob’s your uncle”. There’s plenty of documentation on how to do that, how to easily move only one fader once you have a Mix Group created, and how to toggle groups on & off.
If you make a group (ex. Guitars) you can click on the group and control all faders for the entire group. They don’t even need to be bussed first. You can add any tracks to any group and control them. Similarly after they’re bussed.
I started on ACID years ago and it was great for EDM at the time. Then Cakewalk because it did MIDI better. Then Cubase because it has an artist friendly workflow. All of them were great. I am now a faithful Protools user after several years. Artists who partner with me appreciate walking out with their bundles that translate easily to most other professional studios. I tried Reaper, but I could not get past the initial learning curve of it, and did not want to spend days and weeks figuring out a new workflow.
I started on one of those old Tascam 4 tracks back in the 90's then recorded on an SSL with my band in 1998 (which I had to drop out of high school to fund). Started producing and managing other groups and moved to the larger 16 track "portastudios" in the early 2000's. It was around that era I also started recording with Cubase. Ended up moving to Adobe Audition for a couple years before I started being interested in pro tools. Got into protools for several years and then I got sick of paying $30\month. These little bills every month stack up (waves subscription, slate subscription, etc) so I started messing with Reaper and used it off and on for a few years and now it's my main DAW. I learned from my boy who owns Simplekill Studios and Paul Trust who have always been cool enough to answer the dumbest of questions. I ended up trying to polish my skills by enrolling in Warren Huart's school for a year and supplement that education with youtubers like Glen, Ola, Fluff, etc, etc.... Also learned ALOT about music from all the bands that sing about my career. It's been a f'n trip!
You can definitely move multiple faders at one time by creating a group. Those groups are really controlled too with single stroke keyboard commands in the mix window.
Actually my experience goes back to the analog days, but got backing playing music instead of recording. Then about twenty years ago I decided to check out the DAW world and got Logic and a few months later an opportunity to work in audio editing came up took it. Where I was working was a Pro Tools shop so I had to learn it and then switched to Pro Tools at home too. Once again I left to go back to playing instead of recording. Now retired I decided to get into recording again to see what it's like in 2024. I started with Ableton and it has some nice features but I didn't like the workflow. Since I had Macs I switched to Logic Pro. Liked it better the workflow was more familiar to me, but something just wasn't right. So once again I switch from Logic to Pro Tools. I've been back with Pro Tools about three months now and enjoying it. Yes, you need to understand recording fundamentals of signal path and routing but in learning that you get more control over everything in the session. Plus Pro Tools is the best for editing. Yes, Pro Tools has a bit of a learning curve but it's one worth learning, plus as the guy in the video said you start working with mixing and mastering engineers you going to need to know some Pro Tools.
Exact same reasons I changed, and exact same loves and irritations haha.
You’re right, there’s no such thing as a perfect DAW, but if you collaborate with other producers/engineers, PT is the best choice.
let's go! but also like... a video i rarely see.
I started with pro tools as a real daw in 2000 or so, but then switched to sony vegas then cubase/nuendo then logic and then reaper and now back to pro tools. i still use reaper for many things (like mastering) and logic/cubase for certain projects. but my default is pro tools because it is so freaking organized when working with large sessions and many takes. along with insane editing power and speed.
I very much agree with if you are working on your own stuff use whatever you want.
For the fader thing, pro tools uses groups which makes it a LOT faster after it is set up than logic or other daws. you can quickly activate and deactiviate groups as you wish and customize stuff very precisely. Also you can quickly toggle all groups on and off. My template has all the groups already setup for when i need them. it's an extra setup step, but it's better imo than how it is done in other DAWs. granted cubase allows you to also control the plugins with groups and pro tools doesn't, which would be super helpful when managing guitar tones and stuff.
Also I have the perpetual license, but i usually upgrade every year and the last few years avid has actually made the updates really worth it with more and more features i use regularly. The support imo is pretty decent. likely better than other DAWs because money is flowing in regularly.
Best newer features of pro tools that make it surpass any DAW for larger sessions:
- track markers
- multiple global marker tracks
-midi playlists (for comping)
- search and filter features in marker list
I use Reason. As a rock guitarist who also produces music for people in other genres and who is also a visual learner, it’s been great. I’ve been stuck with them ever since the line 6 ux2 that came with Reason Limited 🤓
I was mostly taught in college on pro tools but never really gelled with it but it’s been referred to as “the industry standard” for as long as I can remember so I get it.
I always love when I find the other Reason user 😅 - I've used it for years and prefer it as well. Been learning Reaper lately now that I'm beginning to work more with other people.
@ I started working on trying to be proficient in Reaper…that didn’t last long lol
I’m sorry for your lose 😢 you’ll be in my prayers
Welcome back, sir! "Toolage" user for over 20 years. I see it as others do with any DAW - a tool to create! You should investigate avid Interfaces...Pro Tools Carbon has been an absolute game changer for me and, I would highly recommend it for anyone using pro tools. This or any HD interface would make latency a complete after thought. The group / track select functions in PT are absolutely inferior to other daws...but once you get use to grouping it can be as fast as any other DAW. Personally I wouldn't care so much about naming groups or group presets, most certainly if my intentions are to create appropriate groups/VCA's at a later point. That allows me to select tracks as fast as I can and not think about group hierarchy in the creation process. Folders are are way to mitigate the clunky mouse/group functions. I would recommend to anyone interested in PT - don't get sucked in to the subscription model if you don't need to. If you can buy perpetually - you save more money to upgrade pro tools than the subscription model yearly. Key Shortcuts are the way to go.
So stoked for your Pro Tools journey. I'm not in front of my computer right now but the command "Do To Selected" may work for your multiple faders, one click problem.
If memory serves, do to all is the shift key and do to selected is the option key. I know that works for things like mute, solo, and even changes to i/o.
I had a similar experience but in reverse, I had to learn Logic to work at a music academy because the majority of students use Logic Pro. Also you can move multiple faders together in Pro Tools
Pro tools is necessary to learn due to it being the industry standard. People may not like it and it is slowly changing but it's the reality we live in. If you use hardware effects Pro Tools is your friend. Personally, I like Logic and Luna. Luna reminds me of how it was when I was young. I was just in the studio to play or sing my parts and then help in the production so I got familiar with Pro Tools but we were recording to tape at most sessions I did. I later got Sonar at home. For our band writing and recording our demos it was great.
I have a perpetual license for Pro Tools Studio. I have Logic, Reaper,Luna, and Studio One. The new Studio One would be great if it wasn't so buggy. It crashes on me too much. I haven't spent much time in Reaper. If I am writing or doing my own stuff I either use Logic or Luna then Pro Tools if I am sending it out.
Studio One pro is where it's at I think as far as ease of use and results. But everybody has a different perception. I've tried them all and I always land back at studio One.
@chrisdigital has version 7 been stabilized? I heard there were a lot of bugs related to it
I started with Mixcraft in 2015 for a few years. When I started taking audio classes in college around 2018 I had to learn Pro Tools since that’s what they offered and I’ve been using it since then. Personally I felt it was fairly easy to learn
Thank you for your hard work ! i’m sure I’m not the only one that appreciates your content !
I'm sorry for your loss!
I switched from Logic to Cubase a few months ago, and I love it 🙃
Regarding everyone else's advice for your query at 9:44, creating a group is one way to do it but it can be a bit of a nuisance if you want to solo a single track. My preferred method would be to select all the tracks you want to group, right click one of them and hit "move to folder". As long as you select "routing folder" instead of "basic folder" it will stick them all in a collapsible folder that you can also put your bus processing plugins on (especially useful on drums)!
I switched to Reaper after being Pro Tools certified. The workflow and intuitive nature makes it amazing for PC users.
Chris Lord Alge said to create an aux track for your mix bus. So there you would have all your bus processing and then that aux goes to the master. No plugins on the master. That solves the gain issue with lowering the volume of your master.
I went from Pro-Tools to Studio One a long time ago and don't regret it one bit.
You can group tracks together and control all faders (mutes and solos) with one of the group's faders if you don't want to go the VCA route
i've split my time between Reaper, Cubase, Studio One, some Logic, some Ableton, some FL Studio, whereas Cakewalk was my first back in 1999. I'm heavily particular about features and functions, of which I've been able to finesse out of Reaper, Cubase and Studio One for the most part. The fact I have Pro Tools, I need to really dive into it, set it up and learn it after years of not using it (mainly for college). However, my work flow often is "massive" in mind and I've peaked my M2 Pro a couple times in DAWs that don't use efficiency cores (Studio One, Logic, Ableton).
But yeah. PT is something I need to jump on for college purposes, and also a bit more of Ableton as well. I still have some comfort in my basic writing modes in Reaper/Cubase/Studio One.
My gripe would be if I cannot drag from the timeline into a sampler or plugin for sample/wavetable conversion operations. But there's always something that works even if it's 1 or 2 steps longer to do.
I don't have option paralysis of DAWs, but each one definitely has some features that I find useful that I wish all could come together under one DAW explicitly.
I've done the same, I really think it's worth it to stop jumping around. It will slow you down and reduce your creative output 100%. I have settled on Cubase for the past 3 years after using many of those other ones also, Studio One the longest. I always liked it from a usability perspective but too much crashing, poor CPU utilization. Cubase took a while to get customized and settled in but it is much more reliable. Pro Tools also great for some things but besides the Reaper, which is a complete wormhole, Cubase seems the most complete to me.
@@ezrashanti Cubase out of all I have is preferred. kind of wish my upcoming college classes used it to be honest. I can fly quite a lot of ideas in it today, even with the efficiency cores of the M2 Pro.
But always curious to other environments like Studio One or Logic or Pro Tools. I just like knowing stuff even if I'm told it's redundant or a big waste of time.
@@BrandonSills For sure, I'm the same way. I actually run a small commercial studio and we run PT HDX, because it really is great for low latency tracking if people want to run their auxes through Pro Tools. But a lot of people where I live also use Logic, I think just due to the $200 one time purchase and ease for new people. But for a DAW that can truly do everything (besides some super sound designy things in Bitwig and Ableton) Cubase is my fav. I think it's very popular in pro studios in Europe, while the US mostly runs PT. I can setup PT and record a live band, and comp takes, but I spend my extra learning time getting better/faster in Cubase :)
Also, for people who are very new, Steinberg has some extremely affordable audio interfaces where you can control the dsp (low latency effects) from within Cubase, like a baby PT HDX or Carbon. But they start at like 200 bucks.
Create a group with the tracks you want to control all at once. Then you can move the fader, mute, solo etc all at once from any given grouped tracks. Im sure someone has already mentioned this though.
You can create groups to move multiple faders at a time.
Example: highlight all guitar tracks , hit command G , name the group. Done.
I have a hot key set up to enable and disable groups.
9:43, you can address this (and several other issues) by using grouping as well. If you group these tracks together (say, guitars), you can adjust fader values for the entire group instead of track by track.
10:14 you can move multiple faders if they are in a group, the problem is that you'll have toncs of groups :)
Pro tools user for 20 years here. You can group faders together using the group function. Apple-G
ProTools is geeat! However, as a Mac user, one gripe is that every year when Apple upgrades Mac OSX, it always break ProTools and you have to wait for months to be able to update the OS. Avid did not really seemed to step to the plate to fix the compatibility issues!
Then they started changing the subscription model and that was it for me! I switched to Logic, but I do miss ProTools to be honest!
Great timing for me Fluff, as I too am considering a move to PT. Thanks for the review and opinions.
100% spot on. Funny how I switch from Pro Tools to Logic for the exact same reasons you shared. I work in a solo environment so Logic is better for me, but glad to hear your success is driving a need for Pro Tools.
You can control multiple faders just by creating mix groups in pro tools. Yes it is easier in logic to just select multiple phases, but you can accomplish the same work flow between the two DAWS by creating mix groups and then enabling or disabling the group to allow you to control one fader at a time or all of them. I went the opposite from ProTools to logic so if you need any help, I’m happy to translate for you sometime if you want.
I started in Logic which was awesome for MIDI but I wasn’t crazy about the audio editing. So I switched to Pro Tools where I loved the audio recording/editing, but still used Logic for MIDI heavy projects. Now I work in cubase and it does everything in a way that’s easy for me. To each their own.
It's the industry standard. Reaper users be damned lol you can get professional results on anything, but being able to walk into most studios and be able to work is always a plus.
Fluff said the same thing. If you are working on your own you can use whatever
I have a portable Reaper install with all of my desert island plugins and the exact same config as how it's setup on my own PC including all my custom shortcuts, actions, scripts and theme on a 128GB USB stick and I can walk into literally any studio in the world, plug it in and be ready to work with my preferred workflow in less than 5 minutes.
@ what if the session is already started in PT given that people contribute and share projects constantly?
I agree that every professional should know how to run a session in Pro Tools, but I don't use it everyday anymore, it takes too much to make very simple stuff. I've tried Reaper in 2012 after trying all major DAW's and it's still the one I use to this day.
@@jazzzfer I'm a recording and mixing engineer, if someone sends me a project that is partially mixed I will ask them to send me processed and raw versions of the tracks to import into my preferred DAW so I can pick up where they left off. There are so many different options for plugins now that even if you use the same DAW, unless you severely limit yourself by sticking to stock plugins, the chances of having the same plugins is very low, so trading project files like that just doesn't make sense any more.
I have a PT 101 “degree”. I stopped using it about 7-8 years ago. I’ll never go back. Good luck. I hope it works for you.
I’ll add that PT was my first Daw.
I love your videos Fluff. Extremely informative. I have learnt so much from your channel. Happy New Year Dude and to you all!!!!
Man I dont know if I could do anything but Logic right now. Shout out to @MusicTechHelpGuy for being the unofficial mascot of Logic Pro
Great video Fluff!, Good luck on your new DAW journey. I'm excited to hear how it goes. I use Mixcraft 10 Pro Studio. In the past, I mainly lived in a windows world and I searched for a DAW that was adequate for home use and also worked well in Windows. I gave Mixcraft a shot and overall, I've been very happy with it, especially since I'm just a bedroom player/RUclipsr. Happy New Year !!!
As far as the master track, lots of us PT users will send everything to a mix bus, which feeds and aux track which means that all FX are pre-fader again.
I've been on Studio One for 15 years.. Works for me as I dont work with others.. but for someone like Fluff who works with others Pro Tools is a no brainer..
Cores running depend on how many plugins are loaded on a bus. It's better to spread things out on different busses to get more cores activated. This is how it works for all DAWs from what I understand.
I went with Mixcraft Pro Studio a few years ago. I recently tried out Ableton and Cubase to give them a try. After a few weeks with each I decided to go back to Mixcraft. Mixcraft is much easier to navigate, make edits, access and tweak plug-ins, and outright use. I'd love to use Pro Tools but am not ready to make the change to a Mac for just a DAW....we'll see though lol.
I use studio one. It’s honestly just what I’m used to. I find how everything is laid out to be very intuitive. It works great with any audio device, Bluetooth or not. Pro tools always messes up when I use my AirPods with it. Also it’s just pretty. It’s a very aesthetically pleasing daw.
Well I tried switching to Cubase from Reaper and thankfully I demoed it first. I loved all the stock plugins, the drum editor and midi editor but it was frustrating trying make folders and sends. It took longer to load up and not all my plugins showed up. ToneX would crash frequently and that’s my main amp sim , so that was a big complication. I found Reaper’s drum editing mode, so the big reason to switch was gone. I know that SD3 has a built in drum editor, but I wanted to use drums from Spitfire Audio as well.
My preferred Daw is GarageBand… you read that right.
What’s that monitor? Is there an updated studio vid somewhere? I wanna see the newer setup.
You can group all highlighted tracks together with Command G.
However I perfer to create a summing folder (which is Pro Tools version of track stacks) with Command-Option-Shift-N and use those like a bus.
Welcome to the PT family - keep making cool shit ....
you can, as mentioned, but have to bus them. So, an extra step just to do that. You have to make sure that that the box is ticked in the group settings. But it will always be that way so then if you want to move one fader you either have to disable the group or i think you can control/cmd click and it will suspend the track from the group... if memory serves. Sometimes, staying in the group can mess things up if you forget and make a volume move. Now you've moved the volume of all the tracks. I too wish they would make it so you can just select the tracks you want to tweak or at least make a quick link option like in Cubase.
I used to dabble in FL studio way back. It was so intuitive to use I could figure out just about how to do everything I needed to. And that was in a time where youtube didn't exist.
Don't know what FL studio is like these days
Congrats!
The only reasons to use ProTools is the situations you mentioned. Having to use it in multiple pro studios, compatibility between projects and if you’re using lots of outboard gear with an HDX rig.
I’ve had to learn to track my vocalist and understand what’s going on in his studio. It would actually be much easier for project compatibility between is, but Protools feels so archaic compared to most other daws.
Trying new daws keeps me young and sometimes I find new things that become a mandatory going forward of how I work.