This channel will now house all my PGA 2K content. More scripted highly edited PGA 2K content will be uploaded to the main channel. If you are interested in course playthroughs, tips/tricks videos, ranked videos, all the content I was doing around the launch of 2K23, make sure to drop a sub on this channel. Hoping to get to 1K subs before launch! Pretty excited for a new golf game to be released, and 2K25 is looking like its gonna be real good.
Yooo! Entering my notes as I watch along. It's CTLegacy here man hope you are doing well! So pumped for the new game it looks incredible!! The EvoSwing very awesome changes. I will only comment on what I've seen so far at 15:00 you are discussing Swing path Pull vs Push. In golf, if you swing over the top (club is to the RIGHT of the intended swing plane, you will pull the ball. If you are too far inside/out (Left of intended) you will PUSH the ball to the right. That's my analysis on why missing downswing Right is a pull and Left is a push!! At the top where we hit Closed/Open face. That is intuitive because if we over rotate the club to the Left (counter-clockwise on RH golfer) the face closes and under-rotate is open! At the end of EvoSwing here around 18:00 mark, I think you might have missed the biggest thing! The awful swing that goes in the water, that is on Pro difficulty. The next shot that is perfect and doesn't use Rhythm (tempo) is set to Amateur or Pro-am. ALSO a huge thing here, on the easier difficulty, it is straight up/down swing, whereas on PRO difficulty and I assume higher, it's slightly off center swing path. I assume this is to increase difficulty to mimic real golf but is also aleviates a lot of the straight sticking cheating methods that could be used. Overall it's an amazing change. Also, decoupling the Rhythm(Tempo) from the fast/slow mechanic which sends your ball screaming off to the left/right or only going 50 yards is a HUUUUGE deal. This should completely nullify the broken xbox controllers polling rate issue. Now the tempo as you said the swing stick speed is tied to overswing/underswing so a much smaller impact on accuracy overall. Amazing changes for sure!
Yeah, they always go with trying to simulate a golf swing so I think you are right on the interpretation of the swing path. I was looking at it more of game intuitiveness. It could be confusing to people. Someone pointed out that I missed the straight up and down shot. I am also in the belief now that higher difficulties will introduce a non straight up and down shot, maybe for draw/fade.
Hey, really good to see a video of yours again with the usual detailed and knowledgeable content (as well as a few laughs) - great to see you back - I subbed 🙂
Schaweet, glad PGA 2K and you are back Respawn. Your vids always cut the clutter, zero in on what’s important, and spice with humor……looking forward to 2K25.
Nice to see you back for the golf! I just hope the EVO swing won’t be a pain in the ass lol but gonna have to learn anyways, great breakdown on the trailer! Thanks again! Hope to see you on the links!
The swing mechanics changes really sell me on this, I dont mind the old style, but its not really how a golf swing works in real life. We needed something to spice it up and challenge the better players a little more. The option to have a fat ass is also nice, I must admit...
Having more feedback and information on the swing is a huge sell for me. Finally I will know exactly why my ball went the way it did. Also, RIGHT?! Thick boys are back on the menu!
@@RespawnTwo And I believe the off-center swing is for shot shaping? Seems like moving the angle left or right for diagonal shots on the stick to hit fades or draws? That is my assumption on this, which will be more difficult...but I think they might be able to pull it off...unlike EA, which is damn near impossible.
I think so too. Your golfer might have a tendency off drive as well. Not sure if Tiger favors a draw off the tee, I think he does, but that might be why the tee shot was favoring left? I am pretty sure it is fade and draw though like you do.
At 5:32 in this video, I thought it was a black John D. The big boys are back in town. I can not wait to play this year. I have been playing golf games since Tiger gave us the first one. What I have been missing is slow-motion if you have a great shot. I saw that they will let you direct the roll path, but I hope they put it back in slow mode when you do a crazy good shot or something Pro-like.
The game looks great. Hopefully they have fixed the ball drops from hazards etc. Also i really hope they still don't give us the pitch shot by default from like 125 yards out. Nice video, good to see you back.
At 14:38 the bottom slightly missed to the right but it’s still in the box so it would still register as a perfect don’t think the bottom is swing path at all… Pretty sure the “line” you draw is still ur swing path, its curved as well not straight so maybe the line is still considered swing path? Pull shows a curved line to the left and the drawn line in the meter is slightly curved to the left as well… Just like the white line in 23 going down the middle was ur swing path I think on here it’s just the line you draw in between the top and bottom
The line in between is the path of ur swing from point A to point B… I think as long as you hit both marks in a straight line it doesn’t really matter how you pull the stick back… little deviation in the pull back won’t matter it’s what’s in between the swing that determines ur swing path atleast that’s how I interpreted it 🤷🏻♂️ makes sense to me tho I mean fuck Jim furyk swing is horrible… I think you can still have an ugly ish swing as long as what’s in between pulling back and finishing is clean know what I mean…
I hope they take a page from MLB the show and in ranked as you win and get higher the difficulty goes up. It does look like when the show the par to condor swing perfect impacts, the one on condor does looks smaller. Now this could be an archetype or something like that. But it just makes sense the better you are the harder the difficulty we should be playing on.
I gave this piece of feedback to them back during the preview event for the ranked when it released. I'm with you, I hope that they take the page from MLB as well. Would make ranking impactful.
@@RespawnTwo This to me would be the second most impactful thing they have added, with cross platform society play being number one. I would actually play rank if it was something I could play on masters and higher.
I see the golf officials are raising their arms to shush the gallery prior to shots which is a nice touch. Kind of wish they also had the galleries roped in but perhaps that would cause frame rate issues, etc
Hey 👋 Respawn great to have you back , little worried that its going down the EA route on the swing mechanics. As a true simmer its great that society's will be cross platform, will you be going through all the difficulty settings and what we can turn off on the 21st feb . Cant wait for overall rundown on the game when you actually get your hands on it .
I noticed certain shot types didn’t have all 4 swing attributes. The stinger only had transition and swing plane. Maybe it was just a function of the difficulty level like you pointed out from one of the shots. Also, when the points multiplier was on 1.00 vs 1.50, the swing analyzer was straight up and down. This made me think on higher difficulty levels the proper swing path may not be straight up and down. Or, it could just be draw and fade like EA.
Yeah, missed that. I think it is a fade/draw mechanic too. And like everything they have, it's probably something you can turn off in the settings to fine tune difficulty.
For the love of God, if they finally removed the divots on the tee, can we finally place our own tee on the tee box like Golden Tee has had for 20 fricken years?
Nice video. Had a brainwave on that still showing the number of followers at 18th Scottsdale. What if the number of followers you build up in career translates to the crowd watching you? That tee looked cramped! If you're starting off, do you only have a few peeps following you in the course?
That would an absolute stellar point of realism that I would applaud if they did. When you are new you have 10 people watching but as you grow so does the crowds.
I think this game looks beautiful compared to the last few games & the career mode looks & seems very promising.. I’m excited to see how they handle the majors for the first time & I really think that’ll be fun to see the comparison from EA to 2K .. The new swing let’s be real IS the meat and potatoes of this game I have played these games like yourself from when this company was just HB & The Golf Club… I know they’ve taken EA’s lead game designer or something along those lines I can’t quite remember … Idk how much he has control over the title but I’d imagine it’s quite a big important role .. & ohhhh boy can you tell by the shot type logos LOL they look very familiar & that’s fine because the shot types were good in EA I just don’t know if they were truly executed properly tbh .. I also see they’ve now a levelling up system for your golfer in terms of overall .. Again similar to EA’s approach but this isn’t new in sports titles but it’s definitely new in this 2K franchise it’ll be interesting to see how that’s handled & affects your pro will we see truly different builds of golfer or will it just become some form of meta & overall doesn’t mean much outside a number & gained stat boosts.. or unlocks for shot types .. But as I said THE EVO Swing is there evolution here is the real question now the feedback shown immediately has me much more excited.. BECAUSE ITS EXPLAINED & has reasoning & shows you hey dipshit maybe change X aspect of your swing for a better quality swing .. Which boy oh boy it took 2K a minute to figure out this whole swing mechanic shit huh? I feel like 2K21 it was dog shit on anything above pro 2K23 it definitely improved but it still has issues & inconsistency.. I truly fucking hope this system is fully catered to work on pro as intended but also on whatever the master setting alternative is too .. I can i can cut slack on legend whatever it’s always been shitty there lmao but considering they know a very good portion of the community enjoys the master settings & try to simulate golf I hope it’s been tested & tried & dialed in that it will be consistent & work & still have that skill gap … I think that’s what this community is truly wanting to see in terms of evolution now gamer ability & his in-depth look at the swing scares me a little because it seems THEY MAY have adapted the option of fading & drawing with analog swings being directional.. I don’t think EA has ever truly made that feel like it’s a great feature I personally hate that mechanic.. I think 2K in terms how they dealt with spin loft fades & draws were brilliantly handled .. Now if they have this built from the ground up & it can feel more natural & actually produce good results whatever I’ll shut my mouth and give it up to the 2K team for making such a mechanic work & fun … But if it feels as awful as it has in EA games i will happily turn it off because shaping the ball playing draws & fades man that adds a whole level of FUN & uniqueness to golf because you can see a way to play a hole complete different from someone else .. So I truly hope this mechanic either isn’t a direct EA copy or is disabled among societies like the options for ball sleeves were .. Idk how to feel about if it’s added correctly and it’s fun it can be awesome but if it feels unreliable & has inconsistency then that’ll suck & cause a lot of frustration & probably end up in out cry of people wanting that option being defaulted to being turned off .. Especially if it’s implemented for pro difficulty for online ranked ect .. But I know 2K & HB do love golf & respect the sport so I hope this is the swing system we’ve all been hoping for where partial shots can feel like they were built in as a part of the game & that they have the balance of FUN but a skill gap where it’s still feeling like golf as it has in previous titles .. I think it’s a tough spot to be In but I truly hope this swing system is the best HB & 2K have put together and I believe it can be .. The only other worries and questions I have is I hope the course designer is dramatically improved & has lots of new items & features & this whole Evo tool system idk what that is I hope it’s not some form of arcade feature like ball sleeves where it’s magically making your clubs into wacky out of touch with reality abilities or distances for your drives or whatever .. If that is the case I hope to see those things to be disabled in societies like ball sleeves were in 23.. I’m very excited for this game hopefully bag customisation hopefully multiple bags hopefully animations that make sense for different shots & i truly just hope this games taken and learned from all the mistakes from previous titles & learned what was good & was bad from seeing EA’s golf title & hopefully now we’ll have the ultimate golf product & have a fantastic fun game for all golf fans to enjoy .. I will also say the custom golfer creator looks more promising this time round too.. I also think the pro list is quite disappointing with 11 pros that is kinda meh for the career mode especially considering that’s men & women 11 only .. I’m sure there will be more post launch & not many use the pros but it’s nice to see those players in the career mode ..
Your explanation of Transition is incorrect, as someone that has played 2k23 on Legend with basically all assist off except for green grid for over 300 hours. Transition is the change from your back swing to your follow through. Here's how you can test that, take a swing and pause at your back-swing and then follow thorough you notice how its always at 95% or less? Now take the same swing but follow through faster, or transition faster from your back-swing (don't wait as long), notice how its over 100% to 110%? For the rest you're correct, and I'm with you on your hunch about Rhythm.
Just hoping the swing mechanics don't mimic EA's game. I've loved 2K's swing since the original Golf Club offering as it set it apart from the rest. A bit worried after watching these type of videos. Thank you by the way. Nice job.
Why would they seperate 3 click in ranked there was never an issue? you just got to get better at swing stick. Some guy said thay cant remember his name though can you?
@RespawnTwo you only stand by it because you are stubborn and won't admit you were wrong after patronising viewers about it. Anyone that knows how the mechanics work cannot possibly think it's fair on any level. Go talk to your buddy's about it at least they talk sense
@@RespawnTwo I'm not tilted and why would I not watch your video? most of the time you talk sense and i Iike most of your content but the way you talked to people over said issue over the last couple years like we were pieces of shit annoyed me because you were so wrong and it was pure arrogance
I didn't talk to you like you were pieces of shit. I didn't and don't agree with you, and you CONSTANTLY bring it up as a way to degrade my content or try to change my mind. You don't agree? Ok, move on. We don't have to agree on everything. We are humans and individuals. If you want to stay stuck on this ONE thing for all of your existence, alright, I'm not here to tell you how to live your life.
Wait why, you stopped uploading golf videos and now your back? Guess it's a money thing. Always loved your golf videos but you giving up sucked. Don't give up this time. You should have way more followers, you need to stick with it and not go 10months before your next upload. Edit: as for pros who really cares if there's 100 or 1? You don't use a pro 98% of game play. It disent matter at all. Im also glad the swing is gone from 2k21 and 23. Everyone has to learn and on same page at start. It's only a good thing, don't bitch you won't be good, we all won't be good and thats good. They also need to get rid of 3 click, ain't no PGA star out there doing a 3 click swing on TV. It's not even realalistic. Also tou were always able to remove and add things with swing. Its call beginner mode and you can add things to it like lie angle , swing path, tempo,etc.
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This channel will now house all my PGA 2K content. More scripted highly edited PGA 2K content will be uploaded to the main channel. If you are interested in course playthroughs, tips/tricks videos, ranked videos, all the content I was doing around the launch of 2K23, make sure to drop a sub on this channel. Hoping to get to 1K subs before launch! Pretty excited for a new golf game to be released, and 2K25 is looking like its gonna be real good.
Dude I can't love this enough! I am so glad you are back. You and GamerAbility are my go to guys when it comes to anything golf game related.
Respawn is back!!!! Let's go!!! Great breakdown Zane! Appreciate you sharing my confirmed pros image in your breakdown! You legend!
Gamerrrrrr, thanks for watching! I am actually watching your breakdown right now lol
@ Let’s go!!! Love that! Perfect timing 😂
Love to see you back on the golf bandwagon....I think your reviews of new games is always informative and on the mark.....keep up the good work
Great to see you returning to the new game. Been missing your streams m8.
Thanks Ernie. Can't wait to get back streaming some 2K25
Yooo! Entering my notes as I watch along. It's CTLegacy here man hope you are doing well! So pumped for the new game it looks incredible!!
The EvoSwing very awesome changes. I will only comment on what I've seen so far at 15:00 you are discussing Swing path Pull vs Push. In golf, if you swing over the top (club is to the RIGHT of the intended swing plane, you will pull the ball. If you are too far inside/out (Left of intended) you will PUSH the ball to the right. That's my analysis on why missing downswing Right is a pull and Left is a push!!
At the top where we hit Closed/Open face. That is intuitive because if we over rotate the club to the Left (counter-clockwise on RH golfer) the face closes and under-rotate is open!
At the end of EvoSwing here around 18:00 mark, I think you might have missed the biggest thing! The awful swing that goes in the water, that is on Pro difficulty. The next shot that is perfect and doesn't use Rhythm (tempo) is set to Amateur or Pro-am. ALSO a huge thing here, on the easier difficulty, it is straight up/down swing, whereas on PRO difficulty and I assume higher, it's slightly off center swing path. I assume this is to increase difficulty to mimic real golf but is also aleviates a lot of the straight sticking cheating methods that could be used.
Overall it's an amazing change. Also, decoupling the Rhythm(Tempo) from the fast/slow mechanic which sends your ball screaming off to the left/right or only going 50 yards is a HUUUUGE deal. This should completely nullify the broken xbox controllers polling rate issue. Now the tempo as you said the swing stick speed is tied to overswing/underswing so a much smaller impact on accuracy overall. Amazing changes for sure!
Yeah, they always go with trying to simulate a golf swing so I think you are right on the interpretation of the swing path. I was looking at it more of game intuitiveness. It could be confusing to people. Someone pointed out that I missed the straight up and down shot. I am also in the belief now that higher difficulties will introduce a non straight up and down shot, maybe for draw/fade.
Missed you Respawn !! Cant wait to join you on the 2k25 journey ❤
Hey, really good to see a video of yours again with the usual detailed and knowledgeable content (as well as a few laughs) - great to see you back - I subbed 🙂
looking good glad to see you back
Feels good to be back. I am pretty excited for a new PGA 2K game!
Welcome back buddy! Great video breakdown! No more divots on the tee box!
I'm excited too got a great deal on the EA PGA tour and its been a challenge
Schaweet, glad PGA 2K and you are back Respawn. Your vids always cut the clutter, zero in on what’s important, and spice with humor……looking forward to 2K25.
Thanks for the kind words bpm. Feels good to be back in the saddle. 2K25 time is right around the corner!
Daaammnn! Long time no see! Good to see you back! Happy New Year Respawn!
Great to see you back always great vids
Glad to see you back!
Glad to be back
Nice to see you back man, and sorry about the Lions. I really thought this was the year.
Lions = Sadness
It was never their year, anyway I’m hyped about 2k25 for sure 😊😊😊😊❤
Welcome back mate
Welcome back brother and hope you're feeling better!
Getting better every day. Appreciate the support.
Nice to see you back for the golf! I just hope the EVO swing won’t be a pain in the ass lol but gonna have to learn anyways, great breakdown on the trailer! Thanks again! Hope to see you on the links!
I'll be there!
So glad you are back!!!!!
Glad to see you back...
Thanks jrod! Feels like home making content for PGA 2K again.
It's exciting times for the golf community
Great video bud
5:18 😂😂😂 SAMEEEE haha
good to hear you again respawn keep positive
HE’S BACK BABY LFG 😤🥳
Game looks like an incredible update… holy smokes
Visuals and smooth looking gameplay, I’m impressed
Wow✌🏻Thanks for all of the information! Great video
Good breakdown!!!
i have high hopes for this game and the new swing mechanic, lets go cant wait for cross platform societies to bring community even closer together.
The swing mechanics changes really sell me on this, I dont mind the old style, but its not really how a golf swing works in real life. We needed something to spice it up and challenge the better players a little more. The option to have a fat ass is also nice, I must admit...
Having more feedback and information on the swing is a huge sell for me. Finally I will know exactly why my ball went the way it did. Also, RIGHT?! Thick boys are back on the menu!
@@RespawnTwo And I believe the off-center swing is for shot shaping? Seems like moving the angle left or right for diagonal shots on the stick to hit fades or draws? That is my assumption on this, which will be more difficult...but I think they might be able to pull it off...unlike EA, which is damn near impossible.
I think so too. Your golfer might have a tendency off drive as well. Not sure if Tiger favors a draw off the tee, I think he does, but that might be why the tee shot was favoring left? I am pretty sure it is fade and draw though like you do.
At 5:32 in this video, I thought it was a black John D. The big boys are back in town. I can not wait to play this year. I have been playing golf games since Tiger gave us the first one. What I have been missing is slow-motion if you have a great shot. I saw that they will let you direct the roll path, but I hope they put it back in slow mode when you do a crazy good shot or something Pro-like.
Brilliant video look forward to your new content on 2K25
The game looks great. Hopefully they have fixed the ball drops from hazards etc. Also i really hope they still don't give us the pitch shot by default from like 125 yards out. Nice video, good to see you back.
Fixed hazard drops would be massive. I also hope they got thay squared away.
At 14:38 the bottom slightly missed to the right but it’s still in the box so it would still register as a perfect don’t think the bottom is swing path at all… Pretty sure the “line” you draw is still ur swing path, its curved as well not straight so maybe the line is still considered swing path? Pull shows a curved line to the left and the drawn line in the meter is slightly curved to the left as well… Just like the white line in 23 going down the middle was ur swing path I think on here it’s just the line you draw in between the top and bottom
The line in between is the path of ur swing from point A to point B… I think as long as you hit both marks in a straight line it doesn’t really matter how you pull the stick back… little deviation in the pull back won’t matter it’s what’s in between the swing that determines ur swing path atleast that’s how I interpreted it 🤷🏻♂️ makes sense to me tho I mean fuck Jim furyk swing is horrible… I think you can still have an ugly ish swing as long as what’s in between pulling back and finishing is clean know what I mean…
It could be? At this point we are all guessing lol I could see that the actual swing line could determine swing path and would make sense to do so.
@ agreed lol either way super excited and glad ur back bud
Glad to be back. Can't wait to ladder chase ranked with ya again this year.
I hope they take a page from MLB the show and in ranked as you win and get higher the difficulty goes up. It does look like when the show the par to condor swing perfect impacts, the one on condor does looks smaller. Now this could be an archetype or something like that. But it just makes sense the better you are the harder the difficulty we should be playing on.
I gave this piece of feedback to them back during the preview event for the ranked when it released. I'm with you, I hope that they take the page from MLB as well. Would make ranking impactful.
@@RespawnTwo This to me would be the second most impactful thing they have added, with cross platform society play being number one. I would actually play rank if it was something I could play on masters and higher.
great video breakdown, i hope we can search by designer again!
I need this feature back in. It was one of my favorite from past games and one of the big things I asked for in feedback.
I see the golf officials are raising their arms to shush the gallery prior to shots which is a nice touch. Kind of wish they also had the galleries roped in but perhaps that would cause frame rate issues, etc
That's a good catch. Adds to the realism. I missed that and stared at the still shots for hours.
Stay healthy brother and we appreciate 🙏 you
Hey 👋 Respawn great to have you back , little worried that its going down the EA route on the swing mechanics. As a true simmer its great that society's will be cross platform, will you be going through all the difficulty settings and what we can turn off on the 21st feb . Cant wait for overall rundown on the game when you actually get your hands on it .
As a course designer I’m really hoping to get some info soon
I'm hoping they release a video or a web landing page at least with new info.
I noticed certain shot types didn’t have all 4 swing attributes. The stinger only had transition and swing plane. Maybe it was just a function of the difficulty level like you pointed out from one of the shots. Also, when the points multiplier was on 1.00 vs 1.50, the swing analyzer was straight up and down. This made me think on higher difficulty levels the proper swing path may not be straight up and down. Or, it could just be draw and fade like EA.
Yeah, missed that. I think it is a fade/draw mechanic too. And like everything they have, it's probably something you can turn off in the settings to fine tune difficulty.
For the love of God, if they finally removed the divots on the tee, can we finally place our own tee on the tee box like Golden Tee has had for 20 fricken years?
Yessss
I’m coming from AE PGA and I’m actually new to that. I’m looking forward to this version!
if i ever match with you in ranked im pulling out an iron on a par 5 just to put a divot on the tee box,
Brother, the way this just made me snort laugh. LOL
Nice video. Had a brainwave on that still showing the number of followers at 18th Scottsdale. What if the number of followers you build up in career translates to the crowd watching you? That tee looked cramped! If you're starting off, do you only have a few peeps following you in the course?
That would an absolute stellar point of realism that I would applaud if they did. When you are new you have 10 people watching but as you grow so does the crowds.
@@RespawnTwo Exactly. Just seemed strange to have the graphic of 30k+ followers and a hugely crowded tee box. I just wonder 🤔
Good breakdown mate …👍🏼
I think this game looks beautiful compared to the last few games & the career mode looks & seems very promising..
I’m excited to see how they handle the majors for the first time & I really think that’ll be fun to see the comparison from EA to 2K ..
The new swing let’s be real IS the meat and potatoes of this game I have played these games like yourself from when this company was just HB & The Golf Club…
I know they’ve taken EA’s lead game designer or something along those lines I can’t quite remember …
Idk how much he has control over the title but I’d imagine it’s quite a big important role ..
& ohhhh boy can you tell by the shot type logos LOL they look very familiar & that’s fine because the shot types were good in EA I just don’t know if they were truly executed properly tbh ..
I also see they’ve now a levelling up system for your golfer in terms of overall ..
Again similar to EA’s approach but this isn’t new in sports titles but it’s definitely new in this 2K franchise it’ll be interesting to see how that’s handled & affects your pro will we see truly different builds of golfer or will it just become some form of meta & overall doesn’t mean much outside a number & gained stat boosts.. or unlocks for shot types ..
But as I said THE EVO Swing is there evolution here is the real question now the feedback shown immediately has me much more excited.. BECAUSE ITS EXPLAINED & has reasoning & shows you hey dipshit maybe change X aspect of your swing for a better quality swing ..
Which boy oh boy it took 2K a minute to figure out this whole swing mechanic shit huh?
I feel like 2K21 it was dog shit on anything above pro 2K23 it definitely improved but it still has issues & inconsistency..
I truly fucking hope this system is fully catered to work on pro as intended but also on whatever the master setting alternative is too ..
I can i can cut slack on legend whatever it’s always been shitty there lmao but considering they know a very good portion of the community enjoys the master settings & try to simulate golf I hope it’s been tested & tried & dialed in that it will be consistent & work & still have that skill gap …
I think that’s what this community is truly wanting to see in terms of evolution now gamer ability & his in-depth look at the swing scares me a little because it seems THEY MAY have adapted the option of fading & drawing with analog swings being directional..
I don’t think EA has ever truly made that feel like it’s a great feature I personally hate that mechanic..
I think 2K in terms how they dealt with spin loft fades & draws were brilliantly handled ..
Now if they have this built from the ground up & it can feel more natural & actually produce good results whatever I’ll shut my mouth and give it up to the 2K team for making such a mechanic work & fun …
But if it feels as awful as it has in EA games i will happily turn it off because shaping the ball playing draws & fades man that adds a whole level of FUN & uniqueness to golf because you can see a way to play a hole complete different from someone else ..
So I truly hope this mechanic either isn’t a direct EA copy or is disabled among societies like the options for ball sleeves were ..
Idk how to feel about if it’s added correctly and it’s fun it can be awesome but if it feels unreliable & has inconsistency then that’ll suck & cause a lot of frustration & probably end up in out cry of people wanting that option being defaulted to being turned off ..
Especially if it’s implemented for pro difficulty for online ranked ect ..
But I know 2K & HB do love golf & respect the sport so I hope this is the swing system we’ve all been hoping for where partial shots can feel like they were built in as a part of the game & that they have the balance of FUN but a skill gap where it’s still feeling like golf as it has in previous titles ..
I think it’s a tough spot to be In but I truly hope this swing system is the best HB & 2K have put together and I believe it can be ..
The only other worries and questions I have is I hope the course designer is dramatically improved & has lots of new items & features & this whole Evo tool system idk what that is I hope it’s not some form of arcade feature like ball sleeves where it’s magically making your clubs into wacky out of touch with reality abilities or distances for your drives or whatever ..
If that is the case I hope to see those things to be disabled in societies like ball sleeves were in 23..
I’m very excited for this game hopefully bag customisation hopefully multiple bags hopefully animations that make sense for different shots & i truly just hope this games taken and learned from all the mistakes from previous titles & learned what was good & was bad from seeing EA’s golf title & hopefully now we’ll have the ultimate golf product & have a fantastic fun game for all golf fans to enjoy ..
I will also say the custom golfer creator looks more promising this time round too..
I also think the pro list is quite disappointing with 11 pros that is kinda meh for the career mode especially considering that’s men & women 11 only ..
I’m sure there will be more post launch & not many use the pros but it’s nice to see those players in the career mode ..
Do you thin the pull/push mechanics will differ depending on left/right handed golfers?
That is a good question. To avoid confusion they might keep it the same, but not sure
Also a great idea if you can make a replica famous person to put tutorials up for us to make them
Like a trump, a happy gilmour, another pro golfer
So you're saying there's a chance for you to play another sports game, in which you sworn off a while ago? J/K, Happy New Year Brother! :)
Every time I think I'm out - they PULL me back in.
Happy New Year to you as well!
@@RespawnTwo LOL, happy to see you again as well brother! :)
Your explanation of Transition is incorrect, as someone that has played 2k23 on Legend with basically all assist off except for green grid for over 300 hours. Transition is the change from your back swing to your follow through. Here's how you can test that, take a swing and pause at your back-swing and then follow thorough you notice how its always at 95% or less? Now take the same swing but follow through faster, or transition faster from your back-swing (don't wait as long), notice how its over 100% to 110%? For the rest you're correct, and I'm with you on your hunch about Rhythm.
Just hoping the swing mechanics don't mimic EA's game. I've loved 2K's swing since the original Golf Club offering as it set it apart from the rest. A bit worried after watching these type of videos. Thank you by the way. Nice job.
Why would they seperate 3 click in ranked there was never an issue? you just got to get better at swing stick. Some guy said thay cant remember his name though can you?
Still stand by that, but I hope they do so i don't have to hear from you anymore about it :)
@RespawnTwo you only stand by it because you are stubborn and won't admit you were wrong after patronising viewers about it. Anyone that knows how the mechanics work cannot possibly think it's fair on any level. Go talk to your buddy's about it at least they talk sense
Brother is so tilted still he followed me to the second channel. Lmaooooooo I missed this. I appreciate the view as always
@@RespawnTwo I'm not tilted and why would I not watch your video? most of the time you talk sense and i Iike most of your content but the way you talked to people over said issue over the last couple years like we were pieces of shit annoyed me because you were so wrong and it was pure arrogance
I didn't talk to you like you were pieces of shit. I didn't and don't agree with you, and you CONSTANTLY bring it up as a way to degrade my content or try to change my mind. You don't agree? Ok, move on. We don't have to agree on everything. We are humans and individuals. If you want to stay stuck on this ONE thing for all of your existence, alright, I'm not here to tell you how to live your life.
Can we play with our friends live ghost again in societies? I mean, since cross play...
I hope they fixed the handicap play.
That would be nice. Wouldn't hold my breath for course handicaps to be working great though.
Really hoping there isn't too much that it gets confusing
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Sammo! Hope you have been well sir
I hope EVO means that 3 click nonsense is gone I hated playing those people
So your gonna make a sexy Donald Trump too:P
noice
Wait why, you stopped uploading golf videos and now your back? Guess it's a money thing. Always loved your golf videos but you giving up sucked. Don't give up this time. You should have way more followers, you need to stick with it and not go 10months before your next upload.
Edit: as for pros who really cares if there's 100 or 1? You don't use a pro 98% of game play. It disent matter at all. Im also glad the swing is gone from 2k21 and 23. Everyone has to learn and on same page at start. It's only a good thing, don't bitch you won't be good, we all won't be good and thats good. They also need to get rid of 3 click, ain't no PGA star out there doing a 3 click swing on TV. It's not even realalistic. Also tou were always able to remove and add things with swing. Its call beginner mode and you can add things to it like lie angle
, swing path, tempo,etc.
3 or 4 click on launch?
I am gonna guess that it will still be 3 click. I will dip my toes into it but it will be mainly swing stick for me.