what is everyone talking about did they just nerf it? the last balance patch was when mira came out and all three changes there are direct dmg for headbutt and charge and health buffs did I miss something? also just saw the video not sure what he is complaining about seeing as he is soloing rexes and sarcos and allos and iggy things MUCH larger then it that should be able to kill it no problem and killing them with no problem at all gonna be honest not really seeing the issue.
@@nigelthornberry7513 RIGHT!? Bro if anything pachy is still uber meta with how strong it is rn. They gotta nerf its speed or turn radius im telling you.
The fact that the backer skin rex was out-turning your pachy while both of you were sprinting is wild. Apexes should not have sharper sprint turning than a small/medium tier… And the Rex didn’t even have balanced tail, so :/
@@TheLuppiterXO. Except balanced tail only provides 5% extra turn which is utterly pathetic and doesn’t do shit to help Pachy out at all, because they fucking gutted its turn radius lmfao
right, like how the ano got the AoE and now it totallyyyy requires skill, same with rex and eo needing a reallyyyy skilled player to kill anything. It's silly taking away the pachy's main attributes (stamina and turn radius.) if the point was to make pachy need skill, they shouldn't have buffed it then nerfed it. It was perfectly fine before all these "balance updates". A good conca would be able to kill a bad pachy, while a good pachy player would kill a conca. Which is fair, they're both in the same tier. Now a mediocre conca can kill even a good pachy player easily, and with the stamina nerf, conca, alio and maybe even cerato would easily be able to out turn and run the pachy which is silly.
I agree, literally anything smaller than a dasp could almost be head tanked by a pachy, and if 1 didn't cut it 2 did (not to mention pachys are the most kos things ever right after megs). The conc is like the most fragile thing ever, and the fact that if you didn't have the dive ability the pachy could easily kill you no matter where you went was frustrating, they were faster, did more damage, better turn radius, better stamina and Stam recovery, higher combat weight, more health, etc. Glad pachy got nerfed, it was warranted
I am still waiting for my king Beaked Pachy to return. Beaky was everything a Pachy player could ever ask for: great turning, higher CW, high damage, high stam, charge actually dealing damage, bonebreak, charge slowing opponents down(hatz was unable to fly because it couldn't reach sprinting speed to launch itself), bonebreak could get you out of grab, bite made bonebreak last longer, etc. I really pray that Beaky returns soon, it has been way too long...
@@Sr_V2 except the only 2 slot pachy can still kill is conca and meg lol. And even those 2 are not in its favour; a good meg/conca still claps pachys So yeah not really, no
@@ToxicMidget21 Holy shit, that explains why my pachy's stam was going down so quickly when running... Was it shadownerfed very recently? There's nothing about this in the patchnotes what the fuck
Got nerfed like five days after the patch without any notification or stats in the discord, but basically pachy has less stamina over charge takes away about 40% of stam bar if fully used and it now has worse turning radius and acceleration.
@@TheOneAndOnlyIS-1 yep poor thing was practically unplayable for over a year and finally when it got a buff it got immediately nerfed again. At least it still has its combat weight and a better headbutt. The stamina though 😬.
Being nerfed after being buffed is wild because of how many people complain 😅 i dont understand why people complained it was balanced with the buff you could still die by most things and its still squishy
My achillo is a pachy’s nightmare I have more stamina than a pachy just as fast. Have a higher combat weight both my claw and bite do more damage than anything a pachy can dish out. I can jump just as good a them in a fight turn is better. I’ve killed pachy’s in a 1v2 with little struggle, I don’t think I’d win but I’d like to give a 1v3 ago and see how it goes It’s just unfair for pachy’s. They’re conc level at best right now ceras and achillos are too much for them
@@KumaLynx-mj9cz agree though it’s not impossible for a pachy to win as most achillo players I’ve seen are not good or they run an apex killer build and can’t defend themselves. But if you know what your doing and have the regular claw attack and regular bite or raptor strike a pachy is easy work to deal with even in 2v1 situations
The nerf is so ridiculous. Pachy is bad only okay imo when paired with Struthi, which for me is a crutch. I don’t want to play with struthis. It seems they’re making mid tiers more and more reliant on group play. This is what happens when they don’t get input from their community and just do whatever they want. I still don’t know why they don’t make surveys beforehand, to get our feedback when they’re wanting to do major nerds/buffs to the Dino’s.
@@val2948 we’re all entitled to our opinions but for me I wouldn’t call it insanely good. Since you can’t tap charge anymore you should try to use full charge which takes 40%ish of their stamina. 5 of any Dino’s are usually pretty difficult to deal with.
My pachy dont have this much stam or this low af stamina drain qnd doesn't turn as good even with balanced tail. After buff and before nerfed again?? I dont think people will ever learn to bait attacks. I main conc and pachys are my favorite to fight. Every single alio cera or other conc are I dogwalk lol. Skilled pachys usually only thing to hit me more than once or twice
Almost killed an adult pachy with my adolescent alio because they can't outturn, it was pretty sad The only reason I lost and he survived on death scars was because I'm not good at pvp so that's another thing to consider
Nerfing the stam was crazy ngl, they completely took away one of pachies best ability
what is everyone talking about did they just nerf it? the last balance patch was when mira came out and all three changes there are direct dmg for headbutt and charge and health buffs did I miss something? also just saw the video not sure what he is complaining about seeing as he is soloing rexes and sarcos and allos and iggy things MUCH larger then it that should be able to kill it no problem and killing them with no problem at all gonna be honest not really seeing the issue.
@@nigelthornberry7513 RIGHT!? Bro if anything pachy is still uber meta with how strong it is rn. They gotta nerf its speed or turn radius im telling you.
@@creaseconquer3364 exactly, there is a reason ppl play pachy instead of pycno lol.
@@nigelthornberry7513 it got nerfed when kent tlc got out
@@Drome-su5rm pyno need a healing rate increase
Alio players: 😊
Pachy players: 💀
Basically the balance patch in a nutshell
Boo hoo pachy doesnt need to be anywhere near as strong as it is rn
Nah all official dinos always gets bullied by smaller goofy modded dinos
The fact that the backer skin rex was out-turning your pachy while both of you were sprinting is wild. Apexes should not have sharper sprint turning than a small/medium tier… And the Rex didn’t even have balanced tail, so :/
He woukd have better turning if they had balance tail on pachy. Imo, going tail attack just gives u a disadvantage
it's because he's using tail attack...it's completely useless, better turning radius should be the go-to for a playable like pachy
@@TheLuppiterXO. Except balanced tail only provides 5% extra turn which is utterly pathetic and doesn’t do shit to help Pachy out at all, because they fucking gutted its turn radius lmfao
Pachy should not have a turn radius bigger than a rex
Certified PoT balancing moment™️
Now a year of being neglected again and then maybe it'll get a small buff just for people to cry "pachycalypse is back"
Now this thing takes actual skill to play. Good work
right, like how the ano got the AoE and now it totallyyyy requires skill, same with rex and eo needing a reallyyyy skilled player to kill anything. It's silly taking away the pachy's main attributes (stamina and turn radius.)
if the point was to make pachy need skill, they shouldn't have buffed it then nerfed it. It was perfectly fine before all these "balance updates". A good conca would be able to kill a bad pachy, while a good pachy player would kill a conca. Which is fair, they're both in the same tier.
Now a mediocre conca can kill even a good pachy player easily, and with the stamina nerf, conca, alio and maybe even cerato would easily be able to out turn and run the pachy which is silly.
I agree, literally anything smaller than a dasp could almost be head tanked by a pachy, and if 1 didn't cut it 2 did (not to mention pachys are the most kos things ever right after megs). The conc is like the most fragile thing ever, and the fact that if you didn't have the dive ability the pachy could easily kill you no matter where you went was frustrating, they were faster, did more damage, better turn radius, better stamina and Stam recovery, higher combat weight, more health, etc. Glad pachy got nerfed, it was warranted
11:54
Lil bro needed to call in his squad to win against a patchy 😭😭
I hope you absolutely roasted them to bits after that.
Why would they need roasting? Pycno struggles vs everything but regardless a simple gg would suffice to get under their skin
@@Stitch2316 true.
That's some really good Playstyle you got going
Man did it even need nerfs? They didn’t seem that bad to fight against from my experience
Honestly, I wish they hadn't touched Pachy at all. I was fine with it the way it was and it was my beloved go to dino. Now...
You're probably one of them that run around on pachy trying to kill everything. GFYS
9:12 so satisfying! I love doing these things as well 😂
7:48 some feeling awoke in me that i cant describe when this iggy friendly called 😢
You still managed to do a lot! I’d say Pachi didn’t get nerfed so hard it’s unusable… just nerfed out of meta relevancy.
I'm main conc and seeing that initial fight was slightly painful
Iggy’s not equipping kick is beyond me…
I’ve fought so many lambs who didn’t have tail attack (back when lamb had a machine gun tail attack too).
6:13 this sarco wants friend
I didn’t!
I am still waiting for my king Beaked Pachy to return. Beaky was everything a Pachy player could ever ask for: great turning, higher CW, high damage, high stam, charge actually dealing damage, bonebreak, charge slowing opponents down(hatz was unable to fly because it couldn't reach sprinting speed to launch itself), bonebreak could get you out of grab, bite made bonebreak last longer, etc.
I really pray that Beaky returns soon, it has been way too long...
Yeah that’s nice and all however people only ever used it to mixpack by abusing the spammable bone break to let they’re apex boyfriend kill you
!!!!!! 3:26 wow what was that
They basically nerfed Pachy to be on par with 2 slots rather than have 1 slot mobility and 2 slot strength
It wasn't overnerfed, it was just balanced
@@Sr_V2 except the only 2 slot pachy can still kill is conca and meg lol. And even those 2 are not in its favour; a good meg/conca still claps pachys
So yeah not really, no
@@ToxicMidget21 Pachy beats Conc and Meg
And CAN beat Alio with Air Control and overall trading with charge+headbutt too
So yeah, yes really
ngl it doesnt even look like its breaking legs compared with isle and bob
Pachy is doomed to be nerfed in every Dino game
Neat they really did it they nerfed pachy what are the nerfs i cant seem to find it on discord
@@KingCrowBullet they made it have twice less running stam, charge takes twice more stam and they made the turn radius twice worse
@@ToxicMidget21 What the hell that's way too overnerfed especially the running stam and turn radius they're making pachy almost unplayable
@@ToxicMidget21 What the actual fuck?? Nah bruh that shit’s just gonna make it borderline unplayable
@@ToxicMidget21 Holy shit, that explains why my pachy's stam was going down so quickly when running... Was it shadownerfed very recently? There's nothing about this in the patchnotes what the fuck
when did he get nerfed, all I saw was those damage boosts he got
Yeah im confused myself
Got nerfed like five days after the patch without any notification or stats in the discord, but basically pachy has less stamina over charge takes away about 40% of stam bar if fully used and it now has worse turning radius and acceleration.
@@gunkjunk4340 well that sucks
@@TheOneAndOnlyIS-1 yep poor thing was practically unplayable for over a year and finally when it got a buff it got immediately nerfed again. At least it still has its combat weight and a better headbutt. The stamina though 😬.
@@gunkjunk4340the only nerfs it needed after the damage buffs were a reduced jump height and turn radius
Being nerfed after being buffed is wild because of how many people complain 😅 i dont understand why people complained it was balanced with the buff you could still die by most things and its still squishy
My achillo is a pachy’s nightmare I have more stamina than a pachy just as fast. Have a higher combat weight both my claw and bite do more damage than anything a pachy can dish out. I can jump just as good a them in a fight turn is better. I’ve killed pachy’s in a 1v2 with little struggle, I don’t think I’d win but I’d like to give a 1v3 ago and see how it goes
It’s just unfair for pachy’s. They’re conc level at best right now ceras and achillos are too much for them
i’m a achillos kryptonite on pachy
@@snaggyk3936 most achillos aren’t good and don’t run a mid tier killer build lol
as they should be. it's just nonsense a pachy be more dangerous than a heavier carnivore
@@KumaLynx-mj9cz agree though it’s not impossible for a pachy to win as most achillo players I’ve seen are not good or they run an apex killer build and can’t defend themselves.
But if you know what your doing and have the regular claw attack and regular bite or raptor strike a pachy is easy work to deal with even in 2v1 situations
@@tommygarrosh2941 I still have enough currency for another package. still wondering if I should get the achillo or cerato
The nerf is so ridiculous. Pachy is bad only okay imo when paired with Struthi, which for me is a crutch. I don’t want to play with struthis. It seems they’re making mid tiers more and more reliant on group play. This is what happens when they don’t get input from their community and just do whatever they want.
I still don’t know why they don’t make surveys beforehand, to get our feedback when they’re wanting to do major nerds/buffs to the Dino’s.
what??? pachy is still insanely good, solo or not, and a large group of like 5 of them can easily take down a rex
@@val2948 we’re all entitled to our opinions but for me I wouldn’t call it insanely good. Since you can’t tap charge anymore you should try to use full charge which takes 40%ish of their stamina. 5 of any Dino’s are usually pretty difficult to deal with.
The same rex lmaooo 3:15
My pachy dont have this much stam or this low af stamina drain qnd doesn't turn as good even with balanced tail. After buff and before nerfed again?? I dont think people will ever learn to bait attacks. I main conc and pachys are my favorite to fight. Every single alio cera or other conc are I dogwalk lol. Skilled pachys usually only thing to hit me more than once or twice
Almost killed an adult pachy with my adolescent alio because they can't outturn, it was pretty sad
The only reason I lost and he survived on death scars was because I'm not good at pvp so that's another thing to consider
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Worst Allo player I've ever seen.
Bro the backer skinned rex is just as bad as the sarco I killed as my alio. I killed the sarco IN WATER! You gotta watch it ☠️☠️☠️
Even nerfed pachy can kill concas easily idk why
Wait I thought the just got buffed? When did the nerf happen?
Why do they always have to do my favourite dino so dirty😭
Actually makes me so sad man
Feeling that
Yeah I put my Pachy back in retirement HC.
It was fun while it lasted…
Sarco could have had you if he played smart but good kill
Reminder that shotgun charging does basically no damage
@@BLACKPR0PHET
I’m aware, but it’s still instant damage and allows me to get closer for body shots :))
These cannot be real players. They were all so bad
people saying the stam is bad are delulu its fine!!
Did u pay the rex too play so bad? Or is that scripted? Kinda hard to believe that someone realy is so bad
It needs the nerfs. It should not be killing Alios that are 140% it's size. It's a herbivore not a hunter
1:19??????????? I’m sorry did the rex just shit himself