It's always fun and educational when Scott is talking. And yes, he is correct! I fulfilled one of my big DG dreams in 2024, by buying slightly more than 1% of RPM. I wish I could have afforded to buy more. But that small amount satisfies my desire to make some investment at the production level, as well as in our retail store. Feels good, man. :) Over the years I have been very lucky to have been the recipient of Scott's deep knowledge, and his generous nature. Thank you kindly, Sir Stokely!
Scott mentioned the Eclipse I still own several from that period and still throw them. Those were my first Discraft discs. I have one from the 1989 Worlds Championships. It is always great to hear Scott talk about the early years of Disc Golf.
Very fun! Forehands were difficult with early Frisbees. They were soft. Great for catching, bad for torque. Strong FHs wabbled and turned over significantly. Victor Malafronte and Ken Westerfield threw powerful distance with FH. They would release it about a foot off the ground with the edge pointed down at the ground. Amazing athletic side bend. The disc would flip 90 degrees to flat. But disc plastics stiffened in the late 70s. Ultimate went from backhand dominate to forehand dominate by 1979-80. I agree with Scott that the FH is under-used in DG. I am left handed. My experience was the early DG courses were designed by right-handed players, and either unconsciously or to accommodate beginners, the courses were RH biased. I as a lefty had to use my forehand, 90% had little need for it. IMO, even today, most courses run clockwise when there's water or a gulch down the middle. However, the bias has lessened. Today, only the most difficult, tour-worthy courses force tough angles for righty BHs.
I used a Ching JuJu to putt with for a year or so around 2004, was very happy with it once I got my ideal finger placement down. And what a coincidence, just started reading 'growing up disc golf' for the third time yesterday, highly recommend it .
I love this series. I haven’t just tossed around a a frisbee since I was a kid. I think it would be an awesome way to stay connected to my ladies(wife and daughter) what’s a good toss around disc that’s not to giant and flys good ? We have some glitches and an old Duncan ultimate but something in between is what I’m looking for. Any suggestions?
I agree that a forehand is an important tool to navigate many courses, but three out of the last four MPO World Championships were won by backhand players. Conrad even said/joked that it’s a matter of principle to never throw a forehand from the tee.
you honestly don’t see that Stokely was talking about a competitive advantage for forehand AND backhand players, which to some extent is true, yet Isaac and James are 99% backhand throwers and have won three out of the last four Worlds…? You don’t see that as counter to Stokely’s argument?
Yeah but to be fair 2 of those were Isaacs who struggled on a lot of courses. The other was James who aside from USDGC that year isn’t winning anything. If you count all elite series then there’s no legitimate argument to be made.
@ for sure. A balanced forehand/backhand attack is clearly an advantage. I don’t disagree with Stokely or anything like that, but successful backhand-only players are out there. Conrad did win other tournaments before Worlds. Nate Doss did pretty well. Isaac has won more than Worlds, but I do agree. He seems to excel in more specific locations, so I’ll be curious to see what this year brings. Backhand-only players can win big tournaments and have successful careers. We’ve seen it, and a few of them are doing it. But just a few.
@@Munchylego yeah they can win but at the end of day the advice was still correct. There’s only 1 player currently having any success with no forehand.
I think I still have an eclipse and they were crazy sharp at the time but the vortex was my go to disc for everything except putting. And like Scott said nobody thought you needed a forehand back then. You needed to work on your turnover shot. This is coming from a lefty that probably should’ve been working on the forehand.
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Scott is an absolute legend in disc golf. I am honored to be able to call him a friend. Such a great person and a huge part of disc golf's success!
Scott's passion for the game is so obvious. People like him keep this sport fun, as it was meant to be.
This show has been such a breath of fresh air and honestly Brian is the best host for it!!
It's always fun and educational when Scott is talking. And yes, he is correct! I fulfilled one of my big DG dreams in 2024, by buying slightly more than 1% of RPM. I wish I could have afforded to buy more. But that small amount satisfies my desire to make some investment at the production level, as well as in our retail store. Feels good, man. :)
Over the years I have been very lucky to have been the recipient of Scott's deep knowledge, and his generous nature. Thank you kindly, Sir Stokely!
Love this show!
Scott mentioned the Eclipse I still own several from that period and still throw them. Those were my first Discraft discs. I have one from the 1989 Worlds Championships. It is always great to hear Scott talk about the early years of Disc Golf.
Same, loved the Eclipse.
Very fun! Forehands were difficult with early Frisbees. They were soft. Great for catching, bad for torque. Strong FHs wabbled and turned over significantly.
Victor Malafronte and Ken Westerfield threw powerful distance with FH. They would release it about a foot off the ground with the edge pointed down at the ground. Amazing athletic side bend. The disc would flip 90 degrees to flat.
But disc plastics stiffened in the late 70s. Ultimate went from backhand dominate to forehand dominate by 1979-80.
I agree with Scott that the FH is under-used in DG. I am left handed. My experience was the early DG courses were designed by right-handed players, and either unconsciously or to accommodate beginners, the courses were RH biased.
I as a lefty had to use my forehand, 90% had little need for it. IMO, even today, most courses run clockwise when there's water or a gulch down the middle. However, the bias has lessened.
Today, only the most difficult, tour-worthy courses force tough angles for righty BHs.
I used a Ching JuJu to putt with for a year or so around 2004, was very happy with it once I got my ideal finger placement down. And what a coincidence, just started reading 'growing up disc golf' for the third time yesterday, highly recommend it .
Fantastic interview Brian. I could listen to you guys talk for hours. Scott Stokely is a gem.
Scott always dropping fun history tidbits, and practical knowledge/perspective.
This series was a lovely idea
Another fantastic episode!
These are always great!
Awesome! Go Scott!
underrated content.
I love this series. I haven’t just tossed around a a frisbee since I was a kid. I think it would be an awesome way to stay connected to my ladies(wife and daughter) what’s a good toss around disc that’s not to giant and flys good ? We have some glitches and an old Duncan ultimate but something in between is what I’m looking for. Any suggestions?
Glitches are fun to toss around. I honestly think you can’t beat an Ultrastar for catch though. Although that would require you buying one.
So good. Stokely rules
Great stuff
This whole series should be mandatory for the education of disc golfers everywhere
Scott rocks
Stoke would FYB
I agree that a forehand is an important tool to navigate many courses, but three out of the last four MPO World Championships were won by backhand players. Conrad even said/joked that it’s a matter of principle to never throw a forehand from the tee.
@ certainly…but you seem to miss the point.
you honestly don’t see that Stokely was talking about a competitive advantage for forehand AND backhand players, which to some extent is true, yet Isaac and James are 99% backhand throwers and have won three out of the last four Worlds…? You don’t see that as counter to Stokely’s argument?
Yeah but to be fair 2 of those were Isaacs who struggled on a lot of courses. The other was James who aside from USDGC that year isn’t winning anything. If you count all elite series then there’s no legitimate argument to be made.
@ for sure. A balanced forehand/backhand attack is clearly an advantage. I don’t disagree with Stokely or anything like that, but successful backhand-only players are out there. Conrad did win other tournaments before Worlds. Nate Doss did pretty well. Isaac has won more than Worlds, but I do agree. He seems to excel in more specific locations, so I’ll be curious to see what this year brings. Backhand-only players can win big tournaments and have successful careers. We’ve seen it, and a few of them are doing it. But just a few.
@@Munchylego yeah they can win but at the end of day the advice was still correct. There’s only 1 player currently having any success with no forehand.
My forehand confidence would be nothing without this guy. If you want to do it right and not destroy your elbow, watch his stuff
I’ve got some old Ching rocs and aviars they were so money!!
Who makes the wren? The plastic feels cool!
Jomez could you please start rendering videos in 1440p so they get better codec and bitrate for youtube.
The difference is huge.
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I think I still have an eclipse and they were crazy sharp at the time but the vortex was my go to disc for everything except putting. And like Scott said nobody thought you needed a forehand back then. You needed to work on your turnover shot. This is coming from a lefty that probably should’ve been working on the forehand.
I didn't realize Scott was having some sort of hand issue?
Yet...Robinson(x2) and Conrad have both won world championships with virtually no forehand, so its obviously not "essential."
@@SnappingplasticEagle won the European Open with zero forehands. ZERO
@@Snappingplastic yes. Eagle won without a single forehand. Deal with it.
Not first at all disc entrepreneurial things……definitely been around but …..that’s not a correct statement….
You’re both solid dudes ……
Scott's cool. 🥏🤙