1 Corsair vs 8 mig-15 Jets
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- The Incredible story of when a WW2 F4U corsair took down a Mig-15 fighter jet, 1 Corsair vs 8 mig-15 Jets. Would he make it out alive?
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Background history on the f4u corsair
Development of the F4U Corsair began in early 1938, headed-up by Vought Aircraft’s Chief Engineer, Rex Biesel. By May 1940, Vought had produced a prototype; the new fighter’s inverted gull wings gave the aircraft an unmistakably recognizable face when viewed head-on, and were designed to provide ground clearance for the massive 13-foot propeller. On the Corsair’s maiden flight, she broke the speed record for a single-seat fighter aircraft by exceeding 400 miles per hour in level flight. The Navy was sold on the speedy fighter and ordered Vought to begin production. Nearly 13,000 examples would be produced by the end of the F4U’s production run in 1952.
The F4U Corsair entered combat in 1943, and gave Allied naval aviators a winning edge against their opponents. Renowned for its speed, ruggedness, and firepower, the Corsair excelled as both a fighter and an attack aircraft in support of ground forces. The F4U-4, with its more powerful engine, was the last Corsair variant to see service during World War II.
F4U-F CORSAIR
Due to the urgent need for fighter squadrons in the Solomon Islands area in the summer of 1943, Marine Fighting Squadron 214 (VMF-214) was unorthodoxly cobbled together in theater, utilizing replacement pilots intended for other squadrons. Under the command of Maj. Gregory “Pappy” Boyington, the self-proclaimed “Black Sheep” of VMF-214 shot down 97 Japanese aircraft and damaged another 103 during the squadron’s two six-week tours of duty, making the Black Sheep one of the highest scoring flying outfits in the South Pacific at that time.
The Corsairs flown by VMF-214 were seldom flown by the same pilot every day. In fact, Pappy would always fly the plane in the poorest condition on every mission, just so a pilot under his command wouldn’t have to do so. This aircraft is painted in the markings of one of the aircraft known to have been flown by the squadron.
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Background History on the MIG-15
MiG-15, also called (NATO designation) Fagot, single-seat, single-engine Soviet jet fighter, built by the Mikoyan-Gurevich design bureau and first flown in 1947. It was used extensively in combat during the Korean War (1950-53).
The MiG-15 was the first “all-new” Soviet jet aircraft, one whose design did not simply add a jet engine onto an older piston-engine airframe. Employing swept-back wings, a tail fin, and horizontal stabilizers to reduce drag as the plane approached the speed of sound, it clearly exploited aerodynamic principles learned from German engineering at the close of World War II. It was powered by a centrifugal-flow engine that had been licensed from the British company Rolls-Royce and then upgraded by the Soviet manufacturer Klimov. Deliveries to the military began in 1948. Designed as a bomber interceptor, the MiG-15 carried a formidable armament of two 23-mm guns and one 37-mm gun firing exploding shells.
In November 1950 the appearance over North Korea of MiG-15s, bearing Chinese markings though flown by Soviet pilots, marked a major turning point in the Korean War and indeed in all of aerial warfare. Shocked by the speed, climbing ability, and high operating ceiling of the Soviet fighter, the United States hurried delivery to Korea of the new F-86 Sabre, which managed to reestablish U.S. air supremacy in part because of a superior pilot-training system instituted by the U.S. Air Force. Nevertheless, the MiG-15 virtually ended daylight bombing runs by huge, slow, World War II-era B-29 Superfortresses, and Soviet pilots continued to engage in combat with U.S. and allied planes even as they trained Chinese and North Koreans to fly in the new jet age.
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What a guy .Balls of steel...Even had the humanity to kill the flames of the downed enemy pilot....Just shows that you can have all the latest fancy kit but human skill with the old stuff can get the job done .
He was definitely multi-tasking!
@@uio890138 Ha ha .Brilliant.
It's a phenomenal engagement, this is like the equivalent of an A-10 taking on 8 Mig-29
Yep, he probably saved that RUSSIAN pilot's life. We're not supposed to know that though.
@@Tron-Jockey The American knew that the Russian pilot didn't personally sign the Tripartite Pact, which allied the Soviet Russians and the imperial Japanese with the Nazis. Everybody in America knows how Russia and United States helped beat the Nazis in World War II, only after Hitler doublecrossed Stalin... We also know how Stalin's Russia and Hitler TOGETHER pushed Ukraine into oppression.
Not only did the F4U basically share the same power plant as the P-47, it nearly shared the same ruggedness. The F4U was a brute and when flown by an experienced pilot, it was feared by any opponent.
Great video.
Whistling death!!!!
and that's the small engine. The F2G corsair had the R4350 wasp major "corncob"
@@telesniper2 Absolutely. The latter produced nearly 50% more hp, but although it barely entered service before the end of the war, I don't believe the F2G saw any action. The same goes for the F8F Bearcat.
The main difference between the R-2800 in the two planes was the supercharging system.
@@mpetersen6 yes, the P-47s flew with a single stage centrifugal supercharger on top of a big honking turbocharger. The Navy preferred its superchargers tho, so most naval aircraft were fitted with 2 superchargers.
My grandfather flew F4Us in the Korean War, always had a soft spot in my heart. My favorite aircraft of all time! Great video 🤙🏻
Hi Michael, It truly is a beautiful aircraft and we are sure your Grandfather loved flying it as well! Thanks for your support on the channel.
I had the honor of working on an FG-1D back in the day of the Confederate Air Force. She was a beautiful bird to watch fly
My great grandfather LT Walter.H.Martin.JR flew a P-51D in late WW2 in the European theatre
My great grandfather flew a 109 for the Finnish Airforce before he went to fly for the USAF in 1946.
Same here my grandpa Rick flew one in Korea. My favorite aircraft of all time, we used to watch this show all the time when I was a kid, I think it was called wings of steel??
The F4U was out gunned, but he used the strengths of the Corsair to survive and he did downing one and damaging another. My hats off to him.
What a warrior right ?
According to Wikipedia
Mig 15
2 × 23 mm Nudelman-Rikhter NR-23 autocannon in the lower left fuselage (80 rounds per gun, 160 rounds total)
1 × 37 mm Nudelman N-37 autocannon in the lower right fuselage (40 rounds total)
F4U
4 × 0.79 in (20 mm) AN/M3 cannon, 231 rounds per gun
According to my arithmetic the F4U had more ammunition per gun than each Mig-15 had in total, I think the correct word is outnumbered. Obviously once his guns were hit it was a dfferent story.
And skill.
Marines have never had the best equipment, but Marines have always been masters of doing the most with the least. This Devildog is a prime example of just that. Semper Fi!
Semper Fi.
@@TexanUSMC8089 Semper Fi!
Well during World War II the F4U Corsair was one of the best fighter planes of the war. And it was used specifically in the Korean War for a reason. So I wouldn't go so far to say the Marines do a lot more with less equipment. Outdated would be a more accurate description when it comes to the F4U Corsair combating with a MIG.
@@TexanUSMC8089 Semper Fi
@@devildog3246 Semper Fi
Jesse became a pilot instructor at Pensacola Naval Base. He and his family were my next door neighbors during my childhood. A fine gentleman as well as pilot! I had a crush on his oldest daughter back then!
At age 81, I still love flying the F4-U! Amazing men of great honor and courage! Truly my heroes! My Dad was in France…’44-45. Semper Fi!!! 😎❤️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
My Grandfather was the original Commanding Officer that took VMF 312 “Checkerboard” Squadron to Korea in late 1950. He was shot down and killed in April of 1951 on a recon mission. Thanks for the article.
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This is the first time I ever knew this story. I was moved by this Marine's actions. Semper Fi.
Oooh Rah (sorry about the spelling) the Coursair was used a LOT in Korea before the Skyraider took to the air
Semper Hi Fi!
I've heard bits and pieces of this great story many times but never in this detail. The Corsair is such a powerful warbird and fought in so many battles in so many countries for many decades. Thanks for sharing
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The Corsair was, however, designed to land with half a wing and stabilizer. MiGs were the bonus.
My father was a naval aviation machinist during WWII. He followed the F4U Corsair from start to finish. His first deployment was NAS Squantum in Boston, where the initial Corsairs manufactured at nearby Vaught plant in Stratford, CT. He later moved to Key West NAS as the Corsairs completed aircraft carrier trials in the Caribbean. Finally he moved to Kaneohe Bay NAS (now MCAS) for the rest of the war. He loved the plane as he best ever produced, although the P-51 may have been the best plane of the war.
A Corsair in MiG Alley, against 8 MiGs….
Yeah, those are even odds!
This isn’t about technology, about who has the better plane. This was about tenacity and courage…
For a fighter pilot who was in an obsolete war plane he not only survived the mission but lived to a ripe old age….
Great video on an amazing story
They actually used the Corsair in Vietnam too. Very good plane
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The original Corsair? There was another plane that was called the Corsair II, it looked like a smaller version of the Crusader…..
@@robertdragoff6909 true but the original Corsair did serve in Vietnam. So did the P51D. I think people are too quick in the Air Force and Army and Navy to say a aircraft is either obsolete or needing to be retired. Create a new version with the same original design and you have a new killing machine!
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Actually I checked and found out the French military used the Corsair after WWII all over their colonies and eventually in Vietnam before the US got involved
Recall that the A1-H Skyraider flew the Sandy mission successfully in Vietnam, so piston engined a/c weren't all obsolete by then.
My Dad flew the F4-U for the Marines in WW2. He always said the Corsair had no equal.
My Dad flew this beast, too for USMC! He called it the "Bent Wing Bird!"
@@badian37 Thanks for the comment Brian, we are sure that your dad loved flying this beautiful aircraft! Thanks for his service and your support on our channel :)
The Aviation Museum I worked at for 5 years (Kalamazoo Airzoo) has a Goodyear FG-1D Corsair and a MiG-15 in it's collection, though they are not located near each other. The Corsair is displayed next to a later variant the Wilcat, an FM-2 Wildcat, an F6F Hellcat and an SBD Dauntless which was recovered from the bottom of Lake Michigan and restored and now looks good as new. The MiG-15 is displayed alongside it's archrival, a F-86, as well as other '50s and '60s Cold War aircraft the Airzoo has like a MiG_21, an F-4, as well as less known aircraft from that era like an F-11 Tiger, done up gorgeously in it's Blue Angel paint scheme.
The Air Zoo really is a treat and any aviation enthusiast would have a great time going through the collection. It includes a two-seat SR-71 in it's NASA markings, the only XP-55 Ascender in existence, and also a recently acquired F-117 which you can see undergoing restoration in the Air Zoo's restoration center. If you're ever in West Michigan it's definitely worth checking out!
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Was there like 30 years Ago. Had Flts then of Old birds but missed them !! I'm old HaHa..
My grandfather took us there as kids.
Just added this to the must see/do with the Grand kids. I went to WMU and never knew it was there.
Good deal! Been there plenty ( Dayton & Pensacola as well, etc.) Michigan native. A great place, well run........worth it 👍
I saw hundreds of Cosairs 1943-45 out the factory door & flying out over the Sound. My father was the Chief Electrical Inspector for Chance Vought.
I, too, flew the F-4 when assigned to VMFA-312, but the F-4J Phantom II, not the F4U Corsair of VMF-312. This is the first I've heard of this engagement. Improvise, adapt and overcome is a Marine Corps tradition long before some Country and Western song.
Checkerboards, the longest continuous serving fighter squadron in the Corps.
Fight's ON!
Semper Fi
Semper Fi.
I was in VMFA 323 next door in Beaufort with the F-4 Bs in '66. Semper Fi!
@@rudyyarbrough5122 Both F-4s are beautiful airframes. Both flown by awesome pilots
He should have been awarded the Medal of Honor
Yeah, funny that.😮You would think it would be automatic decision.
Him putting out flames burning the MiG pilot reminds me of a time where a US pilot was descending after bailing when he spotted a Japanese zero coming towards him. He expected to die, only to see the zero slowly circle him, pilot saluting before flying off.
For some reason, it’s the stories about the mutual respect that you see shown between “enemies” that I find the most interesting.
Stories like that are always my favorite. Like the bf109 who escorted a damage B17 and let him go. Then to top it off they met years later after the war and became great friends up until their death decades later. That’s gotta be one of my favorites
well, really, how many people would kill another person if they didn't have to? Once the plane is gone, that is the major goal. Goal achieved, no need to kill the other guy unless you saw him doing something effed up like strafing an elementary school etc. I think most people would behave similarly.
@@coppulor6500 some do, some don't. It's an unofficial rule you don't shoot at personnel in chutes. If you do, you volunteer for the same treatment.
My grandfather was in the Eastern Front in WW2, serving as mounted messanger. He carried no weapon to save weight and because weapons were scarce at the time anyway. The road was OK where vehicles had gone, but on both sides the snow was up to his saddle. The frontlines were confused, to say the least, so an enemy cavalryman was going the same way on the same road and neither could leave it. But he had a much bigger and faster horse, and more than that, a gun.
It turned into a race for life, but the trooper just rode past him, saluted, and kept on going.
That true gentleman, a knight really, likely served in an Ukrainian unit, the elite 44th Rifle Division from Kiev.
Unlike my grandfather, he probably didnt survive, since in that very battle the 44th Kievskaya was completely destroyed. May his descendants live long and win the glory and peace they deserve.
Slava Ukraini!
@@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 thanks for sharing that story. It may not have gotten the attention that some other similar stories have gotten but it’s a fine example of that respect, regardless.
Slava Ukraini, putin khuylo💪🏼✊🏼👊🏽👍🏼
2:50 I belive you're off on the HP rating. The super corsair (F2G) from Goodyear was up to 3,000hp (P&W R-4360 engine) but the F4U-4B used the engine of the F4U-4 which was 2,450hp. The only change from the 4 to 4B was the change in guns. Also, as far as I've seen all models of Corsair rated 2000 and above had 4 bladed propellers.
The Corsair is my favorite plane and even had the honor of speaking with it's #1 pilot, Greg Boyington. It's also one of the reasons I joined the Marines and served in the air wing of Mals-12 and Mals-14.
Well done video! Thanks! My dad was a Marine pilot that flew the F4U-5N for VMF 513(N) in Korea in 1950 and flew missions at the Chosin Reservoir to cover the Marines withdrawal there. Won a DFC for a night interdiction and convoy/train destroyed. Great men all!
Corsairs are the Corvettes of the sky.
Should have never been retired
@@outperformancelife3145 nah f14 is better
@@turiipipip1920 F14 cannot do the turns that a gun fighter like the F4U Corsair or the P47 Thunderbolt or Fairchild A10 Thunderbolt. Yes they have faster and stealthy fighters but in all truth, they made their best fighters when they were scared to death of Germany taking over the world plus that whole war was the Cabals and Deep States fault both here and abroad.
If I ever win the lottery, I'm going to buy a Corsair, and learn to fly her.
@@jackstecker5796 oh yeah
He used the Mig’s speed against it. That is the mark of a master of tactics! Aside from that two fighter pilots have more in common than differences, so helping the Mig pilot out is clearly an honorable move.
the R2800 engine was a real powerhouse. theres reports of pilots landing and reporting a slight decrease in power, only for mechanics to later find entire cylinders ripped in half from enemy cannon fire.
well they plob kept working because each cylinder have their own walls so if one has a giant whole in it you plob wouldn't lose too much oil pressure
My Dad worked on the Cougar ( very close looking) to the Mig 15. Also the Panther. His squadron was used in The Bridge's of Toko Ri, my Dad pointed out to me the Origional "#'s on the wings & fuselage as they painted over them ( for the movie).
My dad was ordnance with VMA 312... I'm sure he loaded that plane. He told us kids about it. Years latter I had the honor of joining VMFA312 at MCAS Beaufort SC. Semper Fi
my great grandpa flew the F4u Corsair, I have no clue where or what variant or even what squadron, but he told me himself that the Corsair was one of the best planes of ww2
Just studied both these Air Combat Fighter Planes. Had no idea our Men had to face Russian MIGs, over Korea! There are Marine Naval documentaries of training, takeoff, cockpit control procedures and landing the behemoth Corsairs upon Carrier Decks! I'm stunned by this pilots heroic mission!
Great story of bravery and gallantry saving the MIG pilot and his wing man. Guys like these I believe is why the Allied‘s won the war. Along with all the united civilians back home that pulled together working long hard hours to support our fighting forces. My mom worked I a munitions factory making .50 cal bullets. My dad was a tail gunner in a B 25 Mitchell in the South Pacific. He once told me the story of returning from a strafing run. The pilots dropped down on the deck about 20’ off the water to preserve fuel and keep the Zeros from getting under there planes. He said he could see the rounds from the Zeros splashing in the water behind his plane. But said the Zeros were promptly run off by some Corsairs that had come to the rescue. He told me it was a welcome sight to see those bent wing birds. He said the Zeros never wanted anything to do with a Corsair! They have both passed. But not the legacy of all of those good men and women. God bless them and God Bless America!
Making 550 mph in a Corsair...that's pretty fast, that's about the same speed as an ME-262. To do what he did takes total courage. The Corsair may have been outdated by the early 50's, but it wasn't any less deadly, certainly when in the hands of a very competent pilot.
The F4U is my all time favorite plane. Such beauty and power.
Just an FYI... Contract with the U.S. Navy Bureau of Aeronautics and development of the F4U began in 1938. First flight was on 29-May-1940. It was officially retired from service in the United States in 1953 and in Honduras it was officially retired in 1979.
Actually, the last Corsair in Marine service was retired in the late 50's, because it was wearing the newly introduced Gull Gray over Insignia White color scheme.
The pilots in the migs were more than likely soviet and the fact that he helped the pilot that he shot down who was on fire, show's the true spirit of the American Soldier's and the Honor code in their own feelings he went above and beyond.
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US-pilotes in Europe were shooting even at children, women, farmers, cows and goats. A 14 year old boy from our neighborhood was killed when he went back from school by a escort fighter pilot. The boy was shot into pieces. Big heroes Your pilots! Congratulations! Greetings from Linz-Austria 🇦🇹Europe! 🐺
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You have proof then file a report, the US military takes statement's like that seriously, or are you just making it up ?
@@goingfubar7182 they won’t, how are they gonna find a random fighter pilot that is most likely not even alive anymore?
@@wolfganggugelweith8760 - Maybe they were angry after learning about the warm welcome the US prisoners received from the SS at Malmedy or after witnessing those "humanitarian" actions of your Einsatzgruppen. Perspective matters Fritz. US pilots were fast learners. Greetings from the flight deck of the USS Nimitz........
Your nation joined the Germans and got what it deserved! If it werent for brave American soldiers, we wouldnt live free today so bow down and be thankful !
The corsair is a dodge demon that can take off from a carrier
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Wow, definitely one of the best videos I have ever watched! The historic footage is amazing! The Corsair is so beautiful in flight. What a true patriot this pilot was! Here's a big shout out to all our military people, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE! ❤️
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This footage is fantastic, keep up the great work!
In WW II, some ME-262's were shot down by P-51's. So this great accomplishment was not a first. But still one helluva an achievement
Actually 141 ME 262's were shot down by P51's in WW2! Source: "ME 262 Vs P51 Mustang" 2019 publish date, author Robert Forsyth. And the surprise is that most(70%+) Me 262's were killed at high altitude in high speed combat during attacks on bomber formations, dispelling the prevailing myth that P51's could only get Me 262's during take off or landing!
ME-262 didn't come close to the performance of a Mig-15 though. Huge difference. He didn't say this was the first prop plane to shoot down a jet either, he said it was the first to shoot down a mig-15.
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It was my understanding that Chuck Yeager was one of the first P51 pilots to take out as ME262.
@@TexanUSMC8089 a p47 flown by Taiwan may have been the first
Thanks for this amazing account. The F4U Corsair is my favourite military aircraft, followed very closely by the A10 Thunderbolt.
Correct. My exact favorites as well 👍
Never underestimate a Marine and an F4U Corsair, it's a fatal mistake to do!!
What a wonderful story of a true warfighter, a professional and one of the best examples of courage. God bless his spirit. Thanks for sharing another great story...
The reason he was still able to fly was because he was flying at such high speed that the loss of half his wing wouldn't destabilize his plane which would most likely end in a flat spin
Lift on wings also get affected by your speed, i guess the plane still got enough lift to fly even with half wing with the speed hes going
YOU HAVE A HOLE IN YOURE RIGHT WING!
@@abielgabriel7095 well he was moving 550kmh he was speeding in a plane
@@hunterbear2421 550 Miles Per Hour.
If you want kilometers per hour, it would have been 885 km/h.
@@trunkmonkey9417 well,my bad
This just proves that new doesn’t always mean better, and that a good enough pilot in an outdated aircraft can still win against less experienced pilots in newer and more advanced jets
“It’s not the plane, it’s the pilot.”
It was both…20mm are hard hitting…mustangs hit several Migs….and hard…! All made it home damaged…opportunity and preparation…
Well if you throw a chimp in a F-22, anyone can beat the F-22.
@@jeandelenfant try this with enough chimps and you'll be proven wrong :)
hah Say that to Modern Jets vs. Old Primitve Turbo Prop planes
What a Hero ! I thank him for his service and his bravery .
A few decades from now, teachers are going to ask their students what did their parents or grand parents did in their early lives. Students would proudly answer that their parents or grandparents were tiktokers and have many followers.
We need more movies of feats like these. This resonates pretty hard with Top Gun Maverick, yet, it's a story Hollywood could only hope to dream of
I could totally be wrong, but i think the movie devotion is supposed to be about the Korean War conflict and may bring this battle up in it! I just saw the trailer a few days ago and its an aviation movie with guys in the corsair! I’m excited to check it out when its released
I remember my father telling us about the time they watched an ME-109 trying to down an artillery observation Piper Cub in Italy. The pilot in the Cub kept using the terrain so the pilot in the 109 couldn't get a clean shot at him.
While speed is almost always king in a dogfight, good alpha at low speeds is certainly nothing you underestimate when fighting defensively.
@@tetsatou2815 Remember the A-1s in Nam took down 2 Migs a week before the fancy jets did and the brass made sure that story didn’t get out.
Also in Korea, the old Russian biplanes raised hell at night because they were too slow for our night fighters to be get a good shot off.
Conversely, there is good footage of an F-16, I believe South American, flying at near stall speed to engage a turning rebel OV-1(?) Mohawk that was being used to bomb civilians. His airspeed was so low, he looked like he’d fall out of the sky but the pilot fired an expert 2-3 second burst and lit up the twin prop plane like Xmas.
@@damndirtyrandy7721 it was a bronco not a Mohawk
@@damndirtyrandy7721 Yep, I remember seeing that, the F-16 is a fantastic bird, but at low speeds she suffers compared to something like the Hornet, but if you use it right, the thing's ruler of the sky. Well, until the F-22s and F-35 show up and say no fun allowed from 50 miles away with AMRAAMs you never even knew were coming. Only a sucker fights fair.
@@damndirtyrandy7721 yeah it was a bronco. F-16's are an incredible plane.
Thanks. Reminded me of my Dad, another DFC medalist, who flew in the pacific in WWII, Korea, Taiwan/Formosa, Europe, and lastly, VeitNam. RIP 2005.
I apreciate your research and voive overs. The computer generated narration on many videos in annoyingly bad at pronouncing many key words, but I understand your accent quite well.
Well done. Alot of sentiment for that pilot as a human being. All those medals well deserved.
Always thought the F4U Corsair and Ju 87 Stuka were the sexiest planes. Maybe because of the bent gull wings. Built all those detailed models as a kid and so glad we were all into that history growing up. Dad was decorated combat Green Beret in Vietnam so we had the war history books to study from.
Nice video and informative. I believe Jesse Folmar flew an F4U-4B on that mission which was a 4 blade version Corsair. I think all the later versions were 4 blade.
Yes. Everything after the F4U-1D wore a 4 blade prop. All -4&-5 models, the export -7 model, plus the dedicated ground attack version called the AU-1, which sacrificed the two stage turbo supercharger (for high altitude work) and gained 2 more wing hard points (making 10) and more armor to protect from ground fire, had a 4 blade prop.
I know that in WWII, the Japanese pilots hated the Corsair and Hellcat. They were powerful and maneuverable, but heavy built.
WOW! I am English and these videos always get to me I can’t imagine what happens to your hearts when you see fellow airmen going down. Amazing, thank you.
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I as a random American have heard more than one story of British going above and beyond. And we still have not topped the British slamming a ship into something for lack of a better way to destroy it
@@midwestreview6382 well yes we have had our moments but have been at it for so bloody long! But thanks for noticing!
Bob
A pair of A-1 Skyraiders shot down a Mig-17, over Vietnam , who was trying to fuck with them.
The Corsair was one of the fastest propeller fighter planes of WW2,, in the hands of an experienced pilot it was a lethal killing machine...
And THAT pilot was BEYOND AMAZING...
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Kind a look same as Japanese Ace Saburo Sakai, Sakai was also attack by 15 Hellcats over Iwo Jima andhe was in A6M Zero.. Over 20 Minutes of fight Saburo didnt even hit by a single bullet and 15 hellcats fail to shot down 1 Zero after that Saburo Escape and come back alive.
Lol his plane was critically damaged so that’s a win for them but you failed to mention how they sent 30 planes to attack 1 ship and still failed and the ship shot down 60 percent of them taking minimal damage while the us sent 400 planes to take out their aircraft Carrie’s and only lost 4-6 planes it seems the japa were are awful shots
@@cristobalalvarez5491 i was talking about Saburo Sakai..
Well done!
The F4U is my favorite US piston engine fighter.
Wow, and I thought that one instance of a pair of A-1H Spads/AD-4 Skyraiders shooting down a Mig-15 during 'Nam was impressive
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Don't forget the Luftwaffe ace that fought for Nazi victory! Only because such Nazi henchmen fought could the various genocides be committed by the Nazi nation!
All F4U-4 aircraft had 4 bladed propellers, not 3 as incorrectly stated.
@@johnbuchman4854 Yes, they had a longer one!
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5 years seat time. He knew every nut, bolt and rivet. Make it do things its designers never imagined. Obsolete or not, the F4u is very hard to destroy. Great story.
Thanks for the comment and support on the channel, a late corsair even by todays standards holds up in terms of speed and agility compared to modern propeller driven aircraft. Deadly in the right hands even against jets and a timeless design
The Corsair was called Whistling Death in the Pacific Theater because of the massively oversized propeller, which gave it great thrust and climbing speed, as it gave off a whistling sound as it flew close support missions.
@@johnklatt3522 ah ok I thought it was because the giant propeller rammed air into the intakes
Pilots well trained and experienced. Can and do handle the things others think is impossible. I pray Gods blessings on them all.
Always love this plane for its design and how it handled through WWII
It is an honorable thing you do, keeping alive the brave acts of the greatest generation. God bless.
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The F4U will always have a place in my heart it's what I think of when I think of war in the pacific
What is important here is that both pilots were United States Marines. The training builds a mindset that knows no fear. Even up against overwhelming numbers with modern technology they did what needed to be done.
During the Vietnam War, 2 Sky Raiders shot down a Mig.
The purple heart isn't all that prestigious. It's basically the, "I forgot to duck," medal.
The DFC, however, is prestigious. And the Bronze Star is nothing to sneeze at, either.
My uncle received a Purple Heart posthumously for being KIA in the Italian campaign near Mt. Pantano. He had already won a Silver Star in North Africa. So, my feelings about it differ. He's buried in the American Military Cemetery in Nettuno, IT near Anzio.
Depends on what you get it for
That wasn't a Bronze Star, it was a Silver Star.
You're an excellent storyteller. I appreciate how you captured the
moment as told the story.
Thank you, New Sub.
Thank you. This is gold.
You're very welcome! thanks for watching
I think it was designed for it more than you may think. Thats a heavy hitter aircraft.
He should have gotten the Medal of Honor !!!
Semper Fi
Unfortunately quite a few Corsairs fell to MiG-15 cannon fire, especially on the East Coast circa 1952-1953. So, yes, both of these Corsair pilots pulled off an amazing feat, but don't think for a minute that it was easy or routine. The Corsair was clearly obsolete by 1952. Losses in the last two years of the war were quite high, especially in comparison to jet fighter-bombers. Most F4U B s were shot down by Soviet Type 1939 37mm antiaircraft guns but MiGs got their share. By 1952 few Corsairs flew missions in MiG Alley. What makes this dogfight interesting to me is that it commenced near Pyongyang which was situated south of MiG Alley where MiG 15s were rarely encountered. F 51s had similar losses. For the most part F 51s by 1952 stayed out of MiG Alley. At least most of the F 51 units transitioned to F 86F aircraft circa October 1952, the primary exception being the ROKAF F 51 group. Corsair pilots flew this aircraft to the Armistice, but Flak and fighters reaped a terrible tool. If you want to dig deeper into Corsair losses, read The Naval Air War Over Korea. There is a chart in the book that states Corsair losses by year. As for the F 51, I recommend reading Truck Busters From Dogpatch, a day-by-day account of the 18th Fighter Bomber Wing's air war over Korea. WRT US fighter aircraft types and units, keep in mind that the Pentagon's priorities throughout the KW were 1) Continental Air Defense and 2) NATO. Even though Korea was where the hot war was being fought, 5th Air Force had to make do with often obsolete aircraft. For example by 1952 over half of the F 84 Es sent to Korea had been lost in combat or for operational reasons. Rather than receive the new F 84 G to replace these losses, 5th Air Force was forced to accept the 80 mph slower F 84 D, an aircraft inferior to even the F 84 E. Eventually, after NATO and Continental Air Defense requirements were met, F 84 Gs began to arrive in the Korean theater.
Snore
That was a Medal of Honor performance if I ever saw one. Saved the life of his wingman. Took down a jet with an F4U Corsair. Showed compassion for a fellow human (awright an enemy pilot) by putting the fire out with his prop wash. Has so much hair on his balls he could walk around naked and not get nailed for indecent exposure.
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@@FlakAlley ---> Yes, it is a Medal Of Honor (CMH) performance yet it does not meet the criteria for earning the CMH.
War thunder players be like:
“I have trained for this moment my entire life”.
Corsair may be old, but that old bird still has claws.
Who are these guys right? F86 sabres would reign on the migs parade soon after. Getting light immediately made a huge difference. He was way outranked in equipment yet stayed calm and used every ounce of experience he could muster.. I’ll bet he made a few new maneuvers with all that adrenaline.. what a true warrior spirit.
8 August 1952 british Peter "Hoagy" Carmichael shooting down a MiG-15 with hos Hawker Sea Fury. The MiG-15 was one eight who attack a group of Fairey Fireflies. It's very impressive to shoot down a MiG-15 with a propellar fighter whether it is Sea Fury or a Corsair it need a very good pilot.
Thanks for the comment Mikael, indeed 2 different eras of fighters. The mig-15s should have the clear upper hand but pilot skill matters just as much as the aircraft!
This dude had to have had tungsten balls to take on MIGs in a corsair
Godspeed o7
Many thanks for your awesome video! My parents and 2 Aunts worked at the "Chance Vought Aircraft" plant in Stratford, Connecticut during World War ll, and now that they're all gone, it brought a smile of pride to my face, and tears of fond remembrance to my heart.. ❤
Thanks Greg, a beautiful comment and we are happy to hear that you could use our video to remember them. The greatest generation! they may be gone but continue to exist in stories like these never to be forgotten, that is the entire purpose of our channel, to tell the untold stories of WW2 in the hopes of keeping them alive :)
You should do the story about the F 15 lost half a wing and Still made it back
Really awesome video about a story I barely knew. That corsair you show at the beginning isn't his actual aircraft though. That one is a F4U-5N, No.123168, which fought in the 1969 "Soccer War" for Honduras against El Salvador. Its painted to look like another -5N, No.122179, which it used parts from to be restored. Folmar's aircraft was No.97201 and was a -4B which looked a little different. Both are painted the same, just Folmar's would have been No.9 instead of 5.
One F4U Corsair against 8 Mig 15s?
Sounds like a fair fight to me.
You sure it’s not war thunder?
I love the aesthetics of the F4U.
The very first time i watched Baa Baa Black Sheep as a child on cable i fell in love.
The corsair was a lot better plane than many thought !
What a Pilot and Hero!!!
"The only thing that is impossible is that which you have not attempted to do"
"It's not the plane Mav, it's the pilot!"
My grandfather flew corsairs in the pacific theater of ww2. They will always be a great plane
With stories like this it's even more ridiculous that guns/cannons were made redundant (at first) on F4 Phantoms.
Outstanding person he became part of the plane when he flew it or the plane part of him that's why he was so good ,,I'm glad he survived great person even saved the other enemy pilot and also his friend,that's why America was so respected
This is some shit you’d find in war thunder. But to be honest what held him back the most was the weight of his massive balls fighting a jet in a prop
“It’s not about the plane, it’s about the pilot.”
-Maverick
Guy is a full on badass. He must have eaten his Wheaties that morning.
I have heard about Carmichael & his Sea Fury but never knew this. 👍👍 Many thanx.
Corsairs always remind me of Baa Baa Black sheep. Great show.
i heard about this story for decades , so it was very cool to finally get some facts , thank you
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“War emergency power”
Sick.
Lt. Daniels was my father and never flew in Korea. He flew for the 75th Fighter Squadron 23rd. Fighter Group under General Chennault in China. He's mentioned several times in the book by his friend and squadron mate, Donald Lopez book "Into the Teeth of the Tiger". BTW my Dad's youngest brother was killed flying a Corsair of Florida in a mid air training accident.
Pictured during this video was a MiG-15 in U.S. Air Force markings. It was flown to American forces in 1954 by a North Korean pilot who was defecting. The MiG was taken to Guam for extensive testing and analysis, wearing its newly applied American markings. It was quite a prize.
Ah the beautiful plane that gave us close air support doctrine for the modern age.. cant believe he survived a dog fight with a corsair.. against several mig 15s (which honestly weren't much better than prop planes anyway..)