The financial market is a very rewarding industry indeed but, trading is a highly technical job with years of experience required and not something you can do by watching RUclips videos or finding silly patterns on a graph in your bedroom…
Lol! It’s no gamble. But if you treat the market like a casino then the market will treat you like a gambler! I believe it’s best to leave some things to the professionals
My trades are being managed by Ms. Christine Mila, a FINRA-certified pro trader and risk analyst. She gives me directions in the market and with her system I’m able to record consistency in my outcomes without major detriments to my portfolio.
Most people don't have the patience or faith in long term investing. I use 2x ATR as my intitial trailing stop loss, and I don't touch it. This has worked quite well, but my trades can last months. Most don't have the patience- it's an instant gratification world.
Great info. This video is from 3 years ago. Is there a way to check for updates in the percentages? The ones in this video are based on the averages from the 10 years previous to the video. Where is a good place to look up these averages?
Thank you I have been trying to base mine off the ATR. But it can be so subjective based on where the current price is within the range, previous abnormal volume and gaps. I felt like I was guessing a bit too much. I look forward to testing this strategy out.
In the 10 years simulation, what do you do after the positions are sold? In real life, people will try to get back in after stock drop further from previous sell point. That will ensure additional profits.
This was very helpful! Especially the research for the best % for large, medium, and small cap stocks. Is it possible for you to determine the best percentages for SPY and QQQ? That would be an awesome video!!
For large cap, wouldn't a 25%-30% trailing stop be a bit much, like your not really mitigating much loss there. Also I think you should backtest based on the volatility of the stock. For example, although WMT and Tesla are both Large cap, Tesla is much volatile and a 10% trailing stop would be more likely to get hit then WMT. Simulation should not be based on market cap alone.
Do you recommend setting trailing stops with your broker? I have been advised NOT to do this as market makers can see your orders and clean you out if the circumstances present themselves.
How do you set your stop so you can sit there watching and follow it up and down without having to change stop your order? I've seen people follow their stop up and down but they didn't show how to set it. Do you have to uncheck the box that makes you confirm a new order?
But, its a different percentage all together for ETFs such as S&P 500, since it usually only move up or down about 1-2% , I usually put my trailing stop loss at 4%
I usually do a 3% TSL and sometimes 2% but since I started doing this my account has started to grow. Before doing this I would hold on to bad trades. Now I do this automatically and it has taken my emotions out. I figure if my timing is off I can always reenter.
If one day a stock goes up the new high price considered by the trailing stop order is the one at closing of the day at 4:00 pm? Or it is the highest price the stock reaches during the day?
Hi. What about the Fibonacci Golden Ratio, 61.8% (38.2% in relation to your examples of 35, 30, 25% etc.)? For example, I have decided that a company is a good investment, I do not want to check their market cap/it is in a smaller country... Thank you.
I bought 10 shares and I want to sell 2 shares at 7% 2 shares at 15 % gain 2 shares at 22% gain and the rest 4 shares a Trailing stop at 15 % but I like also to put a trailing stop of my 10 shares at 15% in case the market turn down right away . Can I do that ? Is there a way to do that ? my broker won't let me do that . thank you for help
I would like to point out that the ten year period in which he uses market data is during a period of time in which the economy was bullish. It was bullish a massive majority of the time during the recovery from 2008. We are still bullish today, but history tells us that can only last so long. I would also like to see this simulation run during periods that would better represent the market trends we will enter after this bubble bursts. I'd wager those trailing stops would be tighter.
If you’re gonna use a 35% trailing stop you might as well not use a stop at all So when it craters you have to hope it doesn’t trigger that stop so you lose 35%?
Well it depends how you look at it. If you have enough money to cover the cap gain taxes, then when you re-buy at the low and you will have more shares when you recycle the gains. Also if it doesn't keep going up you will lose more and more. On the other hand if it keeps on a general trend upwards then does it really matter? *Risk management* Ive gained a few pretty pennies with trailing sells and trailing buys afterwards on the same stock. At least that's my personal opinion.
I don't understand how these returns are calculated. You say the 35% trailing stop was the best for large cap. Is that simply because you're more likely holding the stock for a the 10 year duration vs. a 10% trailing stop? Are you not re-investing after the 10% trailing stop hits? That would make sense why 10% underperforms since you're just simply invested for a way shorter amount of time.
You site backtesting of 10 years to assert the best strategies for setting trailing stops. I would like to see some of that info and how it was derived. You suggest Small, Medium, and Large Cap percentages but neglect to say anything about Mega caps. Any suggestions related to that? Are the suggested strategies related to whether or not you have profit within the underlying or are they primarily related to preserving invested capital loss, or does it apply no matter where you are (gains/losses) within the underlying? I appreciate your perspective, as many other trailing stop advocates are talking mostly about day trading or swing trading, rather than longer-term investors. If you could further elaborate on your application of this strategy, it would be appreciated.
i dont know if you answer questions but... Is there such a thing as setting a price at which a trailing stop get activated/ triggered . For example: set a 30% trailing stop activation once XYZ ( currently at $40 ) surpasses $55 a share. I am on standard TD Ameritrade website and cant figure it out.
I suck so bad.. I use Mac d, s/r, rsi and MA and still suck. Only way I can make money is too aim for 2% profit off every trade.🤦🏽♂️, Is that normal.. what percentage of risk should I set for stop loss
Yup, you’re right Matthew!
When done with a structured approach there are so many great advantages that come from trading I know for a fact.
The financial market is a very rewarding industry indeed but, trading is a highly technical job with years of experience required and not something you can do by watching RUclips videos or finding silly patterns on a graph in your bedroom…
“When done with a structured approach”? You now have a chart to support your gambling.
Lol! It’s no gamble. But if you treat the market like a casino then the market will treat you like a gambler! I believe it’s best to leave some things to the professionals
My trades are being managed by Ms. Christine Mila, a FINRA-certified pro trader and risk analyst. She gives me directions in the market and with her system I’m able to record consistency in my outcomes without major detriments to my portfolio.
Hey Otis,
what’s your honest take on your experience with her? I’m kind of impressed!
This is one of the best explanations I’ve ever seen on RUclips for trailing stops. Thank you 🙏
thank you !! the best I have seen so far. thank you
question is trailing stop loss better or or say 8-10% our of the money married put ??
thank you
Most people don't have the patience or faith in long term investing. I use 2x ATR as my intitial trailing stop loss, and I don't touch it.
This has worked quite well, but my trades can last months. Most don't have the patience- it's an instant gratification world.
Great start at 2x. Have you played with adjusting your multiplier based on the changing VIX?
Great info. This video is from 3 years ago. Is there a way to check for updates in the percentages? The ones in this video are based on the averages from the 10 years previous to the video. Where is a good place to look up these averages?
Do you set the trailing stop right at the beginning or do you wait for the contract to get to a certain percent profit?
This was excellent, especially the percentage discussion and analysis. Excellent !
Thank you I have been trying to base mine off the ATR. But it can be so subjective based on where the current price is within the range, previous abnormal volume and gaps. I felt like I was guessing a bit too much. I look forward to testing this strategy out.
In the 10 years simulation, what do you do after the positions are sold? In real life, people will try to get back in after stock drop further from previous sell point. That will ensure additional profits.
This was very helpful! Especially the research for the best % for large, medium, and small cap stocks. Is it possible for you to determine the best percentages for SPY and QQQ? That would be an awesome video!!
For large cap, wouldn't a 25%-30% trailing stop be a bit much, like your not really mitigating much loss there. Also I think you should backtest based on the volatility of the stock. For example, although WMT and Tesla are both Large cap, Tesla is much volatile and a 10% trailing stop would be more likely to get hit then WMT. Simulation should not be based on market cap alone.
I think his style is to hold the sticks for long time period. It may not work at all for day traders and traders who buy and sell in few days.
@@manojjacob563625-35% would be a market crash ! Even for long term that seems a lot to me. 10% is good I think. The you can reinvest later.
Hi Matthew. What's the best way (is there one?) to determine percentage-wise how much a stock's price fluctuates in a given day or week?
What percentage would you recommend for AMC?
Do you recommend setting trailing stops with your broker? I have been advised NOT to do this as market makers can see your orders and clean you out if the circumstances present themselves.
I have feel the same. Whenever I do a stop sale, it always get hit and my stock get sold. All the the stock rally afterwards.
How about for Tesla stocks, what should be the ideal % for the trailing stop ?
How do you set your stop so you can sit there watching and follow it up and down without having to change stop your order? I've seen people follow their stop up and down but they didn't show how to set it. Do you have to uncheck the box that makes you confirm a new order?
Thanks for explaining this. You didn't speak to quickly, like many educators online, and you gave very clear examples.
Glad it was helpful!
What price do you base the trailing stop on? The Bid? The Ask? The actual trades? Thanks.
I think it's based on your entry price, i.e. apply the percentage to the per/share price that you paid.
Great video, damn I just learned something today, thanks Matthew
But, its a different percentage all together for ETFs such as S&P 500, since it usually only move up or down about 1-2% , I usually put my trailing stop loss at 4%
Thanks for tip
Was wondering that myself. I'm curious what the statistics are for these relative to percentages.
I usually do a 3% TSL and sometimes 2% but since I started doing this my account has started to grow. Before doing this I would hold on to bad trades. Now I do this automatically and it has taken my emotions out. I figure if my timing is off I can always reenter.
What about US100?
If one day a stock goes up the new high price considered by the trailing stop order is the one at closing of the day at 4:00 pm? Or it is the highest price the stock reaches during the day?
It's the price the stock closes at.
what is the percentage taken from?
Hi.
What about the Fibonacci Golden Ratio, 61.8% (38.2% in relation to your examples of 35, 30, 25% etc.)?
For example, I have decided that a company is a good investment, I do not want to check their market cap/it is in a smaller country...
Thank you.
Would you recommend using a tighter stop in this overbought market to protect profits?
Simple and excellent explanation. I loved it. Thank you.
Fantastic explanation and summation. Cheers!
Pro tip: if you agree with this guy at 2:30 that that’s a lot of math that seems complex, find something other than trading to do with your time!
Some of us didn’t make it out of elementary school!
😂
What about on options?
I bought 10 shares and I want to sell 2 shares at 7% 2 shares at 15 % gain 2 shares at 22% gain and the rest 4 shares a Trailing stop at 15 % but I like also to put a trailing stop of my 10 shares at 15% in case the market turn down right away . Can I do that ? Is there a way to do that ? my broker won't let me do that . thank you for help
I want to practice tiering trailing stops with oCO.. and tp.
What about for crypto on binance exchange ?
I would like to point out that the ten year period in which he uses market data is during a period of time in which the economy was bullish. It was bullish a massive majority of the time during the recovery from 2008. We are still bullish today, but history tells us that can only last so long. I would also like to see this simulation run during periods that would better represent the market trends we will enter after this bubble bursts. I'd wager those trailing stops would be tighter.
Those of us who are only experienced in the current market type may find it difficult to adapt to bearish style trading.
If you’re gonna use a 35% trailing stop you might as well not use a stop at all
So when it craters you have to hope it doesn’t trigger that stop so you lose 35%?
If the stock goes up 300% your new stop is 265%
stops too tight no room to run
Makes sense t
No. Just no. Rookie traders.... you always want a define risk.
Liked because Douglas Adams.
what would be the simulations ressults if we replace the fiix percentages with the VWAP?
Should trailing stops be used at all for long term plays that you expect to only continuously go up?
That’s exactly I was thinking 🤔?
Well it depends how you look at it. If you have enough money to cover the cap gain taxes, then when you re-buy at the low and you will have more shares when you recycle the gains. Also if it doesn't keep going up you will lose more and more. On the other hand if it keeps on a general trend upwards then does it really matter? *Risk management* Ive gained a few pretty pennies with trailing sells and trailing buys afterwards on the same stock.
At least that's my personal opinion.
I'm here for the kibble n bits
I don't understand how these returns are calculated. You say the 35% trailing stop was the best for large cap. Is that simply because you're more likely holding the stock for a the 10 year duration vs. a 10% trailing stop? Are you not re-investing after the 10% trailing stop hits? That would make sense why 10% underperforms since you're just simply invested for a way shorter amount of time.
You site backtesting of 10 years to assert the best strategies for setting trailing stops. I would like to see some of that info and how it was derived. You suggest Small, Medium, and Large Cap percentages but neglect to say anything about Mega caps. Any suggestions related to that? Are the suggested strategies related to whether or not you have profit within the underlying or are they primarily related to preserving invested capital loss, or does it apply no matter where you are (gains/losses) within the underlying? I appreciate your perspective, as many other trailing stop advocates are talking mostly about day trading or swing trading, rather than longer-term investors. If you could further elaborate on your application of this strategy, it would be appreciated.
Thank you. Nice Video. What about the MAR Ratio/the downside Risk?! :)
Thanks for the simulation stats! Love hard evidence
Makes sense. Simple but thought provoking. Thanks Matthew.
Thanks man!
25% Stop loss?? Yeah, let me go ahead and take a $50,000 hit on my account. 😂 That's insane.
Me watching this after I have used a 10% trailing stop loss on nearly all my stocks😢
Great video. Very silly and annoying sound effects. But really great content. Thank you
Just subd thank you
That dog clip had me laughing too hard 😂
i dont know if you answer questions but... Is there such a thing as setting a price at which a trailing stop get activated/ triggered . For example: set a 30% trailing stop activation once XYZ ( currently at $40 ) surpasses $55 a share. I am on standard TD Ameritrade website and cant figure it out.
If there is I've not heard of it
Only thing you can do is set alerts for when it reaches that price and then set the stop.
It's called a trail stop limit.
Only thing it don’t work pre and post market .
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I suck so bad.. I use Mac d, s/r, rsi and MA and still suck. Only way I can make money is too aim for 2% profit off every trade.🤦🏽♂️, Is that normal.. what percentage of risk should I set for stop loss
Have you gotten any better?
Much better. Thanks
@@raydolo5775 how did you get better? i need tips so bad
Or you can 10 minus 25percent.
One normal video in a sea of crypto nonsense 😊
Ugh
thumbs down for the rock music in your intro and the bad jokes, didn't come here for that