As much as I love when he goes all "fire and brimstone" on some hapless theist I love him all the more when he's playing a small room. So personable, playful, charming and authentic.
Christopher Hitchens was one of the few intellectually honest leftists exposing the Clinton crime family. Hitchens also was not afraid to criticize the religion of islam and pointed out the hypocrisy of many on the left who defend Islam to the hilt.
@@no40acresandamuleforyou.47 Islam started as a religion and now it became a political concept and it crossed the boundary of religion and expanded and linked to multiple thing linked to the society.
Someone said in a comment made here a couple of years ago that it was the first video in which he had seen Hitch laugh and he was correct, it's the first time I have seen him actually laugh. He obviously enjoyed being with this audience, also not having a debating opponent meant he could possibly relax a little. I never knew the man or saw him in person but I feel I miss him, he touches the senses that few can reach. I only started watching his videos about one year ago, he is a massive loss to the subjects in which he debated and his much too early death has made it easier for his opponents. The Hitchens depth of knowledge made it virtually impossible for him to loose a debate and you have to take your hat off to his meticulous preparation on every subject on which he spoke. He must be up there in the top echelons of intellectual minds and greatest orators who have ever lived.
Yeah, I think this is the only video I've seen where he's not at the edge of his seat waiting to hitchslap his opponent. I like this pleasant version because you get to see a number of other view points he has about the subject. Phenomenal.
I've seen him smirk or grin, but that's also probably the only time I've seen him actually laugh. I miss him a lot. We need him more than ever right now. :(
@Stacy Caruso Hitchens stood against totalitarian régimes all his life (including in this very talk, where he takes down Mao and Stalin). You probably haven't paid much attention to his work.
not genius enough .. he didn't acknowledge God EVEN AFTER ALL THE HORROR HE WITNESSED HE KNEW CUS THEY EXIST but *my God is love and I'm sure Jesus gave Him one last chance*
"Up with this, we'll not put" Mr. Hitchens will go down as one of the most influential authors/personalities of our time. Thankfully we have youtube and the internet to remember him.
This is one of my new favorite videos of Hitch. I love how we get to see a more humorous and lighthearted side to him. Although it does make me miss him even more... Not just as a great speaker, but simply as a good man, of which we have not enough these days. But at least we still have the videos to remember him by. You know, I still haven't been able to bring myself to watch his final speech. Maybe someday...
wow, been watching just about every Hitchens video on youtube over the last few years but have only just stumbled upon the series of vids from this particular talk. what a great find and an enjoyable way for me to remember Hitch on the day of his passing...
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I like the way the man asked the question - usually when religious people ask such questions, it's de facto an attack on atheistic "version" of love, if such even exists. This one was an honest question, not loaded.
It's quite simply ridiculous to believe that love and forgiveness can only come from a spiritual being. However, some people have this notion and it makes them better people. My parents were on drugs for a few years and their belief in God helped them get, and stay clean. I'm very thankful and proud of them. I believe it was within their own will power and self respect that got them to the point where they threw that life away. Then again, if "God" and faith got them through it, then that is fine. But love should not be only tied to a superior being.
Whenever I see discourse on American tv from the 90s and earlier I'm always shocked at how intelligent it is compared to today. As someone who grew up in the 90s and assumed this forward momentum would continue indefinitely, it's depressing to see such a regression.
A wise man who did not believe in a creator god once said, “Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love; this is the eternal rule.” He also said, “Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.” ― Buddha Siddhartha Guatama Shakyamuni Now, do some research and find even one war started to forcefully prosletize Buddhism. I won't insult your intelligence by asking you find a war caused in the name of one of the Abrahamic religions.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence Not as bad as the Abrahamic religions, but the TLDR is that people will always try to bend religion to give validity to their violent intentions.
Read his last book "Mortality" if you haven't already. It left me with tears running down my neck, but it helped get over the massive loss of this great man.
You do not need the bible or a religion to tell you the difference between right and wrong or that we should love those who deserve to be loved. I think it is common sense to seek love, peace, happiness, and affection. Every living creature desires to be at peace and happy and loved. The goal should be to survive as long as possible in peace and happiness. In the new testament it says to love your enemies which is really stupid. Do you really expect me to love someone that treats me with disrespect and hatred or someone that does something horrible to me or one of my family members? I refuse to love someone like that and i would rather have nothing to do with them or i would desire that evildoers be punished in some way.
Loving your enemies is much harder to achieve then loving someone who loves you back. One is conditional the other unconditional, hence the reason why it takes greater strength and is morally superior. I understand it's rare and not practical, but never the less, we should all strive to obtain such love in order to be better individuals.
You have entered the ultimate human conundrum when you consider the turn the other cheek parable..its a bit like the ,"All men are created equal" paradigm..you can spend a lifetime defining where you stand in the face of these axioms. Good luck on your journey,be brave and think beyond yourself.
Again, Hitchens evaded the question. He was asked where love comes from, and he responded by criticizing scripture and re-iterating that atheists can in fact themselves feel love. Neither answered the question.
There was no one like Hitchens. Imagine him being president ...no religion taught in schools etc. No tax breaks for religions (pathetic ) what a much better and happier place to be.
The mellifluousness of Hitch's speech makes even nobel prize winners and other such geniuses sound like inarticulate bumblers. The mainstram of society may well covet Brad Pitt's abs, or Angelina's lips, or Jennifer's hair, but I'm sure there are a great many here who would undergo experimental neurosurgery to possess something like Hitchens' temporal lobes, with his extraordinary ability to access a vast store of anecdotes and arguments, facts and figures, without a moment's hesitation.
My silly religion joke:- "What did Richard Gere say when he died and got to heaven to find the Jews in charge? "I can't believe it's not Buddah!" Terrible i know, I'll get me coat.
at 3:15 he says love can be felt, but he doesn't ever go into detail on what love is and from where it's derived. Does he believe it's purely biological or that it's adaptation for survival?
Thanks for your reply Peter. I'm already researching bonobos. Can I ask you about your views on "moral" love, what you think this is and how and where lennon sings about it? Very interesting.
Sounds reasonable .... also the thought that it may be similar to addiction seems possible. We become 'hooked' on one or more others like drugs or cigarrettes, we can't stand to be apart from them, suffer withdrawal when broken up, do things for and to obtain them we wouldn't normally do, etc.
The link to the full video has been altered. Place a "library" before "fora.tv..." library.fora.tv/2007/05/10/Christopher_Hitchens_at_Politics_and_Prose
@Rtystic Profs, grad students who specialize in history, anthropology, theology, philosophy debate this stuff all the time through academic journals and conferences. They are not going to bother coming on to youtube to debate UFC Hitchtards. Similarly, geologists, physicists, biologists usually don't bother with Creationists. It's not worth their time.
Hate also comes from Love. But, Love does not come from Hate. I don't mean this in a kumbaya kinda way. I mean you hate what threatens. And in that way you protect what you hold dear. People don't get this. They think Hate is some kind of cult that brainwashed you. Its in your very DNA. Its not an abstract concept or temporary emotion. It is the horns of a rhino, the claws of a lion.
@PeterKuriakose well in jewish faith they dont often talk about heaven or hell at all.. but going to the grave if not explicity spoken of as hell is often refferred to as heaven or place of paradise.. I think david would have been assured of his salvation due to his covenant with God. He was special in Gods eyes, therefore him going to meet his son would imply paradise because that is where david is going.
It seemed he always kept the door open to the existence of a higher power but definitely not religion. Did he have a theory on how the religions of the world formed?
It's pretty obvious how the religions of the world formed: The natural world is full of seemingly supernatural mysteries that primitive societies hadn't figured out yet, so the obvious assumption is that a supernatural force or being was responsible.
Would anyone here protest if I shared a Poem? I'm feeling rather treacly. _Brighton Margaret DeChienne is an Elite, Poet, & part-time Aesthete who wishes to share unsolicited verse when the fancy strikes._
Not that in any pathetic attempt at solipsism I would claim to know more about any given subject than Mr. Hitchens, let alone the 16th President of the United States or the author of On the Origin of Species. But from 4:19-4:26 it is 12 February 1809, not 1819, that both of these emancipators are birthed into our world. I myself would attribute this completly minor slip of the tongue to what must have been the intoxicating effect of speaking so eloquently to that small gathering of people.
Panos, The only way one could seriously say everything he says makes Christians look good is if they are already a believer, and they've made up their minds before arriving at the conversation. And he died without a deathbed conversion, going so far as to be careful to take precautions so theists wouldnt lie about him, as they did Darwin. That shouldn't depress you...unless you feel God punishes us for eternity for non-belief. In which case Hitchens was right, God is awful.
As much as I love when he goes all "fire and brimstone" on some hapless theist I love him all the more when he's playing a small room. So personable, playful, charming and authentic.
Christopher Hitchens was one of the few intellectually honest leftists exposing the Clinton crime family. Hitchens also was not afraid to criticize the religion of islam and pointed out the hypocrisy of many on the left who defend Islam to the hilt.
@@no40acresandamuleforyou.47 Islam started as a religion and now it became a political concept and it crossed the boundary of religion and expanded and linked to multiple thing linked to the society.
@@strikerpepsi2941 Christianity is the same way.
@@richicks425 ok .
yep.. *playin* .. lol
Someone said in a comment made here a couple of years ago that it was the first video in which he had seen Hitch laugh and he was correct, it's the first time I have seen him actually laugh.
He obviously enjoyed being with this audience, also not having a debating opponent meant he could possibly relax a little.
I never knew the man or saw him in person but I feel I miss him, he touches the senses that few can reach.
I only started watching his videos about one year ago, he is a massive loss to the subjects in which he debated and his much too early death has made it easier for his opponents.
The Hitchens depth of knowledge made it virtually impossible for him to loose a debate and you have to take your hat off to his meticulous preparation on every subject on which he spoke.
He must be up there in the top echelons of intellectual minds and greatest orators who have ever lived.
Magnificently said!!!
Hitchens thought that people shouldnt have idols
Yeah, I think this is the only video I've seen where he's not at the edge of his seat waiting to hitchslap his opponent. I like this pleasant version because you get to see a number of other view points he has about the subject. Phenomenal.
I've seen him smirk or grin, but that's also probably the only time I've seen him actually laugh. I miss him a lot. We need him more than ever right now. :(
If you haven’t already, read ‘Mortality’.
This man was, is, a fucking genius. Thumbs up for Hitch.
Without a shadow of a doubt! 💖 my Hitch foreva
@Stacy Caruso Hitchens stood against totalitarian régimes all his life (including in this very talk, where he takes down Mao and Stalin). You probably haven't paid much attention to his work.
not genius enough .. he didn't acknowledge God EVEN AFTER ALL THE HORROR HE WITNESSED HE KNEW CUS THEY EXIST but *my God is love and I'm sure Jesus gave Him one last chance*
"Up with this, we'll not put"
Mr. Hitchens will go down as one of the most influential authors/personalities of our time. Thankfully we have youtube and the internet to remember him.
Directly quoting Winston Churchill there.
He quotes so easily, and his repertoire is amazing. I love the man. There's not another like him
What a great man.....i could eatch and listen to him speaking all day long.Thank goodness all these clips are on the 'net
I wish i could have half of his command of the English language. And he had balls.
As a former christian I've yet to meet one who can match Hitchens wit, charm, and razor sharp logic.
He always leaves me in a hypnotic state, I adore this man!
Great question. Greater answer.
What a man. There will never be anyone quite like Hitchens. Some may come close, but will be found wanting
I’m a simple man. I see Hitchens, I upvote.
This is one of my new favorite videos of Hitch.
I love how we get to see a more humorous and lighthearted side to him.
Although it does make me miss him even more...
Not just as a great speaker, but simply as a good man, of which we have not enough these days.
But at least we still have the videos to remember him by.
You know, I still haven't been able to bring myself to watch his final speech.
Maybe someday...
it was rough, almost wish I didn't watch it
When my brain dies, nothing will exist any more for me, so I try my best to love my friends and families and enjoy what I’ve gotten now
wow, been watching just about every Hitchens video on youtube over the last few years but have only just stumbled upon the series of vids from this particular talk. what a great find and an enjoyable way for me to remember Hitch on the day of his passing...
I like the way the man asked the question - usually when religious people ask such questions, it's de facto an attack on atheistic "version" of love, if such even exists.
This one was an honest question, not loaded.
Great answer, and he left out the story of Abraham's son.
We miss you, Christopher.
Love how he goes Yoda for the last bit "up with this we will not put"
I’m on mushrooms and that first dude’s shirt is tripping me tf out
Happened to me also
It's quite simply ridiculous to believe that love and forgiveness can only come from a spiritual being. However, some people have this notion and it makes them better people. My parents were on drugs for a few years and their belief in God helped them get, and stay clean. I'm very thankful and proud of them. I believe it was within their own will power and self respect that got them to the point where they threw that life away. Then again, if "God" and faith got them through it, then that is fine. But love should not be only tied to a superior being.
BRILLIANT, AS USUAL -- THANKS FOR POSTING THIS!
Gotta love informal Hitch.
Sadly lacking in America these days is the discourse of intelligent people. We should import some!
Whenever I see discourse on American tv from the 90s and earlier I'm always shocked at how intelligent it is compared to today. As someone who grew up in the 90s and assumed this forward momentum would continue indefinitely, it's depressing to see such a regression.
The man's question was brilliant!
6:30 holy shit was that his American accent? I really like it
I do believe this is the only video in which I have ever seen Hitch laugh.
Don't know why, but I absolutely love his refusal to end with a preposition.
The Hotdog buying Budist joke is epic.
i miss hitchens
i just learned about this man,...... so far everything he says is perfect! 5 stars
Darwin and Lincoln were born in 1809. Did I just factcheck the great Christopher Hitchens?
Gotta love this performance
What a wonderful man.
up with this we will not put
He didn't believe love needs to be drived from somewhere outside ourselves to be worthy.
"Up with this we will not put". Well put.
Logic is razor sharp and Hitchens wields logic like a samurai sword.
I just love the way he taught us ♡
A wise man who did not believe in a creator god once said, “Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love; this is the eternal rule.”
He also said, “Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.” ― Buddha Siddhartha Guatama Shakyamuni
Now, do some research and find even one war started to forcefully prosletize Buddhism. I won't insult your intelligence by asking you find a war caused in the name of one of the Abrahamic religions.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence
Not as bad as the Abrahamic religions, but the TLDR is that people will always try to bend religion to give validity to their violent intentions.
Read his last book "Mortality" if you haven't already. It left me with tears running down my neck, but it helped get over the massive loss of this great man.
I haven't but, I will!
A beautiful mind
Respect to late great Christopher Hitchens
You do not need the bible or a religion to tell you the difference between right and wrong or that we should love those who deserve to be loved. I think it is common sense to seek love, peace, happiness, and affection. Every living creature desires to be at peace and happy and loved. The goal should be to survive as long as possible in peace and happiness. In the new testament it says to love your enemies which is really stupid. Do you really expect me to love someone that treats me with disrespect and hatred or someone that does something horrible to me or one of my family members? I refuse to love someone like that and i would rather have nothing to do with them or i would desire that evildoers be punished in some way.
Loving your enemies is much harder to achieve then loving someone who loves you back. One is conditional the other unconditional, hence the reason why it takes greater strength and is morally superior. I understand it's rare and not practical, but never the less, we should all strive to obtain such love in order to be better individuals.
George Christopher wrong. This is immoral, but if what you meant is to be better than those who hate, say be better than those who hate.
You have entered the ultimate human conundrum when you consider the turn the other cheek parable..its a bit like the ,"All men are created equal" paradigm..you can spend a lifetime defining where you stand in the face of these axioms. Good luck on your journey,be brave and think beyond yourself.
I can’t believe how much I miss a primate I never met.
Agreed
What a wonderful speaker.
Again, Hitchens evaded the question. He was asked where love comes from, and he responded by criticizing scripture and re-iterating that atheists can in fact themselves feel love. Neither answered the question.
Sam Evetts he didn’t evade the question, he was saying that love comes from experience
Love ils juste illusion
Christopher, I wish you'd never died 😢😔
The nitpicker at the start trying in vain to catch out the hitch.
Hitchens is the world's most insightful intellectual and realist. I love Hitch and I hope he beats his cancer!
Hitchens is the modern day Socrates!
Well said. The Hitch never fails to inform and entertain.
Pure Hitchens brilliance.
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"Remember the love bit"
What a fucking legend
God damn, Hitch is such a fantastic orator. The best of our time.
There was no one like Hitchens. Imagine him being president ...no religion taught in schools etc. No tax breaks for religions (pathetic ) what a much better and happier place to be.
The mellifluousness of Hitch's speech makes even nobel prize winners and other such geniuses sound like inarticulate bumblers. The mainstram of society may well covet Brad Pitt's abs, or Angelina's lips, or Jennifer's hair, but I'm sure there are a great many here who would undergo experimental neurosurgery to possess something like Hitchens' temporal lobes, with his extraordinary ability to access a vast store of anecdotes and arguments, facts and figures, without a moment's hesitation.
Those witty jokes are too funny. Gotta miss this gentleman; my beliefs and curiosity are not enough to push away this incredible human being ☺️😞🌅
what's up with all these dislikes?? It's a perfectly enjoyable video.
Change can only come from within.
cheers!
your the best i hope more mind the same as you to educate the people that we live in the better future as one human...
"Change comes from within" ;)
In the description, the link to the whole video leads to a dead url.
He was hilarious in this video. :) all moist and husky....
My silly religion joke:- "What did Richard Gere say when he died and got to heaven to find the Jews in charge?
"I can't believe it's not Buddah!"
Terrible i know, I'll get me coat.
One Hitchens!
at 3:15 he says love can be felt, but he doesn't ever go into detail on what love is and from where it's derived. Does he believe it's purely biological or that it's adaptation for survival?
Thanks for your reply Peter. I'm already researching bonobos. Can I ask you about your views on "moral" love, what you think this is and how and where lennon sings about it? Very interesting.
Legend !
Great stuff here man, thanks
couldn't have said it better myself.
Sounds reasonable .... also the thought that it may be similar to addiction seems possible. We become 'hooked' on one or more others like drugs or cigarrettes, we can't stand to be apart from them, suffer withdrawal when broken up, do things for and to obtain them we wouldn't normally do, etc.
I can't find that C. S. Louis quote. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thank you
Where does love come from? Where everything else comes from, GOD!
I believe inteligence is orientation like food or plants and animals and fish in the water
The link to the full video has been altered. Place a "library" before "fora.tv..."
library.fora.tv/2007/05/10/Christopher_Hitchens_at_Politics_and_Prose
Great questions.
@Rtystic Profs, grad students who specialize in history, anthropology, theology, philosophy debate this stuff all the time through academic journals and conferences. They are not going to bother coming on to youtube to debate UFC Hitchtards.
Similarly, geologists, physicists, biologists usually don't bother with Creationists. It's not worth their time.
Cheers!
I admire him. If there is a nice afteplace we can all go to I am certain the Hitch would be welcome. Now whether he accepts that is on him.
Does anyone know where I can find the entire interview??
In the description.
@@zsuzsannamezey8361 The link was broken :(
@@ZombieProdigyUS sorry, didn't know that. :/ Try watching other clips from it, maybe there'll be a good link or some tips from the comments. :)
@@zsuzsannamezey8361 No worries :) I found some more on this channel.
Hate also comes from Love. But, Love does not come from Hate. I don't mean this in a kumbaya kinda way. I mean you hate what threatens. And in that way you protect what you hold dear. People don't get this. They think Hate is some kind of cult that brainwashed you. Its in your very DNA. Its not an abstract concept or temporary emotion. It is the horns of a rhino, the claws of a lion.
@PeterKuriakose well in jewish faith they dont often talk about heaven or hell at all.. but going to the grave if not explicity spoken of as hell is often refferred to as heaven or place of paradise.. I think david would have been assured of his salvation due to his covenant with God. He was special in Gods eyes, therefore him going to meet his son would imply paradise because that is where david is going.
Hitchens is the fucking man!!!
It seemed he always kept the door open to the existence of a higher power but definitely not religion. Did he have a theory on how the religions of the world formed?
It's pretty obvious how the religions of the world formed: The natural world is full of seemingly supernatural mysteries that primitive societies hadn't figured out yet, so the obvious assumption is that a supernatural force or being was responsible.
Would anyone here protest if I shared a Poem? I'm feeling rather treacly.
_Brighton Margaret DeChienne is an Elite, Poet, & part-time Aesthete who wishes to share unsolicited verse when the fancy strikes._
Is the poem forthcoming any time soon? I'm feeling rather treacly too, you see.
TEKRific I'm still composing said poem.
Related: do you Bleach?
@thenewbaron1 I don't know if they are used any more, but a few years back, creationists loved them...
lol make me one with everything, change only comes from within
Is there any living soul that comes close to Hitchens whose carrying in his torch?
We can see love between animals. The cow loves its calf too but we eat them both.
Moist and husky
4:16 Darwin and Lincoln were born in 1809, not 1819.
@EarthCitizen81 I wonder if its the liquor over the years?
At 6:30-6:33 does he do an American accent?
Not that in any pathetic attempt at solipsism I would claim to know more about any given subject than Mr. Hitchens, let alone the 16th President of the United States or the author of On the Origin of Species. But from 4:19-4:26 it is 12 February 1809, not 1819, that both of these emancipators are birthed into our world. I myself would attribute this completly minor slip of the tongue to what must have been the intoxicating effect of speaking so eloquently to that small gathering of people.
it's funny for it's right.
I think he is a little bit more drunk than normaly, in this one^^
Panos,
The only way one could seriously say everything he says makes Christians look good is if they are already a believer, and they've made up their minds before arriving at the conversation.
And he died without a deathbed conversion, going so far as to be careful to take precautions so theists wouldnt lie about him, as they did Darwin. That shouldn't depress you...unless you feel God punishes us for eternity for non-belief. In which case Hitchens was right, God is awful.
@BigG99
I believe he at least implied that it is from within us.
I might just do that.
:)
Is Good a who or a what?