Can England Beat the All Blacks? | Rugby Pod England Squad Reaction
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
- Steve Borthwick has announced his England Squad heading to New Zealand to face the All Blacks so Big Jim and Goodey sit down to discuss the fly half dilemma, tough squad omissions and whether England have what it takes to beat the men in Black...
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England have only won twice on NZ soil, history isn't on their side, but it's their first tour to NZ in a decade, good to see them come back here.
history is nothing on the pitch
What has history got to do with it? This is now. France have won 7 times in NZ including a series win. They are a young side no doubt, but I reckon they can win a test. 2 might be asking a bit too much !
@timmo491 that's what lovers would say
@@timmo491 reminds me of that Split Enz song - "History never repeats, that's what I tell myself as I go to sleep."
Winning in NZ is still the hardest thing to do in World Rugby
SA at altitude probably
@@jormundgandr88 All Blacks do alright in SA , SA not as well in NZ . Boks last win at Eden Park?
1937
@@jormundgandr88 all blacks do it enough to suggest that not the hardest place. Also, Loftus isn’t the fortress that it should be
@@itistrue101 the AB’ are a couple of wins away from having a winning record in SA 😮
@@GBH001 Boks are 24 wins away from having a winning record in NZ
Anyone who has been watching Super Rugby knows the AB's will have a large pack, 915kgs+. They will be more than capable of handling the English forwards. And the talent they have in the backs is superior to the relatively inexperienced English three-quarter combinations. New coaching set-up? New squad? Don't be fooled.
England no chance. Don’t know why people write off the All Blacks
Not writing off….debating whether they could win a match in a 2 horse race. Anyone that says England have no chance is a complete fool. I agree they’re not favourites. But any NZ fan assuming England have absolutely no chance is just arrogant.
England is a very dangerous team for the ABs
However..... The ABs at home is a massive task for any team to over come, England pushed the world champs in the world cup and played well against France n Ireland so I'm excited to see where the ABs stack up to one of the dominant teams in the Northern hemisphere, 😁😁 go the ABs
I have also seen a huge decline in skills and standards
England don’t match up wel anywhere in this series. NZ depth with razor is going to be dangerous
Razor has been waiting a long time for this...AB's will make a statement.
Good luck
Razor . What a toss. Watch him loose more than he wins
"Can England Beat the All Blacks?" yes. "any team can beat any team on the day."
" *WILL* England Beat the All Blacks?" no.
I'd love to see England come down here and play a more expansive style. Win or lose it will be a great spectacle.
Will they bring there own referees from the northern hemisphere
Good luck England. AllBlacks will definitely be ready. No matter what, we will be seeing some great rugby
As a Saffa, I am truly excited to see NZ team getting new coach and new blood. These guys are roaring to go and have a point to prove. Their rugby style is awesome and who ever want to say rhey can beat the AB, good luck.Go AB
All this chat reminds me of the Northern Hemisphere lock out for the 2023 RWC !!! Ooops ..lol
Oh you mean the one point wins everywhere? Margins are very fine my friend.
If England continue where they left off in the 6 Nations, I think they could win the Dunedin game. I don’t think they’ll win the game in Auckland, because nobody wins in Auckland apart from New Zealand.
So long as we don’t get smashed and continue to play like we did against Ireland and France, I’ll be happy.
You lost the last game in the 6 nations and beat Ireland drop goal 80 minutes how does this tell you they will win in Dunedin
@@davidwalker2402
I didn’t say they WILL win, I said the COULD win.
And the reason I think they could win a game is because they demonstrated some promising signs that their game plan is starting to click. There is still some ways to go but if they have a good game and factor in that the All Blacks have a new coach with some big names unavailable through retirement, being overseas or injury, I don’t see why a win is a stretch.
Also, France beat us with a 79 min penalty. Why is that more significant than a 80 min drop goal against Ireland?
@@somanytakennames its not significant what’s more significant is Scotland hammered England. Don’t get carried away i think NZ will be strong favorites and Don’t expect them to lose.
Seriously,no one watching super rugby?DMak,Barrett,Proctor,Telea,Reece,Stevenson backline with toast England with sheer speed,power and precision passing.40-12 game 1😅
@@davidwalker2402
Saying I think England MIGHT win one game isn’t “getting carried away”.
What relevance is the Scotland game? You were referring to the last two games. Also Scotland lost more games than England overall.
You're right that the ABs have lost a lot of IP. They will be a new look team, but they still have fire power all over the park; strong & mobile front row, loose forwards that hit as hard as Jerry Collins used to, a 1st 5/8 that can do things that no other player can, solid midfield, and a back 3 that can shred any team on the break. Underestimate at your peril.
England will be coming to New Zealand with lots of hope, especially of the back of their RWC campaign and rightfully so, they deserve the recognition.
But keep in mind that the All Blacks made the RWC final, and were one point away from winning after the worst four years in their history under Ian Foster. If anyone thinks that the All Blacks are vulnerable, then you really need to think again.
If England want to win, they will need to score 25+.
Haha, you are full of yourself. The last 4 years you can claim as your worst year but your worst years really are yet to come. You play in the most uncompetitive league in the world how are the kiwis going to keep up. All Blacks rugby in on the decline and won’t be coming back.
yes if they can make a final and nearly win it with the worst coach in history imagine what Razor will do.
@@ThePrince24012 imagine Razors loses to England at Eden park. Foster will be seen as a god to the kiwis 🤣.
Razor won’t do much with a country that plays in the worst rugby competition
@@mitch2924 no not really first game just taken over can't expect them to gel immediately as you saw with your underwhelming performance against Wales.
@@ThePrince24012 a 30 points gap despite the underwhelming performance is enough for us Saffa’s…debutants, players just coming back from injuries, a large portion of that team haven’t played together, missing players. Don’t lose at your fortress.
Always love watching England play the ABs in NZ
Historically England have a poor record winning in NZ bit in fairness do most other teams.
With a new exciting coach in Razor and with the quality of NZ rugby am really looking forward to seeing how they go .Both teams are in development, no idea what either will be like. If England can come away with a win from the 2 tests that will be a great result. Shame there are not 3 tests. Either way really looking forward to the games
"Ted Hill is too similar to the Curry boys" WTF?
Do you mean besides the fact he's 4 inches taller (more similar to Chessum and Martin) and 6 kilos heavier? Or that he's a lineout jumper, has real gas, and can bang close to the ruck.
Gutted he's not going
Mad comment by Goode
Given the players available to both teams I’d say it only comes down to how well the team and tactics click on the day.
U don't go ANYWHERE to lose.GO AND WRITE YOUR OWN STORIES!! If England continues to build.. and picks up the pace(!!) there is no question there are the players on hand to really create strength in depth...and really be serious contenders .for next RWC....
Like the squad nice to see new face's win or lose they have to try new face's we can't keep no disrset to the older players but we have to blood new players
There’s a decent chance of catching the AB’s on the hop. IMO there’s a far greater chance now than after Razor has 20 odd tests worth of gelling everything.
ABs will be a bunch of quality individuals but a bit unco as a first hit out with new structure.
A lot of questions will be asked of both teams
We’ll get the Eden Park treatment in the second test but I think the Dunedin test could be close with it being the All Blacks’ first game of the year and some new combinations bedding in. I just hope we actually pick a team to keep the ball in hand and attack them. Trying to just negate NZ won’t work. If you want to win a game over there, I think you have to score 25 points at a minimum.
So looking forward to this tour. I’m picking that the ABs are going to be back to their best. Sorry England.
Can the channel please put up a trigger warning that the video contains a clip where a man suggests one team could play another team and win.
😂
Mate, it's the AB's the GREATEST sports team in the history of sports. A parody disclaimer would be more appropriate.
Remarkable how many times the greatest sports team in the history of sports loses.
@@rob.1 You might want to do a little research and compare their winning record since Inception to other sports teams in ANY code. No other team in any sports comes even close thus making them the GREATEST as stats don't lie. 😉
Good luck besting the ABs. They are always fantastic
We still have the Super Rugby finals down here being played, we don't even know who we will have left standing once they are finished but if the players can come through those last couple of games without to many injury's then the All Blacks will have some nice talent to pick from for this new All Blacks team but they will only have a couple of weeks to to prep for England.
It could go either way. Either Razor will pull the team together really quickly and get the best out of the D-Mack/Jordie Barratt axis (who's had a brilliant season in Super Rugby) and they will smash us OR we will grind them down. This is a new England team and without Ford, we won't have the control we had during the 6Ns. Marcus will start for sure but who in our backline will manage it? I am not sure Smith is there quite yet, he hasn't had many starts in recent times. My guess is that both our 10s will get a start. Saying that, Marcus is the right player to play NZ at their own game and without Mo'unga, NZ don't have any really established, control-focussed 10s either. Both teams are new but I think in NZs backyard, they will shade both tests unfortunately. I don't think we can compare the Ireland test wins, we are way behind in our development. Either way, amazing experience for all our young players. Just the sort of tour to build a team towards 2027.
A new team ? Irrespective of whose in or whose out you still retain Pommy characteristics..... Winging & arrogant delusion. 😉😂
@@mahenocapital5007 that's what makes us great...when we actually start winning :-) I think New Zealanders have a special attitude in their backyard as well though. Definitely new teams on both sides. New combinations certainly.
@@EdLo3 fair enough. 😉
Kiwi fan here. I watched the game against Japan. I expect the new England side needs time to gel yet, and although they won comfortably in the end, I believe the ABs would have put another 20 points on them. I think 'old style' England for the first test, and see how that works. If you win that one, then absolutely Borthwick should try an open game. But based on what I saw, if you don't get forward dominance quickly (and keep it), the ABs will win 2-0. Game one will porbably be within 15 points, but game two? It will be at Eden Park, in front of a rabid bunch of kiwi fanatics, at a test venue the Abs have not been beaten at since 1994 (nearly 50 tests)....but if you do win I will be the first to congratulate you on what will be an outstanding achievement...
You guys should watch more southern hemisphere. Razor is going to have NZ buzzing and flying. Ardie Savea, Mounga and Beauden Barrett all getting ample downtime before the tour.
I hate to say it but I see a 2-0 home win down there.
Not sure why you say NZ team is unknown. Most positions pretty clear id have thought
What speakers are those Jim😊
They'll have to play the perfect game to even get close - will be a blowout
And will have a good team and Razor the new coach is a breath of fresh air.
My only question is hand on heart how many England players would make an ABs 23. I would say maybe 3 or 4 perhaps Itoje, Earl, Curry, Freddie S at a pinch. Says it all really
it is only the NH that ramble on about the abs "aura" no one else talks about that imaginary aura that the NH teams are so worried about
Razor built an intimidating legacy of physicality speed and skill at the Saders. I think that he's looking for players that can tick these boxes. You know that the AB's will attack you. If England don't have an attitude or plan of attack they will get hammered.
In NEW ZEALAND,WE HAV BASICALLY THREE ALL BLACK TEAMS TO CHOOSE FROM TO MAKE UP THE PLAYING 15 ON THE DAY
"are we crazy to believe.....", ....YES we are. Apart from once in a blue moon, it's the same every time we go there. We have a chance, but it's a changed team from the 6nations, club performances never show up on the international stage, and it will take them a whole lot longer to gel. Last win in NZ, back in 2002 it was a settled side, perhaps too settled, this one is not and few will have experienced the NZ style of play. Happy to be proved wrong mind 😀.
Crazy to believe anyone would have the confidence of beating the greatest sports team in the history or sports in their own back yard. Even crazier to think the Poms could do it. 😂
@@mahenocapital5007 yeah that's how I see it. It was the same with football every time a world cup or European cup came along. Too many people wearing blinkers, and it's not the horses
Will Steve Borthwick be thinking more continuity with this emerging attacking new team developing ,And still fast tracking this new defensive system. Jim doesn’t see England having success with that . But we know Borthwick can grind out a dire game system like we did in the World Cup if the main importance is winning only. Picking Randall over JVP suggests we going to continue like we did against Ireland and France . Maybe Autumn games at home the time to get the wins.
Mmm, an Englishman who is starting to sound alot like an Australian. We've heard it all before. This is New Zealand, our weather, our pitch, our game, lights out England, no chance.
Alot of new players in key positions will make all blacks very vulnerable in the first couple of months.New 9,7,10,15,4,5....alot of 100+ tests match players gone at once. So this will be englands best oppertunity to stun the Abs in NZ.
Crusaders not making playoffs will be a blessing for Razor. Blues,Canes and chiefs player can test their BMT for finals. Crusaders lads had plenty of that the past 7 years under Razor.
I called it before the world cup that Sam Cane was going to be NZs downfall they should of made Ardie the Captain and left out Sam Cane ... I feel the same scenario with England and Tom Curry he is a hazard. Anyways that's just my 2c I'm just a couch coach 🤣 but really excited for these tests coming up NZ v England and SA v Ireland mouth watering
Just curious, why do you think TC is a problem?
Ardie has leadership qualities, but I think Sam was a better Captain. Ardie is the people's Captain, but to get the job done, you need to be the team Captain, which means you are not going to be popular.
@@dougsaunders8109he targets lower limbs in rucks and he’s a Wit Kant 😂
England fans will be able to watch three NZ teams play in the Super Rugby semi finals this weekend. The All Blacks in the Crusaders and Highlanders will have already received Robertsons game plan. Exciting times.
FARK!! This Super comp this year is the most exciting its been for a loooong while. Its no fluke the Crusaders being just 10% off their norm is out of the finals while same time the Oz teams generally have lifted their competitiveness and mongrel but maaan that Canes front row is scary as f$%k.
So long as Razor picks on form and not on relationship as Taylor and Barrett aside, no other forwards from ChCh should come anywhere near a black jersey this season. Gotta be the Canes front row and Taylor and the rest from the Chiefs and Blues and Barrett
Here we go again heard it all before it doesn't matter how good england are or that NZ have a new team new coach your in NZ playing the All Blacks,the ABs legacy is more intimidating then any opposition nothing has suggested to me England's gonna win at all they're always up against it wen the face the ABs in NZ ✊️
I Think it will be a Fantastic Test Match from The All Blacks and England also. Very Physical and Fierce definitely. But i Will put my Money on The All Blacks. As long as they Stick to there Game plan, and play with Motivation. Score 38 to 18 All Blacks Win.
We are very thin over here! Only one class 10 in Dmac and maybe Barrett but to many injuries! Eng should be confident!
??? key injuries who?
@@stephportablepagan8759 Jordan, tuipolutu! Taukeiaho, roigard
ABs need time to gel but are certainly not "vulnerable" or "fractured" as some of the NH pundits are suggesting.
The front row is sorted they can go toe to toe with any nation and provide a solid platform, plenty of depth in the props, hooker is abit weaker with taukeaho out but they have decent cover, aumua is a freight train hopefully he gets a shot.
Second row is questionable but scott barrett and tupou vaai as the starters are no pushovers whatsoever. The backup has potential but unproven at test level, Tuipolotu will add some much needed experience when he comes back from injury.
The depth in the backrow is absolutely stacked we could easily have a list of 10 players fighting for these positions.
9 is questionable with smith gone and roigard injured but theirs decent cover certainly no lack in raw talent.
10 is fine with Dmac has matured and is absolutely devastating when in form which he currently is,
a backup is needed we have BB for now but hes not a long term option in my opinion. Some solid young ones coming through but no "eye catchers," just yet.
Centers are world class with barret and Ioane, plenty of depth and players to choose, I hope they give the wrecking ball Levi Amua a shot but it's been hard for him to shine at the crusaders this year for obvious reasons.
Outside backs are absolutely stacked even with jordan out.
The depth in the outside backs superb, even with jordan gone at fullback they have 2 young superstars in Shaun Stevenson and Ruben Love who can play fullback.
And the wingers are absolutely lethal with Reece, Talea, Narawa and the now inform beast of a winger that is Caleb Clarke
I have the same sentiments when I see the England squad. Just know a handful of them. So, that argument of not knowing who the new ABs players are is irrelevant. I believe it will be a great series, yet the ABs will surely make a statement.
Shackles are off with Razor at the helm
he will get the best out the players, and some of the new inclusions will bring some starch
Haven't been following the English team. Will they bore the All Blacks into submission?
Possibly but there does appear to be a shift away from the kick chase game. England chucked the ball around a fair bit against Ireland and France. England’s pack is good, but I would say New Zealand have a clear advantage in the back line.
kiwi here. england could for sure create a boil over in test one but Razor has been waiting for years to get his chance.
As a kiwi and abs fan obviously, I watched england beat nz in japan at the stadium. Gutted. From that point on and all through fosters reign it was such a feeling of doom and gloom and poor selections and no planning for the future and playing guys out of position. So So So mortal under foster. The world cup been was by all means a good result for us. But now under razor, a great super rugby comp, Ill be at the eden park vs eng game coming up and there is a real sense of something special brewing under razors guidance. I think this abs squad will dominate and peak in 2 years.
England will have the edge having played a test match, All Blacks will be rusty, but hopefully be a good match, all the best.
England have the edge . 🤣🤣🤣.. AB is rusty.. 🤣🤣🤣.
@@chrisdutoit8843 careful you could be crying after the match 😂😂😭😭😭
@@jamestoaifolia8609 🤣🤣in rugby anything is possible. But good luck to any and all who play NZ on NZ home soil.
Dont believe for a second NZ are vulnerable. I took XV from final and added players to replace those not available. No.4 is only area i'm not sure about, rest still quality. Excluded new caps because who the hell know what Razor is thinking
15 Beauden Barrett
14 Will Jordan (Sevu Reece)
13 Rieko Ioane
12 Jordie Barrett
11 Mark Telea
10 Richie Mo'unga (Damian McKenzie)
9 Aaron Smith (Finlay Christie)
8 Ardie Savea
7 Sam Cane (Dalton Papalii)
6 Shannon Frizell (Akira Ioane)
5 Scott Barrett
4 Brodie Retallick (Tupou vaa'i)
3 Tyrel Lommax
2 Codie Taylor
1 Ethan de Groot
I've been known to like a "tall 6" as well
First 20 minutes will be very physical. ABs 2 nil
It feels like people still say ‘big English pack’ out of habit even though it’s been years since they’ve really had one. The NZ pack is a big, physical unit and they’ll especially look like they’ll have a physical advantage in the back row. I think it could be a difficult couple of weeks…
With Robertson in charge i can see a long period of
dominance returning for the all blacks harking back to the
Graham Henry days.
England will front up and put in a massive effort and it will be close for 55min in one test but will lose by 15-20 points in both.
Just because you dont know the abs doesn’t mean they are an unknown.
It's the same story every bloody year. England ain't winning shit down under unless NZ throw the last game to introduce new players
This is a great chance for England, keep in mind our last coach was the second worst coach in All Black history. So it's going to be interesting, really looking forward to it.
Well apart from the first 4 years of Eddie Jones England have not had a decent coach since 2003. My jury is still out on Borthwick (mainly because hes English), but the semi in RWC `23 and 2 very useful performances in the 6 Nations. There has been a bit more dross interspersed amongst these, but Im a bit more optimistic now.
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I honestly think ENGLAND gonna get smacked!!......
Theres some thing about RAZOR (AB Coach).....he manages to bring the best out of team in any situation
The start of a new era begins now........
As an outsider if England want to win at least 1 test in nz fin smith has to start I am sorry but Marcus smith doesn’t fill me with joy if he has to manage a kicking game great attacking game but I think fin smith is a more rounded player for me but if you want to gung ho all out attack then it’s Marcus more kicking and territorial game than fin smith
If England are heading down there thinking it’s going to be a cake walk they are bonkers. I don’t think SB will be allowing by mind set
Always got a chance but they should massively target the first game Vs the All Blacks because the second will be the tallest of orders. I think the All Blacks are going stronger in midfield and the forwards are looking full of pace and power. The NZ back three will be excellent as well. I think it will be 2:0 to All Blacks best case 1:1. Borthwick won’t be able to adjust he’ll play boring kicking game and that won’t be good enough against the All Blacks.
Hearing all the flannel from AB fans that England will get beat by 30 points, dont expect to win series but will give the ABs a decent go. Havent beaten England since 2019, and not put a big score on England since the Hamilton test way back when.
30 points?! More like 40 plus 😉😂
@@mahenocapital5007 just be a typical IWI. Never changes mate
@@Canvashed Mate. You thumbed up your own comment. Typical bloody pom 🤣😂
Reminds me of the SA supporters I spoke to before the semi final last year. SA was going to win by 30.
@@martinluke9470 true
Struggle to name an All Black 15? And you are a rugby commentator. Do you not watch any NZ rugby?
my thoughts exactly
I dont think its impossible for England. Will be hard but it doable. Anyone can beat them, the AB’s has never been untouchable, it was just the narrative
If England can play like they did against both Ireland and France then I'd say they can win down there. As an Irishman I was more impressed by England than I was by the AB's beating us. The ABS deserved it that day but I thought England forwards dominated the Irish more than the AB"s did. Winning the breakdown battle will be crucial.
I am a kiwi All Blacks fan and my only opinion is that England are going to get smashed, goodluck England because you will need it.
‘How often do you have a chance as an England team to go to NZ and think you can beat the All Blacks?’. About the same number of times England soccer think they will win a Tournament.
I love that people think the ABs have ‘lost the aura’ every 10 years or so, and immediately after the ABs were 2 points from a World Cup with 14 men. If that’s losing the aura these guys are delusional.
England can't win anything significant with the bouncing hair @10. To much pumped up air punching not enough line breaking threat.
Of course they can win. But WILL they win is another question altogether. 🙃
langdon is a big ommision, at least he has left daly at home and taken some northhampton back line
Langdon was injured unfortunately in the final
After the years of adversity the ABs have been through to come out of a wc final by 1 point and have English pundits speculating about beating NZ at Eden Park is truly astonishing. I want it to be a close test series but the cockyness is hilarious.
Andy Goode, on the oche lad 😉
Oh they absolutely can. Whether they will is an entirely different question.
This will be probably the rawest, most unsettled and untested All Blacks team in a generation, with rookie coaches and number of single-digit capped players. England by comparison are playing a settled (if uninspired) game based on the core strengths of English rugby, which match neatly against the core weaknesses in the NZ competition.
That said, it's NZ at home, England's past record on tour there is dreadful, several key players are missing or injured, and the lack of attacking ambition they've demonstrated under Borthwick may conspire with the ABs home advantage to limit England's success.
England 2-0 is a bold prediction, either a draw or 2-0 to the AB's
I still don't think Marcus Smith has what it takes to be a world-beating flyhalf.
Can't mix it physically with the best just has no power
How many years now is that being said, truth is on the international stage he has shown very little promise and if he has a bad summer I don’t know where he goes from that. On the wing Fiji flattened him like a bug and so did France …
LOL - yeah - sorry about this one, but he reminds me of Mike Catt when facing Jonah Lomu storming towards him.
Quins did great this year, to get to the semi-final v Toulouse! Marcus played well
He's too dumb, too selfish
What new rugby england want play?
Irish or pacifican?
Ohhh both going not good down under for years?
Where is big jim ?
New Zealand club games are 6 Nations level for intensity. No chance even for Ireland at present. Only France with Dupont and Ntamak could squeeze a draw. NZ 2-0 with points positive of 20 each game
Last time NZ done that to England?? 🤣🤣🤣
French battered kiwi,s last two occasions mate😂😂😂
😮Nonsense its Premiership which has the same intensity!
For MHO, I think both teams have strengths over each other in a few facets, NZ front row is better than Englands (I'm assuming SB is picking Cole Marler and George who are good defensive scrumagers but won't take it to the bigger kiwi 1-3) England have better locks now whitelock has retired, both teams back rows are very strong, coin toss. Weirdly I think England have three better nines than NZ now roigard is injured and smith has retired, BB is a better 10 than the smiths, NZ have bigger stronger centers, both sets of wingers are very good and england might hage the better FB. A few points of difference, Englands domestic comp and the ECC is generally of a better standard and more competitive week on week that SR, the kiwi derbies are always good but there's too many awful Aussie and samoan teams. England have also had five test matches and a longer season to gel. Gonna be close, can't wait
I think Felix is Razors headache 😮
All Blacks will definitely win, in NZ it's a do or die attitude where as England are premadona and are so far off the SH tempo and physical game
23 of the ABs were in last year's RWC Team. I think you are pretty naive if you think you are going to compete with them in NZ. ENG have won about 8 out of 40 tests against NZ. Stats don't look too good. ABs lost the RWC Final by 1 point after some dubious officiating playing one man short for about 60 mins and having 1 try disallowed. My prediction? 2 nil to ABs, 13+ margin in both.
England's weakest link is their flyhalf - with this I am *NOT* saying that Marcus or Farrell is shyte - *H O W E V E R* if you were to mix a hybrid of the 2 styles into 1, *THEN* you'd have a great flyhalf! (I often wonder why England hasn't thought of this before?)
Farrell ain't going - catch up
@@SolarMumuns No shit Sherlock - didn't say he was, did I?
Good to see the arrogant commentators believing England have no chance. They’re certainly not favourites. But NZ team are far too smart to not to take them seriously.
I’d say England Gould manage one out of the three games
3 ?
My XVs:
AB:
1. Ethan De Groot
2. Samisone Tauke’iaho
3. Tyrel Lomax
4. Tupou Vaa’i
5. Scott Barrett
6. Ethan Blackadder
7. Dalton Papali’i
8. Ardie Savea (C)
9. Findlay Christie
10. Damian Mackenzie
11. Sevu Reece
12. Jordie Barrett
13. Reiko Ioane
14. Mark Tele’a
15. Shaun Stevenson
16. Codie Taylor
17. Joe Moody
18. Tamaiti Williams
19. Josh Lord
20. Luke Jacobson
21. Folau Fakatava
22. Beauden Barrett
23. Anton Linert Brown
England:
1. Joe Marler
2. Jamie George (C)
3. Dan Cole
4. Ollie Chessum
5. Maro Itoje
6. Chandler Cunningham South
7. Sam Underhill
8. Ben Earl
9. Ben Spencer
10. Finn Smith
11. Immanuel Feyi-Waboso
12. Henry Slade
13. Ollie Lawrence
14. Tommy Freeman
15. George Furbank
16. Theo Dan
17. Bevan Rodd
18. Will Stuart
19. George Martin
20. Tom Curry
21. Alex Mitchell
22. Marcus Smith
23. Ollie Sleightholme
That’s a horrible AB xv
ollie chessum is injured and personally i'd take fin baxter over bevan rodd. I think that Marcus Smith has to start this test series despite not being the most suited to starting as he is our most experienced 10
@@baconcheeseburger4504 Fin baxter a THP and Bevan Rodd a LHP
1 De groot 2 Codie taylor 3 lomax 4 vaai 5 barret 6 blackladder 7 papali 8 savea 9 tj perenara 10 dmac 11 reece 12 barret 13 rieko 14 telea 15 barret
the flanks is a grey area for me
"No Better time "... ha. We always say that and it's right because we have not lost it yet, but we will. Big strong pack ha ha. The AB pack is way way stronger; they dominated the Boks but Bok offensive defensive undid them, only just. England scrum lineout breakdown will be dominated and players like Furbank and Smith will be trampled and swatted aside if they survive Japan.
Another deluded AB fan 😃The Boks forwards dominated the ABs forwards last year. I mean how many maul tries did the Boks score against the ABs last year🙂 thats all the proof you need🙂
No chance, first game in Dunedin under the roof, so perfect running conditions...England will get carved to shreds !!!
No chance, will struggle with Japan
AB's are very fragile and SR will not delivery as much as people think he will. I hope I am wrong, but I am not sure NZ will be good for a wee while yet.
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N.Z. is just run like headless chickens run,run.Feel England balance team got great chance of dominating.
You're going to have it handed to you pommy boy 😂
@@mahenocapital5007Don't think he's a pommy mate with a name and grammar like that , but I am and we will win 2 test matches over there
@@mahenocapital5007can't you recognise a saffer when you see one bilbo!!
@@adrianoverton7892 All Boks want to be Poms. That was the point I was trying to get across which was obviously lost on Bokky boy. 😉
@@adrianoverton7892northerners still blowing smoke
It should be a tour to develop England youngsters and better players. Yet he’s taking the Curries and other old heads waiting for the next injury. Another golden opportunity missed - as no grounded person expect this England lot to beat NZ away. So the wrong mix for development - and development is key.
Have you looked at the squad? 6 uncapped players.
the series will be 1-1 with Eng winning the 1st test, all these are just talk
England can barely beat Wales and Italy, and lost to Scotland, let alone new zealand 😂
Answer is Noooooooooooooooooo
I think the English pack will boss the All Blacks pack but the All Blacks still score tries even going backwards. Just not sure how many tries are in England. Two maybe three won’t be enough.
I don't know so much. This is going to be a very critical time for the All Blacks, having lost so many of their players. Their new up and coming forwards have been forged at SR level, without the powerful SA and Arg forward packs to compete with, so are not used to having to get their hands dirty in the trenches and with England already showing some improvement with Felix there - see the Ireland game - this could be theirs for the taking.
Razer will be good for the All Blacks but I am just not convinced that they have the players to front up to dominant forward packs and if they don't, I think they will battle. I could be wrong.
Stop it. Pull your head in son. The English pack couldn't boss a six year olds tea party 😂
@@mahenocapital5007 no dad, maybe pull yours out of your arse.
@@mahenocapital5007Well, the bosses Ireland who were a lot of people's favourites for the WC last year...
Have you seen the Super Rugby forward packs? No one is bossing them around anytime soon.
Also keep in mind, bar 3 players from the RWC, the forward pack is literally unchanged, and this is the forward pack that dominated South Africa in the second half of the final with 14 men on the field, while having Jordie Barrett in as a flanker.
England will get battered in both games. They're no match for NZ in NZ.
Absolutely. England are as likely to win in NZ as Ireland are to get passed a QF at a World Cup.
@@christopherdarby1043*get past. Learn the language or you just come across as thick as mince.