Just imagine: Visma with WvA, Laporte in good shape, Van Baarle, the huge twins, the Norwegians, and Tratnik. Yes, the sickness and the crashes depleted their team a lot. I don't think it would have changed the winner, but boy, do I have to stop myself from dreaming of what Roubaix could have been.
That pretty much sounds like the situation we've seen over and over again. WvA relying on the strongest team in a one day race. Just imagine: WvA didn't join the strong Jumbo now VLAB yet he joined a continental team like MvdP did. And MvdP went the other way. I believe MvdP likely would've had more monuments to his name then he already has now. Doubtful of WvA would've had even had Milan-San Remo.
@@Legionarivss Or he would have won less of them, because his teammates would make profit of the fact that they have Mathieu back in the peloton.... Just like we did always see at Quickstep in the past, where it was often guys like Knaven, Chavanel, Terpstra would could profit of the fact that they did have the strongest rider in the race. (Museeuw, Boonen) The strongest guy in the strongest team is not always a guarantee that the captain will win more. ... Other teams will not always go in full chase mode to get back the nr.2 or nr.3 from a certain team, while they have the nr.1 of that specific team sitting back in their wheels.
@00100Matt Fair point. But in my defense, last year was great. It was wrecked by Carrefour, but it was a great edition. So yeah, another version of last year would have been sweet.
@@Legionarivss Winning is very often a function of having a strong team, even for MVDP. A big reason why he got and created such a big gap in Roubaix was because of the work of Vermeersch and Philipsen behind him. Even MVDP would be less successful if not for his super strong teammates. Also, to respond to OP. Wout can follow MVDP, no question. He very well would NOT have been dropped by MVDP at Roubaix at 60km to go and could have followed and won the sprint. If Wout and even just one other strong Visma rider was there and healthy it could have changed the outcome. MVDP was dominant this year, but it was undoubtably because of who WASN'T there as well.
I love when Benji mixes up an English metaphor (slap on the wrist -- pat on the fingers) realizing that English is probably Benji 's third language, and that I wouldn't even be able to speak fluently enough to do a podcast in my first and only language.
@@amandaadams2010A lot of sayings in English make perfect sense if you’re a sailor. Many nautical terms are completely foreign to the non-sailor. Eg; Three sheets to the wind- referring to someone who’s had a bit too much grog - on a headsail, sheets are lines (ropes) that control the shape of the sail. There are only 2 and they typically control the sail on the side away from the wind. So 3 sheets to the wind is really messed up.
Why do you have to wait for a rider to get hurt or potentially end their career before a spectator is held responsible for irresponsible actions? Maybe she bought VIP pass so she could do exactly what she did?? Using VIP as an excuse means nothing.
That Belgian Frau knew exactly what she was doing.. it was a deliberate and sinister flick aimed at damaging a man doing his job. And just because there was no damage done does not mean it’s to be forgotten. Has to be a battery charge laid. It’s like kicking a window cleaners ladder when he on it ffs!!!
Entirely agree. It's funny that in the section about relegations they bemoan the fact that there are no clear rules, and I've heard them before talking about how the outcome of a move shouldn't affect the punishment. And here they're arguing the exact opposite. Ah, well, your little plan to cause a rider to fall on jagged cobbles at 50km per hour didn't work out, so you're free to go. Weird double standard.
HOW? I am appalled also, but nothing happened. We can't prosecute people for something that could have happen if this possibly happened to cause this and then cause that. I blame the media. PERIOD! What happened to the piss-chuckers last year with MVDP? I sure as hell don't know because the media NEVER follows up on things. Had they gotten a fine or probation or jail time and that subsequently been reported, it would act as a deterrent .
Who would have expected that Movistar becomes a better Classics team than Quickstep…? WTF! Can Remco’s GC performance ever even out the team’s loss in Classics performance?
Usually you also have Remco in Classics. He won LBL already twice.Classica San Sebastian 3 times. Was scheduled to do Amstel Gold Race and Fleche Wallone i think prior to his crash. Also you have Merlier being very good at the flat classics. Their overall not bad but in what used to be their Main races they have been bad. Hopefully guys like Lamperti,Magnier can step up in combination with Remco, Merlier and Landa being there aswell.
How many time have I said, “I wish I had seen Merckx at his peak.” Well now I’m seeing MVdP at the peak of his power. No complaints. And another point, 5-6 years ago we all bemoaned Sky dominance, 3 years ago it was the Wolfpack, not months ago the target of criticism was Pogs and his invincibility. Greatness comes and goes. Enjoy it when you see someone or some team master the sport. (Maybe I’m just used to this, being a cyclo-cross fan. The same arguments were being made in winters past.)
It makes me think of Monica Seles getting stabbed on the tennis court. This is no joke. They need to be proactive and not reactive. Zero tolerance otherwise it's only a matter of time before something more serious happens.
I don't think we would like the "proactive" as cycling fans. No other sport allows hundreds or thousands of spectators such close access mid event. The surprise is that this sort of thing does not happen regularly, or maybe it does and we don't get it caught on camera. Just don't know, no stats are kept, just like with rider caused incidents. Shame
@@gearmonger8616 by proactive I mean in terms of educating spectators to GTFO the way and to not touch riders for no reason. And setting standards and expectations along with punishment for spectators involving themselves in the race. Not in terms of closing it down cause obviously that's not realistic
I agree with Patrick, the track is the track, there is no clarification needed. The center is not the track, and there's no confusion possible with the very distinct colour.
On the 'boring' long attacks... In the men's race yesterday the excitement was there but it happened from 100k to 60k to go. In the women's race it was at the finish (and some 10s of km before). I usually don't care if the decision is made on the line, or in some other challenging part of the parcours. Strade, Flanders, and Roubaix all had these great sections, but admittedly they were not near the finish.
there are numerous velodromes where the entire infield is paved. That does not make them part of the 'track', and you certainly couldn't just go to the center and do a lap and a half around a 10 meter circle.
Patrick, as a lawyer you know damn well that their lack of definition of 'the whole track' wouldn't hold up in court ;) I agree that for most people it's obvious that the red isn't part of the track. But if that is not written nor shown, there is no reason why it shouldn't be allowed.
It would because the track is clearly marked. Where he rode is called apron or infield. But they probably used the easiest charge. His move was silly in every way. I could have dived down, taken the sprinters lane, and won from this bunch.
What is it with Visma and punctures whenever they go over the cobbles used in Roubaix. They appear to have ridiculous number of punctures over these cobbles. They had issues on these cobbles when used in TDF as well. MVP appears to be immune to mechanicals at critical junctures in the classics.
I saw a slow mo video of MvdP riding over the Koppenberg. He just pedals and lets the bike go wherever it wants (least resistance). It didn’t even look like he was trying to steer the handlebar. Insane handling skills!
@@shhhshhh7875 yes, he has a very loose grip on the handlebars. It's also why he had no blisters or anything on his hands afterwards, while many other riders did.
Beer throwing is traditional at cross races, to be fair. MVDP probably didn’t care, but he did get into it with offensive hecklers at a couple of crosses this past season. He spit at some guys if I recall. The line for him was the language being used. He started getting hate for his total dominance there too. The “Mathieu makes the races boring” discourse has been going on in cross for the last 7ish years.
funny how you don't hear people complaining abt WVA's dominance. do people throw those traditional beers at WVA as well or is it just the non-belgian guy?
@@sudsehun Cyclocross follower here (Living on the Belgian/Dutch border and owner of both nationalities.)... Yes when van Aert rides in Hoogerheide (Netherlands) he's the target of the Dutch fans... But I would not call it "traditional"'', and my opinion is that all those kind of idiots must be removed... If you are to drunken to know what you do, a cycling race is not the right location... Just stay home or in the pub... ✌
I was outside pub 3km from Kwaremont and I have never seen people so drunk. They were spilling onto road. Got worse by the time the women came through at 50kph. There will be a big accident there one day. You cant talk rationally to people that drunk. One young policeman who was hopeless.
„the track is the track“ comment just shows he is a guy who played in a soccer team as a kid but didn’t join a cycling team. Every road racing kid learns about the track rules. It does not require a special level of intelligence to link P-R with a track finish and to prepare for track rules (see UCI rules) accordingly.
I agree with Benji that the UCI should be more explicit in clarifying the rules for the track in Roubaix, however, I do also believe that it is obvious that the red portion is not a part of the track. FDJ is clearing big budget for Jullian A. coming to the team.
The main difference at SD with last year was that Kopecky was less punchy, and maybe that Reusser had all kinds of issues. Vollering had similar level to last year and Wiebes was stronger. Lidl Trek were also not easily the strongest team at Flanders, Vollering was stronger than Van Android and Wiebes was also there, Longo Borghini was better than Kopecky and that made the difference. The big difference in this race and other races was that a rejuvenated Vos was there as an ally. Balsamo was sprinting well, so definitely improved on last year, but she was not climbing well and to me she looks worse in that respect than two years ago. She got her victories because she always got help or got lcuky, except Brugge de Panne where she was clearly the strongest, but that is flat and Wiebes was not there. Her other big win was Alfredo Binda but clearly Trek are the only big team who take that race seriously. Even in PR she was not necessarily stronger than Wiebes, but she got lucky that things got back together when she was dropped and then Georgi was so kind as to tow her to the front group at the end.
Deciding whether to do a recap of a race based on how good the race was sounds fantastic. Just skip the boring Romandie sprints, but do a full recap if a Sibiu tour stage turns out to be interesting😂
RE: the individual deals, i do think it's maybe a good idea to ban personal decals / helmets / etc., like Van Aert's shinyboy Red Bull Helmet last season. If individual riders want to do commercials outside of the race, nothing wrong with it as far as I'm concerned, but it gets a bit annoying if we end up with a bunch of top riders riding around with all sorts of personal advertising on their helmets or whatever. It's difficult enough for casual viewers to keep track of teams with all the champions jerseys. Let's not end up with a peloton speckled with random Mountain Dew and Walmart and BP oil and Bing and Meta and McDonald's logo's popping up all over the place on top of the team sponsoring.
FDJ offered 1.5M to Martinez, he went for 2.5M. His family has a history of chasing money, favouring cash over career and performance. FDJ's budget has been reduced following Lapierre puling out. Finally, RMC aren't that reliable.
Cycling Maths Class: "Earning four times as much" is unclear. Lenny A earns £20 in one hour. Lenny B earns £80 in two hours. Lenny B earns four times as much, but at only twice the rate 🙂
Like the Dutch fans at Hoogerheide you mean ? Or those Dutch morrons on Alpe d'Huez ? Although calling such people fans is not the word they deserve, no matter the nationality.... MVDP is born in Belgium and never lived somewhere else, and he's probably one of the most liked cyclist in Belgium..... If you want to say it correctly, you should say "A group of sick people who are van Aert fans.".... But I fully agree with you that something has to be done about those morrons...
I'm quite surprised by your flippant attitude towards the woman who clearly threw a cap at MvdP. "He didn't crash, nothing should happen to her"....is a surprising view from a lawyer, as in law a person's intent is what should be measured. You guys were concerned by an increase of bad accidents lately, this could have been another bad accident. If that cap went into his front wheel he's over the bars on cobbles at 50kph.
I don't think Jonas - at this very moment - is somewhere close to top 500. We will have to wait how fast he can recover, it is also not guaranteed that you recover the complete lung capacity after a pneumothorax.
For tour of Flanders people can buy so called VIP tickets, you get access to the beer gardens at the top of the Oude Kwaremont, I also think their are tickets where they are driven around in busses so that you can see the riders multiple times all the while getting more drunk. If you want to watch cycling it's free access(just go to the side of the road where they pass) so it's a way for the organisers to earn some extra money.
French Eurosport says up to 6M over 3 year, 2.5 in his last year alone (less in his 1st and 2nd year), these numbers have been rumoured by other french press too. There's no way he's leaving FDJ for Bahrain for "just" 800k a year. FDJ could match that.
2.5 million is a bit much for a kid who hasn't won sh*t yet, don't you think ? I agree that Lenny does have potential. (He's a fine young climber but he can't race TT's, and has not won any stage or race at World Tour level.).... But to earn 2.5 million or even 2 million a year you must also win races... And than we are not talking about second tier races like Classic Var or Trofeo Laigueglia.
Martinez sign at a fair rate but he should not have signed for three. He should have bet on himself. Locked 2 and gambled for a large pay boost in 2027.
Why is no one talking about the fact that the main climb in olympics is urban polished cobbles? There are 5 guys that can take it, Tom, wout, mvdp, pogi, mads
Just imagine: Visma with WvA, Laporte in good shape, Van Baarle, the huge twins, the Norwegians, and Tratnik. Yes, the sickness and the crashes depleted their team a lot. I don't think it would have changed the winner, but boy, do I have to stop myself from dreaming of what Roubaix could have been.
you're describing last year's race...
That pretty much sounds like the situation we've seen over and over again. WvA relying on the strongest team in a one day race.
Just imagine: WvA didn't join the strong Jumbo now VLAB yet he joined a continental team like MvdP did. And MvdP went the other way.
I believe MvdP likely would've had more monuments to his name then he already has now. Doubtful of WvA would've had even had Milan-San Remo.
@@Legionarivss Or he would have won less of them, because his teammates would make profit of the fact that they have Mathieu back in the peloton.... Just like we did always see at Quickstep in the past, where it was often guys like Knaven, Chavanel, Terpstra would could profit of the fact that they did have the strongest rider in the race. (Museeuw, Boonen)
The strongest guy in the strongest team is not always a guarantee that the captain will win more. ... Other teams will not always go in full chase mode to get back the nr.2 or nr.3 from a certain team, while they have the nr.1 of that specific team sitting back in their wheels.
@00100Matt Fair point. But in my defense, last year was great. It was wrecked by Carrefour, but it was a great edition. So yeah, another version of last year would have been sweet.
@@Legionarivss Winning is very often a function of having a strong team, even for MVDP. A big reason why he got and created such a big gap in Roubaix was because of the work of Vermeersch and Philipsen behind him. Even MVDP would be less successful if not for his super strong teammates. Also, to respond to OP. Wout can follow MVDP, no question. He very well would NOT have been dropped by MVDP at Roubaix at 60km to go and could have followed and won the sprint. If Wout and even just one other strong Visma rider was there and healthy it could have changed the outcome. MVDP was dominant this year, but it was undoubtably because of who WASN'T there as well.
I love when Benji mixes up an English metaphor (slap on the wrist -- pat on the fingers) realizing that English is probably Benji 's third language, and that I wouldn't even be able to speak fluently enough to do a podcast in my first and only language.
And English is also full of things that don't make any sense!
@@amandaadams2010A lot of sayings in English make perfect sense if you’re a sailor. Many nautical terms are completely foreign to the non-sailor. Eg; Three sheets to the wind- referring to someone who’s had a bit too much grog - on a headsail, sheets are lines (ropes) that control the shape of the sail. There are only 2 and they typically control the sail on the side away from the wind. So 3 sheets to the wind is really messed up.
In Dutch/Flemish the equivalent of 'slap on the wrist' is 'tik op de vingers' wgich translates to 'hit/tap(/pat) on the fingers'
Why do you have to wait for a rider to get hurt or potentially end their career before a spectator is held responsible for irresponsible actions? Maybe she bought VIP pass so she could do exactly what she did?? Using VIP as an excuse means nothing.
Maybe she mistook the meaning of the term Chapeau!
That Belgian Frau knew exactly what she was doing.. it was a deliberate and sinister flick aimed at damaging a man doing his job. And just because there was no damage done does not mean it’s to be forgotten. Has to be a battery charge laid. It’s like kicking a window cleaners ladder when he on it ffs!!!
Entirely agree. It's funny that in the section about relegations they bemoan the fact that there are no clear rules, and I've heard them before talking about how the outcome of a move shouldn't affect the punishment. And here they're arguing the exact opposite. Ah, well, your little plan to cause a rider to fall on jagged cobbles at 50km per hour didn't work out, so you're free to go. Weird double standard.
HOW? I am appalled also, but nothing happened. We can't prosecute people for something that could have happen if this possibly happened to cause this and then cause that. I blame the media. PERIOD! What happened to the piss-chuckers last year with MVDP? I sure as hell don't know because the media NEVER follows up on things. Had they gotten a fine or probation or jail time and that subsequently been reported, it would act as a deterrent .
Who would have expected that Movistar becomes a better Classics team than Quickstep…? WTF! Can Remco’s GC performance ever even out the team’s loss in Classics performance?
Usually you also have Remco in Classics. He won LBL already twice.Classica San Sebastian 3 times. Was scheduled to do Amstel Gold Race and Fleche Wallone i think prior to his crash.
Also you have Merlier being very good at the flat classics.
Their overall not bad but in what used to be their Main races they have been bad. Hopefully guys like Lamperti,Magnier can step up in combination with Remco, Merlier and Landa being there aswell.
How many time have I said, “I wish I had seen Merckx at his peak.” Well now I’m seeing MVdP at the peak of his power. No complaints. And another point, 5-6 years ago we all bemoaned Sky dominance, 3 years ago it was the Wolfpack, not months ago the target of criticism was Pogs and his invincibility. Greatness comes and goes. Enjoy it when you see someone or some team master the sport. (Maybe I’m just used to this, being a cyclo-cross fan. The same arguments were being made in winters past.)
The beer thowers in Belgium will actually be charged with battery. Whether something will come from that is another question of course.
6:16 lovely pup
It makes me think of Monica Seles getting stabbed on the tennis court. This is no joke. They need to be proactive and not reactive. Zero tolerance otherwise it's only a matter of time before something more serious happens.
I don't think we would like the "proactive" as cycling fans. No other sport allows hundreds or thousands of spectators such close access mid event. The surprise is that this sort of thing does not happen regularly, or maybe it does and we don't get it caught on camera. Just don't know, no stats are kept, just like with rider caused incidents. Shame
@@gearmonger8616 by proactive I mean in terms of educating spectators to GTFO the way and to not touch riders for no reason. And setting standards and expectations along with punishment for spectators involving themselves in the race. Not in terms of closing it down cause obviously that's not realistic
TOTALLY agree! That and we need the Spanish National Police at every race, authority!
I love this format, thank you guys for a great podcast. ❤
I agree with Patrick, the track is the track, there is no clarification needed. The center is not the track, and there's no confusion possible with the very distinct colour.
On the 'boring' long attacks... In the men's race yesterday the excitement was there but it happened from 100k to 60k to go. In the women's race it was at the finish (and some 10s of km before).
I usually don't care if the decision is made on the line, or in some other challenging part of the parcours.
Strade, Flanders, and Roubaix all had these great sections, but admittedly they were not near the finish.
Idk strade looked like a zone 3 pogi training shesh
Great for mentioning Mihkels. 10. place. He got 2 punctures, so lot of chasing.
there are numerous velodromes where the entire infield is paved. That does not make them part of the 'track', and you certainly couldn't just go to the center and do a lap and a half around a 10 meter circle.
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As soon as I saw that guy do that I was sure he'd be relegated
Patrick, as a lawyer you know damn well that their lack of definition of 'the whole track' wouldn't hold up in court ;)
I agree that for most people it's obvious that the red isn't part of the track. But if that is not written nor shown, there is no reason why it shouldn't be allowed.
It would because the track is clearly marked. Where he rode is called apron or infield. But they probably used the easiest charge. His move was silly in every way. I could have dived down, taken the sprinters lane, and won from this bunch.
but Pollit made it far to easy for him to pass on the inside
Thank you
What is it with Visma and punctures whenever they go over the cobbles used in Roubaix. They appear to have ridiculous number of punctures over these cobbles. They had issues on these cobbles when used in TDF as well. MVP appears to be immune to mechanicals at critical junctures in the classics.
I saw a slow mo video of MvdP riding over the Koppenberg. He just pedals and lets the bike go wherever it wants (least resistance). It didn’t even look like he was trying to steer the handlebar. Insane handling skills!
@@shhhshhh7875 yes, he has a very loose grip on the handlebars. It's also why he had no blisters or anything on his hands afterwards, while many other riders did.
**"Sometimes, the best result is when you don't ride for the victory"** - Benji Naesen, 2024
Beer throwing is traditional at cross races, to be fair. MVDP probably didn’t care, but he did get into it with offensive hecklers at a couple of crosses this past season. He spit at some guys if I recall. The line for him was the language being used. He started getting hate for his total dominance there too. The “Mathieu makes the races boring” discourse has been going on in cross for the last 7ish years.
funny how you don't hear people complaining abt WVA's dominance. do people throw those traditional beers at WVA as well or is it just the non-belgian guy?
Ah the traditional beer throwing ceremony, who could forget
Imagine saying "Tiger makes the tournaments boring" in 2003 about Tiger Woods in the PGA Tour.
@@sudsehun Cyclocross follower here (Living on the Belgian/Dutch border and owner of both nationalities.)... Yes when van Aert rides in Hoogerheide (Netherlands) he's the target of the Dutch fans... But I would not call it "traditional"'', and my opinion is that all those kind of idiots must be removed... If you are to drunken to know what you do, a cycling race is not the right location... Just stay home or in the pub... ✌
Moskesstraat is more than 0.5 km 5%. Average 9%, with steepest section over 15% on cobbles
I was outside pub 3km from Kwaremont and I have never seen people so drunk. They were spilling onto road. Got worse by the time the women came through at 50kph. There will be a big accident there one day. You cant talk rationally to people that drunk. One young policeman who was hopeless.
„the track is the track“ comment just shows he is a guy who played in a soccer team as a kid but didn’t join a cycling team. Every road racing kid learns about the track rules. It does not require a special level of intelligence to link P-R with a track finish and to prepare for track rules (see UCI rules) accordingly.
I agree with Benji that the UCI should be more explicit in clarifying the rules for the track in Roubaix, however, I do also believe that it is obvious that the red portion is not a part of the track.
FDJ is clearing big budget for Jullian A. coming to the team.
Is this like christmas or sth? Another podcast now and 1:30h? Happy to watch tomorrow
The main difference at SD with last year was that Kopecky was less punchy, and maybe that Reusser had all kinds of issues. Vollering had similar level to last year and Wiebes was stronger. Lidl Trek were also not easily the strongest team at Flanders, Vollering was stronger than Van Android and Wiebes was also there, Longo Borghini was better than Kopecky and that made the difference. The big difference in this race and other races was that a rejuvenated Vos was there as an ally.
Balsamo was sprinting well, so definitely improved on last year, but she was not climbing well and to me she looks worse in that respect than two years ago. She got her victories because she always got help or got lcuky, except Brugge de Panne where she was clearly the strongest, but that is flat and Wiebes was not there. Her other big win was Alfredo Binda but clearly Trek are the only big team who take that race seriously. Even in PR she was not necessarily stronger than Wiebes, but she got lucky that things got back together when she was dropped and then Georgi was so kind as to tow her to the front group at the end.
Deciding whether to do a recap of a race based on how good the race was sounds fantastic. Just skip the boring Romandie sprints, but do a full recap if a Sibiu tour stage turns out to be interesting😂
What's up with Asgren
RE: the individual deals, i do think it's maybe a good idea to ban personal decals / helmets / etc., like Van Aert's shinyboy Red Bull Helmet last season. If individual riders want to do commercials outside of the race, nothing wrong with it as far as I'm concerned, but it gets a bit annoying if we end up with a bunch of top riders riding around with all sorts of personal advertising on their helmets or whatever. It's difficult enough for casual viewers to keep track of teams with all the champions jerseys. Let's not end up with a peloton speckled with random Mountain Dew and Walmart and BP oil and Bing and Meta and McDonald's logo's popping up all over the place on top of the team sponsoring.
The track is the track. The infield is not the track.
FDJ offered 1.5M to Martinez, he went for 2.5M. His family has a history of chasing money, favouring cash over career and performance. FDJ's budget has been reduced following Lapierre puling out. Finally, RMC aren't that reliable.
Cycling Maths Class: "Earning four times as much" is unclear.
Lenny A earns £20 in one hour. Lenny B earns £80 in two hours.
Lenny B earns four times as much, but at only twice the rate 🙂
hats off to you guys though, also, piss and belgian beer - indistinguishable
You and i have a problem
@@BenjiNaesenTV i know, 11-34 still sucks for us
Of all the countries you could say this about, Belgium is probably the last on the list!
Heineken is from the Netherlands bruv
@@sambosmans3473 Heineken is Dutch, Carlsberg is from Danmark. 😉
its not 'few rotten apples'. its 'few rotten belgian apples' that are harassing mvdp. belgium should take responsibility and do something abt it.
Like the Dutch fans at Hoogerheide you mean ? Or those Dutch morrons on Alpe d'Huez ? Although calling such people fans is not the word they deserve, no matter the nationality....
MVDP is born in Belgium and never lived somewhere else, and he's probably one of the most liked cyclist in Belgium.....
If you want to say it correctly, you should say "A group of sick people who are van Aert fans."....
But I fully agree with you that something has to be done about those morrons...
I'm quite surprised by your flippant attitude towards the woman who clearly threw a cap at MvdP.
"He didn't crash, nothing should happen to her"....is a surprising view from a lawyer, as in law a person's intent is what should be measured.
You guys were concerned by an increase of bad accidents lately, this could have been another bad accident. If that cap went into his front wheel he's over the bars on cobbles at 50kph.
LR now saying advocate of the devil as well😂😂
She threw the hat to try to stop him winning! She needs to be prosecuted to stop others from doing the same!
Does that make sense?
Agreed, SD-Work and Lidl Trek were the only "teams" I can remember doing things this year. Vos, Puck, individual.
I don't think Jonas - at this very moment - is somewhere close to top 500. We will have to wait how fast he can recover, it is also not guaranteed that you recover the complete lung capacity after a pneumothorax.
THis women should be prosecuted, that was clearly atttempted assault, is there really the outcome needed?? a horrible crash???
I'm really bad at math...but for me 2.5m per year over 4 years does not make 800k per year. Closer to 600,025k.
3 years
@@LanterneRougeCyclingPodcast I appear to have "dyslexic hearing"....or I'm just tooo old....😊
That’s not how salary caps work. NBA teams have a cap. MJ still has deals with Nike.
Cycling has its own rules, which usually involve the riders not getting much lol
Theres no chance Martinez went for 800k.
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Hahaha Team Sunweb is from 2020.
Can someone explain to a North American wtf it means to be a VIP at a bike race??
For tour of Flanders people can buy so called VIP tickets, you get access to the beer gardens at the top of the Oude Kwaremont, I also think their are tickets where they are driven around in busses so that you can see the riders multiple times all the while getting more drunk. If you want to watch cycling it's free access(just go to the side of the road where they pass) so it's a way for the organisers to earn some extra money.
French Eurosport says up to 6M over 3 year, 2.5 in his last year alone (less in his 1st and 2nd year), these numbers have been rumoured by other french press too. There's no way he's leaving FDJ for Bahrain for "just" 800k a year. FDJ could match that.
2.5 million is a bit much for a kid who hasn't won sh*t yet, don't you think ?
I agree that Lenny does have potential. (He's a fine young climber but he can't race TT's, and has not won any stage or race at World Tour level.).... But to earn 2.5 million or even 2 million a year you must also win races... And than we are not talking about second tier races like Classic Var or Trofeo Laigueglia.
MVDP is not doing Giro, not decided yet on Tour, doeners if he wants to do MTB as well at Olympics.
How is it possible that Jorgenson is winning classics and Stage races at the same time? IS he like Pogacar? Because he looks more like a climber?
He's quite tall for a GC guy.
Martinez sign at a fair rate but he should not have signed for three. He should have bet on himself. Locked 2 and gambled for a large pay boost in 2027.
Is Victor Lafay dead? AG2R payed him a million billion dollars and he hasn’t raced a single time this season
Martinez is going for 2.5M not 800k
Kopecky 'Coward'? Honestly? Isn't Vos (all the respect to her) riding for Visma LAB? I would have expected a more unbiased comment.
Why is no one talking about the fact that the main climb in olympics is urban polished cobbles?
There are 5 guys that can take it, Tom, wout, mvdp, pogi, mads
Dude Mvdp and alp is team sky Classic style. It’s not exactly exciting
Your predictions for Flanders and Roubaix were disingenuous and poor
Disingenuous? How so?