Clay Comparison: Polymer vs Cold Porcelain
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2015
- In this video I compare the difference between homemade cold porcelain to a few different kinds of polymer clay- Premo, Fimo and Sculpey.
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Something to mention is CP clay when mixed properly can have a near glass like finish when dried and is significantly easier to smooth than sculpey for certain projects. Sculpey tends to need oil or alcohol for smoothing and it pick up finger prints fairly easily. CP on the other hand is water and can be smoothed by hand and then self levels. The finish I've gotten on some projects is so ridiculously good its hard to believe its a homemade clay.
Could you share your recipe for homemade CP please
Thank you for reassuring me on this- I have decuided to make my own porcelain and stop using all toxic materials.
@@rhythmic_seed Yes! Please share your recipe!
For all those young crafters having trouble with hard, crumbly clay. You can use baby oil. It doesn't effect the clay what so ever when baking plus it helps soften the clay. Works better and A LOT CHEAPER from clay softer. ;)
yes, add a couple drops of oil...also pressure helps bring crumbling clay together. Just press down hard with a clean glass bottle.
Or, you could just buy clay conditioner from sculpey.
@@heatherrowles2580 that is what she was saying. Use oil instead because it is cheaper
The fastest way to condition polymer clay, sit on it. When I buy it I sit on the packs on the way home in the car. It is ready the minute I get home. If I am already at home I sit on them for a few minutes before I start, also never put in a window of the car. I had a clay face turn into a burn victim.
Lori Strout 😂😂😂😂
Why did this make me laugh soo much?!.. ahahah😂😂
That's exactly what I do.
Use a heating pad to soften it up.
Lori Strout, I don’t understand the burn victim theory lol. If anything, Clay gets much softer in the sun. I’ve done tons of craft shows in hot summers and my creations get really soft so I have to put a bunch of ice packs hidden under my items to prevent them from getting too soft.
Thank you! It's sooo helpful to know the pros & cons - beforehand. You'd make an awesome elementary school art teacher and summer camp art instructor.
Thanks!! ❤️
This video was exactly what I needed! I was thinking about making some DIY jewelry with clay and I didn't know which one would be better. Now, I think this cold porcelain will do just fine!
I also like the playing card idea. To help avoid cracks in the polymer clay don't expose it to room temperature immediately. Leave it in the oven and open the oven door in stages so that the clay cools down slowly.
THE CARD TECHNIQUE IS AMAZING! THANK YOU!
That's how translucent polymer clay is. It has inclusions after baking when it's thick. It's meant for very thin sheets
This was the best video EVER on this. Thank you so much for being clear precise, & showing great comparisons
I have extensively used both home made cold porcelain clay (many different recipes including obviously the most popular ones) and polymer clay. Polymer clay out performs cold porcelain 3x over. I’ve never had my polymer clay turn out with those weird bubbles or marks yours have. You got a bad batch or did something wrong. I highly recommend you buy “super sculpey” it’s a flesh tone and is more soft like bubblegum when kneaded and warmed and is most similar to cold porcelain so you are likely to like it more. It’s also much harder and durable. I personally prefer super sculpey medium which is much harder and I suspect you would not like :)
Thanks for the playing card trick, great idea!
You're welcome! :)
Victoria Anne popsicle sticks are easier
Rubber bands work really well too and don't slide around like cards or Popsicle sticks.
No Thanks Forgive me if i am wrong or if there is a special technic that corrects this issue, but wouldnt it be a bit hard to get and/or keep an even thickness with using rubber bands? i truly want to know, its not a question asked in doubt i swear. thank you:)
I really want to get into crafting with clay. This was really helpful or seeing a few options. I've also been really curious about cold porcelain. Thank you!
+Manda Alvarado You're welcome, I'm glad this video was helpful! :)
Hi could u also please do a video comparison between cooked cold porcelain n non cooked cold porcelain.. Please.
Love your scientific approach. This really helps! Thanks!
Best comparison I’ve seen👍🏼
Nice comparison video, i learnt a lot.
Ps: Your eyebrows are so lovely! And you are so pretty!
Also, try the no-cook version of cold porcelain! It does not shrink as much! 😊
+Alyssa Kenny Huh, interesting! I would have thought that the cooked version would shrink less, since by cooking it you remove a lot of the excess moisture, which is what causes the clay to shrink when it dries in the first place. I'll have to make some no-cook cold porcelain and compare it, that sounds like a fun experiment! :)
That was so helpful! Thank you so much! I just subscribed and I look forward to watching many more of your videos.
You are the answer of all of my diy questions thank you ❤👑
This was so helpful! I love sculpey but I think I will try cold porcelain too :)
+Jovana Djokovic Yay, I'm happy to see that it was helpful to you! :) Cold porcelain is definitely my favorite at the moment, but sculpey has a special place in my heart too~
chezlin sculpey is a begginers clay and shouldn't be considered when making a worth while sculpture.
great video...which one was the easiest to break?a comparison of the hardness of the material
lovely comparison. really helped answer some of my questions. I was wondering if you, or anyone could tell me what the difference is between air dry clays like cold porcelain, crayola air dry clay (not model magic.) and eraser clay as well as modeling clay and or model magic? i hope that made sense. i am just confused between. the difference of some of those brands and clays.
Love your video. Will you try to make flowers about 2" or so. Lily, roses, peony. I want to make a couple of lilies and roses and it would be wonderful to see it done. I'm going to be using the cold porcelain clay. Thank you so much.
Could you do a comparison video using molds with the same types of clay you used in your video? I'm having issues using homemade porcelain in molds and would like to know what you think.
Love the kitty helper in the video!!!! TFS! I need all the clay help I can get.
Haha, thanks! :)
You give a very good demonstration.
Was wondering how this works with making flowers. What type of paint would you use to make these for the top of a cake for instance? Obviously it would have to be non toxic but could you use a cake coloring base to get the same effect? Thanks in advance
Very useful video. Thanks for the comparisons. I'll try your cold porcelain clay next - Polymer clay is very expensive in Australia! You have another subscriber.
Premo needs a lot more conditioning than Sculpey. And Fimo needs more than Sculpay as well. The easiest way for me to condition is to roll in snakes, flatten with a roller, form a ball, and then repeat the process until smooth.
Pasta Machine is the best method to condition Premo though.
Cracking may occur when Polymer Clay hasn't been conditioned well enough ;)
Bubbles may occur more when not well conditioned or when two pieces have been put together with air trapped in them.
Baking may have something to do with cracking as well.
I see! Thanks for the info and tips! :)
Thanks for the comparison work- I have worked with Sculpey and like it quite a bit. I have seen a vid of Sculpey and Fimo being mixed and smoothed by putting it through a pasta machine. Which of course also makes it a consistent thickness. I haven't done this yet! This vid answered my questions about the various products very well. One question is how long does the cold porcelain take to dry thoroughly?
+Laura Pope Thank you! I'm glad you found this video helpful :) It depends on how thick the piece is, of course... I've found that pieces around 1/2inch thick take about 24 hours.
Thank you for doing a comparison!!
+Ruelen Sarion You're welcome! I hope it was helpful! :)
Hi Good video for my big confusion, when i was confused why to make cold Porcelain clay. your video helped me. Big thanks sisy.
Thanks for the information! Love your fur boss in the background supervising! LOL
Great video Thanks! Is cold porcelain solid enough for jewelry making? Does it break easily?
Fantastic video. Very educational. I got a quick question though: are all sorts air-dry clay cold porcelain, or is cold porcelain really just one specific type of clay? Thank you. 🙂
Excellent presentation! I loved your video, is very helpful as I am knew to this type of craft. Thank you !!
Thank you! And you're welcome :)
Cold porcelain is more eco-friendly 🌿
Thanks, this is so helpful!! I will try it
Hi which types of clay would you use for making diffusing jewellery?
Where can we buy cold porcelain and what brand do you recommend? Thanks, and great tutorial. Loly
premo is the best clay, I use it all the time u should always check the firmness it should have a little give. if not it's not a fresh pack of clay
Seasonal Frostbite, Great info/advice! Thank you darlin'! 🤗😁
Also, if it is too crumbly, then adding a little vegetable oil will soften it up.
what kind of glaze can we use for cold porcelain or air dry clay
thanks! straightforward and super helpful!
Itaa Cesar this is not straightforward... it's a bias video because she knows nothing about polymer clay. and what she had with the premo was a bad batch. it's basically the best to use and polymer clay is wonderful! please do more research before making up your mind.
I have never used cold porcelain but always used polymer and I use a lot of transparent polymer and colour it after with pastels or eyeshadow and I have never seen it look like that after it is baked. Not sure how and why it came to look like that. It usually comes out very smooth and with a translucent like alabaster.
Finding it hard to believe you have tried many brands and used many times and have never heard of, or come across “mooning”. Sorry, but I think you’re full of it.
@@Rezd-Out Ok troll ;)
Do you have a tutorial for the cold porcelain?
I NEVER knew polymer clay was flexible!!! Wow, very informative!!
Thank you I love your videos , I do have one question, I made the cold porcelain clay as you have shown .But I have notice that some of the items seem to twist and turn not staying flat ,no matter what thickness I do. How can I stop that from happening ?
Please can anyone help?
Keep up your videos they are truly helpful.......thanks
I've had success with making sure it doesn't dry out too quickly (if one side dries out quicker than it shrinks and warps that side, and can cause cracks). Just make sure it's not sitting in a really drafty part of your house. And I like to periodically flip the piece around so the part that's in contact with the table can get some air too so it hopefully helps it dry out at the same rate all over.
Thank you for doing this comparison
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Great video! Thank you for all the helpful information!
Thank you, and you're welcome!
What is a good SEALER for the Cold Porcelian Clay? (( It is my favorite to work with ))
I would like to know this as well :)
I never knew about cold porcelain until today! :O So cool. I can't wait to try working with it ^.^
the translucent polymer clays usually tend to "moon". Because polymer clays are plastic based, when the oil from your fingers mix into the clay, it leaves off the oil marks after baking. But because cold porcelain is water based, the water would "reflect" the oils, so it can't moon in the clay.
may I ask if cold porcelain clay is sturdy? for small decors?
Have you tried toner on your hands for removing the color?
Can't wait to make and create!
Also one more thing the cp is very good to work with u should try doing a Video on cornstarch dough it's really good
+Mikalah Stewart I'll look into that, thanks for the suggestion! :)
can you use cold porcelain to make on a jar for fairy home ?
how long does it take for cold porcelain clay to dry?
Chezlin i too bought the same exact Preom Clay and yup it was horrid same as Ur's and no it's not supposed to be that hard and crumbly, we both got a bunk pack, I made fimo, and super Sculpey my go-to Sculpey 3 is juz to soft for fine details and sticky and them blotches is just plaque, but want it to hear and watch what you had to say bout this cold porcelain my first time I hear of this
Very informative. Just what I was looking for. Thanks.
+Denise Magnet You're welcome! I'm glad you found the video helpful :D
This was a great video! I have wanted to know this info, for awhile now; as I am seriously considering getting back into a hobby w arts & crafts, namely sculpting & painting. Lovely kitcat by the way; I LOVE cats, but am especially partial to black cats w green eyes, or grey cats.
what type of paint did you use for polymer clay?
Hi there loved your video,,, can you tell me,,, please,, what is the best waterproof durable clay to use,,, I want to make outdoor ornaments, and also what clay can stick to wood or what glue can i use to make that happen, thank you in advance
I'm not really a big expert on clay or anything, but polymer clay would probably work for what you want. As for glue, I would suggest 2 part epoxy or E6000. You can also use the website " thistothat.com/ " to figure out other kinds of glue you can use. :)
Thank you, good information and a useful video.
Yeah, I made some! It works great!
Thanks. That was very informational and helpful.
+Michelle Trahan Usher You're welcome! :) Thanks for checking it out!
Good to know. Thanks 🐞
You got a bad batch of Premo. Premo is normally very soft.
I totally agree. My favorite is definitely Kato Clay, but Sculpey although the softest, will break so easily. Your project will be destroyed unless you’re just making beads and the color after baking is terrible, not true, darker and just plain icky. It’s great for kids though. For the best details and bright true colors, it’s got to be Kato or Fimo, but if you have arthritis like me or painful hands, forget Fimo. These are predominately not translucent clays unless you buy the translucent blocks. The colors are gorgeous after baking. I have my hubby sit on all brands of poly clay to heat them up but Fimo is still hard and terribly crumbly after! So it depends on cost, the ability to work with the Clay and if you want already colored blocks (polymer clay) or translucent (cold porcelain). Try Fimo Soft or Fimo Kids and you might be pleasantly surprised 😉🙌🏻💕 Thank You for your videos! I hope my hands and I love cold porcelain!
Can we make dolls with this clay and is it possible to make smooth dolls like we make with polymer clay? Can this be baked like polymer clay? Actually I use polymer clay to sclupt but to tell you the truth I am looking for an alternative. So please tell me about this clay. I have worked with other clays but not with this. What colours do you use to give it colours? Can Acrylic colours be used
fimo and premo and used in professional jewelry. def needs some softener. i used petroleum jelly. i have softener as well.
I love your kitty!!!
Fimo is hard work premo is great but I do love Cold porcelain best I’ve just made a huge batch to make flowers. There is another one called Artista soft but it doesn’t have that long a shelf life but great to use either way it’s all fun with the exception of Fimo.
before buying polymer clay you should pinch it to see how soft it is if its not soft get a different batch
Yeah, that's a good tip :) Thanks!
I always do that
Not only this but also for Premo, Sculpey, and Craftsmart, you can check the date the clay was made. There is a series of numbers printed on the side of package that tells you the date.
The bubbles are probably from over baking, because I've only ever had that happen with thin segments of complex pieces that also have thicker segments which necessitate longer baking times. You can work around this problem by constructing armatures to build the clay onto, keeping the thickness more even overall. Aluminum foil crumpled into a basic form works great for this, but wire and even wood like dowels or popsicle sticks will work, too. The curing temps for polymer clays are not high enough that the wood will burn.
Thanks for the tips! I've done the aluminum foil and wire armature before with great results :)
I have been in 3 different stores and no help 🥺🤦🏽 I want to know what to use to protect my clay pieces because I put it on coffee ☕ mugs, so they can be washable, I can use resin, but it's messy to work with, mod podge takes forever to dry (1 month) do you know what I can use? Like a spray? Thank you
Excellent video! Thanks!
subscribed because of the cat at the end... great video btw :)
Great video and with information that helped and you have a beautiful cat and just like my cat Hunter x
You can bake it also but more like paper mache clay at a low temperature. I used the rules from the paper mache clay website and omg its awesome and not flammable (not easily anyway) the recipe I used was Creative Cats recipe. Oil I used was baby oil since I used vinegar for my anti mold etc ingredient. She says there are options but thats the way I did it and it was awesome. Not sure if baking it helped it become fire resistant or it just was naturally that way anyway? No bubbles or cracks if low for short times. I tested a batch that lasted 8 months maybe longer but thats when I found it and used it. Kept mine in a ziplock bag with the air sucked out. The baby oil neutralized vinegar sent smelled quite pleasant.
Can't get enough of your cat
Thank you this was very useful. The main question I have is if I were to make a cup out of cold porcelain, would it be usable to drink my hot tea or coffee?
Nop. It isn't water proof.
I love your channel it's awesome.
I work with polymer clay and i think you should roll it, fold it back, roll it, fold it back and again and again at least five times. This process eliminates air bubbles. Also after baking you have to put the polymer into ice watter. After that is polymer clay more transluscent.
I don't know if you did this, because my english is not so good and sometimes i miss something. ;-)
Btw i use PREMO and i've never had such a problem with it, my premo is soft and smooth. That's weird.
+Jana Krapfova Thank you! I'm glad you're enjoying my videos :D
Thanks for the polymer clay tips. I usually just knead it with my fingers for a while to try to get the air bubbles out, but I should probably fold it over and roll it a few times like you're suggesting :)
I never put my stuff in water after I just let it.. and I dont think you can over cook it as long as the temp is not too high becssue some time i'll make stuff that i need to be hard so i can keep handling without it loosing it shape..
+chezlin The process jana is talking about its called wedging, it a necessary step for most if not all types of clay.
Jana Krapfova how to make polymer clay
To be honest... I have no idea how to make polymer clay :)
Porcelain clay is water resistant or not ?
for the cold porcelain shrinkage .. when prepare it do not cook it or microwave just use your hand .. did you try it ?
Yeah. That bubbling and crackling pattern on the translucent clay happened to me too.
Hm, I wonder why! I think my top theory is that I simply overcooked it.
Thank you. It was very useful info
super informative! thanks
Someone, please tell me if I can use UV resin on the cold porcelain clay
my school art teacher taught us that thing you did with the playing cards except he used wood planks or something cut small so he could use them with the younger children. When you used the playing cards I remembered that i didnt need to go out and buy wood planks for the project i was doing. Thanks for the great idea!
+Hannah K Cool! It's really a great technique for getting a consistent thickness for the clay. Using cards is particularly nice because you can increase or decrease the thickness really, really easily by just adding or removing cards :)
Please, can you make something unbreakable and shiny with any of these materials?
Is air dry polymer clay same as cold porcelain?
what is your recipe for porcelain clay? there are so many!!!!!! am an artist teaching crafts to older adults, some have memory issues or had strokes, so I want an easy to make and use product over Sculpey which is too expensive. you must have purchased some old Premo, it is a different product but gives a stronger surface to carve. thanks!!
this heeeeeeelpssss a loooooootttt.... thaaaaank youu so muchhhh!
Yay, I'm glad it was helpful!! :D
Hats off to you, ur vids and ur voice... 😘😘😘
+Muning Maceda haha, thanks!
Thank you for this video!
one query that I am scared to dry, has anyone tried to bake/heat a cold porcelain item like the rest? does it catch fire or burn off?
Do not try to bake cold porcelain. It's an air drying clay. It will most likely catch on fire if you try to bake it.
hi, maybe you could make another video showing the difference when you want to make detailed work. in my experience cp will not hold detail as well as pc but is stronger for thin work like flowers and nice if you want soft puffy looking things. It is also good to make a strong base to build other types of air dry clay on which are more expensive but take fine detail better, if you want to make a head and face for example.
+angelicatoo I might! That's a good idea :)
+chezlin actually I just remembered that a few years ago I used cold porcelain to build 'bones' for a polymer clay doll which made the limbs stronger and easier to model.
Thanks Chezlin.
Great Video!!