I can’t believe it. It’s like mfing black magic, I swear to god. Never experienced anything like this. Felt like an hour-long episode. I was certain it was going to go to credits after the this scene, but the Sally/Moss/Cousineau scenes were still left.
@@Legomax18 that’s exactly how I felt about the opening episode too. Didn’t expect Barry to just dive right into the absolute shit show that Barry has caused.
Everyone was saying this episode had no jokes in it, but like you pointed out there's this gag with the knife, and there's also the conversation with the detective and the police chief when they're talking about Albert. Detective- "has anyone heard from Albert?" (Something to that effect) Chief- no we haven't seen him since he talked to fuches, then came out and cocked his gun in front of us. He's probably out seeing the sites. Wish he'd take me with him" It's a super subtle joke, but I thought it was hilarious. How is the police chief such a buffoon 😂😂
I love how he doesn't understand the knife came from BEHIND. He's in shock, and only understands he can't see through his left eye anymore, assuming she put something in from the front.
The only other movie to do a scene like this is book of Eli when Eli chops a dudes hand off he’s in shock talking bout his hand and stops fighting cause of all the shock
I love the awkward realism in the action of this show. Goran loosely waving the gun around before he dies from a headshot, untrained characters missing shots, the extras when the shooting happens at the car shop. In this scene, it’s how the biker reacts to the knife through the back of his head. He just starts cursing and sits down on his phone trying to see what even happened. Stuff like that makes the action in Barry so much more unique.
I love how they sort of de-mythologize tv violence. Real violence is awkward, and most people aren't that good at it. It's my favorite element of the show.
It also adds an element of emotional investment while I was watching this I was thinking about how I’d be just as mad as her it’s like mf don’t you dare sit down acting all hurt after you almost crushed my windpipe it makes her anger more impactful and relatable as a character and alil funny
I love how this scene is the polar opposite of the Noho Hank scene but both show aspects of brutality and violence. In this one, the sound cuts out and you only see Sally's actions through the booth's window, but in the Noho Hank scene, you don't see anything but just hear the mauling, flesh being sliced and the screams of agony. Just brilliant.
Barry trying to persuade her that she didn't kill the man and taking full responsability for it is the most weirdest yet beautiful proof that he truly loves Sally and don't want her to endure the pain and the guilt he's inflict to himself since the beginning of the show. The series is a masterpiece of writing since it has begun but Season 3 brings it to a whole another level.
Idk I always felt like Barry always saw Sally as an idea of some perfect woman and not who she really is and him doing this is just a last resort to save the version of her he’s built up in his head (exactly how he gets himself arrested by doing the same for Gene). Maybe he actually convinced himself that he loves her by doing this because all season she said I love you and he never said it back but the at the end of the episode it’s reversed. I’m still not convinced Barry loves Sally in all her fucked up glory because he treats her like a wounded bird and it seems like he’s always overlooked her red flags unless he’s in the middle of losing his shit
I think that’s more true for the first season, when he was fantasizing about a life with her even though she was only friendly to him. I think the two of them have genuinely gotten used to one another, which is partly why Sally wasn’t going to do anything at first after Barry yelled at her. Maybe Barry does still put Sally on a pedestal, but I think they’re just both traumatically damaged and complicated people and they do genuinely care about one another.
In the podcast about the show Hader says that he actually does love both Sally and Mr. Cousineau, but they don't really love him back, because he's a psychopathic murdering monster. It's a fucked up, sad, but also kind of hilarious dynamic.
@@SQOUREE Meh, the "victim finds a weapon at the very last moment" shtick is cliched as hell too. And the probability that anyone would luckily find a weapon in such a situation is really low. Barry saving her would have at least been plausible.
@@Trebor6127 barry hears a noise in the apartment, grabs a knife and holds in up through the doorway before realizing it’s sally and drops his knife and that’s when she takes him up on his offer and the title card pops up. the knife he drops if what she uses
This show is so incredibly well written because you can clearly see that when Sally was hitting that guy to death she was thinking about her abusive ex. It's the PTSD acting.
I'd argue the lack of morality here is sort of the point vs. Sally's dramatic bullshitting, moralizing and mythologizing (you might have forgotten somewhat) in Season 2. Her husband was a mediocre nothing and his abuse was an expression of his boorishness. Entire cultures (like Russia) have men who "abuse" this way (and throughout history, for sure,) the women would certainly say it sucks, but then likely laugh at the notion they have PTSD from their moron husband's pitiful tirades and outbursts. Sally's beating him like the ape from "2001," no God or value system or mythic redemption or arc in the room.
@@gibberconfirm166nope, the point is definitely unresolved trauma/PTSD, which affect many characters, but primarily sally and Barry, for sally, she was abused when she was 19, which 100% changed her brain, likely influencing to become narcacisstic…I mean, to her she had no control, couldn’t stand up, she was a nobody and than she famous. That must be hard to actually see how fucked up she is. With Barry, he suffered from PTSD in the military, and upon being discharged, he was manipulated and further molded into a true violent character. Each kill made it easier for him, normalized it etc. it’s all about unresolved trauma, and how not focusing on how you internal feel will influence every decision you make. Barry has been trying to stop killing people, but you notice he doesn’t ever try to solve his trauma from all his killings, or his rage issues.
@@gibberconfirm166and referencing Russia is a little disingenuous, while russian women may laugh at the idea, that’s largely because the culture doesn’t recognize domestic abuse (not even legally), leading to a much harder time recognize the consequences or trauma from abuse. Russia is actually interesting, cause never once have they ever had a government or leader that actually cared about the people. The people have always paid, and there’s psychological theories that this has led to russians Conscienceness being very different from the west. Abuse affects them the same, but they way they deal with it, or ignore it is not comprehendable to the west. In Russia, you have no choice but to let the trauma grow and affect you.
@@gibberconfirm166 True. Same in Turkey. Extremely rigid gender roles. Also causes homophobia etc. My ex boyfriend who was a famous actor, was super mentally abusive and he cheated on me with the whole İstanbul. Its been more than 20 years. But I still project it onto my husband sometimes. And he projects his süper abusive ex wife onto me.
I absolutely friggin loved this scene. Sally is in the cliche damsel in distress situation and you expect Barry to get up and save her or something like that but nope, she has to save herself. And then we know why she is so angry and so agressive. She was abused for a long time, its basically one of the most important parts of her character and I can totally believe that she would destroy that guy with a baseball bat and then her just falling apart in the end is beautiful acting
I was watching Season 2 again and this hit a little different. All the faux moralizing and empowered woman bullshit of Sally's piece and presumably her TV show distilled to an actual primal, animal encounter. I'm not sure any "arc" is quite resolved, it's just really fucked up, kinda like the Noho Hank thing. Kill or be killed.
I don't think that is why she is a total shitty person. like watch the show, her character is a bad person and is a asshole to almost everyone. it isn't for some " she was abused" type thing, she is just a bad lady.
@@Chibbykins if you read my comment you would see I said “ I don’t think that is why she is a shitty person.” I was saying her abuse isn’t why she is a piece of shit. She is just a shitty person. I don’t think her abuse has anything to do with her personality
That actor sold his shock of being stabbed so damn well. His stumbling through stuff, mumbling about what just happened while frantically looking for a reflection in the glass, sitting down to assess his situation, I live for scenes like this lol
Barry as a TV show is one of the all time greatest shows of all time: Just a master class in performance (from everyone), direction, sound design and writing.
I love how the door from the makeshift recording studio had shut itself off as Sally bumped onto it and cuts out the noise and sound from its display. Brutal.
the way the door closes and it goes silent makes the moment so much more impactful. also the fact that sally's never been involved in a scene of extreme violence until this scene hits so much more harder.
Agreed, Bill is amazing, this show made so many great choices. Re-watching this, they probably should have CGI'ed blood on the baseball bat. Can't win them all, I guess.
When the door opens again and you start hearing the noises of the bat as well. They're different to how they were at the start. You can just about hear the squelching with those few hits.
Reminds me of Ellie from the Last of Us, she'd never had to resort to extreme violence against a human being before and then suddenly she was forced to smash that guy's head with a bat until Joel stopped her.
I'm so glad Sally saved herself and Barry didn't rescue her. This is such a brilliant show. The acting is so incredible! This scene looks like it took such care and time to get it just right. The stunt work is just beautiful
@@iskyj Barry brought it in earlier when he heard a noise and put it on that nightstand thing. She's lucky the guy threw her right to the knife pretty much.
@@annaiorio4543 actually...as I thought. Someone who writes a show on this level doesn't let a detail like that get unexplained. The knife came from Barry at the beginning of the episode...when he thinks someone broke in and grabs a kitchen knife. He must have put it in his pocket and when the thug punched him, it fell on the floor. Hader is a master storyteller and he totally made you (us) forget about this.
They managed to do something I’ve legitimately never seen in almost every single episode, almost in every scene. In this scene, having the guy just standing there in the doorway as the camera pans and not acknowledging it at all until sally looks up from her notes and sees him… it was chilling and amazing.
Apparently she never got choked remember? Just like Barry screamed at her but never put his hands on her. I'm sure that's the type of abusive she received. She made a lot of things up, and sadly I feel she believes her own lies now. She doesn't even have a daughter. Still good for her standing up regardless. Still not too late to save her from going down the wrong path.
@@Taylored13 Do you forget about Sam s2 e4, dude was a piece a shit to barry and sally, and he also completely manipulated sally. What do you mean she made her abuse up. The baseball bat helped her get all of the rage she stores up for years out. Lets face it sally might be just as dangerous as Barry because they are both equally fueled by the rage of their past. I think Shakespeare and Bill Hader are really on to something.
@@Taylored13 did they say she never got choked? I think they confirmed that she was abused but just left Sam without saying anything instead of the acting scene she did where she stood up to him, which caused Sam to tell her to not do it because it would ruin his career
@@ryanjohnjohn3015 You're correct. People keep coming up with this "Oh, she was never choked" thing and I think they're severely misremembering what exactly the plot of Season 2 was (an unfortunate side-effect of there being 3 years/a global pandemic between seasons). The "lie" was that she stood up to Sam, not that the abuse never happened. Although quite frankly after this episode...
Well, it's a very bleak, violent, nihilistic show about damaged, violent, disconnected sociopaths doing horrible things to each other. It pretty much defines HBO. 😐
@@notaburnerlol395 Lol, my point being that the acting is really good not necessarily the fact she is being strangled, Ive seen scenes in worse shows/films that dont really make me feel as uncomfortable since the acting and direction is not great
@@TheStockwell They did it again, but what this show is excelling at is critiquing the culture and conditions of hollywood. Being extremely pretentious, upper class, elitist etc etc
Perfect comparison! We've watched these characters for years and even if they've done some crazy/horrible things we want to see them somewhat get back to a normal life. But there's no way and it just leaves a sinking feeling in your gut. Sally just stabbed a guy and beat him to death. I'm curious to see how she handles it once it all really settles in.
in season 2, sally facetimes her friend when she’s trying to write a scene about her abusive husband. sally’s friend says to her, “we headed over to your house and i grabbed a baseball bat, like that was gonna do any good.” in this scene, sally grabs a baseball bat and it *literally doesn’t do anything good.* the writing on this show is so fucking great
@@aaronaleal true but I think they meant good in the literal sense. Like the baseball bat did "Bad" in the sense that it was used to kill a person regardless of the context like that she was defending herself.
The way he doesn’t understand or is worried about what she did. the knife in his neck but it’s hitting his eye from the back, he’s trying not to panic but he knows it’s bad. Very realistic love how even though there’s comedy the fights are so damn real.
He's not "trying not to panic." His brain is damaged. He knows something is wrong, and it has something to do with his eye because it hurts, but he doesn't know what it is because his brain can't fully process it. This is because there is a knife through part of it.
I was confused on how his eye would be bleeding when the knife got jabbed in his neck, but I guess it would damage him enough internally for blood to come out from his socket I guess
This show deserves all the awards come Emmy season. This season WAS the darkest but the fact that the most comedic moment in this episode is the guy complaining about his eye shows the top tier level of writing on display. My God what a show.
This scene really threw me, and made me realize as much as I can't stand Sally as a person, it doesn't mean I want her to be choked to death by a biker dude gunning for Barry. Sad part about this is this could send her down an even darker path like Barry was talking about, which is one of the reasons he kept telling her to blame him. Make sure she focuses on the fact that it's his fault she had to defend herself, not that she made the choice to kill someone. At least, that's my interpretation. Also the fact that biker dude is just as much a psychopath as anyone else on this show because of how calm he was while strangling Sally. No doubt making her flashback to how Sam would cross that line and then act like he loved her.
Glad I’m not the only one that knows Sally is a shitty self-absorbed person. After seeing the episode with her heartless bitch of a mom, it’s easy to see where she got her terrible personality from. lol
I need to get hbo and watch this show. This scene alone is dripping in realism. Senseless violence in real life is horrific, traumatizing, heartbreaking, and at times soul crushing. The emptiness that follows such violence, is one that can reduce a sane person to tears. This was visceral. The woman that plays sally is a phenomenal actor.
Everyone is quick to dismiss Barry as someone who is just completely gone and incapable of living normally but in this scene his first and only concern is ridding Sally of this surprise nightmare that came out of nowhere and taking full responsibility so she will be safe and okay. He is often a very compassionate and empathetic person who wants to help other people but he's also an unhinged maniac and assassin for hire, that's why I love Barry.
If he was an "unhinged maniac" he wouldn't of done this-among a plethora of other thing's-which is partly what makes the show so great, Barry is like the epitome of a morally grey character, and this might just be the greatest show of all time in regards to showing how grey the world and human beings truly are.
Yeah he's a traumatized PTSD War veteran who just didn't get the proper help, & in turn, if anything he turned to the very people who made his PTSD-coping much much worse.
@@CommanderLongJohn I almost feel he wants to be normal & connect, because he subconsciously longs for connection & empathy, but Fuches just wasn't the right father-figure for him, so he's even more broken.
Any other show would have had Sally stab the guy, and that would be it. She would be safe, and he would be dead. Instead, they had him get up, surviving the injury and objectively confused about what happened. This added a degree of horror for the audience on how clearly the dude was not okay, despite reacting in a fairly mundane reaction. Furthermore, him surviving, allowed for Sally to let loose all her rage, brutally finishing him off and adding to her own character development. The action, and every single moment in the scene furthers the forward progression of the characters, and was not just violence for violence. Masterfully done. This show is outstanding.
Damn that was brutal especially that motor rose guy but gotta admit he’d had coming but sally😨😬she’s really going to have problems next season I knew it was a matter of time she’d explode.
I was expecting the stereotypical off camera save from Barry that has been done several hundred times across motion picture history. But this breaks the trope. The biker even keeps looking at Barry's direction to make sure he doesn't wake up and hit him.
2:57 this is actually my favorite shot of this episode. The mixture of emotions on Barry’s face is heartbreaking and haunting. It’s almost a “what have I done” moment, but it’s not. It’s a “what has she done?” And the realization that Sally might go down the same path he did, when just moments before he was trying to keep her from it. It reminds me of the painting of Ivan the Terrible killing his son. (Everything about this scene was amazing. Everything about this whole SHOW is amazing.)
One of the strongest and most gripping scenes in Television since I've gave a shit to care about it. Everything leading up to this scene, the abuse, the choking, in insanity, the love, the PTSD and how to deal with it. It's one of the best moments in dramatic Television history in my opinion. Also, one of Barry's most redeeming moments, from start to finish. Criminally underrated no mater how much praise they get!
I love how the show tricked, or I guess gaslighted, us into believing Sally was gonna die with that one scene where everyone is by the ocean. I truly thought this was going to be the end of her character but dang Hader this was something else
Well since the show isn't supposed to be supernatural I never thought Barry's drugged vision had any bearing on what events would happen in the future...
Hi. For future references, what you mean to say here isn't 'gaslighting', but actually 'red herring', which means clues that were used to distract from unexpected plot progression. 'Gaslight' would have mean that the show was trying to convince us that we're wrong even though we're not, which is not applicable in your sentence. Have a lovely day 👍
Sarah's power over face expressions is truly incredible. Probably the best actress i have ever seen in my life. Even Meryl Streep cant do what Sarah does with her facial expressions. Her control is unbelievable.
So where does she go from here? Sally got pushed to the absolute limit and beyond: she did everything right in the Hollywood machine and got screwed over in the end, and because she lashed out in response her career is in tatters and everyone who supported her has left. Did Barry taking the blame make her come to her senses, or is she continuing down the dark path? (A part of me worries she's headed to Joplin to kill Sam - not sure of this, wasn't he moving to San Diego when he appeared in Season 2?)
@@GigaChadh976 I'm not referring to a moral "doing everything right": more, she got the success in Hollywood she craved with her show (no matter how many people she stepped on to get it), but the show got cancelled due to circumstances beyond her control, and beyond her influence, just from an uncaring executive and a bunch of numbers. Pushing everyone away and refusing to compromise comes in the aftermath of that, learning that it didn't matter that she was successful, it could all be taken away, and thus lashing out.
A scene I like to tie into this is in the previous episode, after sally blows up on her agent you see her step into the darker side of the room, back into whatever darkness she really has inside. Which we haven’t seen before but it’s obvious foreshadowing because it’s the same as when Barry walked into the dark hallway at the end of season 2 we could be seeing some crazy shit next season
Barry went into his darkness willingly (embracing it). Sally backed into hers unknowingly (showing that it’s bubbling to the surface). Hank was forced into his darkness (dragging it out of someone we knew as kind and pure).
@@ANGELILYworks I think that was largely subconscious, but I agree. Even if the motivations are different, the scene follows a really similar trajectory. Both of them get choked on the ground, and regain control after stabbing the person, and proceed to lose themselves in the act of killing them until they’re interrupted by someone who attempts to console them. Barry even holds her in a near identical way to Joel.
For a second I laughed at the way Sally got slapped because the body movements were silly and knowing the actress wasn't truly hurt in this scene. But immediately afterwards I became horrified watching her get choked.
No cause somebody on tiktok just tried to point out that sally killed someone when i pointed out that barry is a murderer and not a good person killing in self defense is not fucking murder
the fact that they managed to do so much in a 30 minute episode is so crazy to me
I can’t believe it. It’s like mfing black magic, I swear to god. Never experienced anything like this. Felt like an hour-long episode. I was certain it was going to go to credits after the this scene, but the Sally/Moss/Cousineau scenes were still left.
@@Legomax18 foreal this show hypnotized me when I watch it’s amazing
They don't waste any moments on this show. It's fucking incredible - especially in a world where so many TV shows are full of filler
@@Legomax18 that’s exactly how I felt about the opening episode too. Didn’t expect Barry to just dive right into the absolute shit show that Barry has caused.
Right I had completely forgot about this guy. I was like who the hell is this guy 🤣😂
You know this episode is dark, when the only "gag" in the entire runtime, is a dude complaining that a knife has lodged in his eye
Dude I’d never seen that kind of injury on TV or film before. Traumatic eye injury with a blade-from behind the skull. Insane.
The gay conversion scene is kinda funny tho lol, still fked up
Not true I laughed when the bald dude was handcuffed and didn't know what was going on 😂
@@halloweenhisteria327 Bald dude? you been watching 3 entire seasons and you still cant remember his name is Walter White?
Everyone was saying this episode had no jokes in it, but like you pointed out there's this gag with the knife, and there's also the conversation with the detective and the police chief when they're talking about Albert.
Detective- "has anyone heard from Albert?" (Something to that effect)
Chief- no we haven't seen him since he talked to fuches, then came out and cocked his gun in front of us. He's probably out seeing the sites. Wish he'd take me with him"
It's a super subtle joke, but I thought it was hilarious. How is the police chief such a buffoon 😂😂
I love how he doesn't understand the knife came from BEHIND. He's in shock, and only understands he can't see through his left eye anymore, assuming she put something in from the front.
The only other movie to do a scene like this is book of Eli when Eli chops a dudes hand off he’s in shock talking bout his hand and stops fighting cause of all the shock
This show is f’in incredible, very realistic
We're so used to "typical" movie injuries, that shit like this always look so gnarly. Reminds me of a movie Blue Ruin or Pan's Labyrinth.
And he looks through see-through glass like a mirror
@@mojojoji5493 That was such a fun but weird movie.
I love the awkward realism in the action of this show. Goran loosely waving the gun around before he dies from a headshot, untrained characters missing shots, the extras when the shooting happens at the car shop. In this scene, it’s how the biker reacts to the knife through the back of his head. He just starts cursing and sits down on his phone trying to see what even happened. Stuff like that makes the action in Barry so much more unique.
It's all very surreal. None of it is "cool" in a John Wick sort of way, this is more Cohen Brothers. Very unique show.
I love how they sort of de-mythologize tv violence. Real violence is awkward, and most people aren't that good at it. It's my favorite element of the show.
Dude I lost my shit when he got on his phone lmao
People who get shot in the head have no motor functions and will drop to the floor like a bag of potatoes.
It also adds an element of emotional investment while I was watching this I was thinking about how I’d be just as mad as her it’s like mf don’t you dare sit down acting all hurt after you almost crushed my windpipe it makes her anger more impactful and relatable as a character and alil funny
I love how this scene is the polar opposite of the Noho Hank scene but both show aspects of brutality and violence. In this one, the sound cuts out and you only see Sally's actions through the booth's window, but in the Noho Hank scene, you don't see anything but just hear the mauling, flesh being sliced and the screams of agony. Just brilliant.
That's just classic juxtaposition used right
Marvellous observation
bravo bill!
Barry trying to persuade her that she didn't kill the man and taking full responsability for it is the most weirdest yet beautiful proof that he truly loves Sally and don't want her to endure the pain and the guilt he's inflict to himself since the beginning of the show.
The series is a masterpiece of writing since it has begun but Season 3 brings it to a whole another level.
Idk I always felt like Barry always saw Sally as an idea of some perfect woman and not who she really is and him doing this is just a last resort to save the version of her he’s built up in his head (exactly how he gets himself arrested by doing the same for Gene). Maybe he actually convinced himself that he loves her by doing this because all season she said I love you and he never said it back but the at the end of the episode it’s reversed. I’m still not convinced Barry loves Sally in all her fucked up glory because he treats her like a wounded bird and it seems like he’s always overlooked her red flags unless he’s in the middle of losing his shit
I think that’s more true for the first season, when he was fantasizing about a life with her even though she was only friendly to him. I think the two of them have genuinely gotten used to one another, which is partly why Sally wasn’t going to do anything at first after Barry yelled at her. Maybe Barry does still put Sally on a pedestal, but I think they’re just both traumatically damaged and complicated people and they do genuinely care about one another.
In the podcast about the show Hader says that he actually does love both Sally and Mr. Cousineau, but they don't really love him back, because he's a psychopathic murdering monster. It's a fucked up, sad, but also kind of hilarious dynamic.
@Mikey Trahant From what I know it's been planned along with season 3 so we'll have it later on
@Mikey Trahant There will be, and Hader is directing all the episodes!
The choking was uncomfortably long and I loved that. Makes the viewer feel helpless and want to help Sally.
I expected Barry helping her, that's the most cliche thing most of the shows do, but letting her do the work was great
@@SQOUREE Meh, the "victim finds a weapon at the very last moment" shtick is cliched as hell too.
And the probability that anyone would luckily find a weapon in such a situation is really low.
Barry saving her would have at least been plausible.
@@Trebor6127 what are you talking about that’s literally the knife that barry dropped on the floor in the beginning of the scene
@@joshuadoty4682 When? He is only holding a smartphone.
@@Trebor6127 barry hears a noise in the apartment, grabs a knife and holds in up through the doorway before realizing it’s sally and drops his knife and that’s when she takes him up on his offer and the title card pops up. the knife he drops if what she uses
Such effective writing when Barry says "I did this" and Sally follows, "I did this..."
Sarah Goldberg is phenomenal
It's called field expediate psychotics conditioning.
@@HighSpeedNoDrag
It’s called “these nuts in your mouth.“
Sarah's control over her facial expressions is mindblowing. Even Meryl Streep doesn't have that level of control.
Emmy's for everyone on this show. Goldberg especially. She's next level this season.
Yeah, Winkler, Hader, Goldberg, Carrigan, even that guy that played Ryan Madison dad, atleast for a guest role
“YOU ENTITLED F**KING C*NT!!!” Best scene ever
@@SQOUREE the choice Madison's dad ulmately makes was heartbreaking. Holy shit.
Unfortunately, Sarah Goldberg missed while Bill Hader and Anthony Carigan got in
@@SQOUREE He's also Jesse Pinkman's dad!
This show is so incredibly well written because you can clearly see that when Sally was hitting that guy to death she was thinking about her abusive ex. It's the PTSD acting.
I'd argue the lack of morality here is sort of the point vs. Sally's dramatic bullshitting, moralizing and mythologizing (you might have forgotten somewhat) in Season 2. Her husband was a mediocre nothing and his abuse was an expression of his boorishness. Entire cultures (like Russia) have men who "abuse" this way (and throughout history, for sure,) the women would certainly say it sucks, but then likely laugh at the notion they have PTSD from their moron husband's pitiful tirades and outbursts. Sally's beating him like the ape from "2001," no God or value system or mythic redemption or arc in the room.
@@gibberconfirm166nope, the point is definitely unresolved trauma/PTSD, which affect many characters, but primarily sally and Barry, for sally, she was abused when she was 19, which 100% changed her brain, likely influencing to become narcacisstic…I mean, to her she had no control, couldn’t stand up, she was a nobody and than she famous. That must be hard to actually see how fucked up she is. With Barry, he suffered from PTSD in the military, and upon being discharged, he was manipulated and further molded into a true violent character. Each kill made it easier for him, normalized it etc. it’s all about unresolved trauma, and how not focusing on how you internal feel will influence every decision you make. Barry has been trying to stop killing people, but you notice he doesn’t ever try to solve his trauma from all his killings, or his rage issues.
@@gibberconfirm166and referencing Russia is a little disingenuous, while russian women may laugh at the idea, that’s largely because the culture doesn’t recognize domestic abuse (not even legally), leading to a much harder time recognize the consequences or trauma from abuse. Russia is actually interesting, cause never once have they ever had a government or leader that actually cared about the people. The people have always paid, and there’s psychological theories that this has led to russians Conscienceness being very different from the west. Abuse affects them the same, but they way they deal with it, or ignore it is not comprehendable to the west. In Russia, you have no choice but to let the trauma grow and affect you.
@@gibberconfirm166 True. Same in Turkey. Extremely rigid gender roles. Also causes homophobia etc. My ex boyfriend who was a famous actor, was super mentally abusive and he cheated on me with the whole İstanbul. Its been more than 20 years. But I still project it onto my husband sometimes. And he projects his süper abusive ex wife onto me.
You are making crap up.
I absolutely friggin loved this scene. Sally is in the cliche damsel in distress situation and you expect Barry to get up and save her or something like that but nope, she has to save herself. And then we know why she is so angry and so agressive. She was abused for a long time, its basically one of the most important parts of her character and I can totally believe that she would destroy that guy with a baseball bat and then her just falling apart in the end is beautiful acting
I was watching Season 2 again and this hit a little different. All the faux moralizing and empowered woman bullshit of Sally's piece and presumably her TV show distilled to an actual primal, animal encounter. I'm not sure any "arc" is quite resolved, it's just really fucked up, kinda like the Noho Hank thing. Kill or be killed.
I don't think that is why she is a total shitty person. like watch the show, her character is a bad person and is a asshole to almost everyone. it isn't for some " she was abused" type thing, she is just a bad lady.
@@garrettl8247 nobody said Sally's not shitty. they're saying her actions here are triggered by her past abuse
@@Chibbykins if you read my comment you would see I said “ I don’t think that is why she is a shitty person.” I was saying her abuse isn’t why she is a piece of shit. She is just a shitty person. I don’t think her abuse has anything to do with her personality
@@garrettl8247 who said her abuse has something to do with her personality?
after this episode, it reminds me of how cheerful the first season was
The Panther mauling legit fucked me over.
@@deathincarnate2822 Me too, I kind of wish I didn't hear it to be honest
That actor sold his shock of being stabbed so damn well. His stumbling through stuff, mumbling about what just happened while frantically looking for a reflection in the glass, sitting down to assess his situation, I live for scenes like this lol
he was using his phone camera
and bumping into the cymbals because he doesn't have peripheral vision, could easily oversell that but it's so realistically awkward
Barry as a TV show is one of the all time greatest shows of all time: Just a master class in performance (from everyone), direction, sound design and writing.
Yes.
The first two seasons. The second two were pretentious meandering.
@@alphanerd7221quite the opposite actually seasons 3 and 4 are way better
@@lifeisberserk9566 Congrats on being wrong and lame.
@@alphanerd7221 not wrong first 2 are mid
I love how the door from the makeshift recording studio had shut itself off as Sally bumped onto it and cuts out the noise and sound from its display. Brutal.
Yaaa making literally everything we saw this season have purpose legit down to the goofy sound proof room haha
Those boys got talent, just not in acting
That ruined the scene for me. As someone who works with soundproofing I know that there is no way that booth would drown out that murder.
@@alphanerd7221 You mean TV shows take creative liberties and aren't totally realistic??? Wow, will never watch another show ever again.
@@TechnologicallyTechnical I mean bad writing ruins scenes for people who aren't ignorant.
the way the door closes and it goes silent makes the moment so much more impactful. also the fact that sally's never been involved in a scene of extreme violence until this scene hits so much more harder.
Agreed, Bill is amazing, this show made so many great choices. Re-watching this, they probably should have CGI'ed blood on the baseball bat. Can't win them all, I guess.
When the door opens again and you start hearing the noises of the bat as well. They're different to how they were at the start. You can just about hear the squelching with those few hits.
Reminds me of Ellie from the Last of Us, she'd never had to resort to extreme violence against a human being before and then suddenly she was forced to smash that guy's head with a bat until Joel stopped her.
I'm so glad Sally saved herself and Barry didn't rescue her. This is such a brilliant show. The acting is so incredible! This scene looks like it took such care and time to get it just right. The stunt work is just beautiful
I wish she had gouged his eyes out with her nails or something instead of pulling a knife out of thin air though.
What I am trying to understand is where she got the knife from...there was no indication there was one anywhere near her.
@@iskyj I know! Did Barry drop it earlier? It just magically appeared in this clip!
@@iskyj Barry brought it in earlier when he heard a noise and put it on that nightstand thing. She's lucky the guy threw her right to the knife pretty much.
@@annaiorio4543 actually...as I thought. Someone who writes a show on this level doesn't let a detail like that get unexplained. The knife came from Barry at the beginning of the episode...when he thinks someone broke in and grabs a kitchen knife. He must have put it in his pocket and when the thug punched him, it fell on the floor. Hader is a master storyteller and he totally made you (us) forget about this.
They managed to do something I’ve legitimately never seen in almost every single episode, almost in every scene. In this scene, having the guy just standing there in the doorway as the camera pans and not acknowledging it at all until sally looks up from her notes and sees him… it was chilling and amazing.
Bill Hader said he wanted this episode to feel like a panic attack. All I have to say is, "well done sir."
I shed a tear when sally was getting choked bringing back bad memories but finds a way to fight it. Who knew she had it in her?
My guess is that it's a flashback with her ex, only this time she was able to fight back instead of leaving.
Apparently she never got choked remember?
Just like Barry screamed at her but never put his hands on her. I'm sure that's the type of abusive she received.
She made a lot of things up, and sadly I feel she believes her own lies now. She doesn't even have a daughter.
Still good for her standing up regardless. Still not too late to save her from going down the wrong path.
@@Taylored13 Do you forget about Sam s2 e4, dude was a piece a shit to barry and sally, and he also completely manipulated sally. What do you mean she made her abuse up. The baseball bat helped her get all of the rage she stores up for years out. Lets face it sally might be just as dangerous as Barry because they are both equally fueled by the rage of their past. I think Shakespeare and Bill Hader are really on to something.
@@Taylored13 did they say she never got choked? I think they confirmed that she was abused but just left Sam without saying anything instead of the acting scene she did where she stood up to him, which caused Sam to tell her to not do it because it would ruin his career
@@ryanjohnjohn3015 You're correct. People keep coming up with this "Oh, she was never choked" thing and I think they're severely misremembering what exactly the plot of Season 2 was (an unfortunate side-effect of there being 3 years/a global pandemic between seasons).
The "lie" was that she stood up to Sam, not that the abuse never happened. Although quite frankly after this episode...
At this point the show is no longer a comedy. It’s gone full breaking bad.
Still a comedy
You re gonna have to explain the breaking bad comparison
@@davidoffofficial well he might not be comparing it to bb, he's just saying how the show went from dark comedy to just full on dark, like bb
@@davidoffofficial its breakin time
There are still HUGE laughs, although it never gets tonally awkward. That's the real trick here. It's kind of astonishing.
When the biker guy was choking sally I genuinely felt uncomfortable watching it, this show is a masterpiece
Yeah most people tend to get a little uncomfortable when watching a person try to strangle another person to death.
Well, it's a very bleak, violent, nihilistic show about damaged, violent, disconnected sociopaths doing horrible things to each other. It pretty much defines HBO. 😐
@@notaburnerlol395 Lol, my point being that the acting is really good not necessarily the fact she is being strangled, Ive seen scenes in worse shows/films that dont really make me feel as uncomfortable since the acting and direction is not great
@@TheStockwell They did it again, but what this show is excelling at is critiquing the culture and conditions of hollywood. Being extremely pretentious, upper class, elitist etc etc
What makes it super chilling is how his face turns totally calm when he is convinced that this is it, she can't fight anymore...
this scene is really well written. What a reaction to the stab
This episode was Barry's Ozymandias. NO ONE comes back from anything that happened here.
Perfect comparison! We've watched these characters for years and even if they've done some crazy/horrible things we want to see them somewhat get back to a normal life. But there's no way and it just leaves a sinking feeling in your gut.
Sally just stabbed a guy and beat him to death. I'm curious to see how she handles it once it all really settles in.
in season 2, sally facetimes her friend when she’s trying to write a scene about her abusive husband. sally’s friend says to her, “we headed over to your house and i grabbed a baseball bat, like that was gonna do any good.” in this scene, sally grabs a baseball bat and it *literally doesn’t do anything good.* the writing on this show is so fucking great
doesn't do anything good except save her life
@@aaronaleal true but I think they meant good in the literal sense. Like the baseball bat did "Bad" in the sense that it was used to kill a person regardless of the context like that she was defending herself.
You gotta give props to Barry's roommates, those guys aced the soundproofing on the booth.
Barry’s influence on those around him is a virus. Great episode.
Facts.
And after last nights episode…yikes ha
they did such a good job making you forget about the knife
Where did the knife come from? I forgot
@@maeannengo4908 Barry brought it into the room when he heard a noise that turned out to be Sally
@@connorambrosino1741 Thanks
@@maeannengo4908 barry enter with it at the start of the episode because he tought someone dangerous broke in
@@luislozano6332 Thanks
This entire episode was an anxiety attack
Bill Hader said he literally designed it to 'feel like an anxiety attack'.
@@bobthestinky7369 I still cannot shake Hader being on SNL and his expressions are legendary.
This episode is the show's Ozymandias. If it's not, then I'm not ready for it.
The way he doesn’t understand or is worried about what she did. the knife in his neck but it’s hitting his eye from the back, he’s trying not to panic but he knows it’s bad. Very realistic love how even though there’s comedy the fights are so damn real.
He's not "trying not to panic." His brain is damaged. He knows something is wrong, and it has something to do with his eye because it hurts, but he doesn't know what it is because his brain can't fully process it. This is because there is a knife through part of it.
@@DrCruel that’s what I said love you
@@mojojoji5493 you love him?
I was confused on how his eye would be bleeding when the knife got jabbed in his neck, but I guess it would damage him enough internally for blood to come out from his socket I guess
@@thebadwolf3088 you don’t? 💔
I knew this show would end in a Shakespearian tragedy and this episode proved it.
Season 4 was green lit tho
@@deathincarnate2822 Really really wondering where the series is gonna go in the next season. This better not drag out!
Barry is untouchable as far as HBO shows go
Not even Succession is this good, and that show is on a whole other level.
If the ending isn't shit, it'll be HBOs best show hands down.
Righteous Gemstones was good but it kinda fizzled out a little wrapping it up. Fuck S tier, we need the Barry tier, and only Barry is in that tier.
@@kryvex4996 i don't think is going to be shit, but season 4 needs to be the last season, there's no way they can do 7-8 season out of this show
@@kryvex4996 I don’t even think Bill Hader can make bad episodes
Totally connects with today's ep... Magnificent show!
This show deserves all the awards come Emmy season. This season WAS the darkest but the fact that the most comedic moment in this episode is the guy complaining about his eye shows the top tier level of writing on display. My God what a show.
This scene really threw me, and made me realize as much as I can't stand Sally as a person, it doesn't mean I want her to be choked to death by a biker dude gunning for Barry. Sad part about this is this could send her down an even darker path like Barry was talking about, which is one of the reasons he kept telling her to blame him. Make sure she focuses on the fact that it's his fault she had to defend herself, not that she made the choice to kill someone. At least, that's my interpretation. Also the fact that biker dude is just as much a psychopath as anyone else on this show because of how calm he was while strangling Sally. No doubt making her flashback to how Sam would cross that line and then act like he loved her.
I really want redemption for anyone on this show. The fact the Sally is leaving town at the end of the season gives me hope for her.
@@MickySarge idk man. isn't her abusive ex living in joplin too now?
Glad I’m not the only one that knows Sally is a shitty self-absorbed person. After seeing the episode with her heartless bitch of a mom, it’s easy to see where she got her terrible personality from. lol
*I just want to say that the actor that played the motocross man did some badass acting* 🔥🔥🔥
this was definitely one of my favorite scenes in the episode.
I need to get hbo and watch this show.
This scene alone is dripping in realism.
Senseless violence in real life is horrific, traumatizing, heartbreaking, and at times soul crushing. The emptiness that follows such violence, is one that can reduce a sane person to tears.
This was visceral. The woman that plays sally is a phenomenal actor.
Everyone is quick to dismiss Barry as someone who is just completely gone and incapable of living normally but in this scene his first and only concern is ridding Sally of this surprise nightmare that came out of nowhere and taking full responsibility so she will be safe and okay. He is often a very compassionate and empathetic person who wants to help other people but he's also an unhinged maniac and assassin for hire, that's why I love Barry.
Yeah people are forgetting like he is a traumatized veteran with PTSD and anger issues
Yes he should be in jail but also like get psychological help
If he was an "unhinged maniac" he wouldn't of done this-among a plethora of other thing's-which is partly what makes the show so great, Barry is like the epitome of a morally grey character, and this might just be the greatest show of all time in regards to showing how grey the world and human beings truly are.
Yeah he's a traumatized PTSD War veteran who just didn't get the proper help, & in turn, if anything he turned to the very people who made his PTSD-coping much much worse.
@@CommanderLongJohn I almost feel he wants to be normal & connect, because he subconsciously longs for connection & empathy, but Fuches just wasn't the right father-figure for him, so he's even more broken.
Sally truly deserves an Oscar 👏
I can't believe this is a COMEDY show. What a masterpiece.
3:23 -- One of the most gut-wrenching close-ups I've ever seen
This was one of the most visceral, disturbing scenes I’ve ever seen. That rage bubbling up inside you when that guy is choking her. Wow. Powerful.
Any other show would have had Sally stab the guy, and that would be it. She would be safe, and he would be dead. Instead, they had him get up, surviving the injury and objectively confused about what happened. This added a degree of horror for the audience on how clearly the dude was not okay, despite reacting in a fairly mundane reaction.
Furthermore, him surviving, allowed for Sally to let loose all her rage, brutally finishing him off and adding to her own character development. The action, and every single moment in the scene furthers the forward progression of the characters, and was not just violence for violence.
Masterfully done. This show is outstanding.
Damn that was brutal especially that motor rose guy but gotta admit he’d had coming but sally😨😬she’s really going to have problems next season I knew it was a matter of time she’d explode.
I'm curious to see how she handles it once it all settles in. She didn't just kill him, she killed him in a very brutal and up close and personal way.
I don’t think there’s gonna be another season
@@smoontrain9804 Yeah there is, they already wrote it.
@@Phelps-1247 oh JEEZ
@@Phelps-1247 this season is already killing me n there’s MORE?
This episode felt like a high budget movie the cinematography was awesome
This season was so much darker
I was expecting the stereotypical off camera save from Barry that has been done several hundred times across motion picture history. But this breaks the trope. The biker even keeps looking at Barry's direction to make sure he doesn't wake up and hit him.
2:57 this is actually my favorite shot of this episode. The mixture of emotions on Barry’s face is heartbreaking and haunting. It’s almost a “what have I done” moment, but it’s not. It’s a “what has she done?” And the realization that Sally might go down the same path he did, when just moments before he was trying to keep her from it. It reminds me of the painting of Ivan the Terrible killing his son. (Everything about this scene was amazing. Everything about this whole SHOW is amazing.)
She's a great actress holy shit. That close up was chilling.
Barry gonna sweep the Emmys nominations, I'm manifesting it!
Yes, finally someone expresses a logical outcome and does not perceive the series as reality. .
One of the strongest and most gripping scenes in Television since I've gave a shit to care about it. Everything leading up to this scene, the abuse, the choking, in insanity, the love, the PTSD and how to deal with it. It's one of the best moments in dramatic Television history in my opinion. Also, one of Barry's most redeeming moments, from start to finish. Criminally underrated no mater how much praise they get!
How a wacky car chase culminated into this intense scene, is just one way this show is great!
I love how the show tricked, or I guess gaslighted, us into believing Sally was gonna die with that one scene where everyone is by the ocean. I truly thought this was going to be the end of her character but dang Hader this was something else
Well since the show isn't supposed to be supernatural I never thought Barry's drugged vision had any bearing on what events would happen in the future...
No not gaslighted. Stop using that word.
I don’t think the dream was a foreshadowing of her death, it was more of Barry’s subconscious fear of being responsible for her and genes deaths.
Thats not what gaslighting is…
Hi. For future references, what you mean to say here isn't 'gaslighting', but actually 'red herring', which means clues that were used to distract from unexpected plot progression. 'Gaslight' would have mean that the show was trying to convince us that we're wrong even though we're not, which is not applicable in your sentence. Have a lovely day 👍
This entire scene was fucked up from start to finish, the sound room drowning out the brutality was perfect.
Sarah's power over face expressions is truly incredible. Probably the best actress i have ever seen in my life. Even Meryl Streep cant do what Sarah does with her facial expressions. Her control is unbelievable.
So where does she go from here? Sally got pushed to the absolute limit and beyond: she did everything right in the Hollywood machine and got screwed over in the end, and because she lashed out in response her career is in tatters and everyone who supported her has left. Did Barry taking the blame make her come to her senses, or is she continuing down the dark path?
(A part of me worries she's headed to Joplin to kill Sam - not sure of this, wasn't he moving to San Diego when he appeared in Season 2?)
Imagine a spin off called “Sally”, continuing after barry s4.
She didn’t do everything right. She pushed everyone away and refused to compromise
@@GigaChadh976 I'm not referring to a moral "doing everything right": more, she got the success in Hollywood she craved with her show (no matter how many people she stepped on to get it), but the show got cancelled due to circumstances beyond her control, and beyond her influence, just from an uncaring executive and a bunch of numbers. Pushing everyone away and refusing to compromise comes in the aftermath of that, learning that it didn't matter that she was successful, it could all be taken away, and thus lashing out.
nah, i just think she wants to get away from all this chaos that happened to her in Hollywood going back to her hometown
@@colbyJackCheese746 My God the mere idea of that makes me want to vomit 🤢
I really love the direction of this series. Bill hader is a freaking genius. Why he is not directing movies?
Best show on television
Sarah was incredible in this series.
Called it. Knew she’d kill somebody
I thought she was going to snap and accidentally kill her agent or something. This was much better
A scene I like to tie into this is in the previous episode, after sally blows up on her agent you see her step into the darker side of the room, back into whatever darkness she really has inside. Which we haven’t seen before but it’s obvious foreshadowing because it’s the same as when Barry walked into the dark hallway at the end of season 2
we could be seeing some crazy shit next season
Yeah, I noticed that when I watched it the second time. Backing into the abyss...
Barry went into his darkness willingly (embracing it).
Sally backed into hers unknowingly (showing that it’s bubbling to the surface).
Hank was forced into his darkness (dragging it out of someone we knew as kind and pure).
Seeing that guy behind Barry remind me that Lalo Salamanca scene in bcs
Great now I have to relive that trauma again #justiceforhoward
Lets talk
Uh, there's really no need to-
SAME
HOWARD NO! 😢
She is just one of the best actresses.
"say Barry did this!"
"B-Barry d-did this"
"okay! who did this?"
"Noho Hank did this!"
"W-...what?"
😂😂😂😂 idk why this made me laugh out loud but it did😂😂😂
@@user-aesthetichere yeah idk i was probably drunk when i wrote that.
Holy crap. She is an incredible actor.
I hope the 2 actor friends that live in that unit do not get dragged into this whole mess
Amazing perrformance in this scene
I dont get it.. why wasn’t she even nominated… some of the best acting I’ve seen. And all season. Not even a Nom?? Hollywood sucks
At first I thought the motocross man was gonna dial 911 after being poked in the eye 🤣
He thought she stabbed him in the eye but really stabbed him in the optic nerve
I see
totally forgot about this, now i understand that scene with that dude in black in season six a little better
This show has gotten so dark but it’s incredible. Before I was recommending this show to friends but now I’m INSISTING they watch it
Sarah Goldberg is the 🐐... What a season from her
She sure looks like one.
Anyone reminded of The Last of Us at 3:09? In the scene where Ellie kills David? It’s incredibly similar; I wonder if it was intentional.
I love that game, but it’s because her ex used to choke her, and she wanted to do something about it this time.
@@ANGELILYworks I think that was largely subconscious, but I agree. Even if the motivations are different, the scene follows a really similar trajectory.
Both of them get choked on the ground, and regain control after stabbing the person, and proceed to lose themselves in the act of killing them until they’re interrupted by someone who attempts to console them. Barry even holds her in a near identical way to Joel.
The door on the sound booth gets me every time 😂
I have never felt so scared for a fictional character. This episode went HARD
At this moment I thought it's gonna bad end, I shout BARRY!! to wake up but Sally doing well instead, make me deep awkward. 9.9/10 for me.
Sally was such a self-centered, duplicitous, selfish individual. I couldn't stand her. Great show. I'm glad they're doing another season.
The cut away shot to Barry still unconscious is just amazing. Heart breaking.
This was pretty much self defence.
Did this scene win an Emmy cause goddamn.
i love how sarah's canadian accent when she said "house" just slipped by hah
De las mejores escenas de la historia de las series 👌
I love that she had the opportunity to get away but he just wouldn’t shut his damn mouth
I watched this episode while high and it was one of the top 10 worst decisions I’ve ever made
amazing how they fit all of this in just 4 minutes
That's Barry, fits more substance into half the time as most shows.
The actress playing Sally really nailed it!
Good for her
Sally went full Harley Quinn lol
For a second I laughed at the way Sally got slapped because the body movements were silly and knowing the actress wasn't truly hurt in this scene. But immediately afterwards I became horrified watching her get choked.
Also Mr. hader…..has proved himself arguably (not to me) a better director than jason bateman, and most tv directors.
I love that even Barry of all people saw her in the elevator and was like “Sally what the fuck”
Sally was fighting back in self defense, the biker guy literally tried to kill her.
We know.
Thank god you were here to point that out, guy.
Thanks Kuro, I never would have figured it out.
No cause somebody on tiktok just tried to point out that sally killed someone when i pointed out that barry is a murderer and not a good person killing in self defense is not fucking murder
Not once he was stabbed. That was a murder.
They're perfect for eachother
Poor Sally. Hollywood really messed her up. If I was Barry, I probably would have hugged her.
the attention to detail in this show is so good you can see the blue sleeping bag barry wrapped around the biker later on the episode
1:10 TEXAS SWITCH ALERT
A great one, by the way
This scene was awesome.