I chose the EV6. The dual motor AWD version is pretty much as quick as the Tesla, it rides really well, and in my view it's a better-resolved design. In fact, I think it's one of the best-looking cars on the market. But it's great to have a choice between so many really good EVs these days.
Fab balanced review. I am one of the lucky few here in the UK who actually took delivery of an EV6 2 weeks ago so actually have the benefit of having driven mine for over 600 miles during the first 2 weeks of ownership and can firmly report that I am so glad I didn't wait for the Model Y. I had guesstimated the price of the model Y at around £50k and was staggered to see it is starting at £55k, so by comparison the EV6 is stunning value. I have the EV6 GT Line RWD for £11k less. What do I gain and lose for my £11k? Well the Model Y has a bigger boot but the EV6 at 520 litres is hardly small, I can fold the back seats down and have 2m of space to lie down in if I want to sleep in it too. So hardly a huge issue. I lose AWD, but unless you really need to I'd be paying for something I don't really need (EV6 also has snow mode). Model Y is faster to 60 but the acceleration on mine is plenty for most people. The EV6 from standstill really shoots off impressively. What have I gained with the EV6? Faster charging than the Tesla, who would have thought of that a few years ago. And yes I know the fast chargers are limited but at least its future proofed as the network improves. Yes Tesla has the supercharger network and that is impressive but apparently that will be opened up by the end of 2022 anyway, great ! I also gain nicer looks with the Kia (Tesla just sticks to that jelly mould design), far better build quality (I do know a bit about these things, my previous car was an E class Mercedes), a 7 yr Kia warranty, a much nicer ride, superb handling and vehicle to load for those camping trips or a quick brew on a long journey. I also prefer the more conventional dashboard vs minimalist Tesla. Yes yes it's personal choice but having to move the vents and even adjust the rear seat passenger heating settings for them just feels like a bit of a faff quite frankly. I fully respect anyone preferring the Tesla, it all depends on your priority, but £11k in my back pocket for a lovely looking, fast charging, well built EV6 with a long warranty, lovely compliant ride and handling is the winner for me. I was worried when I started watching Model Y reviews I would regret my decision to buy the EV6 but all it has done is reassure myself that I had in fact made the right choice (for me 🙂). Hope you find this interesting and thought provoking.
Very interesting, thanks for the detailed post, you make a good case for EV6 vs Y. On the other hand, if the luggage capacity of the Y was not a necessity, a Model 3 might have been sufficient? It would have been cheaper/ quicker than the EV6.
I would choose the ev6 in rear wheel drive in red colour,such a beautiful looking car so much better looking than the Tesla, I hope to get one of these in a couple of years,plenty room for my mountain bike an camping gear an lots of room for passengers too , I'm on mission to save a big deposit so pay less on PCP finance monthly an get one of these Kia ev6,perfect car an the Mustang Mach e is another one I like but the Kia is 1st choice for me 💚👌👌👍
You also get bi-directional charging, in a few years this is a feature that will likely be standard with EVs, but for now Kia and Hyundai are the ones leading the charge (pun!) with actually having it available.
Well for most people storage and performance are paramount. And so is charging fast and KIA has no Supercharger network. Also the fact that a KIA will devalue in 3 years and be the same car - while the Tesla will be better from OTA updates retaining it's value more. 🚗
I got my EV6 GT Line S AWD just over a week ago after test drives of the Polestar 2 and Ioniq 5. I liked both cars, but aesthetically the EV6 trumps both, especially the Ioniq 5, which looks like it was designed in 1970 (a deliberate choice by Hyundai). I would have test driven a Model 3, but Tesla wanted me to sign an agreement to pay for any damage to the vehicle incurred during the test drive. If it had been written off, even if it was not my fault, I would have been over £50k down. So no test drive and no sale. Having sat in a Model 3, I thought the interior was a bit too plastic and flimsy, and don't get me on the guillotine-like hinge on the rear hatch. In my view, the EV6 is the better car.
I definitely prefer the Kia over the Tesla. The Kia just looks and feels more like a car, whereas the Tesla is a little "Bland" for me. I have ordered my Kia and will have it by February. One thing you noted was that you need to "upgrade" to get the electric powered boot, I have ordered the Earth / Air model and it comes as standard with that.... Good informative review! But by far the Kia stands out for me!
Oh my goodness, Vicky... You really surprised me with your verdict, I have to say. I actually thought you were going to be 'blinded' by the infamous "Tesla-factor" - the minimalist look... the performance... the Supercharger network... So, yeh - I was genuinely surprised that you chose the EV6... I'd agree, too - as much as Tesla is LEAGUES ahead of everyone else in terms of tech and efficiency and certainly has a brand that's more 'desirable', I'm glad you didn't ignore the unforgiving ride quality for what is, after all, going to be used to ferry kids and old folks about the place. Spot on verdict... 👍
Only one company is thinking about the final form ( robots driving us ). Once that occurs, it will be extremely disruptive. Nobody will care about power, looks, interior. As long as it gets you to your destination safely and in comfort. Society has associated their identity to what they drive for 100 years. And that is all going away. Still a few decades away from that IMO.
@@michaellim4165 That's completely not true. All real world tests show that Tesla has the best range. It is overrated most of the time but still is better
I recently purchased the Kia EV6 GT-Line RWD. I like that it feels more like a modern car instead of a spaceship. I want tactile interactions with things like environmental and audio controls. I want the important driving information in front of me. I’m really liking the heads up display, something that isn’t even talked about in this video.
The Kia EV6 AWD is the perfect reincarnation to my old BMW 530d AWD..... Quiet High quality Quick Good handling (suspension by the BMW M team) So I bought one and sold my BMW.
I would definitely buy the EV6 RWD rather than any Tesla. My close friends have Tesla, they all have numerous problems and poor sound insulation at high speed. Life is already tough, I don't need more problems in my life!
If you do not want problems in your life you should wait to take other close friends EV6, so you can make a comparison with them, maybe EV6 will have the same problems or others.
I had one of the first M3Ps in the UK, and only had a leaky rear light, which they promptly fixed. I doubt any automaker in history could produce what Tesla have done in such a small amount of time.
One of the few reviews I've seen that adequately highlights the ride in the model Y. I test drove one for about 30 minutes, you could chip a tooth going over normal road-bumps in this car.
How can you complain about pushing one button on the EV6 for climate control, but not complain about all things being controlled through the touch screen on the Tesla. Makes no sense.
I agree. Pressing 1 button to get the functions for AC in the KIA, compared to going through a menu on a big “iPad” while driving….uhhhhhh. Tough choice……
@@Kelveron You drive it like every other car and wait for it to get fixed. It doesn't just break, but if it does, you can control your car settings via your Tesla app, and it doesn't impede driving at all.
@@sebastianorye2702 Without the screen: how would you know what speed you are travelling at? How much range you have left? How can you drive in dark conditions without headlights? How about when it rains and you need to use the wipers...etc etc. Using the app (assuming on the phone) is not just a practical option in a lot of situations.
@@Kelveron Good question. Speedometer, climate control, battery percentage, and others are all available on your phone's app as the last resort. The screen really doesn't break, but there is the second option of your phone as last resort...
Great comparision. I was actually choosing between these 2 and really liked both of them. You may call me petty, but since my brother beat me to ordering the Kia, I went with the Tesla.
I highly recommend the 19"wheel/tire option on the Tesla because it makes a big difference over bumpy roads. Keep tire pressure no higher than 40 psi. The test vehicle used in the video had 20" wheels with the thinner tires.
@@anttiranki3690 I have the 19's on a 2021. No complaints as long as the tire pressure is at 40 psi. Supposedly the ride is even better on the 2023 with the "Comfort Suspension".
@@rkgsd I test drove the (I think it was the -21 model) with the 19s and it was just agony. Absolutely horrid stuff for a car that (at the time) cost around 65k eur. Now admittedly I don't life in Cali with smooth tarmac all the way. I test drove it in Finland during winter and it was just a teeth shattering experience.
Great review Vicky. Cant believe how many times you had to take your eye off the road in the Tesla to look at the information screen. Keep up the good work.
I have a Tesla. The whole thing people witter about regarding the screen is such a non event. No one mentions the OTA updates. The slick supercharger experience, or the fact that they’re the most efficient EV by a mile. Just that you may have to look at a central screen. What an inane comment.
“It’s a bit of a faff having to switch between 2 functions on the EV6 panel”. On the Tesla you have to switch through the menus to do everything! I think it’s good compromise between screen and actual buttons.
This isn't accurate. All of the controls you need to interact with whilst driving a Tesla are available through the multi function steering wheel buttons. The ethos at Tesla is not to have a button for a control that's rarely used. E.g. Wing mirrors once adjusted are rarely changed so why have physical buttons available?
@@odisy64 The Kia has voice commands as well. Point is, it’s still easier to press a button or twist a knob. I ferry my friends and family often and I’d rather chat with my mates than with the car.
@@slayergut Tesla's voice commands are the best but i dont think your going to spend the majority of your time switching the radio or opening your glove box. I hate buttons and knobs, i hated when the trend started in 2010 and i hate it more now, there is a reason we got rid of buttons on our phones and replaced them with screens and voice commands.
@@MrQwerty3000 Many reviewers complain about these things as if you have to go 12 layers deep into obscure menus. There are many "shortcuts" for functions so that you don't have to work through the two layers of menus. The quick access to mirror adjustment is to touch a seat position button. That brings up the selection window for steering wheel and mirror adjustments. Similarly you can set the wiper mode by tapping the wiper button on the stalk, and then selecting the mode on the screen.
Nice review. I’ve had my Model Y for 2 months now, and I love it. But! This review is so true - the suspension in a model Y isn’t very good. I’m opting for an aftermarket coil over to help bring some comfort to the ride. Other than that, it’s a great car!
Mind-blowing to me that I would need to spend 4k on aftermarket suspension after already paying 73k for the car in Ireland. For that reason I had to choose EV6 for now, although Tesla Model Y is my 2023 car when they sort out that problem.
Discounting the times you glanced at the camera in both vehicles, you looked in and down at the display of the Tesla a lot. I believe the minimalist look of the Model 3 and Y has been taken too far with too much focus on that one display for everything. Great when the vehicles drive themselves in the future, not so much at the moment. People still drive cars rather than travel in transportation pods.
Totally agree with Lane Keep Assist. My Tiguan has it and I live in the country. It could get scary at times hence why I turned it off and kept it off.
Kia hands down. For pricing, AND more importantly quality. The Model Y suffers from the same quality issues that still plague the model 3 years after launch. Tesla have the supercharger advantage which is a big plus, but for everything else the Kia.Very impressive, and terrifying for the Germans as well as the Japanese car makers.
Disagree with Tesla “suffering” from quality issues. We received our new Model Y just over a month ago. It is flawless. We have had zero issues. Assembly looks fantastic. Do realize that Tesla doesn’t stand still.
Excellent review. Can't wait to see the EV6 on the road in the US. Looks like the ev6 is in the lead for me. I can't see myself joining the tesla bandwagon. The minimalist interior is boring. I think I'd be bored driving it.
So driving something that is like every other car is not boring?? Note that the DRIVING is what sets Tesla apart from this KIA and other EVs It will snap your head back and handle like a Porsche. You sound like you'd be happier in a Korean car though. I'll stick to the highest rated car in Consumer Reports history. USA made Tesla. 🚗
@@cuda426hemi I currently drive a MB and it's nothing like every other car. I'm an old lady now and have had too many cars to even count and porshe-like isn't what I'm in need of. I'm buying in 2023 so by that time I expect MB will have a comparable SUV and I'll likely go with that over Kia or Audi. My husband always goes with US manufacturers for his trucks and after it's paid for, we always have to get rid of them. Sorry but quality and comfort is primary for me. Neighbors own teslas model 3's. I've rode inside them and the interior doesn't compare to MB. I wish telsa well because it's manufactured here, but we're in a global economy and competition is a wonderful thing!
@@bratin1215 MB IS like every other car - and to prove it you have no problem entertaining a Korean car. You are kicking tires - that's okay, but MB will suffer the same growing pains VW is going through while Tesla just keeps iterating - take for example MB has had 10 years to match Tesla and they still haven't matched them in any metric - power, range, OTA updates, software Full Self Driving - none of it. I wish you luck. 🚗
Vicky is always great to watch. She's a straight up fantastic presenter. And I also agree with her choice. I drive a Kia Optima today and even though it's not a powerhouse, it's a great car to drive. When it's ev time for us, this comparison will be where we will be. Your always welcome to visit us here in Canada Vicky.
The 20" Induction wheels make for a terrible ride. We have two Model Ys and we made sure to get our second one with the 19 inch Geminis and the ride is substantially better.
Why do you have two? I wanted to get one for our family car but after renting one out, I wanted to drive off a cliff. I found it to be a very stupid car and don't get me started on thr quality.
@@didiermejia780 I don't believe you about your comment, quality comment again, not true, don't make stuff up. Yes the ride is too hard and it is too wide for European roads, but don't make other stuff up.
@@Tom55data I never mentioned anything about the ride quality. I prefer a stiffer ride over a bouncy one. What I said is the build quality is horrible. The materials are poor and the fit and finish are poor too. The car does not feel like a 50 car should. My civic has better quality.
@@didiermejia780 if you criticize a car as being “a very stupid car”, I’d suggest you’re even more stupid. Teslas are known for being the most advanced AI software car, no “smarter cars”.
@@clu4u might have advance software, it's still a stupid car. I mean, why do you have to use the touchscreen to open a glovebox, or adjust side view mirrors, or unluck the doors, or adjust ac vent direction? These are all decisions tesla made in the name of form over function and that is why it's is a stupid car. And again, the quality is so poor.
Great review and really fair I would say as they are both obviously very good cars. Personally, I dont like Tesla styling whilst the Kia looks fantastic to me - that alone would get my money. The fact that its also a really really good EV is the knockout blow.
Should have tested the GT-line AWD vs the Model Y. It’s a bit more comparable in terms of price and features. Even then, the Tesla is $6k more expensive than a fully optioned EV6 in the GT-line trim and that’s a base spec model Y with no FSD/EA. I chose the Kia after driving both. The tech is great on the model Y, but at that price point the model Y should be better appointed to compete in this evolving market.
I have seen a lot of people in the us changing the suspension on the model Y. I don’t think Tesla changed the suspension from the 3 to Y. They just made it stiffer to handle the weight.
I saw rich-rebuilds converting an S model to be ice with a Chevy V8 in the fruit-frunk, sequential gearbox a drive-shaft + rear differential and Vibrant exhaust .. BTW super swap very cool build it was presented at SEMA few days ago.. ;0)
I have driven electric cars since 2013 from Nissan Leaf and Kia E-Niro to now Tesla Model 3. I have reservations for Model Y and CyberTruck. Buying any EV is a win, choose what ever suits your use case, your style and your budget. The Kia is an excellent car indeed, but for performance and tech, I’m enjoying the Tesla at present. Tesla resale values are insane at the min. Whichever you choose, your not really going to loose from these cars.
@@Reddylion The Tesla battery will outlast the car, say 4000 cycles at 300+ miles per charge (it’s closer to 350, but I’ll round it down) will take me to 1.2 million miles.
@@jonpetter8921 the USA have Tesla, VW, Ford and Hyundai/Kia in small numbers. What’s in Europe that’s so good? Opel Corsa, Peugeot 208, Citroen Dispatch etc?
Just get the standard 19" wheels rather than the nice looking (expensive) 20" or 21" wheels. You have a longer range, better ride, less chance of tire damage, more tire options, and less expensive tire replacements.
Y’s much better than 3 imo, but I wouldn’t take it over EV6. It has space and boot advantage, but - certainly in UK - I think the Kia will be considerably cheaper and smoother to drive for most!
The Kia over the Tesla for me on just styling alone. Add in the amazing Tech, smoother ride, panel gaps/quality, faster charging and WARRANTY and it's not even close imo..
Really? A matter of personal preference I suppose. Thought I am a Model 3 owner so probably biased! I think both look good, but I like the simpler Tesla lines.
I have a Model Y on order but I currently drive a Kia Optima and I'm familiar with the interior and I can see getting used to the Kia with no problem. But for a multitude of reasons I chose the Tesla. About time I add everything the Tesla already has as standard then I'd be paying Tesla prices. Plus my wife andbi will be talking more road trips and the Model Y just has a little bit more cargo space for us. Even though I'm getting the Model Y I do have the Ioniq 5, EV6 and the Nissan Ariya on my short list of EVs.
Funny how no one talks about voice control on the Tesla. I don’t have to touch my screen that much in the model Y. I can do everything I need to in the car using voice commands like Siri. People are doing reviews and completely overlooked this capability in the Tesla. Made the feature is to advance for them to review
People have been screaming out for better build quality, heads up display and more physical controls for essential features from tesla forever and tesla just doesn't listen. I'd go with anything bar tesla
@@Pipsicle330 Fair enough. I prefer looking out the front clearly and just knowing if there's a vehicle behind and how close. Which I've done fine with saloon cars without wipers for the last 30 years but everyone has a right to their preferences. A rear wiper will stay low on my list of needs..
@@Pipsicle330 You can just look through your cameras. (Tesla Model Y) Go to your center screen and start viewing your 3 cameras. it will take up about half your screen, all be it lets you see through you two side and back camera.
@@sebastianorye2702 Only problem is that in Blighty with our weather the cameras that the car relies on for lane keeping and adaptive cruise etc get covered in water, road grime, and mud, and become all but useless. It’s a car designed in California, not Europe, and it shows.
I still don't understand why people are comparing cars that have quite different prices. She mentions that you need to get a higher spec EV6 in order to get the power tailgate, while it is standard on the Tesla. It's also a hell of a lot more expensive.
I test drove Model Y in the US, and to be honest, Tesla seems to be over using the term Minimalist to justify an absolutely cheap looking plasticky interior.. honestly i felt that the quality of the interiors resembled a low end Toyota Corolla from the 90s. Even the floor mats are of cheap quality. I went with a mindset of expecting a semi luxury car but was gravely disappointed. And the review is bang on for the ride quality. Tesla cheaped out on the Shocks and Struts too, they are using Model 3 parts for a much heavier car. However, the autonomous tech on Teslas is unbeatable at the moment.
From a Model 3 owner for just under a year. The minimalist interior is one of it's best ownership experience features. Love it more the more I drive it. It fairly disappears around you and encourages focus on the driving - and the view of the road is outstanding. Agree on some of the materials - specially the mats which suck - but it's holding up exceptionally well, even with a dog. Luxury can be defined many ways. The interaction with all the controls and features, which continue to surprise, is outstanding and gets better all the time. On 19s, the ride is never harsh but still quite sporting. And ours - and six of our friends who have 3s and Ss, have had NO issues, even one S with a VERY hard 70K miles on it (has been to the track a few times...). The Kia is a very attractive alternative, for sure. But with the charging network, real-world range, vastly superior software-based environment, and literally minor value appreciation, day-to-day it has proven to be outstanding.
I had several Toyota Corollas and Tesla interior is like night and day. I think you are trying to put down Tesla for some reason. I also owned Volvos, BMW, Mercedes and Infiniti so I had experience some of the best the automotive world can produce and I don’t miss any of them….Tesla minimalist interior. Including some of the best seats out there are incredible. I challenge anyone to ride on a Tesla and see for themselves instead of taking someone negative and bias opinion regarding Tesla.
Do you work for KIA? It seems like you just Googled complains with Tesla cars and listed them all. Tesla interview and cars have evolved and improve quicker than you would be willing to admit.
@@Adrb22 Not everyone who has raving reviews about Tesla doesn't make them all Tesla employees, and the same holds true vice versa. Just accept the fact that there are quite a LOT of people who complain about underwhelming ride quality of Tesla and interior quality
I once found the Tesla design outstanding and highly attractive, but after years today it even bores me, seeing white teslas on every corner fron which you can hardly tell if it's M3, MY or MS. At least when looking at the front or the rear. Will Tesla ever come up with a different design? We ordered an EV6, and our decision also was based on the look of both cars.Plus I didn't like the 'tablet' only thing, which is located far away from fhe view onto the road.
We ended up getting the Model Y because of the superior Supercharger network. But we've actually only needed the charger network four times in two years, so considering the premium we paid for the Tesla it's probably worked out as quite a lot per charge!
The EV6 is a sharp looking thing compared to the Model Y, the latter is just a regurgitated 'S'/'3' stretched to suit the class dimensions. I'm sure it's a great car but the exterior design is quite unimaginative.
The thing with the model Y is...that you like the performance and handling maybe 5% of the time....but you feel the ride comfort every single second.... Not to mention some other things, like the utter garbage automatic wipers, no head up display or screen in front of you, it's just...too much.
The model Y is waay too expensive in the UK -- I dont want their finance deal that hides the true cost, I just want to buy the car ! I salute KIA for their build quality and will to beat Tesla at their own game.
@@peepinR I'd assume it's the Tesla, but what do I know. One thing for sure is that it's cheaper to drive per mile/km, as it's more efficient in terms of KW/mile.
Great review, clear and honest as always. Based on the reviews I’d seen, I ordered mine in July and was lucky to be offered an unexpected delivery mid August. (2 weeks time).
Tesla needs to sort out its crap suspension first. Almost every comment or video from an owner talks about it being too stiff. There are tonnes of people installing aftermarket coilovers for 4-5 k. When Tesla fixes this, moves to 4680's, and upgrades to adaptive headlights, it will be a technology leader again. At the moment they are behind the curve technologically.
@@vincentohanlon the suspension is now improved now no one complains, and headlights are also improved, Tesla doesn't take long to upgrade it's vehicles unlike other brands.
Model Y beats EV6 in one important way when it comes to being a family car. It has a high load capacity. EV6 has almost none for a familiy of four or more. Strange how most reviewers miss this. Low load capacity is a weakness for many electric cars. I thought of buying this one, but I might as well keep my Kona longer, as I will not be able to take advantage of a bigger Trump. And I don’t want Model Y, I will not buy another noisy car.
It's actually quite ridiculous how Tesla can let down this car with such poor suspension. They have silly margins, should have opted for a more quality set up.
I fear that the ride will impact sales more than they think when it comes to our bobbly British roads - hope they offer softer suspension for the long range sooner rather than later!
@@XxThEoNlYgAmErxX America is full of crap roads. Doesn't stop Tesla from being popular here. It's not only ride firmness that's the issue with Tesla's ride. It's ride suppleness.
@@benjaminsmith2287 I think US buyers are more forgiving when it comes to poorly made cars. Hence why the wealthy Americans have that phrase “foreign cars” that’s an unknown phrase in the rest of the world
would like to drive the car before deciding how poor the ride is. My Model 3 performance was criticised for hard ride but I found it perfectly acceptable and a lot better than my old BMW 5 series on run flat tyre
Since when is FSD standard on Teslas? Not sure what the prices are in UK, but here, model y with fsd and white interior is 74k vs circa 45k for the basic optionless Kia EV6 the reviewer is driving (it seems like a GT line, but no power tailgate or ventilated seats which are standard on GT line here...)
Whilst I admire the technical brilliance of the Tesla, I just cannot get past the looks which personally I really don't like at all. I worry that with Tesla taking over the world (perhaps rightly so) we will all be driving cars that basically look the same. One of the aspects of being a car lover is having the individuality to have your own car stand out from the rest, at this rate we will all be driving white Tesla's.
I would say that when we reach the point were range isn't a concern anymore styling will make a comeback. If it goes away at all that is, I mean currently only Tesla is doing it. Have to say though I do like the look of the teslas.
Agree the EV6 is dark inside. Kia should offer a lighter vegan leather on the GT Line S in the UK, as well as 19 inch wheels to improve efficiency. The EV6 has a much more UK suitable tight 11.62m compared to the 12.1m, also much of the essential safety and driver assist is included in the EV6 GT Line S.
I agree, the smaller wheels should be an option on the EV6, especially as the wheel size affects range in an EV. I’ve ordered the GT-Line S for the spec but would really rather have it on 19s (and without the sunroof for that matter)
I ordered the Rwd long range in Denmark - the roof inside is light fabric, not dark at all. Gt-line is black though. Different set ups in different regions i guess.
Well, here in the states it might be a different story. I have an order in for a new model Y (AWD, 330mi range, $61,000), but just for interest sake, I checked our local KIA dealer and they had the EV6 GT-Line (AWD, 274mi range) coming in with a sticker price of....$59,945. And I've heard the dealers are marking them up even further. So, there really isn't much of a difference in price between these two comparable models. Having had EV's before (several Nissan LEAF's, a couple of Chevy Volts, and a Tesla Model X) I know the most critical factors in enjoying a road trip experience is range and the reliability/availability of charging. With the LEAF, we had to use Blink or whatever charger we could find, and often you would find them not working or they didn't have fast charging. The Tesla supercharger network solves this. You can pull up maps of every supercharger station in the country, and it will show you how many are chargers are available in real time (we've never had to wait for a Tesla charger). Plus, an extra 55 miles of range is significant if you're on a trip. The primary feature that interests me about the KIA/IONIQ ev's is the two way access to the battery. Not only can you put power into the battery, you can take power out of it, essentially having a free AC outlet if your house power goes out. And 77kwh is a pretty big battery to power your refrigerator or freezer during an outage (a Tesla Powerwall is only 14kwh). That's an amazing feature. Of course you can also use it at a remote campsite, a job site, etc...just don't drain it too far or you'll be stuck there!
I think the issue is that the Tesla is too expensive. If it was a similar price to the ev6 you would get it every time. The software /nav /infotainment is way better and the charging network integration is way better.
Does your model Y have panel gaps (like cheap Fiats) or other imperfections? Definitely, don't like the central information center, should have a speedometer in front of the driver. I am also not a fan of the Y's exterior, but I don't like the EV6 either...watch out for the Genesis GV60!
My Chinese built model 3 performance has impeccable quality. Only the US built ones have quality issues. But there are two things that people who will never buy a Tesla say about Teslas. One is quality, which as mentioned is up with the best now, and the other is the screen. If you don’t like the screen then fine, don’t buy it.
It only should “have a speedometer in front of the driver” because of your constrained thought process. Why should it? It’d be hard to see through the steering wheel, like traditional cars and would impede forward visibility. Embracing change is hard, but it’s what smart people do. The central display is a great idea. My BMW 440 had a tombstone satnav display in the middle of the dash, as did my 140i and my Golf R and so forth. It was lo-res and it had an operating system from hell, but no one ever mentioned it in a review. But Tesla have a central tablet and all hell breaks loose with folk complaining. It just works. Looking 10 degrees askew to the speed reading is no issue at all. Get over it everyone.
Both very nice cars. I'm also 6ft tall and agree that the EV6 cabin feels cramped (a problem that I don't have in my ID3 which has plenty of headroom). But at the moment, neither of these are enticing me away from my ID3 Family Edition which cost less than half the price of these cars, has a full panoramic roof, reasonably good performance and a real world range of 180-250 miles (depending of conditions). If i'm paying twice the price then I will only switch to a Model Y once they are using the next generation of battery tech and WLTP range is in excess of 400 miles. And as the EV6 feels too cramped I will wait for the EV7 and if that has improved headroom, a panoramic roof and upgraded battery tech with a 400+ miles range then i'm in. Otherwise i'm sticking with my ID3. My feeling is that that Tesla will get there first.
The Tesla is a better designed car from the ground up. More efficient, better performance, better frunk and trunk, better audio and software & entertainment in another class. A shame Model Y doesn't come with a softer damper mode, that would have silented reviewers. Maybe the Model Ys from Berlin starting in MArch 2022 will have addressed some comfort short comings. The EV6 is a great car though, just more traditional and not significant potential to become an even better car over OTA updates. Teslas needs more time to understand on why they are the best designed vehicles.
I had no idea they were coming out with a GT version. Depending on the price I think I found my next car. Tesla is just too expensive, I can’t justify dropping 70k on a car thats a hassle to fuel up.
The Y doesn't really live up to the long range status anymore, having a very similar range to the cheapest model 3 which is 13k cheaper. Needs the same battery as the model 3 long range at least.
Do you think it is fair to compare the Tesla Model Y at £55,000 plus to the Kia EV6 rear wheel drive at £40,000 plus? You can purchase the Kia EV6 GT line S cheaper than the Tesla which is more compatible and still cheaper. It’s like you wouldn’t compare a Nissan Leaf to a Kia EV6 as they are a completely different price bracket! Otherwise a good video, thanks.
Oh and 6 months later after owning a Tesla model 3 for 7 months, we are selling it and have put a deposit down on the EV6 Gt which is much cheaper than the model y and faster. It also has cooled seats, a much nicer interior (not plastic), a heads up display which I feel is a must and a big let down on the Tesla, limited slip differential, adjustable lumber on the passenger seat, apple car play and I could go on and on. Also Kia don’t just hand the keys over and let you get on with it! Our new model 3 wasn’t even clean. When I approached them to see if I could fit an aftermarket heads up display in it, they said it would make the warranty void! Then they tell you it doesn’t need servicing……so who checks the brakes or running gear to make sure it’s safe. I suppose you have to rely on your MOT, but it seems a bit of a cop out to me, like they are not interested after they have taken your money. Don’t get me wrong, they are a great car, but Tesla have a lot to learn if they are going to compete long term.
If you want more space there's the Ioniq 5. I think a more sporting version of the Ioniq 5 is to come but sporting isn't the point of these vehicles. Overall, I'm glad you picked the Kia. However, I don't find the Tesla's "futuristic." They have a certain look that I guess I'm familiar with and it's had that look for years (like a large Model 3). They're stark inside. Spartan. The EV6 looks more modern, not necessarily conventional, just more modern. There's nothing that interesting about an interior around a screen, like Tesla has.
It might well look more modern in your opinion but does not add up to the fact that it is. Far from it. A bit like it the same way that it looks faster than it really is. Its fine if you're more into the form over function kind of thing.
@@jsouto77 Modern designs don't have to be stark. The Kia has modern graphics, screens, materials and presentation. It's a different interpretation of modern than Tesla's. I like the Ioniq 5 in a way better than the Kia because it's roomier and that one's form follows function a bit more than the Kia does.
@@benjaminsmith2287 Yes I understand what you are saying but I think that you are along the lines of modern design in the way of eye candy (this is subjective) where I’m inclining towards modern as in technologically advanced. As in one has the appearance or gives the illusion of being and the other being more simple looking but actually being more technologically advanced.
@@jsouto77 I'm into design. Design isn't about mood and atmosphere in a space. I don't want just tech in products And technologically advance is what the Mercedes EQS probably is overall. It has the quietness, ride suppleness, maneuverability due to rear steer and more to make it one of the most technologically advanced vehicles money can buy.
@@benjaminsmith2287 But this is nothing new. Honda had rear steer many years ago and it never caught on. All else is again subjective and does not add to the fact that the EQS is also not efficient as the rest also are not ....Smoking mirrors.
Why do you show plugging into the model Y with a CCS connector on a rapid, but on the same rapid you’re using a type 2 connection on the EV6 which will only give you 11kw rate and not the 50kw that the charger provides when the car has CCS
Considering that A: the model Y has changed out its suspension to be better and B: the model Y is not only the highest selling EV in the UK by a long shot, but also the second best selling car in the UK in 2023. I’d say most people put their money into a Tesla over the Kia.
As a Model 3 owner having watched model Y reviews for the last few months, have to say this has been one of the best. Although disagree with the verdict. Superchargers, software updates (Tesla add new features - all the time), and minimalist styling, plus being a bit of a fanboy - it would have to be the Model Y. If they could only sort out the ride quality
Tesla also takes features away via OTA. like last big update that reduced the navigation and back up camera screen size, prioritizing the useless and distracting car visualizations. Unless you have AP or FSD, most of recent updates have been very underwhelming.
I may buy the ev6 used in 20 years, hope fully the EV infrastructure is better by then or I may go with a Tesla. The audio and climate controls are weird, but I do prefer the physical knob
I chose the EV6. The dual motor AWD version is pretty much as quick as the Tesla, it rides really well, and in my view it's a better-resolved design. In fact, I think it's one of the best-looking cars on the market. But it's great to have a choice between so many really good EVs these days.
Fab balanced review. I am one of the lucky few here in the UK who actually took delivery of an EV6 2 weeks ago so actually have the benefit of having driven mine for over 600 miles during the first 2 weeks of ownership and can firmly report that I am so glad I didn't wait for the Model Y.
I had guesstimated the price of the model Y at around £50k and was staggered to see it is starting at £55k, so by comparison the EV6 is stunning value.
I have the EV6 GT Line RWD for £11k less. What do I gain and lose for my £11k?
Well the Model Y has a bigger boot but the EV6 at 520 litres is hardly small, I can fold the back seats down and have 2m of space to lie down in if I want to sleep in it too. So hardly a huge issue.
I lose AWD, but unless you really need to I'd be paying for something I don't really need (EV6 also has snow mode).
Model Y is faster to 60 but the acceleration on mine is plenty for most people. The EV6 from standstill really shoots off impressively.
What have I gained with the EV6? Faster charging than the Tesla, who would have thought of that a few years ago. And yes I know the fast chargers are limited but at least its future proofed as the network improves. Yes Tesla has the supercharger network and that is impressive but apparently that will be opened up by the end of 2022 anyway, great !
I also gain nicer looks with the Kia (Tesla just sticks to that jelly mould design), far better build quality (I do know a bit about these things, my previous car was an E class Mercedes), a 7 yr Kia warranty, a much nicer ride, superb handling and vehicle to load for those camping trips or a quick brew on a long journey.
I also prefer the more conventional dashboard vs minimalist Tesla. Yes yes it's personal choice but having to move the vents and even adjust the rear seat passenger heating settings for them just feels like a bit of a faff quite frankly.
I fully respect anyone preferring the Tesla, it all depends on your priority, but £11k in my back pocket for a lovely looking, fast charging, well built EV6 with a long warranty, lovely compliant ride and handling is the winner for me. I was worried when I started watching Model Y reviews I would regret my decision to buy the EV6 but all it has done is reassure myself that I had in fact made the right choice (for me 🙂).
Hope you find this interesting and thought provoking.
Very interesting, thanks for the detailed post, you make a good case for EV6 vs Y. On the other hand, if the luggage capacity of the Y was not a necessity, a Model 3 might have been sufficient? It would have been cheaper/ quicker than the EV6.
I would choose the ev6 in rear wheel drive in red colour,such a beautiful looking car so much better looking than the Tesla, I hope to get one of these in a couple of years,plenty room for my mountain bike an camping gear an lots of room for passengers too , I'm on mission to save a big deposit so pay less on PCP finance monthly an get one of these Kia ev6,perfect car an the Mustang Mach e is another one I like but the Kia is 1st choice for me 💚👌👌👍
You also get bi-directional charging, in a few years this is a feature that will likely be standard with EVs, but for now Kia and Hyundai are the ones leading the charge (pun!) with actually having it available.
Well for most people storage and performance are paramount. And so is charging fast and KIA has no Supercharger network. Also the fact that a KIA will devalue in 3 years and be the same car - while the Tesla will be better from OTA updates retaining it's value more. 🚗
I got my EV6 GT Line S AWD just over a week ago after test drives of the Polestar 2 and Ioniq 5. I liked both cars, but aesthetically the EV6 trumps both, especially the Ioniq 5, which looks like it was designed in 1970 (a deliberate choice by Hyundai). I would have test driven a Model 3, but Tesla wanted me to sign an agreement to pay for any damage to the vehicle incurred during the test drive. If it had been written off, even if it was not my fault, I would have been over £50k down. So no test drive and no sale. Having sat in a Model 3, I thought the interior was a bit too plastic and flimsy, and don't get me on the guillotine-like hinge on the rear hatch. In my view, the EV6 is the better car.
Kia all the way for me. Mine’s on order for the new year.
I ordered the KIA EV6 AWD after having tested both the EV6 and the Model Y. EV6 was simply the more enjoyable and better car for me.
I definitely prefer the Kia over the Tesla. The Kia just looks and feels more like a car, whereas the Tesla is a little "Bland" for me. I have ordered my Kia and will have it by February. One thing you noted was that you need to "upgrade" to get the electric powered boot, I have ordered the Earth / Air model and it comes as standard with that.... Good informative review! But by far the Kia stands out for me!
Tesla looks like someone stole the interior!!!😎
We just ordered a Kia EV6 GT-Line S AWD and I can't wait. When I did a test drive it blew me away. Lovely car!
Oh my goodness, Vicky...
You really surprised me with your verdict, I have to say.
I actually thought you were going to be 'blinded' by the infamous "Tesla-factor" - the minimalist look... the performance... the Supercharger network...
So, yeh - I was genuinely surprised that you chose the EV6...
I'd agree, too - as much as Tesla is LEAGUES ahead of everyone else in terms of tech and efficiency and certainly has a brand that's more 'desirable', I'm glad you didn't ignore the unforgiving ride quality for what is, after all, going to be used to ferry kids and old folks about the place.
Spot on verdict... 👍
Yeah you know with proper tires that Kia would never beat the tesla especially in driving quality
Only one company is thinking about the final form ( robots driving us ). Once that occurs, it will be extremely disruptive. Nobody will care about power, looks, interior. As long as it gets you to your destination safely and in comfort. Society has associated their identity to what they drive for 100 years. And that is all going away. Still a few decades away from that IMO.
Just buy it with 19" wheels like I did. More range and comfort. Less "sporty" but who cares.
Efficiency? Kia gets better range, unofficially. It's range is actually understated and is always real while the Tesla is overrated.
@@michaellim4165 That's completely not true. All real world tests show that Tesla has the best range. It is overrated most of the time but still is better
I recently purchased the Kia EV6 GT-Line RWD. I like that it feels more like a modern car instead of a spaceship. I want tactile interactions with things like environmental and audio controls. I want the important driving information in front of me. I’m really liking the heads up display, something that isn’t even talked about in this video.
The Kia EV6 AWD is the perfect reincarnation to my old BMW 530d AWD.....
Quiet
High quality
Quick
Good handling (suspension by the BMW M team)
So I bought one and sold my BMW.
only - its just horrendeusly ugly car inside and outside.
I would definitely buy the EV6 RWD rather than any Tesla. My close friends have Tesla, they all have numerous problems and poor sound insulation at high speed. Life is already tough, I don't need more problems in my life!
@Tony Bebich are you sure because even in the video the model Y is noticeably more loud and the car fidgets to go over bumps as well
If you do not want problems in your life you should wait to take other close friends EV6, so you can make a comparison with them, maybe EV6 will have the same problems or others.
My friends have Kona and it was recalled for battery replacement (because of fire risk) earlier this year.
I had one of the first M3Ps in the UK, and only had a leaky rear light, which they promptly fixed. I doubt any automaker in history could produce what Tesla have done in such a small amount of time.
One of the few reviews I've seen that adequately highlights the ride in the model Y. I test drove one for about 30 minutes, you could chip a tooth going over normal road-bumps in this car.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 quality
Love how they used reg tire on Kia against 21 inches tire on Model Y, then complains about ride on Tesla. 🙄
How can you complain about pushing one button on the EV6 for climate control, but not complain about all things being controlled through the touch screen on the Tesla. Makes no sense.
Exactly. Putting nearly everything on one screen makes it a single point of failure. How will you operate the vehicle if the screen fails?
I agree. Pressing 1 button to get the functions for AC in the KIA, compared to going through a menu on a big “iPad” while driving….uhhhhhh. Tough choice……
@@Kelveron You drive it like every other car and wait for it to get fixed. It doesn't just break, but if it does, you can control your car settings via your Tesla app, and it doesn't impede driving at all.
@@sebastianorye2702 Without the screen: how would you know what speed you are travelling at? How much range you have left? How can you drive in dark conditions without headlights? How about when it rains and you need to use the wipers...etc etc. Using the app (assuming on the phone) is not just a practical option in a lot of situations.
@@Kelveron Good question. Speedometer, climate control, battery percentage, and others are all available on your phone's app as the last resort. The screen really doesn't break, but there is the second option of your phone as last resort...
Great comparision. I was actually choosing between these 2 and really liked both of them. You may call me petty, but since my brother beat me to ordering the Kia, I went with the Tesla.
I highly recommend the 19"wheel/tire option on the Tesla because it makes a big difference over bumpy roads. Keep tire pressure no higher than 40 psi. The test vehicle used in the video had 20" wheels with the thinner tires.
But it's still crap with the 19's...
Agreed …Model Y ride is a huge weakness
@@anttiranki3690 I have the 19's on a 2021. No complaints as long as the tire pressure is at 40 psi. Supposedly the ride is even better on the 2023 with the "Comfort Suspension".
@@rkgsd I test drove the (I think it was the -21 model) with the 19s and it was just agony. Absolutely horrid stuff for a car that (at the time) cost around 65k eur. Now admittedly I don't life in Cali with smooth tarmac all the way. I test drove it in Finland during winter and it was just a teeth shattering experience.
Great review Vicky. Cant believe how many times you had to take your eye off the road in the Tesla to look at the information screen. Keep up the good work.
As opposed to looking down at the instrument cluster on any other car. What's the difference?
@@elawford the Kia EV6 does have HUV Heads Up View.
@@elawford Most new cars have their infotainment screen on top of the dash.
I have a Tesla. The whole thing people witter about regarding the screen is such a non event. No one mentions the OTA updates. The slick supercharger experience, or the fact that they’re the most efficient EV by a mile. Just that you may have to look at a central screen. What an inane comment.
@@andytoddsmith HUD... *Head Up Display*
“It’s a bit of a faff having to switch between 2 functions on the EV6 panel”. On the Tesla you have to switch through the menus to do everything! I think it’s good compromise between screen and actual buttons.
Is she not aware voice commands are a thing in Teslas?
This isn't accurate. All of the controls you need to interact with whilst driving a Tesla are available through the multi function steering wheel buttons. The ethos at Tesla is not to have a button for a control that's rarely used. E.g. Wing mirrors once adjusted are rarely changed so why have physical buttons available?
@@odisy64 The Kia has voice commands as well. Point is, it’s still easier to press a button or twist a knob.
I ferry my friends and family often and I’d rather chat with my mates than with the car.
@@slayergut Tesla's voice commands are the best but i dont think your going to spend the majority of your time switching the radio or opening your glove box. I hate buttons and knobs, i hated when the trend started in 2010 and i hate it more now, there is a reason we got rid of buttons on our phones and replaced them with screens and voice commands.
@@MrQwerty3000 Many reviewers complain about these things as if you have to go 12 layers deep into obscure menus.
There are many "shortcuts" for functions so that you don't have to work through the two layers of menus. The quick access to mirror adjustment is to touch a seat position button. That brings up the selection window for steering wheel and mirror adjustments.
Similarly you can set the wiper mode by tapping the wiper button on the stalk, and then selecting the mode on the screen.
I'd go for the Kia
Nice review. I’ve had my
Model Y for 2 months now, and I love it. But! This review is so true - the suspension in a model Y isn’t very good. I’m opting for an aftermarket coil over to help bring some comfort to the ride. Other than that, it’s a great car!
Mind-blowing to me that I would need to spend 4k on aftermarket suspension after already paying 73k for the car in Ireland. For that reason I had to choose EV6 for now, although Tesla Model Y is my 2023 car when they sort out that problem.
@@vincentohanlon Tesla doesn't have model years, they constantly change. Buy with default 19" wheels. Wheel size is not just for looks.
Tesla has not head up display, why?? This is very important for me, this is such technical problem to be on board??
@@vlat67 there are aftermarket HUDs and instrument clusters if you really need one.
@Wooly Chewbakker no hud projects info outside. What you see is reflection. That's why it doesn't work with polarized glasses for example.
Discounting the times you glanced at the camera in both vehicles, you looked in and down at the display of the Tesla a lot. I believe the minimalist look of the Model 3 and Y has been taken too far with too much focus on that one display for everything. Great when the vehicles drive themselves in the future, not so much at the moment. People still drive cars rather than travel in transportation pods.
I've had a model 3 for 2 years and don't find the screen a distraction at all. You get used to in after about 30 minutes of driving
It takes a drive or two to get used to and then its a non-issue. I haven't heard anyone who actually owns one complain about it.
Ian try it before judging it based on a supposition
Totally agree with Lane Keep Assist. My Tiguan has it and I live in the country. It could get scary at times hence why I turned it off and kept it off.
Kia hands down. For pricing, AND more importantly quality. The Model Y suffers from the same quality issues that still plague the model 3 years after launch. Tesla have the supercharger advantage which is a big plus, but for everything else the Kia.Very impressive, and terrifying for the Germans as well as the Japanese car makers.
Disagree with Tesla “suffering” from quality issues. We received our new Model Y just over a month ago. It is flawless. We have had zero issues. Assembly looks fantastic. Do realize that Tesla doesn’t stand still.
@Tony Bebich You can't beat those Chinese rust buckets cars. 😱
@@getreal7217 Same here. Brand new made in China Model Y. Flawless.
Only the early models suffered build quality issues. It's no longer the case.
Excellent review. Can't wait to see the EV6 on the road in the US. Looks like the ev6 is in the lead for me. I can't see myself joining the tesla bandwagon. The minimalist interior is boring. I think I'd be bored driving it.
I drove the EV6 - didn't like the low speed motor whine, the basic driver display and the inside smell. Otherwise ok but not for me.
So driving something that is like every other car is not boring?? Note that the DRIVING is what sets Tesla apart from this KIA and other EVs It will snap your head back and handle like a Porsche. You sound like you'd be happier in a Korean car though. I'll stick to the highest rated car in Consumer Reports history. USA made Tesla. 🚗
@@cuda426hemi I currently drive a MB and it's nothing like every other car. I'm an old lady now and have had too many cars to even count and porshe-like isn't what I'm in need of. I'm buying in 2023 so by that time I expect MB will have a comparable SUV and I'll likely go with that over Kia or Audi. My husband always goes with US manufacturers for his trucks and after it's paid for, we always have to get rid of them. Sorry but quality and comfort is primary for me. Neighbors own teslas model 3's. I've rode inside them and the interior doesn't compare to MB. I wish telsa well because it's manufactured here, but we're in a global economy and competition is a wonderful thing!
@@bratin1215 MB IS like every other car - and to prove it you have no problem entertaining a Korean car. You are kicking tires - that's okay, but MB will suffer the same growing pains VW is going through while Tesla just keeps iterating - take for example MB has had 10 years to match Tesla and they still haven't matched them in any metric - power, range, OTA updates, software Full Self Driving - none of it. I wish you luck. 🚗
Vicky is always great to watch. She's a straight up fantastic presenter. And I also agree with her choice. I drive a Kia Optima today and even though it's not a powerhouse, it's a great car to drive.
When it's ev time for us, this comparison will be where we will be.
Your always welcome to visit us here in Canada Vicky.
love the ending...low tone..fade away...."if it were alimony...we'd be taking the kia" you pretty much dropped the mic and walked away! Bravo!
The 20" Induction wheels make for a terrible ride. We have two Model Ys and we made sure to get our second one with the 19 inch Geminis and the ride is substantially better.
Why do you have two? I wanted to get one for our family car but after renting one out, I wanted to drive off a cliff. I found it to be a very stupid car and don't get me started on thr quality.
@@didiermejia780 I don't believe you about your comment, quality comment again, not true, don't make stuff up. Yes the ride is too hard and it is too wide for European roads, but don't make other stuff up.
@@Tom55data I never mentioned anything about the ride quality. I prefer a stiffer ride over a bouncy one. What I said is the build quality is horrible. The materials are poor and the fit and finish are poor too. The car does not feel like a 50 car should. My civic has better quality.
@@didiermejia780 if you criticize a car as being “a very stupid car”, I’d suggest you’re even more stupid. Teslas are known for being the most advanced AI software car, no “smarter cars”.
@@clu4u might have advance software, it's still a stupid car. I mean, why do you have to use the touchscreen to open a glovebox, or adjust side view mirrors, or unluck the doors, or adjust ac vent direction? These are all decisions tesla made in the name of form over function and that is why it's is a stupid car. And again, the quality is so poor.
Great review and really fair I would say as they are both obviously very good cars. Personally, I dont like Tesla styling whilst the Kia looks fantastic to me - that alone would get my money. The fact that its also a really really good EV is the knockout blow.
Should have tested the GT-line AWD vs the Model Y. It’s a bit more comparable in terms of price and features. Even then, the Tesla is $6k more expensive than a fully optioned EV6 in the GT-line trim and that’s a base spec model Y with no FSD/EA. I chose the Kia after driving both. The tech is great on the model Y, but at that price point the model Y should be better appointed to compete in this evolving market.
I have seen a lot of people in the us changing the suspension on the model Y. I don’t think Tesla changed the suspension from the 3 to Y. They just made it stiffer to handle the weight.
I saw rich-rebuilds converting an S model to be ice with a Chevy V8 in the fruit-frunk, sequential gearbox a drive-shaft + rear differential and Vibrant exhaust ..
BTW super swap very cool build it was presented at SEMA few days ago.. ;0)
If I had to go ev........I would have the Kia
I have driven electric cars since 2013 from Nissan Leaf and Kia E-Niro to now Tesla Model 3. I have reservations for Model Y and CyberTruck. Buying any EV is a win, choose what ever suits your use case, your style and your budget. The Kia is an excellent car indeed, but for performance and tech, I’m enjoying the Tesla at present. Tesla resale values are insane at the min. Whichever you choose, your not really going to loose from these cars.
Ok what about battery degradation etc…
@@Reddylion The Tesla battery will outlast the car, say 4000 cycles at 300+ miles per charge (it’s closer to 350, but I’ll round it down) will take me to 1.2 million miles.
@@commuterbranchline8132 nice.
You don t have many alternative in the US while in Europe there are many great EVs....
@@jonpetter8921 the USA have Tesla, VW, Ford and Hyundai/Kia in small numbers. What’s in Europe that’s so good? Opel Corsa, Peugeot 208, Citroen Dispatch etc?
Probably taking the Model Y but definitely swapping to smaller wheels and maybe tune the suspension. At least on UK roads.
Just get the standard 19" wheels rather than the nice looking (expensive) 20" or 21" wheels. You have a longer range, better ride, less chance of tire damage, more tire options, and less expensive tire replacements.
It's just not good enough that you need to upgrade the suspension on a MY after spending so much money to buy the car.. Tesla needs to sort this out
@@vincentohanlon they definitely do. esp as they grow into new markets.
Y’s much better than 3 imo, but I wouldn’t take it over EV6. It has space and boot advantage, but - certainly in UK - I think the Kia will be considerably cheaper and smoother to drive for most!
Not to mention much better build quality and reliability. Kia was ranked #1 by JD power for 5 years in a row for most reliable auto manufacturer.
The Kia over the Tesla for me on just styling alone. Add in the amazing Tech, smoother ride, panel gaps/quality, faster charging and WARRANTY and it's not even close imo..
KIA EV6 looks much better!
Really? A matter of personal preference I suppose. Thought I am a Model 3 owner so probably biased! I think both look good, but I like the simpler Tesla lines.
@@dadjv1926 Nah. There are some good looking KIAs out there but EV6 is not one of them.
The Model 3 and Y design looked really futuristic. But now it’s really starting to show it’s age. Compared to the new EVs coming out.
The future ain't what it used to be.
I have a Model Y on order but I currently drive a Kia Optima and I'm familiar with the interior and I can see getting used to the Kia with no problem. But for a multitude of reasons I chose the Tesla.
About time I add everything the Tesla already has as standard then I'd be paying Tesla prices. Plus my wife andbi will be talking more road trips and the Model Y just has a little bit more cargo space for us.
Even though I'm getting the Model Y I do have the Ioniq 5, EV6 and the Nissan Ariya on my short list of EVs.
Funny how no one talks about voice control on the Tesla. I don’t have to touch my screen that much in the model Y. I can do everything I need to in the car using voice commands like Siri. People are doing reviews and completely overlooked this capability in the Tesla. Made the feature is to advance for them to review
People have been screaming out for better build quality, heads up display and more physical controls for essential features from tesla forever and tesla just doesn't listen. I'd go with anything bar tesla
Great review! You really nail describing the feel of the cars in a relatable manner.
All that money and neither can wipe rain off the rear window.
And neither can cook your breakfast either. Deal-breaker!
@@rlc2978 I’ll manage to cook my own breakfast. But I want to see out the rear window of my car when it’s raining.
@@Pipsicle330 Fair enough. I prefer looking out the front clearly and just knowing if there's a vehicle behind and how close. Which I've done fine with saloon cars without wipers for the last 30 years but everyone has a right to their preferences. A rear wiper will stay low on my list of needs..
@@Pipsicle330 You can just look through your cameras. (Tesla Model Y) Go to your center screen and start viewing your 3 cameras. it will take up about half your screen, all be it lets you see through you two side and back camera.
@@sebastianorye2702 Only problem is that in Blighty with our weather the cameras that the car relies on for lane keeping and adaptive cruise etc get covered in water, road grime, and mud, and become all but useless. It’s a car designed in California, not Europe, and it shows.
I still don't understand why people are comparing cars that have quite different prices. She mentions that you need to get a higher spec EV6 in order to get the power tailgate, while it is standard on the Tesla. It's also a hell of a lot more expensive.
Thanks for the comprehensive going-over on both.
I test drove Model Y in the US, and to be honest, Tesla seems to be over using the term Minimalist to justify an absolutely cheap looking plasticky interior.. honestly i felt that the quality of the interiors resembled a low end Toyota Corolla from the 90s. Even the floor mats are of cheap quality. I went with a mindset of expecting a semi luxury car but was gravely disappointed. And the review is bang on for the ride quality. Tesla cheaped out on the Shocks and Struts too, they are using Model 3 parts for a much heavier car. However, the autonomous tech on Teslas is unbeatable at the moment.
From a Model 3 owner for just under a year. The minimalist interior is one of it's best ownership experience features. Love it more the more I drive it. It fairly disappears around you and encourages focus on the driving - and the view of the road is outstanding. Agree on some of the materials - specially the mats which suck - but it's holding up exceptionally well, even with a dog. Luxury can be defined many ways. The interaction with all the controls and features, which continue to surprise, is outstanding and gets better all the time. On 19s, the ride is never harsh but still quite sporting. And ours - and six of our friends who have 3s and Ss, have had NO issues, even one S with a VERY hard 70K miles on it (has been to the track a few times...). The Kia is a very attractive alternative, for sure. But with the charging network, real-world range, vastly superior software-based environment, and literally minor value appreciation, day-to-day it has proven to be outstanding.
I had several Toyota Corollas and Tesla interior is like night and day. I think you are trying to put down Tesla for some reason.
I also owned Volvos, BMW, Mercedes and Infiniti so I had experience some of the best the automotive world can produce and I don’t miss any of them….Tesla minimalist interior. Including some of the best seats out there are incredible.
I challenge anyone to ride on a Tesla and see for themselves instead of taking someone negative and bias opinion regarding Tesla.
Do you work for KIA? It seems like you just Googled complains with Tesla cars and listed them all. Tesla interview and cars have evolved and improve quicker than you would be willing to admit.
@@Adrb22 Not everyone who has raving reviews about Tesla doesn't make them all Tesla employees, and the same holds true vice versa. Just accept the fact that there are quite a LOT of people who complain about underwhelming ride quality of Tesla and interior quality
Performance wise its more fair to compare the model Y with the GT Kia. Especially when you see the higher price of the model Y
I once found the Tesla design outstanding and highly attractive, but after years today it even bores me, seeing white teslas on every corner fron which you can hardly tell if it's M3, MY or MS.
At least when looking at the front or the rear. Will Tesla ever come up with a different design?
We ordered an EV6, and our decision also was based on the look of both cars.Plus I didn't like the 'tablet' only thing, which is located far away from fhe view onto the road.
Great review , this I surely a further mainstream breakthrough , and serious alternative to Tesla
I will take the EV6 any day its a clear winner by far compared.
One day Vicky will do a video without saying "A bit of a faff"! Love it!!
We ended up getting the Model Y because of the superior Supercharger network. But we've actually only needed the charger network four times in two years, so considering the premium we paid for the Tesla it's probably worked out as quite a lot per charge!
The EV6 is a sharp looking thing compared to the Model Y, the latter is just a regurgitated 'S'/'3' stretched to suit the class dimensions. I'm sure it's a great car but the exterior design is quite unimaginative.
The thing with the model Y is...that you like the performance and handling maybe 5% of the time....but you feel the ride comfort every single second.... Not to mention some other things, like the utter garbage automatic wipers, no head up display or screen in front of you, it's just...too much.
Did not know that the Tesla Y had 3 regen modes. Maybe you should check again?
Price is important. Base EV6 model sounds good.
The model Y is waay too expensive in the UK -- I dont want their finance deal that hides the true cost, I just want to buy the car ! I salute KIA for their build quality and will to beat Tesla at their own game.
First impressions, the Kia has it on looks. Now let's pay attention to the rest of the video...
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In regards to what?
Agreed. The Kia looks much nicer to me. I’m curious which of the two will be cheaper to maintain though?
@@peepinR I'd assume it's the Tesla, but what do I know. One thing for sure is that it's cheaper to drive per mile/km, as it's more efficient in terms of KW/mile.
Thank you for not ducking an opinion on which car is better!
Sorry but...the Kia EV6 GT-Line for me !
Comfortable, Quieter interior & cheaper.
Kia would be my pick as well.
cheaper but literally in every way worse , also teslas hold value much better, if i buy that expensive car i just go with model y.
Love that Tesla Y
Thanks for this great comparison! Would be even better if you get access the AWD GT-Line S version of the Kia EV6.
The 2nd cubby under the boot is for the loadbay cover.
Great review, clear and honest as always. Based on the reviews I’d seen, I ordered mine in July and was lucky to be offered an unexpected delivery mid August. (2 weeks time).
Hope you enjoy it!
This comparison will be a lot of fun once Tesla fits the 4680 cells on the Model Y.
Tesla needs to sort out its crap suspension first. Almost every comment or video from an owner talks about it being too stiff. There are tonnes of people installing aftermarket coilovers for 4-5 k. When Tesla fixes this, moves to 4680's, and upgrades to adaptive headlights, it will be a technology leader again. At the moment they are behind the curve technologically.
@@vincentohanlon have you seen Bjorns headlight test of the ev6? The Model Y is way better.
It will be even more fun once Toyota comes out with a car that has solid state batteries.
@@vincentohanlon the suspension is now improved now no one complains, and headlights are also improved, Tesla doesn't take long to upgrade it's vehicles unlike other brands.
Where Tesla is miles ahead is in entertainment/software the fact you can use RUclips, Netflix and play games is next level
Model Y beats EV6 in one important way when it comes to being a family car. It has a high load capacity. EV6 has almost none for a familiy of four or more. Strange how most reviewers miss this. Low load capacity is a weakness for many electric cars. I thought of buying this one, but I might as well keep my Kona longer, as I will not be able to take advantage of a bigger Trump. And I don’t want Model Y, I will not buy another noisy car.
It's actually quite ridiculous how Tesla can let down this car with such poor suspension. They have silly margins, should have opted for a more quality set up.
I fear that the ride will impact sales more than they think when it comes to our bobbly British roads - hope they offer softer suspension for the long range sooner rather than later!
@@XxThEoNlYgAmErxX America is full of crap roads. Doesn't stop Tesla from being popular here. It's not only ride firmness that's the issue with Tesla's ride. It's ride suppleness.
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@@benjaminsmith2287 I think US buyers are more forgiving when it comes to poorly made cars. Hence why the wealthy Americans have that phrase “foreign cars” that’s an unknown phrase in the rest of the world
would like to drive the car before deciding how poor the ride is. My Model 3 performance was criticised for hard ride but I found it perfectly acceptable and a lot better than my old BMW 5 series on run flat tyre
Thank you! Really good review with lot of information!
Much awaited comparison.
Another excellent review 👍🏾. Can I ask you to create a separate bev playlist?
Thank you for your kind words. We do have an - electric car - playlist available where we add in any new BEV cars.
Since when is FSD standard on Teslas?
Not sure what the prices are in UK, but here, model y with fsd and white interior is 74k vs circa 45k for the basic optionless Kia EV6 the reviewer is driving (it seems like a GT line, but no power tailgate or ventilated seats which are standard on GT line here...)
Whilst I admire the technical brilliance of the Tesla, I just cannot get past the looks which personally I really don't like at all. I worry that with Tesla taking over the world (perhaps rightly so) we will all be driving cars that basically look the same. One of the aspects of being a car lover is having the individuality to have your own car stand out from the rest, at this rate we will all be driving white Tesla's.
Range is king. You're going be seeing many cars looking like blobs soon. Tesla cars look better than what Mercedes-Benz are producing now.
I'm with ya, I just don't like the look of the Tesla's from the front.
One word: Wrap
I would say that when we reach the point were range isn't a concern anymore styling will make a comeback. If it goes away at all that is, I mean currently only Tesla is doing it. Have to say though I do like the look of the teslas.
@@KyleHubb Range is not absolute. Europe most sold EV last year was Zoe with relatively less range.
Agree the EV6 is dark inside. Kia should offer a lighter vegan leather on the GT Line S in the UK, as well as 19 inch wheels to improve efficiency. The EV6 has a much more UK suitable tight 11.62m compared to the 12.1m, also much of the essential safety and driver assist is included in the EV6 GT Line S.
I agree, the smaller wheels should be an option on the EV6, especially as the wheel size affects range in an EV. I’ve ordered the GT-Line S for the spec but would really rather have it on 19s (and without the sunroof for that matter)
@@mancsaint what’s wrong with the sunroof?
@@joey-pn3xe it eats in to headspace in the front.
@@mancsaint ah I see
I ordered the Rwd long range in Denmark - the roof inside is light fabric, not dark at all. Gt-line is black though. Different set ups in different regions i guess.
The ev6 is such a beauty
Great review thank you so much!
Well, here in the states it might be a different story. I have an order in for a new model Y (AWD, 330mi range, $61,000), but just for interest sake, I checked our local KIA dealer and they had the EV6 GT-Line (AWD, 274mi range) coming in with a sticker price of....$59,945. And I've heard the dealers are marking them up even further. So, there really isn't much of a difference in price between these two comparable models. Having had EV's before (several Nissan LEAF's, a couple of Chevy Volts, and a Tesla Model X) I know the most critical factors in enjoying a road trip experience is range and the reliability/availability of charging. With the LEAF, we had to use Blink or whatever charger we could find, and often you would find them not working or they didn't have fast charging. The Tesla supercharger network solves this. You can pull up maps of every supercharger station in the country, and it will show you how many are chargers are available in real time (we've never had to wait for a Tesla charger). Plus, an extra 55 miles of range is significant if you're on a trip.
The primary feature that interests me about the KIA/IONIQ ev's is the two way access to the battery. Not only can you put power into the battery, you can take power out of it, essentially having a free AC outlet if your house power goes out. And 77kwh is a pretty big battery to power your refrigerator or freezer during an outage (a Tesla Powerwall is only 14kwh). That's an amazing feature. Of course you can also use it at a remote campsite, a job site, etc...just don't drain it too far or you'll be stuck there!
I charged ny e-Niro on a Tesla Supercharger yesterday outside of Amsterdam. 😊
Good presentation. Thank you!
I think the issue is that the Tesla is too expensive. If it was a similar price to the ev6 you would get it every time. The software /nav /infotainment is way better and the charging network integration is way better.
Does your model Y have panel gaps (like cheap Fiats) or other imperfections? Definitely, don't like the central information center, should have a speedometer in front of the driver.
I am also not a fan of the Y's exterior, but I don't like the EV6 either...watch out for the Genesis GV60!
The central screen takes some getting used to. After a while it’s not a problem.
“Spectrometer”, I don’t think that word means what you think it does. 😜
I see the problem, corrected.
My Chinese built model 3 performance has impeccable quality. Only the US built ones have quality issues. But there are two things that people who will never buy a Tesla say about Teslas. One is quality, which as mentioned is up with the best now, and the other is the screen. If you don’t like the screen then fine, don’t buy it.
It only should “have a speedometer in front of the driver” because of your constrained thought process. Why should it? It’d be hard to see through the steering wheel, like traditional cars and would impede forward visibility. Embracing change is hard, but it’s what smart people do. The central display is a great idea. My BMW 440 had a tombstone satnav display in the middle of the dash, as did my 140i and my Golf R and so forth. It was lo-res and it had an operating system from hell, but no one ever mentioned it in a review. But Tesla have a central tablet and all hell breaks loose with folk complaining.
It just works. Looking 10 degrees askew to the speed reading is no issue at all. Get over it everyone.
But tell me about the controls, or lack of, in the Tesla please
Both very nice cars. I'm also 6ft tall and agree that the EV6 cabin feels cramped (a problem that I don't have in my ID3 which has plenty of headroom). But at the moment, neither of these are enticing me away from my ID3 Family Edition which cost less than half the price of these cars, has a full panoramic roof, reasonably good performance and a real world range of 180-250 miles (depending of conditions).
If i'm paying twice the price then I will only switch to a Model Y once they are using the next generation of battery tech and WLTP range is in excess of 400 miles. And as the EV6 feels too cramped I will wait for the EV7 and if that has improved headroom, a panoramic roof and upgraded battery tech with a 400+ miles range then i'm in. Otherwise i'm sticking with my ID3. My feeling is that that Tesla will get there first.
The Tesla is a better designed car from the ground up. More efficient, better performance, better frunk and trunk, better audio and software & entertainment in another class.
A shame Model Y doesn't come with a softer damper mode, that would have silented reviewers. Maybe the Model Ys from Berlin starting in MArch 2022 will have addressed some comfort short comings.
The EV6 is a great car though, just more traditional and not significant potential to become an even better car over OTA updates. Teslas needs more time to understand on why they are the best designed vehicles.
Great review just drop that annoying "Music" in the background. I nearly turned off half way through as it was grinding my cogs.
The Genesis version will be the GV60; the 3 800v electrics were all tested together.
Not sure when the Genesis will be available in the USA.
I had no idea they were coming out with a GT version. Depending on the price I think I found my next car. Tesla is just too expensive, I can’t justify dropping 70k on a car thats a hassle to fuel up.
Can you please post the ground clearance?
The Y doesn't really live up to the long range status anymore, having a very similar range to the cheapest model 3 which is 13k cheaper. Needs the same battery as the model 3 long range at least.
Yeah, I know, but it's a quite bit bigger. Hopefully, the new 4680 cells help with this tho... (In the future)
@@sebastianorye2702 they can just fit the same pack that is in the model 3 long range for starters.
I feel you missed a trick here, they are family cars so...... do they have back seats?
How do you manage to review two cars marketed as “SUVs” and not discuss ground clearance?
Do you think it is fair to compare the Tesla Model Y at £55,000 plus to the Kia EV6 rear wheel drive at £40,000 plus? You can purchase the Kia EV6 GT line S cheaper than the Tesla which is more compatible and still cheaper. It’s like you wouldn’t compare a Nissan Leaf to a Kia EV6 as they are a completely different price bracket! Otherwise a good video, thanks.
Oh and 6 months later after owning a Tesla model 3 for 7 months, we are selling it and have put a deposit down on the EV6 Gt which is much cheaper than the model y and faster. It also has cooled seats, a much nicer interior (not plastic), a heads up display which I feel is a must and a big let down on the Tesla, limited slip differential, adjustable lumber on the passenger seat, apple car play and I could go on and on. Also Kia don’t just hand the keys over and let you get on with it! Our new model 3 wasn’t even clean. When I approached them to see if I could fit an aftermarket heads up display in it, they said it would make the warranty void! Then they tell you it doesn’t need servicing……so who checks the brakes or running gear to make sure it’s safe. I suppose you have to rely on your MOT, but it seems a bit of a cop out to me, like they are not interested after they have taken your money. Don’t get me wrong, they are a great car, but Tesla have a lot to learn if they are going to compete long term.
Popular among those that can afford it.
If you want more space there's the Ioniq 5. I think a more sporting version of the Ioniq 5 is to come but sporting isn't the point of these vehicles. Overall, I'm glad you picked the Kia. However, I don't find the Tesla's "futuristic." They have a certain look that I guess I'm familiar with and it's had that look for years (like a large Model 3). They're stark inside. Spartan. The EV6 looks more modern, not necessarily conventional, just more modern. There's nothing that interesting about an interior around a screen, like Tesla has.
It might well look more modern in your opinion but does not add up to the fact that it is. Far from it. A bit like it the same way that it looks faster than it really is. Its fine if you're more into the form over function kind of thing.
@@jsouto77 Modern designs don't have to be stark. The Kia has modern graphics, screens, materials and presentation. It's a different interpretation of modern than Tesla's. I like the Ioniq 5 in a way better than the Kia because it's roomier and that one's form follows function a bit more than the Kia does.
@@benjaminsmith2287 Yes I understand what you are saying but I think that you are along the lines of modern design in the way of eye candy (this is subjective) where I’m inclining towards modern as in technologically advanced. As in one has the appearance or gives the illusion of being and the other being more simple looking but actually being more technologically advanced.
@@jsouto77 I'm into design. Design isn't about mood and atmosphere in a space. I don't want just tech in products And technologically advance is what the Mercedes EQS probably is overall. It has the quietness, ride suppleness, maneuverability due to rear steer and more to make it one of the most technologically advanced vehicles money can buy.
@@benjaminsmith2287 But this is nothing new. Honda had rear steer many years ago and it never caught on. All else is again subjective and does not add to the fact that the EQS is also not efficient as the rest also are not ....Smoking mirrors.
Charging rate is impressive on Kia. Wonder when Tesla will switch to 800 V
Why do you show plugging into the model Y with a CCS connector on a rapid, but on the same rapid you’re using a type 2 connection on the EV6 which will only give you 11kw rate and not the 50kw that the charger provides when the car has CCS
If your interest is in a family car then it’s no contest because of safety, comfort, and all wheel drive, who owns that TITLE as record TESLA.
EV6 all the way
Considering that A: the model Y has changed out its suspension to be better and B: the model Y is not only the highest selling EV in the UK by a long shot, but also the second best selling car in the UK in 2023. I’d say most people put their money into a Tesla over the Kia.
As a Model 3 owner having watched model Y reviews for the last few months, have to say this has been one of the best. Although disagree with the verdict. Superchargers, software updates (Tesla add new features - all the time), and minimalist styling, plus being a bit of a fanboy - it would have to be the Model Y. If they could only sort out the ride quality
Tesla also takes features away via OTA. like last big update that reduced the navigation and back up camera screen size, prioritizing the useless and distracting car visualizations. Unless you have AP or FSD, most of recent updates have been very underwhelming.
Sadly, Kia only offer Apple carPlay wired... not wireless like other vendors. Hopefully, an over the air update will fix that...
I may buy the ev6 used in 20 years, hope fully the EV infrastructure is better by then or I may go with a Tesla. The audio and climate controls are weird, but I do prefer the physical knob