Why We Are Leaving AirBnb | What We Are Doing Instead
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- Today we share why we are leaving AirBnb and what we are doing instead.
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We have been using AirBnb for just over five years in our early retirement, full travel lifestyle and we have seen some things that have made us rethink using this service. We will share what we have begun to use alternatively and will continue to use in the future.
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That is why I've never trusted Airbnb! As a single woman traveling solo on occasion I felt safer in a hotel.
Exactly.
I've been burned twice for 2 different Airbnb and once at a Vrbo. All with very bad hosts. Hotels are always your best option, clean and safe.
I’ve gone back to staying in hotels. Too many questions (and questionables) with Airbnb these days. These days hotels are offering great rates, convenient locations, around the clock services and security. Many are much cheaper than an Airbnb stay without the crazy fees and do it yourself everything. I like having friendly staff around more than suspicious or unaware occupants of a residential building.
Where are the hotels that are $45 per night with all these services?
Where do you find the time to stay in all these hotels ?
We travel full time. AirBnb is far superior to hotels in every single way. You normally get a full kitchen, a much larger living space, and FAR cheaper. When you book by the month on AirBnb you usually get a huge discount. You also have to staff in your room "cleaning". We also always pick a place with an outdoor space.
Hotels are for business travellers and people who like to spend lots of money on vacations eating out.
I loved the early days of AirBnB, less fees. Now high cleaning fees, and just extra random Airbnb fees. They have become a Ticketmaster.
Rental shortages in big US cities can be attributed to Airbnb.
Part of the problem? Absolutely, but it's way more complicated than just saying ABNB is the cause.
One of the many things i love about all your channels is you provide great information. You are not looking for partners or looking for sponsors etc. I follow all your channels and enjoy them all.
Thanks so much! We appreciate your kind comments!
My husband had a 1 year work assignment in Cincinnati, OH which paid for us to to stay in a Marriott Residence Inn for that year. That of course gave us Platinum status. We like to travel several times a year and have not had to pay for a room in over 5 years. We also have enough points to gift stays for our grown children from time to time. We can’t say enough good about the superior service of the Marriott service!
That's very awesome!
We had nine Marriott vouchers, ea good for a night's stay, but they would not let us gift them to anyone else, not even close family. We were unable to use them ourselves so they were completely wasted. Marriott showed zero flexibility about this. Boo!!!
The concept of Airbnb was a good one but a downside was that it removed housing stock from the local market in some cases. I remember being in Barcelona several years ago and the protests from the residents were intense. BTW, we were staying in a hotel.
I LOVE practical information like this. The way you communicate is so clear and to the point. Much preferred over some of the other rambling ones I've watched on travel. Thanks.
Awesome, thank you!
My only other Air bnb was last summer (2023)when my daughter & I met to visit each other for the first time since Covid lockdown (she's now working in Japan) in the Santa Fe area. We rented a whole house/Casita in Lamy,NM. It was a short distance outside of Santa Fe. Much cheaper & quieter than if we had rented in Santa Fe. We had rented a car since we planned to tour around. So it wasn't a problem staying in the countryside. It was beautiful.
Yeah, you two are doing a great service as travel officianados. I appreciate the clear and direct presentation. A few more graphics will help perfect it but definitely in the top 5% of this top of video. Keep it coming😊
Thank you for this. Its so annoying when travel bloggers only mention airbnb, and so many people like myself absolutely detest them, so its not helpful and just remind us how airbnb has screwed us over.
I have found better alternatives traveling thru france that come to $45-55 a night consistently without all the extra fees, and a cleaning depending how long you stay, with a kitchenette. Airbnb isnt even price competitive anymore.
Ive actually enjoyed going back to hotels.
AirBnB does not rent property or set the prices .
@makeyourlifeeasier5794 The owners can set any prices they wish including whether or not they charge cleaning fees . Don't post bullshit lies
@@makeyourlifeeasier5794 I never said the cleaning fee was the only Airbnb fee ,learn how to read . Airbnb charges a listing fee to use their website to access customers . The owner of the property is free to pass on these fees or not . The owner can also add a cleaning fee or not its their choice They can choose to use any other one the other similar sites such a VRBO or they can create their own website , they can just rely on word of mouth .
Airbnb is one of many tools a property owner may use to market their property . Clearly you have no idea of how short term rentals are operated.
I use Airbnb for weekends or 4-5 day stays. Haven’t had any issues, but I do mix things up and also stay in hotels, hostels and regular bed & breakfasts.
ALSO the exorbitant cleaning fees on TOP of the cleaning list you’re having to complete before leaving - so what the heck is that fee for?! Great info as usual, and I’m now making a list of which cards to apply for first so there aren’t too many credit checks or cards in a short time frame.
Great idea!
Other travel vloggers I follow are also abandoning Airbnb.
Many who have done that is because there is no partner program to create revenue if you are a content creator. It's all driven by income streams. We use air bnb a lot, and also book longer term short term rentals. We travel full time. In most lower cost countries you can rent easily a place by just showing up and asking some people who's got a place for rent.
Rob and Allie: you folks create excellent, informative videos.
Thanks so much!
I no longer enjoy or trust Airbnb. In the early days, the properties were lovely and the owners made sure to include nice amenities and other comforts. The last one I stayed in? Single ply toilet paper! The shower curtain was ripped and off hooks. A terrible mattress and pillows. Plus I had to take out the garbage! I’m done. People got greedy as is human nature, amd ruined the whole thing. Also, as a solo traveler, the idea of people putting cameras in their spaces really freaks me out. No thanks.
Thank you, really great info!
Glad it was helpful!
great post! truly informative
Glad it was helpful!
GREAT information!!!
Thanks!
Thank you Rob and Allie this vid has been so helpful to me! 😊
You are welcome!
Great video. I like that you start with positive experiences before dealing with the negative.
Thanks!
Great video. Thanks!
You're welcome!
Great info. My sister and I spent a week in California in two different areas. Though there were attractive AirBnB options the cancelation criteria was impossible so we booked some nice Marriott properties as a result. I purchased IHG points years ago on a sale and it made my NYC hotel stay about 20% cheaper. Great reminder, I will have to look at their CC.
Thanks for sharing!
I/we love you channel. Amazing information. We just retired, a little early, but not as early as you. I wish we could travel with you to learn all these amazing places to travel to. I have my calendar set up for 11-11 that I learned from you in another video. We would love to travel to Vietnam, Japan, and Indonesia. Keep traveling and keep posting. Thank You.
Wow. My experience with Airbnb has been EXACTLY the opposite. I’ve stayed in MANY over the past 4-5 years and all have worked out well for me except for one. In that instance, I called Airbnb, raised hell, got my money back and went across the street to a hotel for almost the same money. In my experience, the cost of hotels in the USA far exceeds the costs of airbnbs. Europe seems to be a different story…I was able to find great hotels in Europe for a LOT less than in the USA. But even the few airbnbs I rented in Belgium (including a room in a castle) were cheaper than comparable hotel rooms.
I feel the same as you. I've had far better experiences with airbnb than I've ever had with a hotel. I also appreciate the homey feel of airbnb. It's important to read reviews, look for super host, and review their cancelation policy before booking. I even go to Google earth and look at the area before booking as a safeguard. Even if the host is in another area of the rental (separate quarters), I'd rather that over a hotel with multiple people, noise, and no clue who they are.
This is awesome info! Thanks so much for doing all that research...and yeah, I know, you're working on setting your own life schedule, but it's wicked cool to get the info from "professional travelers" who are making it all work. For me, I might be looking at that Marriott AX card....I do have their Bonvoy Visa and already had Lifetime Gold, but the extra perks at Platinum Elite would be nice too. Don't travel as much as I used to....I hope to change that soon!
Awesome! We are going to get the Amex Brilliant too, but are waiting for a good bonus to come along. I think this months is 95,000 points, which isn't great. The status will be amazing. We've been getting upgraded every time just with gold, so platinum would be great!
We are also full time travelers and pivoted away from airbnb a year ago. Excellent video.
Cool, thanks!
You may have solved something of a mystery for me. I live in San Francisco, and I was pretty sure that someone had an AirBnb because there were often cars with out-of-state license plates parked on our block for long periods of time. If the AirBnb system is being phased down, that may explain why that doesn't seem to be happening nearly as often.
Wow; more great information to make an informed decision when traveling.
We are excited to do more hotels this year!
What a great and informative video. Thank you. Next, look at the individual cards and hotels. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
great video as usual thank you we backed away from air bnb too it was getting too much.
Thanks!
always have good tips and tricks
Thanks!
I like the strategy!! I don’t generate referrals so accruing the points fast enough needed for regular extended hotel stays is not really an option on a long term basis for me but using cards like the CSR on AirBNB stays to generate points that can then be transferred to travel partners for hotels stays seems like a good hybrid approach. Thanks for the great content!
Thanks! Yes, transferring CSR to Hyatt is a great value usually.
Our first Air bnb was in Seoul, South Korea when my daughter was working there. We searched & read reviews on hotels in that area. We found that most hotels there were old & musty AND they really controlled the A/C (& their idea of A/C was really HOT for us Americans (my daughter had warned me because of what she endured at work!). We had never done Air bnb before. So she helped us find a really new/modern apt in a 3 year old building-- near subway, bakeries & even a 3-story McDonald's across the street (that had a fleet of scooters so heart attacks could be delivered!! 😂) It was a great experience & we could control the A/C-- even though we were instructed to turn it off when we left the building (only did that once!).
I have used Airbnb 3 times in the past year ( Iceland, Curacao and PA) and every time it was a horrible experience. I honestly feel like people that like Airbnb must have stayed at motels because even basic hotels treat people better.
I found Hyatt to be lacking in many cities forcing one to not stay in their preferred network frequently. With the new Marriott acquisitions, I feel like they're well placed, and available everywhere, and it doesn't hurt to have automatic Gold status with Amex Platinum. So my preference is Marriott, Hilton, IHG in that order.
Municipal bodies are reacting to local hoteliers and making life difficult for "genuine" hosts but that just leaves you with unsavoury criminal type organisations who use this as their laundry. I've binned AirBnB. They know who pays their bills now and they seem unsurprised when you point out that your "hosts" are none of the people they claimed!
Have you looked at all into Trusted Housesitters at all? My friend found it fairly easy to get good reviews doing several local pet sits - now she doesn’t pay for accommodation at all - many of the house sits that she has done have been very low maintenance regarding caring for someone’s pet - she has deliberately chosen those sits so that she has lots of time to explore the area.
We have some friends who do it, they seem to like it.
If you book through the Delta Airbnb portal, you can get Delta miles....if you want them.
Best of luck! Hope to welcome you in the future at our Beach Hotel in the Philippines once completed in a year. Have a great weekend!
Thank you!
I love using travel points for hotel stays. Hilton diamond member here and just went cross country via Amtrak and stayed at the DoubleTree hotel in San Diego and Settle Hilton for free with points and free upgrades and evening complimentary wine beer soda and snacks (cheese and fruit tray and hot appetizers . I use my Hilton Amex card to get points .
The Embassy Suites in Seattle is awesome too!
Encredible... Encredible.
Thanks!
Stayed 3 nights in an airbnb in Rome. I would have preferred a hotel with a restaurant and amenities.
We stayed at the Hive hotel there, it was very nice.
That deal he was describing in Japan where it all comes out to $40 a day is cheaper to live on than the expenses I have daily being an apt renter here in NY. I have often times paid more than $40 a day just for groceries as a single person.
I think the challenge is the inconsistency. We are not seeing discounts for longer stays and if there are discounts they are not much. Also we have been seeing additional cleaning charges for mid stay cleaning services that we are required to pay - sometimes 2x a week.
We use airbnb because of the long stay discounts. It depends where you are going and how much the owner is willing to discount it. We travel full time, always staying for over a month in one spot and we save a ton of money doing it that way. Average monthly costs for us are very low.
Hotels for the win! 🎉
Interesting that you are not pursuing status with Hilton. I recently secured the Hilton Aspire card in order to have their Diamond status.
Your video is great for contemplating a secondary hotel ecosystem for status 👍🏽
We actually do have the aspire and Diamond status, but, we just find in Asia, the places we go, the redemptions take a lot more points. So, I think we will eventually get rid of it. It's hard to find a Hilton under 10,000 points.
My first experience with AirBnb was in a South American country. We only booked with SuperHosts. The first place was great! The 2nd place was a 2 bedroom. It did have 2 bedrooms and 2 beds. Just no linens for the 2nd bed (we got there about 11pm so, we didn't realize until really late). The next morning, we saw the mildew on the shower curtain 😞 It was the weekend and there was nobody at AirBnb to talk to so, we just booked other accommodations. The 3rd place was nice but smelled musty. It wasn't until we were packing to leave and I tried to open a window that we noticed the mildew on all the window! AirBnb asked if we had contacted the host during our stay. The host said he never had complaints before.
Not sure how some of these places are SuperHosts.
It seems AB&B are causing rental availability problems in Australia. State government's are talking about hitting them with a extra tax. One state may have already passed the required law.
Great video - you have a new subscriber🎊❤️ I totally agree that to get a good price with Airbnb it is beneficial to book for 28 days+ and book early but….. I booked a couple of weeks ago for a stay in UK in 8 months time . When I pressed the reserve button Airbnb took the full price for the month - there was no option to split the payment. I took it to their customer services as a complaint - which proved fruitless. Their customer service was very non personal , you have to wait a couple of days for a reply and each time you end up dealing with a different (but very polite) customer service person. My understanding is that the Host does not get any of the money until you have checked in. Therefore I assume AirBnb will be getting the interest on any monies ! So it has put me off AirBnb and I will explore hotel loyalty programmes and see if that would provide me with another option. 😊❤
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Be thankful you are from the US and have all these programs available to you. As an Aussie we have nothing like this so I guess we’ll just have to stick with Air BnB as annoying as they are 😂
You are allowed to use these programs as well
@@GroundedLifeFinances The loyalty programs yes - but we don't have all the credit cards linked to these programs, which is really where you get the benefit.
It would be VERY interesting if Airbnb started doing loyalty points. I honestly think that would be a game changer and have more folks use the platform.
We do too
I so wish I could leave AirBnB but with a traveling family of 5 that stays a month at a time hotels aren't that great an option. I wish hotels would cater a portion of their room stock to families. I heard Marriott is running a deal for families where you book two rooms and the second room is 50% off the first room's rate.
Yes, in that situation it would be different. That would be great if they do.
I’m in an air bnb in Bangkok right now. For cleaning, just go downstairs to the juristic office and hire the maids who clean the building to clean your unit as well.
As usual, your video is informative. We’ve just had our first Vrbo experience as a family coming together from 3 different locations, and will soon have another. The cancellation possibility and cleaning done by host were major reasons we used them. A hotel, especially in this upcoming rural area, wouldn’t have worked nearly as well for us. I understand this was not about Vrbo. Do you use them?
AirBnB is awful when there is an issue and you want to talk to Customer Service - they usually don't speak English well and don't get involved. I don't think they check the homes before they go live. I rather stay in a hotel and not have any issues to have to resolve while traveling.
I recently got confirmation by airbnb that they no longer keep the service charger after you cancel 3x.
I had a career with Marriott (Event Manager). GO MARRIOTT!!!!
Awesome!
I've only done AIRBND one time in NY. It was a nice stay, but after I returned home, I was informed that the host, who was the son of the actual owner(his parents were the owners and lived in Jamaica)was arrested because the place was not up to code and the owner was not on the premises. I was mortified. The AIRBNB people would not address it. I've never stayed with them since.
What difference did it make to your stay ?
@@sarahann530 exactly. Zero.
@@sarahann530 going forward they cannot trust air b&b to have good properties or even reply to them.
Another great video. We are also moving away from staying in Airbnb It's not the deal it once was and we like our privacy. I will be retiring in five years. I would like to check out some of these locations for 2 week stays as a preview to future plans. Which country, city, hotel would you recommend to start with? My husband likes modern comfort. AC and WiFi are a must. Thanks for any advice that helps me get started. I am so excited for the adventure to begin.
I understand what you guys are saying about Airbnb and why hotels would be more attractive but my issue is if you are travelling long term wouldn’t you miss the homely feeling that you can get in an Airbnb (not all airbnbs of course) that you don’t get in a hotel. In an Airbnb you get the opportunity to cook your own food. I get tired of eating out all the times and think I would need the kitchen and laundry facilities that come with an Airbnb. Interested to hear your thoughts 😊
Some of the hotels we will stay at will be like the Springhill or Staybridge Suites that come with a kitchen. In some countries in Asia we really don't cook much as the Airbnb's don't usually have ovens anyway. It just isn't their culture. It'll be interesting to see how we like it.
Fantastic information on the subject on Hotel cards. We are retired and plan to do some traveling. I see that you love the far east and have gotten some great deals. Question I was wondering if you plan on going to S. Korea for a visit?
We are hoping to in 2024
That is why I rather get a hotel room for a week or so.
I have an IHG card and platinum status. I've found mixed reception. Some places recognize the status and make you feel welcome. Some are more like, "whatever." Guess I'm not far enough in yet.
The reception isn't as good in the US because so many have the card there.
@@GroundedLifeFinances That makes sense. Thanks
Great videos, thank you 🙏🏻 I’ve been trying to do the hotel rewards system but note that the cards you talk about are all dollar based. Can I get an IHG (and others) here in the UK? It seems Chase/IHG are American only?
The Airbnb fee is rediculous now. They need competition.
Yes, they are high
Did I miss any discussions on being able to cook your own meals being one of my reasons for long term stays with Airbnb? Also long term stays living in a hotel room? Thanks
How do you juggle all those cards?
I had terrible two experiences with Airbn . One I. Mexico the place had mold all over and was trash everywhefe. Airbn told me look asap for another place in my own that’s it. The owner who don’t lived in the area Apperantly didn’t know about the conditions. He refunded the money and the property was shut down. I have to look on my own for a new place. Other was in Hungary Budapest . I arrived and the bedding sheet tells are dirty . Pictures didn’t match to the property at all. I made pictures send to Airbn but they didn’t do anything. I looked for a new place and fight for my money through my credit card . After 5 months I got bank my money but again not from Airbn.
Both cases Airbn baled out protect or helping me.
Yuppp the downfall of Air B&B is happening now and hotels are improving!!!
If you acquire points on the credit cards, is there an expiration on the time you have to use the points?
How do you deal with laundry when staying at hotels instead of airbnb?
I don't like Airbnb, mainly because of the people who run it rather than the hosts. I know it's supposed to be cool and out of San Francisco since only 2008, but it's overrated. The rates they display when you get into the website are misleading. Airbnb and the host tack on so many fees. With what you end up finally paying, you won't save any money compared to a hotel. In a dispute--and I had a few with less than candid hosts--Airbnb will stick up for the host, not you, even when you're clearly in the right. I'm not that hard to please, but I can't abide dishonesty. I can rough it occasionally. There have been reports of some hosts using hidden cameras and listening devices. Save yourself a lot of money and trouble and rent from a traditional hotel. Airbnb is a problem waiting to happen. RB
Is there any chance you could do a separate video on IHG and Hyatt. I am very intrigued by the value proposition but I dont understand the context. For example, if I retired today and was about to start my journey (hopefully May 2025), am I entitled to any of the benefits such as eating at the hotel, etc., when first starting out. Let's say I book 30 days at an IHG property, what are you entitled to during your first stay or are these benefits only realized after reaching your top tier loyalty status? Thanks so much, congrats on your success and enjoyment.
You would need to earn them the first year by staying a certain number of days or having the credit card.
I have a question, do you travel to France? If you do where would you say the best hotels to stay at are please
When people sign up through your affiliate links, is that considered a referral?😊
You both should spend some time in Medellin. It’s very reasonable to live here.
We've only been there for about 2 days, but we did like it. We spent a few months in Santa Marta a few years ago and loved that!
I've heard some really good stuff abt it too
Driven global increase in prices. Europe bargains linked to local prices…no more. Thanks Air BnB
Is there a specific way on these hotel websites to find just the multi-room suites with kitchens that would be actually comparable to airbnb? There's no way my husband and I can work in the same room when we're both on meetings big chunks of the day, and our health could not withstand hotel food as primary sustenance.
There are, we can talk about it on our live stream tomorrow.
If you own a rental and have been screwed over good…ties of seeing these people that may but usually don’t live in the community they are buying homes and apartments and renting them as a vacation spot.
Schools and businesses are CLOSING because they have no local residents. Jobs are lost and other schools are effected.
So not a fan. Think the location is huge and for someone’s personal gain to close down schools and businesses. Sad the greed Americans have.
Are these amazing deals at IHG hotels overseas only available if you reserve the room far in advance? Thanks!
They can be had most of the time
Have you seen that VRBO is now part of Expedia loyalty program?
Yes, but they devalued the whole program when they switched it to One Key. You don't earn near as much as you used to. You used to get basically 10% back with hotels and now it's around 3%, so we moved on.
Does the free breakfast come with the card benefit or do you have to stay a certain amount of nights?
It depends on the card and the program, they are all very different
So am I right to say your strategy only works for Americans? I don't think other countries offer credit cards with a bunch of rewards, definitely not in Europe.
You can use the points programs but not the same cards, some countries have other cards, country by country.
I grew up in FL & GA & when you said Athens, I did at first think of UGA 😂. What can I say, I’m a Bulldawg 🤷🏻♀️
I love hotels.
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Yeah! Airbnb way overpriced.
It can be lately
Do you consider Accor’s royalty program?
We don't stay in them enough
I am going to be travelling a lot next year as I am retiring early. I was considering Airbnb because you can cook your own meals. I wondered if you spend a lot of money for eating out??
It depends where you are, in Asia it is cheaper to eat out, but in North America, much cheaper to cook.
@@GroundedLifeFinances I thought so. This is the same in Europe as prices have risen extremely. If you are travelling for something like a month it’s not really feasible to eat out daily as it’s not just expensive but also difficult to eat healthy. So Airbnb?.
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How are you handling laundry in long hotel stays?
Most of them have a laundry room, so we do it in the hotel.
Just curious. You show 8K nights at Crowne Plaza in Hiroshima. All I can see is closer to double than that. Are you getting a discount for being Platinum status?
He said he books 9 months ahead for best deals.
@@saversavvy2670 Thanks! I missed that!
Do you get a special deal with the points? When I look at ANA Hiroshima it is between 13k and 19k points per night.
You get a discounted points rate if you have the IHG premier credit card.
@@GroundedLifeFinances Do you have any hacks for people outside the US to get these cards?
Which IHG resort in Bali did you stay at?
Grand Hyatt and Hyatt Regency are the ones to look for
I live in azores are you guy ever planning on visiting?
We were there this summer!
Once I saw air bnb owners can legally film you, ill never use them again. I don't need some weirdo taping my wife or I changing for "saftey", and then charging us 500 bucks cleaning fee for the pleasure of it
Wouldn't AirBnB's affiliate program be roughly equivalent to the hotels' loyalty programs, since you have a large RUclips audience now?
They don't have one
What if you're a cook and really want a kitchen? I really want a kitchen
It's country specific, for instance in a lot of Asia the Airbnb's don't come with ovens anyway. But here in Malaysia we have one.
Marriott has suites that have full kitchens
Airbnb is a big contributor to the housing crisis. It can go bankrupt for all I care