Summary: I think it's much better for 2k to give both parties (sim and comp) what they want separately than to find the middle ground and let both parties play using one slider. Sim and Comp are just 2 different worlds. Happy Holidays everyone!
Agreed. The problem is the cost. The community would be far more forgiving if it didn’t cost so much to make builds to play the game. As the greed has gotten worse, so has the game!
@@seanh8095dvd's and gaming are the cheapest forms of entertainment - you dont have to buy the battlepass, but it is unfortunate 2k rewards pay to win, new generation of gaming
The real issue, which only was slightly fixed in 2k23, is the Left right Cheese. You cant say the game is realistic when you play against it. Literally left right dribble cheese with the vacuumed screens is the most unrealistic BS in the game which is why I'm confused on why they made shooting realistic but not the dribbling or screen mechanics. No one is doing that in real life without getting tired or losing the ball.
I just think Mike Wang needs to find another profession because I don’t know if anyone else notice. But he is the same guy that was doing NBA live games at one point and now look how NBA live turn out now he’s over here doing the same thing to 2K. I really hope that this is his last 2k. People play the game to have full control over whatever happens not random animations and the Devs randomly playing God with our jump shots and other things that’s not fun or fair.
Live went down after he left, though, and he was at 2k first. Like 2k7 and 8 then he left went to live and left there in like 2010 last live game before that dumb nba 11 elite and beyond. Nba Live 10 was the last decent one with Dwight on the cover
You all misinterpreted; Wang only made one NBA Live game, Live 10, which was financially successful and considered the best NBA Live ever. Then he returned to NBA 2K. He literally made every 2k from 06-25
@killar3g he left 2k in 2007-08 and signed with EA like I said, then left there and went back to 2k like I previously stated and I liked live 10 hated when he left because I didn't like 2k
@ no he actually didn’t leave until live 11 which is live elite which was by far the worst game they made he did both 2K 11 and live. That was his last game.
The thing with “making it easier to shoot” is they would HAVE to make defense and the contest system better. 2k23 last gen is what I played in 23, and that contest system felt amazing other than some inconsistency’s in the interior. But you had people shooting 60%, but good defense could shut them out. That’s almost impossible this 2k.
Facts stop trying to nerf the offense and making the game dull when the problem is defense sucks… they keep trying everything under the sun when ppl are going to find away around it regardless what you do.
Ppl who are talking about real life Steph Curry 3pt percentage, the NBA has defensive schemes and Steph is not shooting all of his shots WIDE OPEN! Most of the time, his shots are HEAVILY CONTESTED. You let curry take every shot WIDE OPEN and he’ll shoot 70% for the season.
The main issue is the servers. I just played Marvel Rivals and the servers are butter! I've played hundreds of games with zero lag, zero disconnects, zero issues. 2k refuses to invest in their servers.
I ALWAYS thought this was EXTREMELY simple. Make park Arcadey. You already have specific dunks, passes, celebrations, attire etc. make rec sim. Best of both worlds
i think they're on the right path, new dribble engine, new smooth animations, rhythm shooting, once they fine tune these things out i think we'll get a good product. I don't think the game should 'make' ppl having a similar % rating than the NBA, thats just ridiculous. If you can time it then you should be able to hit it. Call it RNG, call it random animations, 2k really went overboard with that stuff this year..
There’s 3 different shot timings and yall are still complaining about this game. There is a ranked mode in this game. It’s called pro am and proving grounds. The Content creators that are crying about this game, they don’t play defense. They just expect you to miss while expecting that they make everything. So, this would not be a fix. This doesn’t even make sense.
I think the release speed alternating was a great idea, adds more skill and realism. But if they add such mechanics they have to fix release queues to coincide with EACH green window. Servers and input lag fixes would probably make 2k feel a lot better as well. Even maneuvering in the city feels more delayed than games made 20 years ago
almost no one shot 75% maybe a couple hundred people?? huge myth in the community, they are creating the game to patch the 1% that’s ridiculous 🤣 those guys played against people not on they level, like myself i was in rec an avg that. top players were in the 60s just like every other 2k 🤣 in the golden era 2k i shot lower %s than these newer supposed sim 2ks😂 the funny thing is som guys prefer the same 2k as arcade guys🤣 if they made a 2k where it required skill to shoot they’d be all shooting 10-20 % while the goats would be shooting the top possible. what they really want is a casual 2k with no skill gap but still want the top to stop shining so much, they don’t realize if you make 2k easy we go absolutely crazy. they need to be okay with people they’ll never play shining tbh. this is a good idea but the problem is mike wang don’t want my side to exist he’s sike if it that’s why he’s done what he’s done
I shot 75& up from 21 til now.. 25 won't really allow me to. (63%) But the fact it was rare for players to consistently avg that high% ? Excluding the cheaters.. made it the best skill gap
Here is the fix: -Open shots you time go in -Covered shots drastically reduce make % (legendary deadeye let’s you make light contests consistently) -Bring back last years dunk meter -Make floaters viable
Just for clarification. I said that because in a basketball game based on real players shooting “real” percentages shouldn’t ruin the gaming experience. I like the reality of even if I’m “perfect”I still might miss because that is what makes the sport enjoyable in my opinion. For whatever reason if people don’t like that then that’s fine and maybe 2K should have a “street” style game with arcading things such as 70-80% 3 point percentage. I personally wouldn’t find it fun and that’s ok. Just have 2 separate games.
Great video. I love the solution and I think if people would put their feelings aside for 2k, that solution would work perfectly. I hope 2k watches your vids man.
Great vid, Tutes. I think they're leaning the way you described and this year was the first attempt. They're definitely experimenting with the sliders and introducing "randomness" as a factor. I feel like they maxed gameplay mechanics last year and when people still complained, they focused on giving each sector of the community its own space this year.
You need to be a game developer because this is very much needed I HATE THIS YEAR 2k I shot so well on 2k24 but shoot terrible on 25 I don’t enjoy ts at all
Make Rec, Theatre & Starting 5 for Simnation. ProAm & Park for Comp Proving Grounds can be a happy medium but leaning more to comp. Events should be comp sliders. And let us play myCareer with friends on the same NBA teams incase the game is dogsh**
There are so many aspects to this game. You have the ability to control an entire team and be strategic. Why does shooting, which is only one small part of the game, determine your opinion?
Mike want already said he wants to bring shooting percentages down. You don’t enjoy the game because you can’t shoot with a 99 3 pt rating? Thats a you problem
Perfect game for me would be realistic movement with dribbling, less deep outlet passes so there’s more half court offense games, less passing lane steals on the perimeter, reduced screen effects, and more balanced rebounding where 1 player on the team isn’t getting all the rebounds. Then shooting, dunks, layups should be timing based where the green window is effected by attributes, badges, defenses badges, and contest. This would be a good balance between sim and comp.
ITS A VIDEO GAME!….IF U KNOW YOUR SHOT IT SHOULD GO IN. 2K DOING TOO MUCH, RNG CAUSES UNNECESSARY NEW BUILDS AND NEW JUMPSHOTS. REGARDLESS OF AGE OR GAME PLAY 2K IS A COMPETITIVE GAME AND RNG IS TIPPING THE SCALES. RANDOMLY AT THAT SMH.
i disagree fam its 12 year olds who know their jump shots in previous 2ks and suffer from main character syndrome.Players need deeper bags and take better shots !! I rarely see miss jump shots when you know your shot and its a good one
@ YOUR PROBLEM SEEMS TO BE THE RANDOMS, NOT THE RNG LOL. PAYERS “BAG” HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RNG, ITS LITERALLY MAKING U MISS BECAUSE OF PERCENTAGES. IF U KNOW UR SHOT IT SHOULD GO IN.
@@YourFavoriteCoolCousin you disagree that because a child has muscle memory and can time his shot that it was ruining the game see this is the damn problem you yall are trying to make this game weird because you couldn’t guard a child? Main character syndrome??? Everyone is allowed to shoot high percentage or not that’s not gonna change how this game is constructed please just play for yourself stop commenting
@@Tahs_TV these the mf bruh “skill issue” a bag has nothing to do with this game being hoe he’s admitted he used to get cooked by children now the game is bail out city so he’s better
So no one will play rec anymore? The most sensible way woud be arcade=rec, park, theater / simulation=pro-am, proving grounds, nba offline (with option for arcade).
with how many game modes there are, the player base is already spread out kind of thin. if they divide it even further it could make it tough to get games quickly which was apparently already an issue with the proving grounds. i think they could just make rec theatre and park the arcade/casuals modes and have pro am ante up and proving grounds as your comp/ realistic modes.
I thought that this is what they were trying to do. But a lot of creators are crying about the game wanting it to be more arcade. 5v5 should ALWAYS BE SIM STYLE, those creators want 5v5 to be unrealistic/arcade too. They can go to the theater or park for that arcade NBA Jam style shit.
Listen to this big. I made a 5’9 pg 185 lbs and the only body types I get are big bulky guard styles. Even on normal I look like a 250lb linebacker… it’s just crazy, I just sent it to 2k so they can try to figure it out.. I’ve seen my identical build with a smaller framed players body so it doesn’t make sense that it’s not available for me even though I have all my workouts done
This is a great idea but they need to reduce some of the other modes because the player base is already split between so many different places park rec proving grounds starting 5 etc
I agree to the fact that the best players in the nba (and so our MP’s) doesn’t need that much space to knock down shots, but man defense is so weak compared to offense in this game. I have a 99 perimeter lock who get stun animations guarding pgs with
Somewhat serious question. Is NBA 2k a streetball game? Cause all the videos ive seen on this game, no one is playing on an NBA court, its always some streetball court or rec.
All they need to do is make builds free, and actually grindable like other games. Yeah you should still have the option to buy VC if you want to skip grinding your build, but it shouldn’t be required to actually have fun on the game. If they fix this 1 issue, then 2k may be saved.
That’s what they are doing now in their heads this is that All they did was make the grind unbearable so your forced to spend money or actually play this trash
It’s not hard to figure out both sides slick want the same thing, if I time my shot correctly let it go in regardless of coverage… shooting is the biggest sticking point because it feels like you are literally being lied to about your timing. And on defense fix rebounds and paint defense… that’s simple
That might be a great solution. I actually like this years game. I guess I’m just not a complicated person. If I miss shots I’m trying something else to help the team win. I hope they make a nba street game for the ppl who just want unrealistic animations
Make steals right stick only! The easiest fix for this game has been staring TakeTwo in the face for years, and instead they have to release a bunch of patches every year: Make stealing skill based, using the right stick, exactly as the right stick currently functions - you reach in the wrong direction, you don't get a steal. This tiny fix will completely fix passing lane steals, and make the game more friendly to passing and movement. It's such a simple fix, it's bonkers they didn't do it years ago!
I disagree with the person here 0:29 Passes stunning defenders is something 2K added to make sure players couldn't "guard 2 people." That's the opposite of simulation Ankle breakers at random and pump fakes making you jump is more arcadey than anything They patched the steal thing but that was just steals being overtuned. Nothing to do with simulation If you're missing shots that you "timed right," you didnt time it right. If you don't hit 100% of your shots in practice, don't expect to hit 100% in game Personally, I would say anything in between is the best. Have aspects of both, but don't lean too far either way. A couple changes either way and we have a great game
BEEEN SAYING THIS FOR THE LONGEST!!!! I would only add that people make a bunch of builds each year anyway so limit a build to the type of playstyle they choose. So at the beginning, I would assume everyone would make a arcade player as they are learning the game and their build and THEN they can make their better build for simulation.
I had suggested awhile back on Reddit last year just before 2K25 that they stop game development for “current gen” and split the game into simulation and arcade.
IMO some gaming studio has to invest money on making a Park only game mode, I mean it should not be that difficult it has been done in the past. Once 2k has some competition then they will make adjustments.
Mike Wang has flat out cooked the game. I get him and Ronnie cop it every year no matter what but this game is AWFUL. Put the green window back. They've added moving windows and cues yet still won't let you green every shot lmao. Even if you LEARNT every timing and release you still won't make the shot. That's the problem. Just turn off being able to green in general and make everyone shoot on real player shooting profiles. And I'm not even talking about low 3 point builds. If you have a high as 3 ball, if you're good enough, you should be able to make every open shot. And why do they not know how to patch and buff badges? They either buff it to the moon or kill it completely. And why is the paint defence always cooked every single year? And why do animations affect your attributes and player more than the actual attribute? If I have on a different motion style and have more speed than the next man, he's still faster though because he's zooming like Alex Caruso. The game is chalked. I'd happily take McGrady heavys in the mouth on 2k24 over this flip a coin game lmao.
It's a video game. If you have 99 3pt, take a wide open srand still shot from normal 3 range and time it well, you should make that shot 99% of the time. If I'm about to get boxed out, and I sprint the other direction, I shouldn't get sucked into their back and be forced to stand there.
You cannot have a competitive basketball game where people can shoot over 66% from 3. It breaks the maths of the game, if you shoot 67% from 3, then your points per shot is greater than 2; making EVERY SINGLE 2 point shot a bad shot. Literally, a wide open dunk is a bad shot, because even if you make it at 100% that 2 points per shot, where as a 3pt shooter shooting at 70% is scoring 2.25 points per shot. The guys wanting "Competitive" style, either don't understand basketball, don't understand maths, or both.
I think the game should be simulation because it's NBA 2K, the comp players dont even want anything NBA, they just want Arcade basketball. There was another 2k game for the 2K League, that should be the answer for comp players and should be available to more players
I don't think you can divide up the community like that. We'll be waiting for matches forever. I think people just need to accept each game is going to be different. Some games I can't miss, some games all bricks. Almost always if I'm shooting poorly like 3-10 or something, my team mates are also shooting like 3-10. I'm shooting about 40% from 3 w/ my 6'11 with an 83 3-ball. Weird dynamics like if I wait to shoot while I'm open I miss more often. You should be rewarded for taking your time. I don't know how to fix it.
Whether it’s RNG or Attributes/Badges contrasting and creating different odds based every player match up remains insignificant. The game itself is based off inconsistent play which creates players questioning themselves leading to new builds, boosts and time on game. If it creates increased monetary gain. Then it’s a win. It’s never based on quality. It’s exactly why the servers have no improved over a decade.
Rng isnt totally bad. Someone with a 60 three ball/60 rebound should still be able to do those things now and then. However, there should be less rng the higher your ratings are. A 99 three ball should have almost no rng. A 99 perimeter d should drastically reduce offense’s effectiveness. Something in the middle like 85 passing should only throw bad passes when off balance or when there is no passing lane. Basketball is a random game at times but elite professional players can definitely consistently do the things they are good at. Curry is probably not going to miss an open 3. A contested one maybe but not open. 2k should allow some randomness otherwise players with lower ratings will never be able to beat players with higher ratings in certain areas, but it should not be overwhelming. Ratings/positioning/openness/etc. need to matter more.
I don't agree with that solution because it further divides the community. Sim players have no problem playing MyCareer but in order to get upgraded (rep) rewards they have to play online. The Sim community would be fine if they could earn those rep rewards without playing online. My suggestion: only MyCareer and Rec are sum while all other modes are arcade. This way all Sim players get all their entertainment in a 5v5 setting and without online play. All "comp" players have arcade gameplay without having to worry about Sim players
Despite all the bs we deal with… and this might be a hot take… but if you look pass the bs the game is actually really fun. My main issues are the people who play like idiots, certain gameplay aspects and matchmaking.
I agree with what 2K is trying to achieve with more realistic outcomes, but I think it's just the implementation that is being done poorly. When it comes to shooting, for example, the way they've introduced this randomness feels bad because the game always PRESENTS it as YOU screwing up by being late or early. This causes confusion and frustration because you don't know if it really was your poor timing or the game that caused the miss, and it gives you this helpless feeling because you don't know how to do better, or if you even can. My hot take: No more greens or guaranteed makes for people to expect. Everything's white and well timed shots are simply more likely to go in along an appropriate curve based on attributes/heat/etc. This would make it feel natural and better, and less like a video game with frustrating mechanics.
Yep. Take greens out if they want it to be realistic (even though myself and majority of people are against it.) Or make it if you time your shot correctly, it can still miss like how they did in older 2ks.
The ONLY problem with this idea which I agree could work, is that they need dedicated servers & they will never do that. Until they create those, 2k will continue to be the same thing every single year.
They don’t need to add a new server for that. It’s just like a new room. You know when you quit my career and when you enter again then suddenly you're with different set of players? that's like a new room.
Community complains so much its insane. The goat shooters, shoot 50% wide open in games. The best defenders get 2-3 steals/blocks a game. The best ball handlers get 2-4 turnovers a game. Everyone thinks they're the goat so i hurts their egos to fail, but if you play within yourself, this is one of the best 2ks ever (minus the macrotransactions). It rewards consistently taking good shots throughout the game, not spamming dribble moves and corner fades while your teammates die of boredom. In the long run the rng matters less and the people who take better shots, win more games
2k25 isn’t HORRIBLE. Its inconsistent. ProPlay has turned this game into an animation fest, the sliders are tuned awfully to where 2k actually MAKES you miss. Go green 4 shots in a row if you even can and watch how the 5th shot is a very early or very late.
If they would have listened to my suggestion about the builder being similar to 2k14 n 19 and also add a online mycareer where u can face up to 29 different friends all competing for championships mvps endorsements n others den we wouldn’t b here also reverting the badge system to 2k13 where u have 6 badges total from hundreds where u can buy with vc to the max badge s
take in Stephen Curry’s shot percentage when there’s no defense on him. he’ll probably make 9times out of 10. now to fix that problem in 2K, make perimeter defense mean something. if you do that, you probably would see it getting closer to 40%
The attribute system this year is disappointed, especially the cap breaker system. Most of the teams in 3 vs 3 game contain a guard with a 99 3pt rating and over 90 steal rating, a forward with 99 perimeter defensive rating plus a 99 steal rating, as well as a center with 99 rebounds rating and 95 strength and over 90 rating on block. Its actually boring to face this kind of team.
That’s not 2k fault though lol ppl have been doing this for years. That’s how most content creators get their content. Making little guard builds that only hide behind screens to shoot and then he has 2 teammates who sit in each corner with high defense.
Ive said it before ill say it again • get rid of visual records get rid of visual stats get rid of visual overall everyone gets anonymity other then their gamertag nobody should be brushed off based solely on not looking like they're good enough ive met plenty of 79-85 overalls much smarter and team oriented then 95+ players • stop with the city bs just make a park and make a bunch of courts, make all stores for shoes tattoos and clothes be purchasable from the pause menu i dont need to run to some store. And while their ata it add discounts for vc perchanceable items by playing on item spacific courts like a tattoo court or a shoe brand court by keeping a streak 10 game streak gets you 50% off 20 streak gives you 100% Something along those lines • add the jumpshot meter back shots are way too randomly slow or speed up how are you supposed to get your shot right if you dont know when to let it go other then visual cues that barely work i hate making a great play and messing it up cause i greened my release timing but my rythem was too fast always upsetting • and last but biggest stop with forced animations i couldn't count how many times ive crossed someone up they're behind me he isn't even looking at me anymore and as im doing a layup i get the dude i just crossed sucks me into a contact animation that leads to a smothered shot or a block for zero reason and dont get me started and swatted ally oops tell me why i saw Chauncey Billups jump 5 feet in the air standing still Sorry for the rant its just the game could be so much more enjoyable
WHAT IF. the cap breaker is a sham. 94 3ball + 5 cap breaker for badges is just 94 with legend badges🤔 the 99 attribute is a placebo effect. I may have to try this
The way this game just dictates your animations and your shot timing is straight up highway robbery to the consumers. Each game feels different, I don’t even know what to expect when I play. I’ve spent considerable time learning my jump shot in each shot style and I wish I never did. I tried making another build just to play a different style and I increased shooting to have hall of fame and legend badges and ended up shooting worse than my original build with a 78 3pt and 85 middy. I don’t even care about winning, I just want it to make sense and that’s on me thinking 2K ever would care about the game play after they get your money.
No u have to factor what makes most money. People under 18 will spend way less then someone older and older players want more skill where u have higher rating and know ur time u can green 60% plus
There should be levels to rng in like pro am and proving grounds competitive and rec and theatre should be more arcade l! They have like 5 different places to play make the sliders different for each place
Just makes the game arcade based and make a center in the city there tht have more simulation properties. Get rid of the unnecessary animations.the overall game should cater to arcade. Ppl will play both
Hard Dividing a community is never the solution.. Worst thing 2k can do is to make two seperate servers(IN EVERY REGION).. Just let the simulation players shoot with R% in multiplayer modes and tweak it accordingly..
Good defense better offense if you time that layup right and green it you should make doesn't matter if that player jumped to contest you, same for shots etc thats realistic you see it in the nba and in streetball, also most shots nba players take are contested aswell, so curry for example is making about 40 percent of his shots while being contested most of the time but if he is left open he is most defiantly making it more than 70 percent of the time, but all these shots that these comp players are taking are open 90% of the time so why should they be missing open shots if they time it right and know how to get open thats exactly why they shoot so well.
I think simulation with arcade traits and lower* rng would work. Like we dont need to shoot just like it is in real life, because its a game. But it make sure the toxic players dont completely dominate the playing field, some rng is needed
@@hunterjablonski7357 okay so either find a way to beat players who go 7/7 from 3 each game or play something else? it will literally come down to who gets the ball first or who misses first shot loses. the casual player will have no place in the park, theater, rec etc
@@nba2ktutes i meant to say lower rng, but they also have to find a better balance with the builds. i feel like defense is always overlooked and offense will always overpower it, which i get they want it exciting for the common player. but if someone invests in high defense, it should force the common guard to find other ways to score
@@Flock2xthen get good enough to shoot as good as him. if the game is more arcadey, it actually won’t be that hard if your shooting good shots. I don’t see the issue here lmao just get good
Thats allot for one mode my guy... We got to crunch that down, but the idea is realistic. Would help but at the same time it's a waste if the popularity wants the competitive version but complain about the variables that come with it...
@@alexnather7614uh the gameplay was arcade bro I was dribbling like a god with a 7’3 back then doing curry slide, they had park cards as well 2k15-17 were so arcade
The game aint simulation or it aint arcade either. It just sucks. The movement is slow and clunky you dont make shots you should make. You cant play different playstyles. Only screen and shoot 3s.
The real issue is the NBA is losing money and a crap sport. The video game reflects the same. That is why games based on these businesses are also going down hill.
Get rid of RNG.. As much as possible. Keep the skill gap wide as possible. Bring fun& worthy rewards way more often.. Make playing exciting.. Whether you're competitive or not.
I play sim style but I am competitive.. RNG is ruining EVERYTHING.. not saying to make it easy& have EVERYONE greening without real skill. Making whites should be at the lowest % .. Not impossible tho
Id say I lean way more to simulation like I want realistic stats and gameplay.... But for me I'm fine with like 50-60% for the elite shooters. I think 75% is beyond obnoxious with how the game plays and how easy it is to dribble around multiple screens and get an open shot or making moving shots. The numbers should not be that high it doesn't matter how good you are it's basketball and you're not hitting 75% of shots over 1000s of games. Sometimes you're gonna go 1/7. Look at curry. It's stupid.
The NBA players just want to shoot and green, thats it. Its really frustrating knowing you're missing your shoots due to RNG making you miss it. I know alot of elite shooters from past 2k ppl who 100% have the timing to green ALL the shoots and still miss on 2k25 because the game force you to miss. Theres no consistency on this its the most dumb and garbage thing they've put in a 2k in the history of all the games.
Cheaters ruined the game because they made it impossible to not cheat to be good, just so you can enjoy not facing all the sweats in the 3 to 4 casual games u can play as a random. And that's the thing we want to be like a real life game, where I need a skill so that I can portray that skill and show what I can do, but if I make a rebounder and get out rebounded by people who are just getting lucky animations, u take all the skill away because it becomes a dice roll and nobody has skill on throwing a dice and getting the same number everytime unless u are very lucky and get it 2 3 times in a row RNG has to be the worst thing in 2k history and I remember the cheesy post scorers
They had the right idea with high risk green or make if you time it you make it the problem I think is you’ll put these in the same match with low risk and normal risk
Summary: I think it's much better for 2k to give both parties (sim and comp) what they want separately than to find the middle ground and let both parties play using one slider. Sim and Comp are just 2 different worlds.
Happy Holidays everyone!
Same to you brother ❤
I still see so many people complain about RNG I personally think it’s skill issue ngl. Nice vid though I really love the work you put in ❤❤❤
You too sir
facts!
@@BoostingFDman if you think there’s not RNG idk what to tell you. Players much much better than you and me have issues with it
2K wants ppl to spend money on the game, then on VC, then on battle pass, then battle pass level skips, then on dlcs.
It's all GREED.
And then repeat it all next year and penalize you if you prefer to play the older game by shutting off the servers
Agreed. The problem is the cost. The community would be far more forgiving if it didn’t cost so much to make builds to play the game. As the greed has gotten worse, so has the game!
@@seanh8095dvd's and gaming are the cheapest forms of entertainment - you dont have to buy the battlepass, but it is unfortunate 2k rewards pay to win, new generation of gaming
@@88pts I didn’t mention the battle pass and u didn’t mention the cost of builds. I’ll stand on my statement. The cost is the problem!
@@seanh8095 it wont change, people have money to spend on games vs back in the day
The real issue, which only was slightly fixed in 2k23, is the Left right Cheese. You cant say the game is realistic when you play against it. Literally left right dribble cheese with the vacuumed screens is the most unrealistic BS in the game which is why I'm confused on why they made shooting realistic but not the dribbling or screen mechanics. No one is doing that in real life without getting tired or losing the ball.
shut this sht up u complaining about left right patches movement all around which is y we cant dribble normal now shut up and guard
Vacuum screens are so stupid. You can be going in the opposite direction and still get trucked by them. There's no skill involved.
It’s the only way to score against good defense and zone.
Screens are literally blackholes online, worse part is they DO NOT have the same effect in offline modes. Shit is ridiculous.
@@Guntages work on your post game
I just think Mike Wang needs to find another profession because I don’t know if anyone else notice. But he is the same guy that was doing NBA live games at one point and now look how NBA live turn out now he’s over here doing the same thing to 2K. I really hope that this is his last 2k. People play the game to have full control over whatever happens not random animations and the Devs randomly playing God with our jump shots and other things that’s not fun or fair.
Live went down after he left, though, and he was at 2k first. Like 2k7 and 8 then he left went to live and left there in like 2010 last live game before that dumb nba 11 elite and beyond. Nba Live 10 was the last decent one with Dwight on the cover
yup he ruined live now he doing the same thing to 2k next he gone go to madden
You all misinterpreted; Wang only made one NBA Live game, Live 10, which was financially successful and considered the best NBA Live ever. Then he returned to NBA 2K. He literally made every 2k from 06-25
@killar3g he left 2k in 2007-08 and signed with EA like I said, then left there and went back to 2k like I previously stated and I liked live 10 hated when he left because I didn't like 2k
@ no he actually didn’t leave until live 11 which is live elite which was by far the worst game they made he did both 2K 11 and live. That was his last game.
The thing with “making it easier to shoot” is they would HAVE to make defense and the contest system better. 2k23 last gen is what I played in 23, and that contest system felt amazing other than some inconsistency’s in the interior. But you had people shooting 60%, but good defense could shut them out. That’s almost impossible this 2k.
Facts stop trying to nerf the offense and making the game dull when the problem is defense sucks… they keep trying everything under the sun when ppl are going to find away around it regardless what you do.
Ppl who are talking about real life Steph Curry 3pt percentage, the NBA has defensive schemes and Steph is not shooting all of his shots WIDE OPEN! Most of the time, his shots are HEAVILY CONTESTED. You let curry take every shot WIDE OPEN and he’ll shoot 70% for the season.
thank you, people don't understand this. if curry is taking wide open corner 3's all game he is not shooting 5/10.
@@hunterjablonski7357we dnt play 12 min quarters we dnt want realistic percentages
Bruh curry goes 5/15 almost every night when he’s at he’s best he’ll miss 3-5 out of the 15 it’s a lot more rare than people thinks
I've said this many times. Wide open make percentage with no close out is not the same as taking a slightly contested shot.
The main issue is the servers. I just played Marvel Rivals and the servers are butter! I've played hundreds of games with zero lag, zero disconnects, zero issues. 2k refuses to invest in their servers.
No body has time to grind these days, there's so many games out there to play.
2K has too much grind.
I ALWAYS thought this was EXTREMELY simple. Make park Arcadey. You already have specific dunks, passes, celebrations, attire etc. make rec sim. Best of both worlds
i think they're on the right path, new dribble engine, new smooth animations, rhythm shooting, once they fine tune these things out i think we'll get a good product. I don't think the game should 'make' ppl having a similar % rating than the NBA, thats just ridiculous. If you can time it then you should be able to hit it. Call it RNG, call it random animations, 2k really went overboard with that stuff this year..
That’s what I’ve been saying, they have a great foundation but they need to figure out how to build on it
There’s 3 different shot timings and yall are still complaining about this game. There is a ranked mode in this game. It’s called pro am and proving grounds. The Content creators that are crying about this game, they don’t play defense. They just expect you to miss while expecting that they make everything. So, this would not be a fix. This doesn’t even make sense.
All seven of yall are idiots but 😭
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@@cartrellbouknight410 Explain how we are idiots,
@@cartrellbouknight410 I thought so
I think the release speed alternating was a great idea, adds more skill and realism. But if they add such mechanics they have to fix release queues to coincide with EACH green window. Servers and input lag fixes would probably make 2k feel a lot better as well. Even maneuvering in the city feels more delayed than games made 20 years ago
almost no one shot 75% maybe a couple hundred people?? huge myth in the community, they are creating the game to patch the 1% that’s ridiculous 🤣 those guys played against people not on they level, like myself i was in rec an avg that. top players were in the 60s just like every other 2k 🤣 in the golden era 2k i shot lower %s than these newer supposed sim 2ks😂 the funny thing is som guys prefer the same 2k as arcade guys🤣 if they made a 2k where it required skill to shoot they’d be all shooting 10-20 % while the goats would be shooting the top possible. what they really want is a casual 2k with no skill gap but still want the top to stop shining so much, they don’t realize if you make 2k easy we go absolutely crazy. they need to be okay with people they’ll never play shining tbh. this is a good idea but the problem is mike wang don’t want my side to exist he’s sike if it that’s why he’s done what he’s done
I shot 75& up from 21 til now.. 25 won't really allow me to. (63%) But the fact it was rare for players to consistently avg that high% ? Excluding the cheaters.. made it the best skill gap
Here is the fix:
-Open shots you time go in
-Covered shots drastically reduce make % (legendary deadeye let’s you make light contests consistently)
-Bring back last years dunk meter
-Make floaters viable
Just for clarification. I said that because in a basketball game based on real players shooting “real” percentages shouldn’t ruin the gaming experience. I like the reality of even if I’m “perfect”I still might miss because that is what makes the sport enjoyable in my opinion. For whatever reason if people don’t like that then that’s fine and maybe 2K should have a “street” style game with arcading things such as 70-80% 3 point percentage.
I personally wouldn’t find it fun and that’s ok. Just have 2 separate games.
Great video. I love the solution and I think if people would put their feelings aside for 2k, that solution would work perfectly. I hope 2k watches your vids man.
Hardest working man in the 2k community. Appreciate everything you do for us mane
Great vid, Tutes. I think they're leaning the way you described and this year was the first attempt. They're definitely experimenting with the sliders and introducing "randomness" as a factor. I feel like they maxed gameplay mechanics last year and when people still complained, they focused on giving each sector of the community its own space this year.
You need to be a game developer because this is very much needed I HATE THIS YEAR 2k I shot so well on 2k24 but shoot terrible on 25 I don’t enjoy ts at all
Make Rec, Theatre & Starting 5 for Simnation.
ProAm & Park for Comp
Proving Grounds can be a happy medium but leaning more to comp.
Events should be comp sliders.
And let us play myCareer with friends on the same NBA teams incase the game is dogsh**
There are so many aspects to this game. You have the ability to control an entire team and be strategic. Why does shooting, which is only one small part of the game, determine your opinion?
Mike want already said he wants to bring shooting percentages down. You don’t enjoy the game because you can’t shoot with a 99 3 pt rating? Thats a you problem
Perfect game for me would be realistic movement with dribbling, less deep outlet passes so there’s more half court offense games, less passing lane steals on the perimeter, reduced screen effects, and more balanced rebounding where 1 player on the team isn’t getting all the rebounds. Then shooting, dunks, layups should be timing based where the green window is effected by attributes, badges, defenses badges, and contest. This would be a good balance between sim and comp.
ITS A VIDEO GAME!….IF U KNOW YOUR SHOT IT SHOULD GO IN. 2K DOING TOO MUCH, RNG CAUSES UNNECESSARY NEW BUILDS AND NEW JUMPSHOTS. REGARDLESS OF AGE OR GAME PLAY 2K IS A COMPETITIVE GAME AND RNG IS TIPPING THE SCALES. RANDOMLY AT THAT SMH.
i disagree fam its 12 year olds who know their jump shots in previous 2ks and suffer from main character syndrome.Players need deeper bags and take better shots !! I rarely see miss jump shots when you know your shot and its a good one
@ YOUR PROBLEM SEEMS TO BE THE RANDOMS, NOT THE RNG LOL. PAYERS “BAG” HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RNG, ITS LITERALLY MAKING U MISS BECAUSE OF PERCENTAGES. IF U KNOW UR SHOT IT SHOULD GO IN.
@@YourFavoriteCoolCousin you disagree that because a child has muscle memory and can time his shot that it was ruining the game see this is the damn problem you yall are trying to make this game weird because you couldn’t guard a child? Main character syndrome??? Everyone is allowed to shoot high percentage or not that’s not gonna change how this game is constructed please just play for yourself stop commenting
@@Tahs_TV these the mf bruh “skill issue” a bag has nothing to do with this game being hoe he’s admitted he used to get cooked by children now the game is bail out city so he’s better
I've been saying for years, give rec/5v5 to sims and park/3v3 to arcade. It's 2k's best chance at making everyone happy-ish
So no one will play rec anymore? The most sensible way woud be arcade=rec, park, theater / simulation=pro-am, proving grounds, nba offline (with option for arcade).
with how many game modes there are, the player base is already spread out kind of thin. if they divide it even further it could make it tough to get games quickly which was apparently already an issue with the proving grounds. i think they could just make rec theatre and park the arcade/casuals modes and have pro am ante up and proving grounds as your comp/ realistic modes.
Pure sim for rec and pro am and arcade for theatre and park easy fix
This^
I thought that this is what they were trying to do. But a lot of creators are crying about the game wanting it to be more arcade. 5v5 should ALWAYS BE SIM STYLE, those creators want 5v5 to be unrealistic/arcade too. They can go to the theater or park for that arcade NBA Jam style shit.
Listen to this big. I made a 5’9 pg 185 lbs and the only body types I get are big bulky guard styles. Even on normal I look like a 250lb linebacker… it’s just crazy, I just sent it to 2k so they can try to figure it out.. I’ve seen my identical build with a smaller framed players body so it doesn’t make sense that it’s not available for me even though I have all my workouts done
This is a great idea but they need to reduce some of the other modes because the player base is already split between so many different places park rec proving grounds starting 5 etc
don’t forget gravity ball😜
Yes high 3 ball shoot be shooting 60% plus. Cuz then what's the point of high 3 ball
Yes its an easy fix , we been asking for years. This is the first time ive seen a video on it. Thank you.
Great idea Tutes!
I agree to the fact that the best players in the nba (and so our MP’s) doesn’t need that much space to knock down shots, but man defense is so weak compared to offense in this game. I have a 99 perimeter lock who get stun animations guarding pgs with
Bro the delay is the problem. Just put your ping up in the match & everyone will see y bs happens
And ppl be telling me I'm tripping when I shoot, and it jumps from 56 to 90. Started sending screenshots 😂😂😂😂
I feel like the shouldn’t percentage wouldn’t be as high if 2k fixed the shot contest system
Somewhat serious question. Is NBA 2k a streetball game? Cause all the videos ive seen on this game, no one is playing on an NBA court, its always some streetball court or rec.
All they need to do is make builds free, and actually grindable like other games. Yeah you should still have the option to buy VC if you want to skip grinding your build, but it shouldn’t be required to actually have fun on the game. If they fix this 1 issue, then 2k may be saved.
That’s what they are doing now in their heads this is that
All they did was make the grind unbearable so your forced to spend money or actually play this trash
They're never doing that. The most sensible approach is to make NBA free to play (at least online) and keep VC as always.
NBA live should step in the market with a super simulated game to give players options.
It’s not hard to figure out both sides slick want the same thing, if I time my shot correctly let it go in regardless of coverage… shooting is the biggest sticking point because it feels like you are literally being lied to about your timing. And on defense fix rebounds and paint defense… that’s simple
Make open shots easy again for everybody, give the comp dudes their speed boosting back but make it extremely hard to shoot contested and fix interior
That might be a great solution. I actually like this years game. I guess I’m just not a complicated person. If I miss shots I’m trying something else to help the team win. I hope they make a nba street game for the ppl who just want unrealistic animations
Great Idea Vote 2k Tutes to take over Mike Wang JOB!
Super wack!
Curry isn’t playing 5 minute quarters
Make steals right stick only!
The easiest fix for this game has been staring TakeTwo in the face for years, and instead they have to release a bunch of patches every year:
Make stealing skill based, using the right stick, exactly as the right stick currently functions - you reach in the wrong direction, you don't get a steal.
This tiny fix will completely fix passing lane steals, and make the game more friendly to passing and movement. It's such a simple fix, it's bonkers they didn't do it years ago!
I disagree with the person here 0:29
Passes stunning defenders is something 2K added to make sure players couldn't "guard 2 people." That's the opposite of simulation
Ankle breakers at random and pump fakes making you jump is more arcadey than anything
They patched the steal thing but that was just steals being overtuned. Nothing to do with simulation
If you're missing shots that you "timed right," you didnt time it right. If you don't hit 100% of your shots in practice, don't expect to hit 100% in game
Personally, I would say anything in between is the best. Have aspects of both, but don't lean too far either way. A couple changes either way and we have a great game
BEEEN SAYING THIS FOR THE LONGEST!!!! I would only add that people make a bunch of builds each year anyway so limit a build to the type of playstyle they choose. So at the beginning, I would assume everyone would make a arcade player as they are learning the game and their build and THEN they can make their better build for simulation.
4:46 female players at 1.4% but they want female players in the park 😂😂😂
I had suggested awhile back on Reddit last year just before 2K25 that they stop game development for “current gen” and split the game into simulation and arcade.
IMO some gaming studio has to invest money on making a Park only game mode, I mean it should not be that difficult it has been done in the past. Once 2k has some competition then they will make adjustments.
This doesn't need a debate. If you make the game lean more towards simulation and the playerbase leaves than the playerbase has spoken.
Mike Wang has flat out cooked the game. I get him and Ronnie cop it every year no matter what but this game is AWFUL. Put the green window back. They've added moving windows and cues yet still won't let you green every shot lmao. Even if you LEARNT every timing and release you still won't make the shot. That's the problem. Just turn off being able to green in general and make everyone shoot on real player shooting profiles. And I'm not even talking about low 3 point builds. If you have a high as 3 ball, if you're good enough, you should be able to make every open shot. And why do they not know how to patch and buff badges? They either buff it to the moon or kill it completely. And why is the paint defence always cooked every single year? And why do animations affect your attributes and player more than the actual attribute? If I have on a different motion style and have more speed than the next man, he's still faster though because he's zooming like Alex Caruso. The game is chalked. I'd happily take McGrady heavys in the mouth on 2k24 over this flip a coin game lmao.
It's a video game. If you have 99 3pt, take a wide open srand still shot from normal 3 range and time it well, you should make that shot 99% of the time. If I'm about to get boxed out, and I sprint the other direction, I shouldn't get sucked into their back and be forced to stand there.
You cannot have a competitive basketball game where people can shoot over 66% from 3.
It breaks the maths of the game, if you shoot 67% from 3, then your points per shot is greater than 2; making EVERY SINGLE 2 point shot a bad shot.
Literally, a wide open dunk is a bad shot, because even if you make it at 100% that 2 points per shot, where as a 3pt shooter shooting at 70% is scoring 2.25 points per shot.
The guys wanting "Competitive" style, either don't understand basketball, don't understand maths, or both.
I think the game should be simulation because it's NBA 2K, the comp players dont even want anything NBA, they just want Arcade basketball. There was another 2k game for the 2K League, that should be the answer for comp players and should be available to more players
I don't think you can divide up the community like that. We'll be waiting for matches forever. I think people just need to accept each game is going to be different. Some games I can't miss, some games all bricks. Almost always if I'm shooting poorly like 3-10 or something, my team mates are also shooting like 3-10. I'm shooting about 40% from 3 w/ my 6'11 with an 83 3-ball. Weird dynamics like if I wait to shoot while I'm open I miss more often. You should be rewarded for taking your time. I don't know how to fix it.
That’s the thing, i don’t think most players will accept that.
They going to see no one will be in simulation mode . When their games taking forever to start that's the old head lobby .
Whether it’s RNG or Attributes/Badges contrasting and creating different odds based every player match up remains insignificant. The game itself is based off inconsistent play which creates players questioning themselves leading to new builds, boosts and time on game. If it creates increased monetary gain. Then it’s a win. It’s never based on quality. It’s exactly why the servers have no improved over a decade.
Rng isnt totally bad. Someone with a 60 three ball/60 rebound should still be able to do those things now and then. However, there should be less rng the higher your ratings are. A 99 three ball should have almost no rng. A 99 perimeter d should drastically reduce offense’s effectiveness. Something in the middle like 85 passing should only throw bad passes when off balance or when there is no passing lane. Basketball is a random game at times but elite professional players can definitely consistently do the things they are good at. Curry is probably not going to miss an open 3. A contested one maybe but not open.
2k should allow some randomness otherwise players with lower ratings will never be able to beat players with higher ratings in certain areas, but it should not be overwhelming. Ratings/positioning/openness/etc. need to matter more.
I don't agree with that solution because it further divides the community. Sim players have no problem playing MyCareer but in order to get upgraded (rep) rewards they have to play online. The Sim community would be fine if they could earn those rep rewards without playing online. My suggestion: only MyCareer and Rec are sum while all other modes are arcade. This way all Sim players get all their entertainment in a 5v5 setting and without online play. All "comp" players have arcade gameplay without having to worry about Sim players
Despite all the bs we deal with… and this might be a hot take… but if you look pass the bs the game is actually really fun. My main issues are the people who play like idiots, certain gameplay aspects and matchmaking.
I agree with what 2K is trying to achieve with more realistic outcomes, but I think it's just the implementation that is being done poorly. When it comes to shooting, for example, the way they've introduced this randomness feels bad because the game always PRESENTS it as YOU screwing up by being late or early. This causes confusion and frustration because you don't know if it really was your poor timing or the game that caused the miss, and it gives you this helpless feeling because you don't know how to do better, or if you even can.
My hot take: No more greens or guaranteed makes for people to expect. Everything's white and well timed shots are simply more likely to go in along an appropriate curve based on attributes/heat/etc. This would make it feel natural and better, and less like a video game with frustrating mechanics.
Yep. Take greens out if they want it to be realistic (even though myself and majority of people are against it.) Or make it if you time your shot correctly, it can still miss like how they did in older 2ks.
The ONLY problem with this idea which I agree could work, is that they need dedicated servers & they will never do that. Until they create those, 2k will continue to be the same thing every single year.
They don’t need to add a new server for that. It’s just like a new room. You know when you quit my career and when you enter again then suddenly you're with different set of players? that's like a new room.
Community complains so much its insane. The goat shooters, shoot 50% wide open in games. The best defenders get 2-3 steals/blocks a game. The best ball handlers get 2-4 turnovers a game.
Everyone thinks they're the goat so i hurts their egos to fail, but if you play within yourself, this is one of the best 2ks ever (minus the macrotransactions). It rewards consistently taking good shots throughout the game, not spamming dribble moves and corner fades while your teammates die of boredom. In the long run the rng matters less and the people who take better shots, win more games
2k25 isn’t HORRIBLE. Its inconsistent. ProPlay has turned this game into an animation fest, the sliders are tuned awfully to where 2k actually MAKES you miss. Go green 4 shots in a row if you even can and watch how the 5th shot is a very early or very late.
If they would have listened to my suggestion about the builder being similar to 2k14 n 19 and also add a online mycareer where u can face up to 29 different friends all competing for championships mvps endorsements n others den we wouldn’t b here also reverting the badge system to 2k13 where u have 6 badges total from hundreds where u can buy with vc to the max badge s
take in Stephen Curry’s shot percentage when there’s no defense on him. he’ll probably make 9times out of 10. now to fix that problem in 2K, make perimeter defense mean something. if you do that, you probably would see it getting closer to 40%
The attribute system this year is disappointed, especially the cap breaker system. Most of the teams in 3 vs 3 game contain a guard with a 99 3pt rating and over 90 steal rating, a forward with 99 perimeter defensive rating plus a 99 steal rating, as well as a center with 99 rebounds rating and 95 strength and over 90 rating on block.
Its actually boring to face this kind of team.
That’s not 2k fault though lol ppl have been doing this for years. That’s how most content creators get their content. Making little guard builds that only hide behind screens to shoot and then he has 2 teammates who sit in each corner with high defense.
Agree
But i think there was no build with 99 3pt rating, 90+ dribbles ratings, 85+ dunk and 90+ steal rating
2k takes too much skill to play for the average player nowadays. 2k forgot that not everyone plays competitively or meta
Ive said it before ill say it again
• get rid of visual records get rid of visual stats get rid of visual overall everyone gets anonymity other then their gamertag nobody should be brushed off based solely on not looking like they're good enough ive met plenty of 79-85 overalls much smarter and team oriented then 95+ players
• stop with the city bs just make a park and make a bunch of courts, make all stores for shoes tattoos and clothes be purchasable from the pause menu i dont need to run to some store. And while their ata it add discounts for vc perchanceable items by playing on item spacific courts like a tattoo court or a shoe brand court by keeping a streak 10 game streak gets you 50% off 20 streak gives you 100%
Something along those lines
• add the jumpshot meter back shots are way too randomly slow or speed up how are you supposed to get your shot right if you dont know when to let it go other then visual cues that barely work i hate making a great play and messing it up cause i greened my release timing but my rythem was too fast always upsetting
• and last but biggest stop with forced animations i couldn't count how many times ive crossed someone up they're behind me he isn't even looking at me anymore and as im doing a layup i get the dude i just crossed sucks me into a contact animation that leads to a smothered shot or a block for zero reason and dont get me started and swatted ally oops tell me why i saw Chauncey Billups jump 5 feet in the air standing still
Sorry for the rant its just the game could be so much more enjoyable
Watch they will get rid of attributes and have only badges and you get to pick what you want, and have a limit!
WHAT IF. the cap breaker is a sham. 94 3ball + 5 cap breaker for badges is just 94 with legend badges🤔 the 99 attribute is a placebo effect. I may have to try this
The way this game just dictates your animations and your shot timing is straight up highway robbery to the consumers. Each game feels different, I don’t even know what to expect when I play. I’ve spent considerable time learning my jump shot in each shot style and I wish I never did. I tried making another build just to play a different style and I increased shooting to have hall of fame and legend badges and ended up shooting worse than my original build with a 78 3pt and 85 middy. I don’t even care about winning, I just want it to make sense and that’s on me thinking 2K ever would care about the game play after they get your money.
No u have to factor what makes most money. People under 18 will spend way less then someone older and older players want more skill where u have higher rating and know ur time u can green 60% plus
There should be levels to rng in like pro am and proving grounds competitive and rec and theatre should be more arcade l! They have like 5 different places to play make the sliders different for each place
Just makes the game arcade based and make a center in the city there tht have more simulation properties. Get rid of the unnecessary animations.the overall game should cater to arcade. Ppl will play both
You can’t have a realistic game while allowing us to make unrealistic builds. That’s the problem.
I’m not usually one to say the game been the same but dead ass the play style been the same since 22 left right run fade 😂
Hard Dividing a community is never the solution.. Worst thing 2k can do is to make two seperate servers(IN EVERY REGION).. Just let the simulation players shoot with R% in multiplayer modes and tweak it accordingly..
Good defense better offense if you time that layup right and green it you should make doesn't matter if that player jumped to contest you, same for shots etc thats realistic you see it in the nba and in streetball, also most shots nba players take are contested aswell, so curry for example is making about 40 percent of his shots while being contested most of the time but if he is left open he is most defiantly making it more than 70 percent of the time, but all these shots that these comp players are taking are open 90% of the time so why should they be missing open shots if they time it right and know how to get open thats exactly why they shoot so well.
I think simulation with arcade traits and lower* rng would work. Like we dont need to shoot just like it is in real life, because its a game. But it make sure the toxic players dont completely dominate the playing field, some rng is needed
"simulation with arcade traits", I think that's want 2k wants to achieve...but I think they are having a hard time doing it..as it's too subjective.
rng shouldn't be in the game at all when it comes to shooting
@@hunterjablonski7357 okay so either find a way to beat players who go 7/7 from 3 each game or play something else? it will literally come down to who gets the ball first or who misses first shot loses. the casual player will have no place in the park, theater, rec etc
@@nba2ktutes i meant to say lower rng, but they also have to find a better balance with the builds. i feel like defense is always overlooked and offense will always overpower it, which i get they want it exciting for the common player. but if someone invests in high defense, it should force the common guard to find other ways to score
@@Flock2xthen get good enough to shoot as good as him. if the game is more arcadey, it actually won’t be that hard if your shooting good shots. I don’t see the issue here lmao just get good
Thats allot for one mode my guy... We got to crunch that down, but the idea is realistic. Would help but at the same time it's a waste if the popularity wants the competitive version but complain about the variables that come with it...
Nobody would play the simulation mode lol
2k16 and 19 were the closest to sim 2k ever and millions played lol
Who’s nobody
@@alexnather7614uh the gameplay was arcade bro I was dribbling like a god with a 7’3 back then doing curry slide, they had park cards as well 2k15-17 were so arcade
Facts, if I blow a wide open layup cuz “sliders” and the opponent makes a contested 3 from halfcourt cuz it’s “realistic” I’m quitting the game lmao
All they gotta do is bring back archetypes. Everyone being able to do everything is trash.
The game aint simulation or it aint arcade either. It just sucks. The movement is slow and clunky you dont make shots you should make. You cant play different playstyles. Only screen and shoot 3s.
True simulation does t have meta is this dribbling realistic ?
Bro I’ve been saying this for years, give people their own mode
The real issue is the NBA is losing money and a crap sport. The video game reflects the same. That is why games based on these businesses are also going down hill.
Get rid of RNG.. As much as possible. Keep the skill gap wide as possible. Bring fun& worthy rewards way more often.. Make playing exciting.. Whether you're competitive or not.
I play sim style but I am competitive.. RNG is ruining EVERYTHING.. not saying to make it easy& have EVERYONE greening without real skill. Making whites should be at the lowest % .. Not impossible tho
Bruh they need to go back to 2k19 gameplay . Add green or miss . Boom perfect game in my opinion
Nice thoughts!
I been saying y hey he's 2 games for years so I agree with your idea completely
30-40% max is plenty. Let the other people on your team play too. Shooting is stupid easy atm.
I seen somebody shoot in somebody face with a 99 perimeter defense
Id say I lean way more to simulation like I want realistic stats and gameplay.... But for me I'm fine with like 50-60% for the elite shooters. I think 75% is beyond obnoxious with how the game plays and how easy it is to dribble around multiple screens and get an open shot or making moving shots. The numbers should not be that high it doesn't matter how good you are it's basketball and you're not hitting 75% of shots over 1000s of games. Sometimes you're gonna go 1/7. Look at curry. It's stupid.
The NBA players just want to shoot and green, thats it. Its really frustrating knowing you're missing your shoots due to RNG making you miss it. I know alot of elite shooters from past 2k ppl who 100% have the timing to green ALL the shoots and still miss on 2k25 because the game force you to miss. Theres no consistency on this its the most dumb and garbage thing they've put in a 2k in the history of all the games.
Whats to discuss , you get what you press , whats the point presing buttons if games does what it wants RNG , hows this even a discussion
Cheaters ruined the game because they made it impossible to not cheat to be good, just so you can enjoy not facing all the sweats in the 3 to 4 casual games u can play as a random.
And that's the thing we want to be like a real life game, where I need a skill so that I can portray that skill and show what I can do, but if I make a rebounder and get out rebounded by people who are just getting lucky animations, u take all the skill away because it becomes a dice roll and nobody has skill on throwing a dice and getting the same number everytime unless u are very lucky and get it 2 3 times in a row
RNG has to be the worst thing in 2k history and I remember the cheesy post scorers
It’s a reason lil kids don’t play madden. I be playing 10 yr olds on 2k and they be good. That’ll never be the case in madden.
Just let NBA 2k be what it is. HOWEVER! in the event a college basketball game is in the works it should be sim style only
They had the right idea with high risk green or make if you time it you make it the problem I think is you’ll put these in the same match with low risk and normal risk
Take off real player percentage and normal and low risk. Simple
5:40 great idea
They simply need to hire you and fix the shooting
agent00 said this exact thing like 8 years ago. make a sim and arcade park/mode