Is Consciousness a Miracle? | Harvard’s Cognitive Scientist Prof. Steven Pinker & Sadhguru
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- Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2023
- "Is consciousness a miracle?” Join Sadhguru and Harvard cognitive scientist Prof. Steven Pinker as they explore this profound question at a fascinating discussion on science and spirituality, hosted by the Sadhguru Center for a Conscious Planet, Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center. Moderated by Harvard Medical School's Dr. Bala Subramaniam, this thought-provoking conversation explores consciousness through the lenses of ancient wisdom and modern science.
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Recorded at the Harvard Sanders Theatre. This program is not owned, controlled or supervised by Harvard University or any of its schools or programs.
Timestamps:
01:25 - “Is consciousness a miracle?” Conversation begins.
20:50 - Sadhguru explains the difference between consciousness and awareness.
27:07 - Dr. Pinker on cause and effect relationship, and the myth of miracles.
31:29 - Sadhguru’s explanation on consciousness as “chitta” - an intelligence unsullied by memory.
36:00 - Dr. Pinker on consciousness as an activity of the brain.
47:51 - Yogic insights into the brain, dark energy and a nonphysical dimension of intelligence.
58:44 - Neuronal and brain functions during powerful experiences.
1:03:12 - Insights into meditation, enlightenment, telepathy and telekinesis.
1:09:39 - Is life getting better for humanity?
1:14:16 - Mental illnesses and taking charge of one’s mind.
1:26:45 - Soil as the source of life and why soil is going extinct.
1:32:33 - Does consciousness continue after death?
1:41:03 - Behavioral genetics and what determines human behavior.
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"Science should never conclude what we do not know can not exist."
Thank you SO MUCH for saying this.🙏
Science never said that sadguru said that 😅
@@sujith5920science constantly asserts that. They will treat what they cannot prove as if it doesn’t exist.
haha! Yeah, science overflows with hubris like that...@@sujith5920
Steve answer was perfectly punch out sadguru s' attack with no doubt, "nor spirituality should believe of something exist without reasons".
Science (which is a process not a person) doesn't conclude that. Sadhguru is attacking a strawman. Name one scientist in history that has ever said that
The balance and calmness that Sadhguru brings to a heated conversation is impeccable. ❤
I wondered if Sadhguru's wife was equally impressed when he murdered her.
@@mangatinanda I like how Pinker questions Sadhguru,
That's why he is sadhguru
Yes, but this was not a heated conversation. Pinker is quite chill too.
Even dead people will bring calmness to any grave.
What’s the point of bringing calmness when he doesn’t have anything valuable to offer in this debate.
Professor Pinker's explanation of what consciousness is is similar to that of a physicist telling us that Beethoven's Ninth is a series of superposed acoustic waves 😅
in realty , it actually is ...every sound is combination of series of acoustic waves ..which you can write through Fourier series
I like your comment, very deep :-)
@@souravdeb283 in reality, it actually is more than that.
@@souravdeb283 representation vs real thing
'This'! 💯%!
What a beautiful line said by sadghuru 'Science should never conclude what we do not know cannot exist' ❤❤❤
Well said
Just because we can think of it doesn't mean it's likely it exists.
True
@@Ometecuhtli duh
neither should people conclude something exists without evidence.
Whenever I'm down, confused, or distracted, I get back to a full talk of Sadhguru with David Eagleman. I consider it one of the most intelligent conversation in the internet history that's available, but after this talk with Mr. Pinker I would consider this talk too to keep repeating almost every once in a while I need! 🙏🏼
Search "Memory, Consciousness and Coma Harvard by Sadhguru"
You'll love it 🙏🏽
Yes!!🎉
I am one of those also who always refer back to Sadhguru’s discussion with David Eagleman. I believe also this is a landmark discussion and will be referred back to for 100s of years, to enhance human understanding of Life.
Mr Eagleman is so direct and has the highest regard for Sadguru ( not the variety that the so called devotees show...) I feel that's exactly the way in which exchange of views should happen....
Alan Watts lectures are good for that too.
At 24 mins in and I'm amazed at the extraordinary fluency, smooth, and easy flow of wisdom from Sadguru. Not trying to prove anything but leaving room for one to think, not conclude and for wonder and curiosity to flow like the ganges. Wisdom arises out of right perception.
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But Sadhguru also said "man can not think beyond the content of his memory". So, even if one is given the room to think, one can not think exceptionally due to limited data. No?
@@madhukiranattivilli2321 thinking is limited to our experience, but when u stop mind (thought field), your buddhi(intelligence) directly attached to supreme consciousness. and from there intuition comes. that is how 'Mantras' are flowed from Brahaman to Human via Rishi.
@@user-gp1zy3up7y Yes, all that is right
However it is not feasible to stop mind. With practice, mind may stop the thought stream
No?
@@user-gp1zy3up7ywhat can you do with that flow. Did anyone achieve anything. Please join school 🏫 you need to wash this jargon away
Such a profound debate between the intellectuals!Worth listening and provoking the self towards awe and enigma of existence and life .
What a wonderful conversation. Such conversation must organise by time to time to churn our thoughts. 🙏 Naman Sadguru
Fantastic conversation. In college I read Steven Pinker's books as part of my psychology & neuroscience classes. I also learned so much from Sadhguru, especially when it comes to using the tools of yoga & meditation to live a vibrant, fulfilling life. To see a world-renowned cognitive scientist and profound mystic interact, what a fortune! 🔥
Well the scientist is stuck in his intellect unfortunately. Continuosly misenterpreting the word Miracle and saying Sadhguru is making up jargon. But, it's his life and he can believe whatever he wants.
But you, or Steven, don't know what's Meditation. Define it if you know. Every definition you'll come up with will be WRONG.
So if you want to learn, may be Sadguru, or a TRUE Spiritual guru, can help.
@@dhirajgupta7435 How could you know if we know how to meditate or not. You are very pressumptious and i doubt you even meditate to come up with a comment like that.
This is nice video thank you @PeaceHow
This is nice video thank you @peaceHow
It's all wonderful! But I know one thing! In my personal experience, the teachings of Sadhguru transformed me in the physical, mental and spiritual aspect. I remember myself 3 years ago, and I know myself today, and that's a big difference. I am grateful to you Sadhguru , and I will continue to work on myself, because I see real results. Your teaching has a healing effect. Namaste 🙏🏻 ❤
Same here❤❤❤
Sadhguru would say he just provided tools, it was you who transformed yourself.
Can you explain in detail how you got transformed?
Have you taken inner eingineering?
@@rahulsanku1803 just simply followed his advice and teaching. Meditations, yoga and healthy choices of food and supplements.
Incredible conversation, thanks for sharing, wonderful insights from the two distinct knowledge faculties. 👍
I love that they put these two brilliant minds together and gave us two separate perspectives fr❤❤❤
I find Sadhguru the opposite of brilliant.
I find your comment the opposite of brilliant. 😛@@Vlasko60
Sadhguru is ahead of the crowd...Always.
Many in the crowd have zero understanding of how broad his train of thought is.
@ the same time everyone does ;)
Sadhguru has no thoughts. You should watch his more videos.
He is not even in the crowd
yup
Lol
Loved this, I respect both Dr Pinker and Sadguru.. What a treat for me.
"This video came to me at the right time. Buddha's words have a way of providing solace and guidance. Grateful for this virtual refuge of wisdom."
Sadhguru didn't offer wisdom; he offered feel-good ignorance.
@@user-fz4kr3rk9p you're a sad pathetic individual, Sadghuru has helped and saved millions of people, what have you done with your miserable existence?
@@user-fz4kr3rk9pI suspect you could use some of that "ignorance"
@@user-fz4kr3rk9pwhatever makes you feel good
This is nice video thank you @peaceHow
I have no words ! When he said 'even animals are striving to be better than anyone, we as human beings should strive for more " all i needed to hear.All the love to Sadhguru ❤❤❤❤
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And why do you think that just because Sadhguru said " 'even animals are striving to be better than anyone", that is true? How does Sadhguru have any info about this? Why would anyone believe such extraordinary claims just because they are uttered by someone they like w/o being presented evidentiary proof of it or w/o their own experential evidence?
The mentalist lior suchard can read and influence the mind. Pinker doesn't know about it or he doesn't like to accept the existence of people like that.
evolution
The clarity of Sadhguru never fails 🙏🙇♀️❤️ He is truly a miracle 🙏🔥🌻
Clarity. The one "consumable" you can't overdose on.
@AtoZandbaI never feel so...
Pinker is too educated as he miss the education..
Here's some clarity then: all he did was re-purpose the meaning of the word "miracle" from super-natural to natural. Pinker answered the question with 'miracle' meaning super natural. Sadhguru answered the question with 'miracle' meaning amazing natural event. A play on words.
@@RavisidharthanHe “missed the education” ? Sounds like another person who fears science or the scientific method, and seeks comfort in mythology.
@@readynowforever3676I think it's said in another context , I think it's about "continuous unlearning process" , Which can help to avoid biases and pre built conclusions which dont let us think freely or from a different perspective. It is one of the important principal of critical thinking.
And I think sometimes we as humans are afraid of free thinking and we find comfirt in facts said by someone. So we dont have to think out of the box , bcoz it scares us.
Great conversation from great human minds
It’s possible💪🏾thank you Haji🙏🏾happiest and prosperous new year to you your family and everyone
Timestamps:
01:25 - “Is consciousness a miracle?” Conversation begins.
20:50 - Sadhguru explains the difference between consciousness and awareness.
27:07 - Dr. Pinker on cause and effect relationship, and the myth of miracles.
31:29 - Sadhguru’s explanation on consciousness as “chitta” - an intelligence unsullied by memory.
36:00 - Dr. Pinker on consciousness as an activity of the brain.
47:51 - Yogic insights into the brain, dark energy and a nonphysical dimension of intelligence.
58:44 - Neuronal and brain functions during powerful experiences.
1:03:12 - Insights into meditation, enlightenment, telepathy and telekinesis.
1:09:39 - Is life getting better for humanity?
1:14:16 - Mental illnesses and taking charge of one’s mind.
1:26:45 - Soil as the source of life and why soil is going extinct.
1:32:33 - Does consciousness continue after death?
1:41:03 - Behavioral genetics and what determines human behavior.
Thank you!!🙏🏻😊
The Doctor seems to have not connected to what Sadguru has spoken. He thinks everything physical. This is nothing but following the Christianity where the body goes with them to heaven despite the buried body has already ruined totally.
The educated Doctor seems to have not understand the dimensions that Sadguru has spoken
@@user-cu8jz2lt9dbecause he has his brain to differentiate between truth and lies
@@user-cu8jz2lt9d The educated doctor's name is Pinker, and I don't think Sadguru has a good idea of the findings of neuroscience. But one thing has not been observed in a convincing way: A consciousness without a brain. On the other hand, as Pinker has noted, there are tons of evidence that brain degradation goes hand in hand with cognitive degradation.
@@karlschmied6218 sadguru already defined a term called awareness and that is directly depends on the tool called Brain as that is the point all 5 interface (senses - interfacing with rest of world) gets converted to intelligence. That is the coordinating point from those information flow into the mind.
The yogic understanding goes this way. There are 5 karma indriyas = physical manifestation of 5 senses they are eyes, ears, nose, tounge, and skin. Then there are 5 gnana indriyas = the software portion of those five physical manifestation. The reason one feels the hand even after amputation is the gnana indriyas associated with the person which is soft portion has not got impacted.
In this the mind, intelligence and ego also are considered as Indriyas in other words they are also interfacing the consciousness with the rest of the world.
That is why sadguru was repeatedly saying consciousness is that portion called "chith" which is that not touched by any portion of the physical body.
The physical body at higher level consist of 24 layers and 25th layer is the consciousness.
The 24 layers are further divided to multiple sub components.
This conversation in itself is a great contribution to today's world. This what we need. This what should be there in our textbooks.
True we need these kinds of talks/debates a lot in today's world.
This is an amazing and inspiring talk that anyone who considers themselves an intelligent being should hear.
Signs of sanity that are so rare these days.
Thank you
חד משמעית
It is a miracle that we can listen and contemplate these ideas.
This experience has been wonderful to hear… and as usual sadhguru has transformed a complex conversation or topic and simplified it to basic understanding of life ❤❤❤
I feel sorry as well as a sense of gratitude to Sadhguru for taking the pains to bring higher wisdom out into a world which is a victim of and is blinded by its own limited progress, success and imagination. This is some service He is performing.
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Because he did the best of what he could u r able to see what u can see today, he is continuing what he does best.. Bringing conciousness into the world ❤
you will see improvements in the coming times! 😅
An observer is a detector like any detector, but the mind continues the observations repeatedly from mind-moment (Chittakhana) to mind-moment. Also, the mind can see the small light waves. Therefore, the mind is a very fast continuation of a process.
imagine excepting logic from a sadhguru fan
This could have been such a great conversation! Hats off to Sadhguru articulating it so nicely and making it easy to understand...❤
What you understood?
We can understand his arguements. We can also understand he’s wrong and Pinker is right and has the proof.
You have two ears? Should have used both and it would have been all the greater a conversation for you.
@PeaceHow
@@karagi101 what exactly did Sadhguru say that was wrong? I can tell you right now that Pinker started off on the wrong foot with a very faulty definition of consciousness. There are organisms without actual brains that exhibit consciousness.
Beautifully said Sadhguru 🙏🏾
Being alive is a miracle 💙Aashuq 💚the way our mind and bodies work is amazing and we are all individuals ‼️
just some random opinions without much value
Who can hug a person who totally contradicted you for 2 hours straight...🙏 Such Grace
@meisterhouse9747 opposed to bitterness within
We all must get to that place, that's the lesson.
Union or yoga or Sadhguru
Yea I almost stopped the video 🙏 but I just 🙏😁
Yes. Isn't it though? So beautiful.
Amazing ❤❤ One of the best discussions 🙏 🙏
The whole us is more then a miracle & consciousness being a part of it !
Thankyou 🤍 ☝️🙏
Seriously, having separate mic for each is miracle !
It is to ensure only one person is talking at a time. And that, there is enough civility to pass it to each other.
What a brilliant conversation! Cleary showing how ignorance and arrogance cannot lead anyone anywhere! Be a seeker🙏🏾
It shows ur brain couldnt process anything that the prof said....
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Who is arrogant and ignorant?
@@lancerag1437who do u think
@lancerag1437 the white bafoon in this case.
wow great talk!!! so much love and respect. Sadhguru even engineers gatherings and events like this to be pleasant and deeply educational and inspiring
This is nice video thank you @peaceHow
Asa este,parca plutesc de cand am pus mana pe aceasta sticla cu apa sfintita!Fiti toti bine si aruncati dusmanie si pe dusmani,departe!❤❤❤😮😮😅❤❤❤❤😊😅❤
When I look at the world; I despair. When I hear the words of wisdom from this mighty Sage Sadhguru; I feel hope.
I have recently started to see tremendous hope for all.
Same here as well.
Absolutely brilliant conversation for the west and east to show the developments in yogic sciences and ‘western’ science that we are all taught. I hope this inspires more people, especially the youth to explore how to bridge the dichotomy of the 2 sciences and delve more into yogic sciences to bring it to the forefront.
In my opinion the conversation is impeccable by Sadhguru and regurgitated uniformitarian scientific spats of technical word jargon. When Steven speaks the conversation feels dragging and meaningless.
@@mysticgarage1243 You have to understand what he's saying for it to not be meaningless. Sadhguru simply rambling on about anything and everything for feeble minded people
Sadhguru explained correct meaningfull aspects about human mental and physical correctness
@@BenjaminNuttinYahooYou are obviously living in a trance 😂
What an amazing talk by both
I can only learn from you Sadhguru.....untouched, unconditional, loving ILLUMINED!!!
Sadhguru's ability to navigate complex discussions with clarity and grace is truly a beacon of light in today's world. Thank you, Sadhguru, for your unwavering commitment to elevating human consciousness and fostering a deeper understanding of life's mysteries.
So true
Seems like this comment is written bi CHAT GPT 😂
Lol he made no sense
When I listen to Sadguru I feel instantly enlightened. His wisdom blows my mind away. I appreciate both guests.
the delusion of enlightment
The feeling of enlightenment is not enlightenment. That's called solace.
It’s not his wisdom. He copies.
Being here in the US the one speaker that just based on my "Vibes" the shouts truth in every cell of my body is Sadhguru!
@PeaceHow
Turn Inward that is how to know and enhance this being. Thank you sadhguru i am so Happy to witness this.
Please take a program and see how it transforms you , it's just crazy people do not know what sadhgru actually can do ❤
There is no controlled boundary in how many ways you can enjoy Sadhguru’s words. What a truly wonderful mystic.
pisstic
This discussion is a grand feast for my intellect. Despite being a scientist by profession, I resonate more with Sadhguru's ideas because I can feel the energies beyond the physical realm that he discusses. Experiencing his presence was a blessing, and that encounter has influenced my perspective on science since. Thank you Sadhguru🙏🙏🙏.
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A discussion with Dr. Pinker and Dr. Joseph Dispenza would be an excellent discussion. Dr. Dispenza provides a bridge between the brain, thoughts, consciousness and “miracles”.
I am forwarding the clip where this pinker speaking...only listening sadhguru..this is the way to hear the conversations believe me it works
Nice😂
❤ Sadhguru’s experiential method vs. Pinker’s scientific approach, made for a wonderful and enlightening debate. Thank you. 🙏🏾
How do you explain something real that can't be measured by tools?
I appreciate Sadguru for sitting patiently and explaining the way the schools of Dharma teach kids...
Most sages, rishis, saints have given up trying to explain and went their way... away from mankind...
Yes, it must be so because it can stop defilement from our mind!❤❤❤
A miracle to have these two people together in conversation! ;)
Really appreciate it.
Finally everything on earth,in the whole universe and the total cosmos is really really a miracle.We know just a droplet ,99.9% we don't know anything!
do you believe in God?
Just want to say thanks to sadhguru for his wise words I have been through allot in the last 14 years and I am becoming a new personality a better one and this man’s words help me to have clarity
you should definitely do inner engineering
@@yogisguide321 how is it different from the book ?
@@SebAlex427 book is just a theory sahdguru offers ancient yogic kriya a 21 min moderation technique in inner engineering program it was really transformative for me
its a medidation practice which you have to do daily@@SebAlex427
@@SebAlex427You will be initiated into a practice called "Shambhavi mahamudra" which you can practice daily.
I have been howling for some time Sadhguru. Moksha is hard to maintain. The tears as I shed illusion leave me a baby. But in it I find new strength and hope. Pray with me in meditation my dear soul friend? Om namah SIVA and namaste. ❤❤❤
What a delight to hear two fine minds coming from different perspectives engaging in respectful and intelligent dialogue! Thank you. A lot can be learned about decency in discourse by watching this video.
I was disappointed in Pinkerton, it seemed to me he was quite condescending.
I love Sadhguru's conversations with various eminent scientists❤
@@jmc-xp6mlwas Sadhguru open to science and rationality? Sadhguru is only open to his sky high claims backed by no evidence.😅
@@jmc-xp6mlyou meant open minded means accepting the pseudoscience and rubbish that he is talking about?
@@Lemon-lp1qbonly cause you don’t understand
@@dalinaddeiyou understand it very well, right? rather than resorting to sarcasm please be kind enough to explain it to me as well. thank you.😄
two great men seeing from two different perspectives. you can argue till the cows come home. you will never see it unless you are open to the suggestion that you could be wrong and consider the other person view. not necessary to accept it. Don't rubbish it.
Thank you, Sadhguru❤️🙏
Thank you for showing me how to be compassionate when dealing with ignorant minds ❤️🙏
😂😂😂😂😂 SAME HERE
Well put!!!!!!!!
Shambho 🙏
Nailed it 👌 👏
I do not really see the ignorance. Sadhguru is looking at life from another perspective but how does that make any of these people there ignorant?
@@harleydavidsonstreetbob1322they refuse to look beyond what conclusion they have over things. Sadhguru has said the same thing more than once in this conversation but.. no offence or criticism... The other person refused to look beyond their own conclusions. That is ignorance. Not taking sides but if you looked deeper then Sadhguru never ignored what the other party or any party said. He simply said everything from his experience not from books or knowledge. Well in short he explores or rather already explored.
In short If you have a complete conclusion about things from 5 senses then you are ignorant.
Really good food for my mind. I enjoyed the combination od two different approaches. Thank you so much for all the ideas. I am going to bed now hoping to have them sorted out a bit when I wake up.
I’m a fan of them both and I feel like they are both correct, just looking at the subject from different angles.
both of them are saying very intelligently, but only Sadhguru words make my eye watering and touch deep to the heart.
Steven is a teacher for college students, and Sadguru is a guide for advance seekers.
“Truth comes from life not from labs” 🙏
VERY Nice statement. 👍
Your phones and tech you own came from lab. Electricity, Internet, knowledge of space came from a lab. Truth does come from science. Others are just assumptions.
@@mayankpal6519 Good luck to your 5 senses! I embrace Sprituality as much I embrace Science. But it’s your choice. However because you do not understand this it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. I can only term this as ignorance
@@anishnagaraj we say the moon exists because we have actual evidence for it and based on that evidence we can verify the claim, also note that the moon has a very clear definition, everyone experiences the moon objectively the same, whereas whenever someone brings up spirituality - everyone suddenly has their personal definitions for it. every person defines spirituality differently according to their biases, also none of the spiritual experiences claimed by spiritual people are testifiable nor verifiable and not a single one of them has evidence for their experience to be "real". if while meditating I see a giant cat wearing a cape, with two wings, flying across the sky - that is my experience, "my life", but is it actually the truth? We will have to first verify the claim with proper testing and searching for the evidence, and guess who does it? - the labs. So no, the truth doesn't come from our subjective experiences but from the objective reality! hope you'll try to understand :)
@@mayankpal6519lol as if there was no life before this instruments.
Both speakers were very good and competent in their respective fields. Sadhguru tried to convince through a spiritual approach, while Dr. Pinker through a scientific approach, how beautiful it is for these two perspectives to be united and to find a common ground so that new wisdom can be born, and doesn't the light switch on occur at the meeting point of two different poles ?
There is spark of light in the eyes of who meditates ! It is practically visible in their face... I definitely don't know how, and i can never explain it.. i have never meditated! Wish i did!
This is nice video thank you @PeaceHow
Sadhguru is on a completely different (deeper) level of understanding.
What level that may be ?
@@SB-by5mt*deeper*
Indeed he is. But it's not a better or worse level, it is just different
Sadhguru means the assumed personal working name ...His inner status is the Vedic Satguru or One of Five Perfect Masters of the present Now...
When you put a person on a pedestal you will not see the mistakes they make
I love you sadhguru, the questions I have struggled with my entire life you look at entirely differently
Some people only see things in black and white and claim to acknowledge the gray areas, and there are the few that see, consider, and regard all aspects of existence. I love Sadhguru's take...
❤😢Sadhguru and Steven are both unique. They learn from each other. It's all about WISDOM & KNOWLEDGE. They are both needed for our world today. For The FULL FILLNESS OF LIFE. ❤❤❤
Sadhguru and Steven are both unique" - everybody is unique. Ever seen anybody not being unique?
I think is crazy how Sadhguru can just destroy this scientist arguments with such an ease and love.... From being a medical student and a passionate for neurosciences I can understand how we can get disconnected from our core. Thinking consciousness is a brain thing sounds right but it just show us how we are looking for answers outside when the truth is so so close. Thank you so much for existing sadhguru and giving us such a broad perspective available for everyone
I can bet on the fact that you aren’t a medical student. If you were , you wouldn’t have stated that Sadhguru destroyed Steven Pinker’s argument. Lol. Being in the medical field, I believe both of them kept their arguments from each other’s side and nobody superseded the other.
@@deepanshinegi4963 this scientist obviously haven’t explored meditation. This scientist is sooooo caught up in the fact that science is all there is. I was like that too. He didn’t even know the meaning of consciousness. He miss understood consciousness for awareness because he hasn’t done any inner work. Once you go there this become so clear that you have to drop all your academy stuff.
@@jorgenomentejust want to say you are absolutely right 👍🏻👍🏻
@@jorgenomentehave you done inner engineering, it's crazy what sadhguru can actually do
Highly recommended coz I though it's some bunch of instructions but it's real energetic initiation , he is a true guru 🔱🔥 ❤
@@jorgenomente Bro please don't lie you ain't no medical doctor or neuroscience expert. Don't get caught up in Sadhgurus word salad, use your brain and it's very easy to see that Sadhguru is simply twisting definitions and deflecting the point
In the end, Sadhguru embracing Prof Steven brings so much Joy !!!
Beautifully said Sadhguru 🙏🏾. You make me proud to belong to the Indian culture and its intelligence and humanity.
@PeaceHow
The scientist is very true and the access to information and its proper utilisation is the best way to live.
Thank you Mr. Sadhguru for having patience and compassion with Mr. Pinker. You are a wonderful teacher.
Mr pinker is ignorant
Here is proof that the intellect is a major obstacle as we can’t hear others when we are busy thinking. Skip class and go for a walk in nature!😂❤
Yup!! “If I have not witnessed it, it can’t happen” is the most non-intellectual stance to have.
he stills one of the best scientist in the world even if he is 100% rational. Science base on physicality is made that way. We didn't hold 1% of his knowledge.
@@Phil2535935 His foolishness is deterring and if science is based on his level of consciousness, ppl need to wake up and question science way more.
I know 😂at one point all I heard was blah blah blah.
@@numerologicatarot3333well in this case, it's an experience
Great conversation between knowing the outer world and the inner world. There is a balance when converging both into one. Seeing the world from the eye of the brain and knowing the earth from the eye of the spirit is a process. I believe Sadhguru helps bring awareness to our inner knowledge. The miracle is that the Earth holds all elements we humans need and science wants to extract them while in truth we should attract it. We can reach an understanding of this process through meditation.
About Sadguru I am completely speechless. Now a days As he discuss on every topic, it's shows How he is a great intellectual personality & orator with calm & so much patience. 🙏🙏
It just struck me that when you are focusing outward, you experience being the part exploring the parts. When you are focusing inward, you experience your relationship to an even greater whole within the realm that is consciousness. The key is to do BOTH simultaneously, with amount of focus varying depending on how you are moved to experience in the moment.
@waynehartman330 i dont understand this part "The key is to do BOTH simultaneously, with amount of focus varying depending on how you are moved to experience in the moment". ca you please explain in detail.
well said, thank you for that perception
Well said. Totally agree with you.
You cant do it simultaneously. You can either be in the material dimension or consciousness dimension. But one can flip flop.
The question I ask of everyone
"When, at what age, did you realized
that you are an existing entity?'
It really throws people in to a mental
struggle.
I felt anxious while listening to Prof. Steven explain about consciousness, and I calmed down immediately when Sadhguru started speaking. :)
Yeah thats true
😂
Oh
Truth might not always be calming, it's not a fantasy, reality can be joyful & painful aswell..
@@gametests Agreed.. however, as Einstein said, "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough".
Marvelous simplest way of expression.Incomparable Sadhguru.
Truth comes from life ❤
what is life
God did it
What is love
I look up to the guidance and words of wisdom from Sadhguru every time I'm down and out.
There is no down and out.....just up and in...shaking it all about.....Regards!?
Super grateful for this diverse shared discussion.
Thankyou Sadhguru for you and all you do.
💜
He said “synonym” I love you both
Professor I love you
Sadhguru you are so wise thank you
Incredibly wise conversation.
It's beautiful to se see both truths in one place
"Fundamental of seeking is that you have realized that you do not know",
"I do not know is the basis of longing to know and opens the possibility of knowing"
Logically understanding these sentences and Experientially knowing the same sentences made a world of a difference for me. Grateful !! THANK YOU SADHGURU !
Logical understanding is also based on the experimental understanding...can you point out any logic which doesn't have an experimental understanding or evidence!?!
But Sadhguru is not seeking....he stopped seeking just by saying it is a miracle... since we can't understand it completely...so just relax, watch & enjoy & say it is miracle... only science is working hard to understand the unknown...but these guru knows everything...
lol U don't even know what he is implying. Nice joke.@@Opinion_01
@@NoThing-ec9km Well i will be very pleased to hear your wisdom on this topic...how my comment is joke etc...
A rare combination of neuroscience and spirituality.Both are experts in their field and respect each other point of view. Thanks Sadguru ji to share this with us.
one stuck in his head, a giant ego inflation. the other full of possibilities.
who?@@upliftrr
I don't think the scientist respected Sadhguru too much...
What does he mean ,when he said people's faces changed ?
I think both talked the same, one exclusively on brain's conciousness and other inclusively on life's conciousness 👌👏💐💐🙏🙏 1:50:26
To discuss anything we need to agree on the definition. If not, this conversation can go on forever. To me life itself is a miracle!
As Sadhguru has already said in his previous speeches, you turn a bread into a human being. Isn't it a miracle?
MAY SADGURU BE LISTENED TO FAR AND WIDE!!!
The strength of Sadguru really shows through here… he is so patient and compassionate to play ball with these scientists while they chase their tails around their intellectual preoccupation with duality. Shambho
Exactly!
That's a very unbalanced appraisal of the discussion between the two men , the debate didn't produce a victory for either men , only , I would say , clear explanation of the two different understandings , the western scientific one , and the spiritual one the other . From a rational viewpoint science has the limiting factor in that it cannot disprove the spiritual , but the spiritual view cannot use science either to prove its own view . We are then go no further , only deeper in understanding perhaps , and with time lost .
He is a bs artist.
More like he tries at every step to lead the conversation from concrete, understandable and relatable topics into the realm of mirky mysticism with watery definitions. Which completely destroys any value that can be derived from this debate outside of confirming already held beliefs and biases (of, for example, "scientists chasing their tails").
@@michaeldowd5545he has helped millions of people experience a better existence and is also relentlessly trying to change our agriculture practices that are destroying our chance of continuing our civilization. If only all b.s artists were like this....
This video is a perfect example of take what resignates and what doesn't. Of being in perfect harmony verses in your mind or should I say OUT of your mind. I almost shut this off half way through because I just couldn't listen to the guy in the middle anymore, but I love Sadhguru and his gentle voice and his state of BE-ING...❤ This is a perfect debate to show what is going on in our 🌎 today. We have to all learn our true souls existence and LIVE it..💫💖
resonates
Great to see a conversation like this between science and spirituality.
Steven Pinker is stuck on the word "miracle" as Sadhguru said - as something that dupes people. I think it's a linguistic/cultural difference of how a western scientific person looks at life - purely from material and causal phenomenon v/s Sadhguru emphasizing on life as an experiential phenomenon
Their ideas of understanding is so rooted I presume.
Sadhguru emphasises life as an experiential and ‘INCLUSIVE’ phenomenon. It is the second part that creates all this confusion between science and spirituality. If u tell the scientist just the first thing he will say experience can be subjective n can be influenced by so many things hence subject to possible errors in perception. This is half understanding of life. Sadhguru is the first person who used this word inclusiveness to fill that understanding gap in my head about life. 🙏🏻😌
Pinker is stuck on much more than just language. He is stuck in his Ego that Sadhguru kindly qualified as " Education". Most educated people who have small Egos seek the truth their entire lives and know that they know nothing at all. Those are the greatest scientists. Think Tesla. Think Einstein. Think small Ego==> Great scientist.
very well said
@@vaibhavgurung5585 You have no idea how Science operates.
This was an incredible conversation! I'm happy that they came up with the idea for this discussion. It's a critical conversation to have.
What a fantastic conversation debate and rich vision by both the dignitaries ❤... Both have made phenomenal exercise about their studies and they have presented very well themselves... I do not see any arrogance in any of them... As an listener observer i feel so lucky to grasp their experience to validate my life experiences... 🙏🏻
WHEN YOU CAN'T HEAR A
DEFINITION
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AGREE IN THE CONVERSATION
EGORENCE
WHY
" AGE OF IGNORENCE " A.D.
EUROPE
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MISOLOGY
HARM - ony
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PEACEMA' NY !
Two great explainers !
Man... How much patience does sadhguru have to endure people like steven !!
That itself demands respect 🙏🙏
Hahaha
The shoes say it all
@@asv8104 have you tried thinking? It helps sometimes.
Correct.. Sadhguru at one point had to stop using the word Miracle and replace it with Magical experience😂 because the scientist was sticking to miracle in the western world meaning.
@@alexkreyn315again, thinking is a limited process that you are enduring 🤷♂️
Sadhguru answers according to context.
This was an intellectual discussion so his answers were quite direct.
Generally he answers in a way that the listener becomes more attentive & aware without making any conclusion. _He tries to push the listener towards liberation._
He once said "all that talk and all that is just to woo you " 😂😂🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
It is important, especially now, for there to be open discourse about this life without needing to be right. This is what I experienced here. It is then up to the listener to go inward and feel the truth and trust it.
An amazing conversation
Sadhguru is a super hero. He just doesn’t want people to worship cause they lose their own free will. You know he can do all that esp stuff. He just chooses to be normal. Which is smart and good for the world.
doesnt want people to worship what u mean by that?