Watching this on a gentoo system FTW! I originally was on arch linux but it wasn't challenging enough as well as I was getting bored. so a weekend of distro changing i somehow found my computer on debian (it didn't last very long) then I got a gentoo live dvd and a week later after network issues, kernel recompiles and package compiling and recompiling I have a working system.
Gentoo isn't a new distribution, it was created in 2003. Gentoo uses GCC, the difference between Gentoo and your typical distribution is that it is source-based, with distributions that aren't source-based you use applications other people have compiled. On source-based distributions you grab the source & compile it yourself, doing so allows you to pass your own flags in turn optimizing the applications for your machine.
The docs on the site are really helpful, and the more you try, the more you'll learn. So pop it in a virtual machine and give it a go!! You won't regret it, I promise...
I'm curious to use Gentoo. I've been using Slackware, Slax, Ubuntu, Fedora, Linuxmint, Arch, and Debian over the years. However I'm not sure where to start with gentoo.
Desktop I like Debian. APT is awesome to me. Laptop, I use Ubuntu because of issues I get with wireless drivers on Debian but I do the Netinstall now to get a minimum install and add my choice of window managers, and programs. For ARM computers I like arch. Bleeding edge updates seem to work very good on that platform so far. Slackware was my first Linux Distro. I really liked using it. It was extremely stable. I never came across a single bug using it. However there are not many offically supported programs and upgrading can be difficult. It uses pkgtool for package management.
TheIndustrialrocker Agreed on apt. Aptitude is far superior than apt-get and is more anlogous to yum. For instance, you have to use apt-cache to search since there's no apt-get search function, whereas if you use aptitude, it has a powerful search function. Even so, I don't use Debian enough to know if aptitude will do all package managment functions without having to use dpkg or other apt commands. With Yum based systems, nowadays you never have to leave yum to do anything as it can do any and all package related installation, removal, query, repo management, etc.(at least I've never come across something it can't do where I had to drop down to rpm) so it is a lot like aptitude.
As a Gentoo ex user i recommend starting in a virtualbox machine, reading the handbook while you install and using at first automatic kernel configuration.
People saying this aged poorly because Gentoo "goes binary": You know that these binaries are recommended if you have a slow machine, right? Better yet, why not use another binary distro if you have a slow machine in the first place? This video is ready for you when you take the leap to a faster machine capable of running a source-based distro!
Actually, no, don't. The handbook is outdated. Base the first part of the installation off of an Arch installation then after you download & extract the tarball go back to the handbook.
Far from it, but the install manual is easier than Arch imho. However, you need to understand how Linux systems work, and managing it is more work than Arch (although it is more stable). For newbies, I would recommend any of the Ubuntu based distros (Fedora and Opensuse I have no experience with). Newbie, go with one of the easy ones and learn to use the terminal first. It is definitely worth it!
Go for it, I dived in to Arch with minimal knowledge and I learned a lot from it... guess the same applies for Gentoo. Best way for not being a newbie anymore
Watching this on a gentoo system FTW! I originally was on arch linux but it wasn't challenging enough as well as I was getting bored. so a weekend of distro changing i somehow found my computer on debian (it didn't last very long) then I got a gentoo live dvd and a week later after network issues, kernel recompiles and package compiling and recompiling I have a working system.
Gentoo isn't a new distribution, it was created in 2003.
Gentoo uses GCC, the difference between Gentoo and your typical distribution is that it is source-based, with distributions that aren't source-based you use applications other people have compiled. On source-based distributions you grab the source & compile it yourself, doing so allows you to pass your own flags in turn optimizing the applications for your machine.
The docs on the site are really helpful, and the more you try, the more you'll learn. So pop it in a virtual machine and give it a go!! You won't regret it, I promise...
I wish there would be more talks like this on gentoo.
I'm curious to use Gentoo. I've been using Slackware, Slax, Ubuntu, Fedora, Linuxmint, Arch, and Debian over the years. However I'm not sure where to start with gentoo.
Which was your favourite of those distros? What was your Slackware experience like?
Desktop I like Debian. APT is awesome to me. Laptop, I use Ubuntu because of issues I get with wireless drivers on Debian but I do the Netinstall now to get a minimum install and add my choice of window managers, and programs. For ARM computers I like arch. Bleeding edge updates seem to work very good on that platform so far. Slackware was my first Linux Distro. I really liked using it. It was extremely stable. I never came across a single bug using it. However there are not many offically supported programs and upgrading can be difficult. It uses pkgtool for package management.
TheIndustrialrocker
Agreed on apt. Aptitude is far superior than apt-get and is more anlogous to yum. For instance, you have to use apt-cache to search since there's no apt-get search function, whereas if you use aptitude, it has a powerful search function. Even so, I don't use Debian enough to know if aptitude will do all package managment functions without having to use dpkg or other apt commands. With Yum based systems, nowadays you never have to leave yum to do anything as it can do any and all package related installation, removal, query, repo management, etc.(at least I've never come across something it can't do where I had to drop down to rpm) so it is a lot like aptitude.
As a Gentoo ex user i recommend starting in a virtualbox machine, reading the handbook while you install and using at first automatic kernel configuration.
The subtitles look to be about 40% accurate.
Yeah but "insulting hackers" sounds more interesting than "installing packages"
rtfm handbook of in the Beginn i had some Problems too but now its running all great
People saying this aged poorly because Gentoo "goes binary":
You know that these binaries are recommended if you have a slow machine, right? Better yet, why not use another binary distro if you have a slow machine in the first place?
This video is ready for you when you take the leap to a faster machine capable of running a source-based distro!
Actually, no, don't.
The handbook is outdated.
Base the first part of the installation off of an Arch installation then after you download & extract the tarball go back to the handbook.
If you can't make out what he's saying, subtitles are available in the video. Click on the "CC" icon.
Yeah, said no one ever.
The Arch wiki is generally better now, most of us in the #gentoo IRC network think this.
Can't here anything. Good video anyway :p
is gentoo for newbie
Far from it, but the install manual is easier than Arch imho. However, you need to understand how Linux systems work, and managing it is more work than Arch (although it is more stable). For newbies, I would recommend any of the Ubuntu based distros (Fedora and Opensuse I have no experience with). Newbie, go with one of the easy ones and learn to use the terminal first. It is definitely worth it!
I used to ubuntu and have some basic command
Go for it, I dived in to Arch with minimal knowledge and I learned a lot from it... guess the same applies for Gentoo. Best way for not being a newbie anymore
Very bad sound record, unfortunately
The CC is mostly nonsense. Just turn up your volume if you can barely hear him.
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