Everyone is asking for Liberty Prime as commander, and like every other upgrade video I've seen focuses on LP and not energy. Im personally glad SOMEONE is focusing on energy
2 minutes in and I see my GOAT Karn Legacy Reforged. I Love him in this deck, he was one of my first picks alongside OG urza (tho I figure he might be tough to fit in this/the 300 due to budget. I proxy everything so idk how much he is)
My Science! deck had 2 duplicates and was missing Expert Level Safe and Intelligence Bobblehead. I disagree with removing the soda machine. It allows you to continue to create energy even with no cards in hand.
Okay, I'm sorry, but I really have to downvote this video via comments. I've seen a couple of the precon updates and all have them have sought to make the deck into a super low-to-the-ground Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain deck (i.e., it's not about the artifacts, it's about the cantrip combos). A few of them have actually paid attention to get more energy generation. maybe adding 1-2 payoffs for energy, but none have paid any attention to the near total lack of removal. The problem with this approach is that copious card draw, with some light recursion, doesn't win a game (*just because your commander can do a thing, doesn't mean you don't want backups). THREATS win the game. There's a reason that big, expensive artifact threats tend to win games (e.g., Phyrexian Triniform or Steel Hellkite). As I see it you've got maybe 6 cards that can begin to win a game, such as Liberty Prime. As such, you've created a deck that's is frustrating to play, as you can't ever do anything (and the things can can win are removed immediately), while also being frustrating to play against (10 minute turns). I thought you guys knew what you were doing?
The deck itself I'd more focused around Li than Prime, so it makes sense to build more around her. Prime needs a lot more grave recursion and artifacts that want to be sent there to justify him at the helm.
@@hatchell18 Still currently only 62 card in Red/White/Blue that even say "{Energry}" on them, and one of those is the land Aether Hub. If you are able to jam a good amount of proliferate in the deck you might be able to keep a good pool of Energy Counter. But, as it sits right now there is still very little Energy support. Don't get me wrong, I bought the deck and I'm hyped to upgrade it with some of the older cards from KLD and AER, as well as the new cards coming in MH3. (I had one game already where I put Mechanized Production on my Panharmonicon, no one dealt with it for 5 upkeeps. Whirler Rogue made 12 1/1 Flying Thopters. I passed and an opponent attacked me with 13 creatures, 12 1/1s with haste and their 4/4 Caesar Commander. I cast Sentry Bot at flash speed and got 78 Energy from the EBT on Sentry Bot seeing 6 Panharmonicons. Spend all the energy into Automated Assembly Line, creating 26 3/3 Robots. I uptapped and won the game with combat damage, one turn aways from winning with Mechanized Production.)
Everyone is asking for Liberty Prime as commander, and like every other upgrade video I've seen focuses on LP and not energy. Im personally glad SOMEONE is focusing on energy
Electrostatic Pummeler, Consulate Surveillance, Aetherworks Marvel, just to name a few energy cards that would be good includes
The out of the box experience is straight Dogeat. Thank you for this
300$ go Liberty Prime 100%. For DEMOCRACY!
This
This was a amazing video. I just picked up the precon and have been looking to up grade it so thanks.
You’re welcome!
2 minutes in and I see my GOAT Karn Legacy Reforged. I Love him in this deck, he was one of my first picks alongside OG urza (tho I figure he might be tough to fit in this/the 300 due to budget. I proxy everything so idk how much he is)
I would love to see what you would do for liberty prime
Gotta try liberty prime!!! Excited for that one.
Can’t wait for the 300 dollar version I’m really excited about nuka cola vending machine for my clue spamming morska deck this is the best precon
This deck seems fun.
My Science! deck had 2 duplicates and was missing Expert Level Safe and Intelligence Bobblehead. I disagree with removing the soda machine. It allows you to continue to create energy even with no cards in hand.
Not with Li it doesn't, you have to cast to create energy with her
@@Zer0mac316doh! You're right! RTFC helps! Lol. Thanks for correcting me.
Okay, I'm sorry, but I really have to downvote this video via comments. I've seen a couple of the precon updates and all have them have sought to make the deck into a super low-to-the-ground Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain deck (i.e., it's not about the artifacts, it's about the cantrip combos). A few of them have actually paid attention to get more energy generation. maybe adding 1-2 payoffs for energy, but none have paid any attention to the near total lack of removal.
The problem with this approach is that copious card draw, with some light recursion, doesn't win a game (*just because your commander can do a thing, doesn't mean you don't want backups). THREATS win the game. There's a reason that big, expensive artifact threats tend to win games (e.g., Phyrexian Triniform or Steel Hellkite). As I see it you've got maybe 6 cards that can begin to win a game, such as Liberty Prime. As such, you've created a deck that's is frustrating to play, as you can't ever do anything (and the things can can win are removed immediately), while also being frustrating to play against (10 minute turns).
I thought you guys knew what you were doing?
I stopped at 0:44 because Liberty Prime is not the helm of this ship and that’s a sin
The deck itself I'd more focused around Li than Prime, so it makes sense to build more around her. Prime needs a lot more grave recursion and artifacts that want to be sent there to justify him at the helm.
Energy counters suck
Not anymore and in this deck with some upgrades they can be pretty busted
@@hatchell18 Still currently only 62 card in Red/White/Blue that even say "{Energry}" on them, and one of those is the land Aether Hub. If you are able to jam a good amount of proliferate in the deck you might be able to keep a good pool of Energy Counter. But, as it sits right now there is still very little Energy support.
Don't get me wrong, I bought the deck and I'm hyped to upgrade it with some of the older cards from KLD and AER, as well as the new cards coming in MH3.
(I had one game already where I put Mechanized Production on my Panharmonicon, no one dealt with it for 5 upkeeps. Whirler Rogue made 12 1/1 Flying Thopters. I passed and an opponent attacked me with 13 creatures, 12 1/1s with haste and their 4/4 Caesar Commander. I cast Sentry Bot at flash speed and got 78 Energy from the EBT on Sentry Bot seeing 6 Panharmonicons. Spend all the energy into Automated Assembly Line, creating 26 3/3 Robots. I uptapped and won the game with combat damage, one turn aways from winning with Mechanized Production.)
Please liberty prime already, everyone is asking ????!
Well just lost a viewer. Everyone asks for something and you blow us off lol. Need prime upgrade , don’t see what’s so hard about it. Peace out
Sorry to hear that!