My Polycarbonate Greenhouse Nightmare continued. The do's and don't, mainly the don'ts.

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  • Опубликовано: 30 окт 2024

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  • @rjinhobart7748
    @rjinhobart7748 3 года назад +9

    In Australia we have pretty strong consumer laws. It would likely be deemed not fit for purpose and you'd get your money back. If a product is sold into a known wind and snow area then it should be fit to take the likely loads where it was sold. Suppliers can't 'fine print' their way out of the warranty given by the law.

  • @matthewmeier419
    @matthewmeier419 Год назад +4

    Oh do I wish I'd seen this video prior to purchasing. You have expressed just about every thought that went through my head! Build and keep it inside another building...yes.

  • @tracyruth4247
    @tracyruth4247 3 года назад +8

    Looks like they have all bases covered as to NOT be responsible for anything! I hope all of your hard work pays off and keeps your greenhouse safe! 😊

  • @markfrancis9106
    @markfrancis9106 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for the info. Very close to getting one, glad you posted video👍👍

  • @ColinMill1
    @ColinMill1 2 года назад +2

    I think the issue is the way these companies simply substitute 4 or 6mm polycarbolate twinwall in place of glass rather than designing a greenhouse specifically for polycarbonate. This is all very unfortunate as it gives polycarbonate a bad reputation it doesn't deserve. We are in an extremely exposed area and have a greenhouse and cold-frames made using 10mm twinwall polycarbonate and these are about 9 years old and we have had no problems at all. However, these structures use 45x70mm treated timber as the minimum structural material and the twinwall is screwed at regular intervals to the wooden frame using 4mm woodscrews with "penny" washers under the heads for load spreading. This method of fixing copes with the flexibility of the polycarbonate where clipping the stuff into a frame just doesn't.
    The Polycrubs are a good example of how a greenhouse that is designed to make maximum use of the strength of polycarbonate can produce a hurricane-resistant greenhouse even when only using 4mm twinwall.

  • @marktoldgardengnome4110
    @marktoldgardengnome4110 3 года назад +4

    Sales of product for a specific use, that can't last under "normal" use, should
    be illegal. Especially if by simply printing same solicited words on a
    purposely smaller carton that automatically relieves them of any responsibility
    based on the fact that you bought it anyway.
    What "waters my garden" off is when the disclaimer is printed on the instruction sheet
    that is inside of the sealed box it was shipped in! OOOFDAAAA
    TYFS Jim, Stay Safe and Well
    Mark and Rosa

  • @lindakiefer9865
    @lindakiefer9865 3 года назад +3

    I have a 4ft x8ft lean to one. We reinforced the structure with 2inch x2 inch interior framing. This also allows for hanging baskets from the 2x2s. The fromework will also support shade cloth if needed. You can insulate the house with bubble wrap affixed with clear tape if you want . i use the 24inch wide kind with a 1inch bubble. Put the bubble towards the glass. It comes in rolls and is quite reasonably priced.

  • @wrongwayconway
    @wrongwayconway 3 года назад +5

    Best advice: "build it in a shed" 🤣🤣 gave me a good laugh. Merry Christmas from 🇨🇦

  • @joanmacleod1362
    @joanmacleod1362 3 года назад +1

    My chuckle for the day. Cheers and Merry Christmas from Canada 🇨🇦

  • @sher152
    @sher152 3 года назад +2

    Another great video. I enjoy your sense of humor.

  • @kimstockwell721
    @kimstockwell721 Год назад +1

    Wow, I was gonna buy one, thanks for this, you saved me a ton of hassle .

  • @angelomisterioso
    @angelomisterioso Год назад +1

    Started the installation on mine. Have to spend quite a bit just to reinforce the thing. Wouldn't dare leave Three Little Pigs inside because the Big Bad Wolf wouldn't have to do very much huffing and puffing to knock this house of cards down.

  • @lyndamead123
    @lyndamead123 3 года назад +8

    Bought one exactly like yours Jim and never even had a chance to put a plant in it. A puff of wind came that week and parts of it were delivered back to me by neighbours who had more of my greenhouse then I did! I'm still pondering on how to cobble together a greenhouse with the bits I have...it may have to become a cold frame.

  • @melodytenisch6232
    @melodytenisch6232 3 года назад +2

    I would be ticked off too but sure love your sense of humor! One of my grandkids would say, "That sucks!" Greetings; hope it gets better soon. 2021 better be better than this year! So I pray. If I lived near I'd offer to buy you and your wife a pint...after the pandemic; even with the nightmare of your greenhouse, a garden is still preferable to being in public. Your words of advice are appreciated and your videos are welcome as the sunlight in dark times. Many thanks HGV.👵😊🎶🌱🍀🎄🎇

  • @HomeGrownVeg
    @HomeGrownVeg  Год назад +2

    If you know anyone who is planning to purchase or build a greenhouse this video might just save them from a catastrophe. Hit the Share icon above this text and send them a link to this video on one of your social media platforms. It's what a good friend would do.

  • @ronaldandsusanshaws-growing
    @ronaldandsusanshaws-growing 3 года назад +1

    Well Jim, I'm more confident about my greenhouse that I built myself more than ever after watching this video and am I glad I built my own YESSSSS I am, Take care and thank you for sharing this unbelievable stuff.

    • @Missy-dee
      @Missy-dee 3 года назад +1

      I’ve got one of these. Don’t like it at all. My dad built one for my mum and it’s amazing. Was cheaper to build hers than buy mine.

  • @thefixerguy1
    @thefixerguy1 Год назад +1

    Thank you for this

  • @louiseharper7850
    @louiseharper7850 3 года назад +1

    Best step forward is before you buy ANYTHING, read the bad feedback, just the bad feedback, because most positive feedback is phoney to boost the product. Then you get a better picture of what your looking at. There are many instances where ive bought things "blind", so before you pay read the comments that say nay!

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  3 года назад

      Hello Louise. This should have been another 'warning'. Several other greenhouses from other manufacturers had customer reviews, this one had no reviews. I wonder why??? HGV

  • @cherrygripe4961
    @cherrygripe4961 Год назад +1

    omg Im so happy. I bought my poly greenhouse, same size and everything, its in transit to me now and I find your videos now. Im bloody doomed.

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  Год назад +1

      When I built mine Cherry I had no idea that within days I would be fighting to keep it in one piece. Fighting in the dark, in a rain storm. Now you have watched this video your ahead of the game. The best spot to sight your greenhouse is the most sheltered spot (if you have one). Plan on how your going to hold it down and how your going to secure all the sheets. Get some good helpers on build day and only start it if you have a few calm days forecast. Plenty of mastic along the edges off the sheets will keep them in. The tile edging I got from a kitchen DIY shop. They gave me the gold for about 50p a length I think because nobody wanted gold in their kitchen. It was a snip with lots of holes along its length that I could 'line up' with the frame. Add strength wherever you can and think positive. Good Luck Jim.

    • @cherrygripe4961
      @cherrygripe4961 Год назад +1

      @@HomeGrownVeg thanks so much for the info Jim, very helpful and the first place I was going to put the greenhouse is not where its going now lol, its going in a more snug area between a shed and the corner of two fences :)

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  Год назад +2

      @@cherrygripe4961 The big mistake new gardeners make is to site their greenhouse where it gets most sun usually in the middle of the garden where unfortunately it also gets most wind which then relocates it in their neighbors garden. Jim.

  • @EVERBEE_SEWING_BEE
    @EVERBEE_SEWING_BEE 3 года назад +3

    Dear Santa,
    Remember when I asked for a Polycarbonate Greenhouse this Christmas, and you said yes, because I've been good all year?
    I've changed my mind.
    Can I have a 2 week, all expenses paid holiday to the Canary Islands instead?
    The costs are about the same so ...
    Ta!
    Seriously, I'm so sorry this happened to you, this greenhouse was a wrong-un from the start. I wish you had sent it back as soon as you realised 'they' had damaged it to fit the box. Time to name and shame so others don't fall into the same trap.

  • @Cardsnatcherz
    @Cardsnatcherz 7 месяцев назад

    Glad I watched this. Sure helped for placement on mine.

  • @davidravenscroft1641
    @davidravenscroft1641 Год назад +1

    I'm building one now.... it's an absolute nightmare!!!!.
    The frame is flimsy,the instructions are absolutely useless and the panels took ages to actually get to fit the frame.
    I've nearly finished,but still having problems with the door not fitting the runner.
    I've manufactured bits myself (extra wooden support around the base at the front).
    Never again will I attempt anything similar,ever again! Lol

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  Год назад

      The biggest mistake I made David was not to watch gardener produced videos on Polycarbonate greenhouses. If I had I wouldn't have got one! That's why I produced this series of videos to 'tell it how it is'. With a lot of extra bits and bods I have managed to keep mine intact for 3 years. If you assume its going to be blown away, or fall down, or your going to lose sheets 'beef it up' as best you can. I know that feeling in your gut, I've had it. Best of luck. Jim.

  • @jamesgoacher1606
    @jamesgoacher1606 3 года назад +1

    Bit like the scene at the desk of the Rental company in the Fil Trains and Trains (something Like) with Steve Martin when the lady says "you're screwed". " Have a nice day".

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  3 года назад +1

      Hello James. Plains Trains and Automobiles. Just watched it this week on TV. "you're screwed". " Have a nice day", just about sums it up!. HGV

    • @jamesgoacher1606
      @jamesgoacher1606 3 года назад

      @@HomeGrownVeg :-)) I am sure you did something a while back as to how you strengthened you G'House. That one looked new!!!
      Have a good Christmas fella. Still got to get my seed potatoes btw. Hope you have some Chritmas Potatoes ???? for the day.

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  3 года назад

      @@jamesgoacher1606 Hello James. Not long till my Christmas potato 6 bucket shoot out. HGV

  • @ColRubyDimplesManacha
    @ColRubyDimplesManacha 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for the warnings, yikes!

  • @jackosallotment6224
    @jackosallotment6224 3 года назад +3

    You need to tell us who the company is cheers 🍻

  • @nicamnad
    @nicamnad Год назад +1

    Where do you live? I just secured my green house to a concrete slab with a wood base frame. Sealed all cracks. Withstands 60 mph winds, with ease.

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  Год назад

      That's the greenhouse held down Daniel, now lets hope your additional work holds it together. Biggest problem seams to be sheets blowing out rather than the greenhouse blowing down. My advise, mastic all the sheets along their edges too the frame. Have a good gardening year. Jim.

  • @notofthisworld7777
    @notofthisworld7777 2 месяца назад

    What was the wind mph?
    Followed your advice but used aluminium angle bead from wicks as those edging strips are £20 each.
    Angle beads 10 for £24.50
    Added some stakes to each one too
    We experiended 52 mph winds yesterday 22.8.24.
    Luckily survived.
    I had a shade cloth over top.as well.
    Will be adding wooden supports inside as well to incorporate raised beds and shelving.
    Thanks for your ideas.

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  2 месяца назад

      Sounds like your on top of it. Be safe. Jim.

  • @sheilathomas8528
    @sheilathomas8528 3 года назад

    As I said moral of the tale ( don't buy polycarbonate greenhouse). I bought one about 5 years ago, l even had a chap from the firm I bought it from to fit the greenhouse for me. It was fitted in the September, and it was blown to bits by the following February, and yes 7 hundred pounds down the drain. In my experience, do not buy polycarbonate greenhouses,. If you can go for glass, they will stand up to the wind, far better than any polycarbonate greenhouse. Thanks for sharing.

  • @patgentry7268
    @patgentry7268 3 года назад

    I got a low-cost polycarbonate greenhouse, too. But I put a bunch of rebar connecting it to the ground, threw shade cloth over top (so half would take ferns/orchids/seed flats), then used tie-downs to hold the whole thing heavy to the ground. Since that time, I’ve added a shade house to one side, made of bamboo, and lots of planters and a potting bench to make the composite structure pretty stable. No way I could afford the fancy ones, and so far this has been up two years with no problems.

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  3 года назад

      Hello Pat. The weather man has just told us (Jan 2021) the current atmospheric conditions are similar to those that brought 'The Beast from the East' to the UK. It's expected, so all we can do is 'hunker down' and hope we still have a greenhouse at its passing. Thanks for your comment, sounds like your sorted. HGV

  • @vivsalittlebitcrafty4854
    @vivsalittlebitcrafty4854 3 года назад +3

    Name and shame the company, the rotters!!

  • @johnandcarolynmills3061
    @johnandcarolynmills3061 3 года назад

    Thanks for the smile Jim, Let the ( buyer beware ) Looks like here in Canada I will have to use Bricks. Merry Christmas from across the Pond.

  • @terry902
    @terry902 3 года назад

    An ongoing saga... I thought about needing it to be built inside just before you said it! LOL. Wishing you the best of luck! I am eyeing my Christmas potatoes. Two weeks to go and they are looking very scraggly. I am waiting to harvest on the 24th even if the die back just for the fun of it. No rain here in months! Tuesday was 83F and 36F night here in California, almost 50 degree swing. Weird weather, pandemic raging, your videos bring a chuckle and lighten the load. Blessings to you and yours over the holidays. 🙏💕

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  3 года назад

      Hello Terry. All my potatoes are now dead in the bucket. Six bucket shoot out to look forward too.

  • @villiehaizlip7626
    @villiehaizlip7626 3 года назад

    Merry Christmas!😁🍵☃️🎄🎉

  • @grumbleweed5570
    @grumbleweed5570 3 года назад

    Hello Jim....I've had several greenhouses over the years..Back in the 70s I built one, I used to go in the pub telling all my mates how it was going. I cheesed them off so much that when it was finished they put it up for sale in the local advertiser for a prank😂. I actually had a couple of people turn up to buy it😂. All the best.....Jim

  • @1fanger888
    @1fanger888 3 года назад

    Hi HGV. I do believe, given the troubles you have had with this thing, you should sit down and make two lists. List the advantages on one side and the disadvantages on the other and decide whether you should sell it while it is still in one piece and cut any future possible losses.

  • @AlysUnchained2567
    @AlysUnchained2567 Год назад

    I finally went over to Amazon and watched one of these polycarbonate greenhouses being built. It was being built in a room and it looked like a dawdle. Occasionally the flexibility of the frame pieces could actually be seen. The whole video was only 8 minutes and some seconds. Now, that being said, maybe building one in the house (because I live in the mountains) and having fresh greens and tomatoes for salads all winter could be a possibility. I would probably just get one that is a pop-up frame with a canopy for that purpose.

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  Год назад +1

      I can remember saying 'tongue in cheek' To avoid the wind and rain, especially the wind, these are best built in a shed or garage. Jim.

  • @eliandkate
    @eliandkate 3 года назад +1

    Oh no.... every time I see something about problems with polycarbonate greenhouses, it seems to be you.
    I'm starting to worry about you now :)

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  3 года назад +1

      I'm fine. Just wanted to get 'something off my chest' and perhaps forewarn others. As long as the sellotape hold out the greenhouse will be fine too. HGV

  • @jazzbansal8097
    @jazzbansal8097 6 месяцев назад

    I have to say I brought 2 for my uncle I do have practical skills .. this greenhouse was a nightmare to put together
    I would not recommend it
    DO NOT BUY THESE VERY EXPENSIVE FOR WHAT THEY ARE

  • @robinrummel1359
    @robinrummel1359 3 года назад

    Build it inside a shed... 😂😂😂 Your warranty excludes everything... 😢😝😕. The way of too many things these days! It's not nice to be amused at the expense of another person but I have to confess I laughed at more than one of your comments. Taking your advice to heart, no polycarbonate greenhouse for me! ☺️💕👍

  • @tb7077
    @tb7077 2 года назад

    Plants looking good.

  • @BOBBENNS
    @BOBBENNS 3 года назад +1

    Who did you buy it from

  • @teddybear1829
    @teddybear1829 9 месяцев назад

    Is the light the plants get just as good as glass or not?

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  9 месяцев назад

      Probably not but I've managed to grow some nice tomatoes in my polycarbonate.

    • @teddybear1829
      @teddybear1829 9 месяцев назад

      @@HomeGrownVeg aslong as it’s as 90% as effective

  • @ReoAard
    @ReoAard 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks

  • @tropicaltanklover2160
    @tropicaltanklover2160 10 месяцев назад +1

    I too can testify... they are utter junk. Lost 3 panels so far

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  10 месяцев назад

      Its just past Christmas and we are having lots of rain, snow and strong winds (by UK standards). Bet there are polycarbonate panels blowing out all over the place. Jim.

  • @dorothywitt7966
    @dorothywitt7966 Год назад

    What happens if the direction book is eaten by the dog? Can I get another book? I don't know how to contact them

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  Год назад

      It's a struggle with the book. Not sure how you'll resolve this. Best of luck. Jim.

    • @mangeload
      @mangeload 2 месяца назад

      I was able to locate a build instruction pdf for download off temu, If you can find your model. I considered buying one until I looked at the pdf and watched this video.

  • @suemcdonagh7650
    @suemcdonagh7650 3 года назад

    I bought one a couple years ago for my allotment plot, worse thing I've bought!!

  • @WthrLdy
    @WthrLdy 2 года назад

    You should see what I had to do to our Harbor Freight poly greenhouse to keep it up, but I did it from day one. It's been ridiculous the number of modifications. So far 75 mph and just fine. Lost one panel I didn't secure (my fault) I left a lower vent open and lost a small panel when tornado past near by, winds of 82 - but not a real problem to replace.

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  2 года назад +3

      I got mine up and within days we had 2 storms that nearly lifted the roof off and had it coming apart at the seams. They should come with a health warning! Here's to a good growing year ahead. Jim.

    • @uprightfossil6673
      @uprightfossil6673 Год назад

      @@HomeGrownVeg these greenhouses are best used as cold frames inside the main greenhouse. Mine has blown apart several times as well. It won’t anymore though.

  • @stevenrichards11
    @stevenrichards11 3 года назад

    Have you tried a tea light in a terreacotta plant pot as a greenhouse heater ?
    My old greenhouse used to fail on the spring clips on the windows they were forever falling out .
    Can see the miner in you coming out worrying about struts .
    Have a great christmas and a much better 2021 !

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  3 года назад

      Hello Steven. I can still remember the hydraulic props on the coal face 'pinging' as the weight came on. Strangely enough, happy days. A better new year for all of us I hope. Jim.

  • @KarlaRei
    @KarlaRei 3 года назад +1

    If I can't throw a bbq rave party in it, what good is it?
    Great video and thank you! I had thought about getting one like this to save effort but I'm just going to build a good wooden one!

    • @watermelonlalala
      @watermelonlalala 3 года назад

      I could see people thinking, oh, it's too windy and I want to burn these papers or these twigs, I need some ash for the soil, I'll just put the fire pit in the green house...

  • @dahutful
    @dahutful 3 года назад

    Love it!

  • @cammi9948
    @cammi9948 3 года назад

    Hi Im looking into all this and want to know if you actually recommend getting this?

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  3 года назад

      This particular modal of greenhouse is flimsy and needed lots of extra work to strengthen it. There has got to be better constructed greenhouses out there. Just remember when you site your greenhouse, 'the wind is the enemy'! Jim.

    • @cammi9948
      @cammi9948 3 года назад

      @@HomeGrownVeg it appears to me that they all suffer this problem apparent from incredibly expensive ones. So Im currently considering if getting one is a good idea or not

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  3 года назад

      @@cammi9948 A combination of poor quality and a very windy spell nearly did for my greenhouse. Better quality and better siting might have been the way to go. Jim.

  • @rjram6010
    @rjram6010 6 месяцев назад

    the reference " U get what your pay for ..is in regards to cheap materials and quality ... ..not nightmares...

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  6 месяцев назад

      I'm sure we all understood "U get what you pay for".
      Here's another one to go with it , " fit for purpose" .

  • @dixxebell
    @dixxebell 3 года назад +1

    LoL...what exactly does the warrant cover??? Nada!

  • @lesleyobrien4661
    @lesleyobrien4661 3 года назад

    I wish I’d seen this before I bought mine.

  • @freddysart4005
    @freddysart4005 Год назад +1

    Think you were looking for a brick house. Seems to me anybody would know these thing about greenhouses.

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  Год назад +1

      I tried to comment, to write a review on the manufacturers you tube channel. Comments were switched off. Tells you all you need to know about the product.

  • @123roger4321
    @123roger4321 3 года назад

    I know to my cost that they are weak and should not be allowed to be sold as outside structures I v got a lean to greenhouse where as you build the greenhouse the polycarbonate sheets slide in to the frame so if as mine did blow out you have to diss mantle it compleatly I might do a you tube video of it to warm others not to buy the one I v got as now I am only left with the frame it’s screwed to the wall of my shed so now I v got to work out how I am going to sheet it with out dismantling it 249 .00 pounds down the drain we live and learn only in my case it’s been an exspensive error

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  3 года назад

      Your right. These things are built 'bottom up' and the sheets are captivated in slots as the build progresses. When a sheet blows out, to get it back into the slots requires the greenhouse to be taken apart 'top down' and now more sheets are falling out. Nightmare!!!! Jim.

  • @angelinegrows7765
    @angelinegrows7765 3 года назад

    Oh my goodness !

  • @JH-fv1gq
    @JH-fv1gq 3 года назад

    Thats a lot of " responsibilities " to burden yourself with 😂

  • @neild8658
    @neild8658 Год назад

    You should have named the company

  • @HomeGrownVeg
    @HomeGrownVeg  5 месяцев назад

    If your planning on catching some rain water this is how I do it with my home made zero cost water but siphon system: studio.ruclips.net/user/videodAnJ_DvPgb4/edit

  • @ourv9603
    @ourv9603 10 месяцев назад

    Every GH kit I have seen here in the US the sliding door slides to the RIGHT.
    YOUR GH, slides to the LEFT. Just like UK cars, on the wrong side. Thats
    HILARIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  10 месяцев назад

      Have you also noticed that when you slide the door to the right to go into your greenhouse you slide it to the left when you come out!!!!!!!! How do they do that?????????

  • @kendonian357
    @kendonian357 2 года назад

    LMAO this is hilarious, grandads guide to you tube 😂😂😂

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  2 года назад

      After a few sleepless nights looking out of the bedroom window at a greenhouse in trouble then 'beefing up' my greenhouse I can smile at my antics now, but at the time I was nearly a nerves wreck. Jim.

  • @ardentizzy7720
    @ardentizzy7720 9 месяцев назад

    Made me laugh 😂😂 well done 😂

  • @rjram6010
    @rjram6010 6 месяцев назад

    as the saying goes .. you get what you pay for ..? period

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  6 месяцев назад

      Well that's not strictly true. I paid for a greenhouse and got a nightmare.

  • @HomeGrownVeg
    @HomeGrownVeg  3 года назад

    There may be some good aluminum / polycarbonate greenhouses out there and you may have one. Good or bad, please share your aluminum / polycarbonate greenhouses experience with us. Thanks HGV PS. This will definitely put a smile on your face: ruclips.net/video/84AMaUbaY7w/видео.html

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  3 года назад

      First 1000 views and no recommendation as yet for a 'good' polycarbonate just tales of trouble. HGV

  • @HomeGrownVeg
    @HomeGrownVeg  Год назад

    The sun's now eating my greenhouse! ruclips.net/video/DShaIEdV38g/видео.html

  • @smalrast
    @smalrast Месяц назад

    Confucis says. You get what you pay for.

    • @HomeGrownVeg
      @HomeGrownVeg  Месяц назад

      Apparently so but Confucius never did any internet shopping. smalrast - smartarse not a lot in it. Have a nice day.

  • @mikeharrington5593
    @mikeharrington5593 3 года назад

    Rigid