Richard awesome review very detailed. I feel like I know a lot about this bike now, as you know, I live in New Hampshire we have a lot of hills. I’m looking for a powerful bike, not so much for the speed, but the ability to climb hills without sacrificing loss of speed. I think thanks to you this bike just made the shortlist.
Super sharp. When I purchased my bike (Mokwheel Besalt) in Late June/early July and it arrived on a Tuesday in early August fully installed unexpected a few days earlier..lol. But, I'd say I have some suspicion questions about the install and how did it already have 80 + miles on it. Unless I'm just misreading or understanding something. I didn't really have a clue and just as I have watched videos over time, I'm thinking there's an actual mileage count on this thing like there are vehicles. Which, I still have no clue. It probably doesn't even matter. I get the trip for you to keep track of your miles. I just thought about maybe my bike/ battery was tested for the 80 mile range that it suposebly has? I barely use the trottle and my main peddle assist is always on #3. I ride my bike to and from work 3 days a week and that together is only 7 miles to and back if that. Then I ride with a friend/coworker on my other two days. My battery never dies and it hasn't yet. But, it gets down to the last bar on my 2nd week of riding it again for the 3 days I have to get back and forth to work from home. I mean in my mind, if my work is 3 miles away and 3 miles back home and I only do that twice in 2 weeks. Which is 18 miles in 3 days and 18 miles the the next week on pedal assist #3 those whole 6 days. My battery on the screen will approximately get to the lowest bar and flash on the last battery level. But if u times the 18 miles time 2, which is 36 miles. Its lagitmintly not pulling an 80 mile range. Now, I do very seldom use the trottle. And that's to go off the side walk to just hurry up and cross a railroad track and ease my way back on the side walk. Which is probably 500ft. But, like I said, its never died on me. I just find myself to make sure I charge it at the end of my 2nd week at the end of my 3rd day riding it only 3 miles to and 3 miles back. I still wouldn't trade this bike for the world. Because I love it! I'm just confused where the "80 miles range" comes from or stands. It's a Mokwheel Besalt. I wonder if I'm doing something wrong. Because it's definitely not 80 mile range. I don't go up heels either. Do u have any suggestions?
@@bryanblanton2046 you have to understand the manufacturer when they make the claim of 60 to 80 miles that’s under perfect conditions in the lowest past setting, no stops and starts, level ground, relatively lightweight rider, no accessories, The tires are probably over inflated and probably a very fresh battery. Meaning it was manufactured recently. When I look at battery claims I consider the fact that I’m going to probably run in 60% power range, which would be approximately PAS 3 with a lot of hills, and I usually have to go through the city a little bit, which means stop and starts and the bike will be set to class 3 again using more power. So with all that in consideration, I would say with their 60 to 80 mile range 35 would be my magic number. You also have to understand that batteries degrade about 20% a year if kept at a full state and probably somewhere around 15% if it was stored at 50% charge so if that battery was sitting on the shelf for year, and before the battery was assembled how long were the cells sitting around as each cell is an individual battery, get my point. As to why your bike had 80 miles on it that doesn’t sound right, bike should come with 0 miles on it. Don’t know if this helped you but feel free to ask any questions you want.
THe stated range ebike companies post is best conditions in a lab. Its not realistic. Cut it in half and your probably on the mark. Also, they don't do 80 miles of testing. The most i have seen on any ebke was about 3 miles. You received a used one, returned one, or someone borrowed it from the factory. They don't come completely assembled. @@bryanblanton2046
Excellent review! I've purchased an Obsidian and it should be arriving within a week. They are a little slow to ship and I've heard some bad press about their customer support. That said, time will tell. Thank you for the work on this!
Great job...Great review. Beautiful color and frame. Altus is perfect for road and torque sensor is very nice. And for some people..Brick and Morter store option is good.
They are great bikes, and customer service is improving I have been told. Check for a local dealer, but make sure they will honor the online price. My local dealer tried to charge me $200 more when I purchase the Scoria last year.
I can’t talk myself into this until that back rack is available! I need that, but ya it’s a beauty and excellent price for 1000 watt full suspension! Keep us updated on the rack please
Hey Richard out of curiosity, I saw ur video on the basalt to unlock it.. do u know what the “intensity” setting is?. It’s 1-5 and preset to 3. Is this assist level?
i asked mokwheel about the rack. they wouldn't guarantee if i ordered one now that it would have the nutserts in the rear sway bar. as shown in yours. how can you install a rack without the tapped holes? your bike has a water bottle mount setup. mokwheel said the obsidian didn't have that because of clearance. can you help me clarify i really would like one, but need a rack and water bottle setup. thanks randy
All I can do when it comes to Mokwheel, is shake my head. I really don't know everything that is going on over there. Its been typical now for over a year, models keep shipping with different specs, so you really don't know what your going to get. I heard they have two separate factories building their bikes and that would contribute to the confusion. Your best option may be to find a dealer, call them, and see if they have one with the rack inserts. I don't use a water bottle holder, but, it would be hard to insert a water bottle because there is very little room between the down tube and the top bar.
awesome thanks. have you ridden the basalt st? i know the wattage difference between the two bikes. i like the basalt for the rack and price but will i be happy riding off trail on a basalt? probably 20% off road and 80% on road@@EbikeReviews
I had the first generation Basalt ST when it was a cadence sensor. Its a very nice ride, but without the rear suspension. If your riding easy trails, nothing rough, then sure, its a good option. But, you may also want to look at the New Lectric XPeak, its a very nice ride too. We unboxed it yesterday and released the video this morning. @@randywood2377
Mokwheel has been hit or miss on the customer service. Their bikes are awesome, some of the better quality I have seen. But if buy online and ever need help, you may get it right away, or not. So its a little bit of a risk. They have improved a lot, from their humble beginnings about 2 years ago. They have dealers, I would recommend looking in your area for one. However, dealers may charge more since they assembled it and you can expect to pay taxes. Definitely a better deal online. My #1 recommended saddle is made by Bluewind. You can find it here: amzn.to/3PSMnlV
I wonder how many people run into problems with authorities with the fact that the bike is unclassified and has 1000 watt motor, which is above the 750 watt limit I believe is imposed in some areas.
Just so you know, it's not good for a rear rack to move up and down with the rear wheel. That's why it has no rear rack. This guy seemed obsessed with putting a rear rack on this bike. The kind that attaches to the seat post will work.
Purchasing the Mokwheel Obsidian might initially seem like a good idea, but upon closer examination, this bike is riddled with issues that make it less of a trailblazer and more of a trail-bummer. Here's why you might want to steer clear. Firstly, the Mokwheel Obsidian masquerades as a mountain bike, but don't be fooled. Its build and performance scream "casual city cruiser" at best. If you're looking to hit the rugged trails, this bike will not be your ally. One of the most alarming issues arises with the basic assembly of the bike. The front wheel bolts are inexcusably close to the frame, making it nearly impossible to secure the wheel properly with a standard wrench (which they provide). This design flaw not only makes for a frustrating assembly process but also raises serious safety concerns about the wheel's security during rides. Adding insult to injury, the bike comes with a trunk bag accessory package that is essentially useless unless you fork out extra cash for a rear rack. This feels like a blatant attempt to nickel and dime customers, further soured by the fact that the included chain and hub assembly are so poorly constructed that even a minor ride off a small curb can lead to damage. Yes, the very first time I took it for a spin, the loose chain smacked against the frame, chipping the paint-a cost that would fall on me if I chose to return the bike. Speaking of returns, Mokwheel's policy could only be described as draconian. Want to return the bike? Hope you haven't so much as peeked inside the box, because anything beyond that and you're looking at a flurry of fees: a 5% credit card fee, a 20% restocking fee, $150 in shipping costs plus another $150 if you need to ship it back. And don't get me started on the accessories-non-refundable even if unopened! My attempt to return a trailer proved futile when I discovered parts were already broken upon opening. To top it all off, the bike arrives with several small zip-lock bags filled with screws but no instructions on where they should be placed. This oversight could leave less experienced buyers in a real bind, turning what should be the simple task of assembly into a puzzling ordeal. In conclusion, the Mokwheel Obsidian is a prime example of how not to build or sell a bike. From its misleading marketing and poor construction to its exorbitant hidden costs and customer-unfriendly policies, this bike fails to deliver on almost every front. Buyers would do well to consider other options unless they're looking for a costly headache.
Richard awesome review very detailed. I feel like I know a lot about this bike now, as you know, I live in New Hampshire we have a lot of hills. I’m looking for a powerful bike, not so much for the speed, but the ability to climb hills without sacrificing loss of speed. I think thanks to you this bike just made the shortlist.
Happy I could help.
Super sharp. When I purchased my bike (Mokwheel Besalt) in Late June/early July and it arrived on a Tuesday in early August fully installed unexpected a few days earlier..lol. But, I'd say I have some suspicion questions about the install and how did it already have 80 + miles on it. Unless I'm just misreading or understanding something. I didn't really have a clue and just as I have watched videos over time, I'm thinking there's an actual mileage count on this thing like there are vehicles. Which, I still have no clue. It probably doesn't even matter. I get the trip for you to keep track of your miles. I just thought about maybe my bike/ battery was tested for the 80 mile range that it suposebly has? I barely use the trottle and my main peddle assist is always on #3. I ride my bike to and from work 3 days a week and that together is only 7 miles to and back if that. Then I ride with a friend/coworker on my other two days. My battery never dies and it hasn't yet. But, it gets down to the last bar on my 2nd week of riding it again for the 3 days I have to get back and forth to work from home. I mean in my mind, if my work is 3 miles away and 3 miles back home and I only do that twice in 2 weeks. Which is 18 miles in 3 days and 18 miles the the next week on pedal assist #3 those whole 6 days. My battery on the screen will approximately get to the lowest bar and flash on the last battery level. But if u times the 18 miles time 2, which is 36 miles. Its lagitmintly not pulling an 80 mile range. Now, I do very seldom use the trottle. And that's to go off the side walk to just hurry up and cross a railroad track and ease my way back on the side walk. Which is probably 500ft. But, like I said, its never died on me. I just find myself to make sure I charge it at the end of my 2nd week at the end of my 3rd day riding it only 3 miles to and 3 miles back. I still wouldn't trade this bike for the world. Because I love it! I'm just confused where the "80 miles range" comes from or stands. It's a Mokwheel Besalt. I wonder if I'm doing something wrong. Because it's definitely not 80 mile range. I don't go up heels either. Do u have any suggestions?
@@bryanblanton2046 you have to understand the manufacturer when they make the claim of 60 to 80 miles that’s under perfect conditions in the lowest past setting, no stops and starts, level ground, relatively lightweight rider, no accessories, The tires are probably over inflated and probably a very fresh battery. Meaning it was manufactured recently. When I look at battery claims I consider the fact that I’m going to probably run in 60% power range, which would be approximately PAS 3 with a lot of hills, and I usually have to go through the city a little bit, which means stop and starts and the bike will be set to class 3 again using more power. So with all that in consideration, I would say with their 60 to 80 mile range 35 would be my magic number. You also have to understand that batteries degrade about 20% a year if kept at a full state and probably somewhere around 15% if it was stored at 50% charge so if that battery was sitting on the shelf for year, and before the battery was assembled how long were the cells sitting around as each cell is an individual battery, get my point. As to why your bike had 80 miles on it that doesn’t sound right, bike should come with 0 miles on it. Don’t know if this helped you but feel free to ask any questions you want.
THe stated range ebike companies post is best conditions in a lab. Its not realistic. Cut it in half and your probably on the mark. Also, they don't do 80 miles of testing. The most i have seen on any ebke was about 3 miles. You received a used one, returned one, or someone borrowed it from the factory. They don't come completely assembled. @@bryanblanton2046
Excellent review! I've purchased an Obsidian and it should be arriving within a week. They are a little slow to ship and I've heard some bad press about their customer support. That said, time will tell. Thank you for the work on this!
How has the obsidian been? considering buying one
A great review as always good looking bike love the black and yellow I'm a Pittsburgh Steelers fan 😀
Same here but don't any rear rack
Great job...Great review. Beautiful color and frame. Altus is perfect for road and torque sensor is very nice. And for some people..Brick and Morter store option is good.
Great review. Thinking about a Mokwheel. Thanks!🚴💥
They are great bikes, and customer service is improving I have been told. Check for a local dealer, but make sure they will honor the online price. My local dealer tried to charge me $200 more when I purchase the Scoria last year.
I can’t talk myself into this until that back rack is available! I need that, but ya it’s a beauty and excellent price for 1000 watt full suspension! Keep us updated on the rack please
How did you get the thumb throttle to go past 20 mph??
Hey Richard out of curiosity, I saw ur video on the basalt to unlock it.. do u know what the “intensity” setting is?. It’s 1-5 and preset to 3. Is this assist level?
What are your thoughts on mainly street some hills, the obsidian or the basalt
i asked mokwheel about the rack. they wouldn't guarantee if i ordered one now that it would have the nutserts in the rear sway bar. as shown in yours. how can you install a rack without the tapped holes? your bike has a water bottle mount setup. mokwheel said the obsidian didn't have that because of clearance. can you help me clarify i really would like one, but need a rack and water bottle setup. thanks randy
All I can do when it comes to Mokwheel, is shake my head. I really don't know everything that is going on over there. Its been typical now for over a year, models keep shipping with different specs, so you really don't know what your going to get. I heard they have two separate factories building their bikes and that would contribute to the confusion. Your best option may be to find a dealer, call them, and see if they have one with the rack inserts. I don't use a water bottle holder, but, it would be hard to insert a water bottle because there is very little room between the down tube and the top bar.
awesome thanks. have you ridden the basalt st? i know the wattage difference between the two bikes. i like the basalt for the rack and price but will i be happy riding off trail on a basalt? probably 20% off road and 80% on road@@EbikeReviews
I had the first generation Basalt ST when it was a cadence sensor. Its a very nice ride, but without the rear suspension. If your riding easy trails, nothing rough, then sure, its a good option. But, you may also want to look at the New Lectric XPeak, its a very nice ride too. We unboxed it yesterday and released the video this morning. @@randywood2377
Great review Got one coming in the mail. 😅
Sweet. One thing I forgot about in the video, the rear fender is not long enough and you still get splattered in the rain and mud. Just be aware.
How do you unlock the full power
Outstanding review. You definitely know your stuff. Love this bike. Do you feel this company is reputable?
I’m about your same size. Is there a better seat you would recommend? Thank you friend
Mokwheel has been hit or miss on the customer service. Their bikes are awesome, some of the better quality I have seen. But if buy online and ever need help, you may get it right away, or not. So its a little bit of a risk. They have improved a lot, from their humble beginnings about 2 years ago. They have dealers, I would recommend looking in your area for one. However, dealers may charge more since they assembled it and you can expect to pay taxes. Definitely a better deal online. My #1 recommended saddle is made by Bluewind. You can find it here: amzn.to/3PSMnlV
Thank you friend
I wonder how many people run into problems with authorities with the fact that the bike is unclassified and has 1000 watt motor, which is above the 750 watt limit I believe is imposed in some areas.
Yeah I wish it came in 24” wheels and step thru 👍
I wish a lot more bikes came in 24".
I'm getting it!
Can you pop a wheelie on it? :)
LOL. Don't encourage him! -Amanda
Back rack is now available
Just so you know, it's not good for a rear rack to move up and down with the rear wheel. That's why it has no rear rack. This guy seemed obsessed with putting a rear rack on this bike. The kind that attaches to the seat post will work.
Purchasing the Mokwheel Obsidian might initially seem like a good idea, but upon closer examination, this bike is riddled with issues that make it less of a trailblazer and more of a trail-bummer. Here's why you might want to steer clear.
Firstly, the Mokwheel Obsidian masquerades as a mountain bike, but don't be fooled. Its build and performance scream "casual city cruiser" at best. If you're looking to hit the rugged trails, this bike will not be your ally.
One of the most alarming issues arises with the basic assembly of the bike. The front wheel bolts are inexcusably close to the frame, making it nearly impossible to secure the wheel properly with a standard wrench (which they provide). This design flaw not only makes for a frustrating assembly process but also raises serious safety concerns about the wheel's security during rides.
Adding insult to injury, the bike comes with a trunk bag accessory package that is essentially useless unless you fork out extra cash for a rear rack. This feels like a blatant attempt to nickel and dime customers, further soured by the fact that the included chain and hub assembly are so poorly constructed that even a minor ride off a small curb can lead to damage. Yes, the very first time I took it for a spin, the loose chain smacked against the frame, chipping the paint-a cost that would fall on me if I chose to return the bike.
Speaking of returns, Mokwheel's policy could only be described as draconian. Want to return the bike? Hope you haven't so much as peeked inside the box, because anything beyond that and you're looking at a flurry of fees: a 5% credit card fee, a 20% restocking fee, $150 in shipping costs plus another $150 if you need to ship it back. And don't get me started on the accessories-non-refundable even if unopened! My attempt to return a trailer proved futile when I discovered parts were already broken upon opening.
To top it all off, the bike arrives with several small zip-lock bags filled with screws but no instructions on where they should be placed. This oversight could leave less experienced buyers in a real bind, turning what should be the simple task of assembly into a puzzling ordeal.
In conclusion, the Mokwheel Obsidian is a prime example of how not to build or sell a bike. From its misleading marketing and poor construction to its exorbitant hidden costs and customer-unfriendly policies, this bike fails to deliver on almost every front. Buyers would do well to consider other options unless they're looking for a costly headache.
I have nothing other than 😂