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I'm still using an Antec DF-85 ATX Full Tower I've had since 2010. It's stock fans are still going in the front and they only recently started having some occasional noise and spinning problems. I don't know If its worth considering an upgrade because of how versatile it is and how much space it has. I can always try to find fans that would fit to replace them and keep going another few years lol.
@@mizukuu If it ain't broke... There is a plethora of good 120mm fans out there. In this day and age Dark Fleets stand out. I might look to modding the left side panel with tempered glass but other than that, you have something that is unique and has its' own flair.
@@GamersNexus Jameson's enthusiasm for the products really came through in the video. Kudos to him for being there and answering questions without a bunch of marketing fluff and corpo speak!
Lian Li's openness and willingness to be interviewed is impressive. More corporations should be so upfront. Well done Lian Li. I also like the new inexpensive case design; we really need more effective and affordable cases.
Yeah, there is a transparency missing from the Asus of the world. Admitting limitations, not overhypibg even when you can see they are excited about what they are developing.
@@KenS1267Maybe I'm old but Lian li made super solid cases (think Mac but good) that were way expensive (below Mac though). What's a gimmick case they made I'm honestly curious? I only know mostly minimalist design elevated by nice materials?
I always respect when a CEO is involved in the product design, knows what they're talking about, and is enthusiastic about it. Makes me like Lian Li even more
I like how Steve asks very important and direct questions, but also helps guide the interviewees when they maybe do not understand the question or go off topic. He could leave them out to drown but he helps individuals explain or summarize their thoughts which is very professional!
I am pretty concerned about the side of the PSU. The user is not gonna see the most beauty from the PSU, but also receive all the heat from it, which really is a deal breaker for me
@@huyphamuc6372 I would not consider the heat an issue, power supplies dont exhaust a ton of hot air, its mostly just a slight breeze of warm air, that is if the fan is even on. As of looks, well most powersupplies are basic boxes with a sticker, so I dont think thats an issue. I dont think you are going to buy an 80$ case and spend 200$ on a high-end psu with rgb.
Dude, I kinda like Jameson. He's the first CEO I've ever seen who's actually getting his hands dirty, talking about actual real products people can or will be able to buy, and answering questions instead of just dodging them. And the best thing is it seems like he's open to criticism and suggestions and he and his company are really listening and improving.
We will likely be talking to ASUS instead. We feel like there's a chance we can actually get ASUS to improve and change to help its customers and our viewers. Of the two, I'd rather give the platform to the company more likely to actually improve and act in good faith.
@GamersNexus ehhh they both gaslight their customers to new heights so I wouldn't trust either of them its just a case of which is the worse of two evils
Oh my God! Shifting the PSU to the front to allow for intake fans from the bottom without going dual chamber design is literally the thing I was wondering about recently, why has nobody done it? I instantly thought that it's probably been looked at before and rejected as bad but now I see that's not the case! Well, I know what's the next case I'm gonna buy, props to Lian Li for continuing to crush the case game.
Because it doesn't make that big of a diffrence. Your intake/outtage of air will come from the sides of your pc anyways and most PSU's has fans to push in air so it's benefitting your GPU.
@@jonathaneriksson9273 that cannot be true. Having direct access to fresh air below the GPU with fans that are feeding it will absolutely result in better GPU thermals. All the O11D and its clones along with different design cases like the Fractal Torrent essentially always perform better in regards to GPU thermals than the standard design and it's mostly because bottom mounted intake fans
@@forsakensrb The PSU as i said is a bottom mounted fan. Just taking more air from the bottom of the case isn't the best since the amount of air it can pull is limited and pulls in the most dust. Better to just focus on getting bigger dimensions on fans, since that's what's carrying the torrent which is the leader in gpu thermals as you said.
reversing the reverse fans will cool, better, though. But it will suck in dust from the environment, requiring blowing it out with compressed air a couple of times a year. (which reminds me to do it on my own PC)
That $80 lancool looks amazing, and has some real innovation on a budget. Great on lian li for keeping that airflow focus in a reasonable price range, even looks fairly nice to work in. Can't wait to try it in a build.
Wow, amazing walkthrough. Don't usually watch these to the end because companies get all gimmicky and corporate when showcasing their products. He was straight to the point and actually pointed out everything I was curious about. I will def be eyeing these when you guys review them.
I love the humble/modest feeling I get from these videos. Jameson as a knowledgeable/involved/passionate/genuine CEO for Lian Li and Stephen from GN. I seem to avoid videos from LTT now after their scandal, poor response, and now seeing how almost pretentious their videos seem vs. the very genuine feeling videos coming from this channel. Keep it up GN!
@GamersNexus I have the LanCool II Mesh performance. Bought during the supplier issues in 2020. I finally put in an Artic liquid freezer II 360 for my 5900X. Then, 6 months later, the freezer III comes out!!! Currently using 2x Artic 140P as push and the 3x 120P for pull. Next to try is the Super Flower Mega Cool 120MM and 140MM fans that are just releasing! Compare which cools that radiator more.
@malphadour funny thing. When I saw the LanCool 3 review, I looked at it at Microcenter (3 hours from my house). They let me know how the front release bars broke in a month. Granted, YES, very hard usage case. But it keeps me more content. Ha ha.
I really like the ideas shown for the 207. One of which I would love to see expanded on: "get it as small as mATX, but not mATX". Please do a mini version that's almost ITX size, but not ITX and fits up to mATX boards. That way you're getting a really small high function case with the GPU blower fans and other flush features. Loving the Walnut accents, and would be awesome if the wood panels were detachable, so you could purchase alternate panels with other wood grains/aluminum colors. Similar to Corsairs panels on their 6500 series.
We used to just buy a large case and put a slot fan in to suck out excess heat from the video card. The issue is that putting the PSU in the bottom, while it looks good, is the worst location as heat rises. So no space for a slot fan and no way to keep that trapped air from moving aside from idiocy like right angle riser cards. Those of us who were smart just bought old-school designs with the PSU on top. This, though, finally makes the bottom PSU design work. Also, you will still get better performance from a full size case and a top-mounted PSU. But for $90, this isn't going to break the bank, either.
Seeing someone like Jameson talk so passionately about their product makes me want to buy their product 100x more than any kind of advertisement ever could. This was great to watch :)
that reverse spin to remove the dust on the fan blades is pretty neat, its really hard to get the dust out of those if you don't have like a small nozzle on your duster/vacuum, without using a brush which just scatters the dust everywhere
It's great to see the new cases and all the new features and ideas Lian Li came up with. Probs to Jameson and his team to always let Steve (and us) have a great hands on approach to their products. Thanks Steve & GN team, have a great time here in Taiwan
The engineering discussion was so good! Very sharp (follow-up) questions, and very honest and informative answers! As a product manager in an IoT field, I enjoyed it a lot and both GN and Lian-Li show what they're worth as B2C companies. Love the reviews and products.
Lian Li has been killing it. The office I helped outfit with workstations had a toss up between the Lian Li 011 or the Fractal Torrent. We went with fractal torrent for it's raw performance, but I really want to field some 011's soon because of how well they perform, and how good they look.
I got my first Lian Li product last year (a Lancool 216) and this thing is a monster of a case. Everything is completely modular and so maintenance friendly. The ability to strip it down by unscrewing like, what... 3 screws? The instructions are super easy and simple to read. I'm going to stick with them for cases on the long run. That wooden case looks so sexy.
i remember the days of finding the best budget case for the first few pc's i owned. insane to me that budget cases are pretty much at the level of top end cases back in the day, in terms of functionality and planning behind the little details. kudos to lian li for still trying to work on budget cases for anybody that is new to the hobby
ive had respect for lian li from WAY back, like back when everyone was making purple all aluminum cases. i've built in many of their rigs over the years, and the quality is always incredibly high, and their ingenuity continues to be top shelf. good on them. these are sharp looking boxes
I really like the optimized Layout of the Lancool 207. Too many cases are space inefficient nowadays, and I really appreciate that they optimized this case for space efficiency. I also like the PSU position, that allows a lower mainboard.
Jameson explained the product really well and transparent, also an incredible level of knowledge, i know its his product but you can see how much thought he puts in in it. For Budget Cases the Lancool series will be the shit
G'day Steve & Jameson, Big thanks to Lian Li & Jameson, I love the talks with the people designing/Engineering the products as you get so much more behind the finished product. Awesome too that Lian Li are listening about what customers are after when it comes to their products, especially for increasing compatability to allow options for saving money.
I've always assumed that as my generation gets older, PC gamer aesthetics would change from unicorn vomit RGB to "wife approved". I feel like everyone goes through that moment where they're like 26 years old and bring someone home with them only to realize that their gaming PC is somewhat ridiculous-looking.
This is a great video ion Lian Li. I love how they are trying new things in the space, trying to innovate, their passion and wanting to share what they are doing. Thanks for making a video on them.
Love lian li, my last two builds were lian li, though I remember 20 years ago when they were an expensive boutique case company and seeing dudes bring those cases to my lans, i was pretty jealous but not like 300 dollars jealous. keep up the awesome work
Love how Jameson Chen spent most of the video paraphrased: "Yeah, people complain about this a lot, so here's how we're trying to fix it. Hopefully it helps." The dude straight up said "This will mean people have to buy less [of our stuff]" and said it like it was a good thing (@ 19:13 and @ 22:57). Please never stop being CEO.
Neat idea. My go-to for decades was a slot fan in the bottom to get the same type of airflow to the card. It made a 10C difference, on average. This looks like they have simply included the "slot fan". My recommendation, though, would be to test it with the fans in the push and pull configurations. I think you will find that it works better pulling the hot air out of the case. A simple negative pressure design. This of course, sucks in more dust, but gets the hot air out of the case as quickly as possible.
I really like the inside view of an interesting approach in developing a connection to a fan (or even more + RGB), by only using 12v from the fan header and do the controlling wireless. Removes the hole rgb header + cable clutter from the build. less waste, less space needed.
I'm impressed with the amount of wood they used to integrate into the case! That being said something that ive noticed the other case makers not doing is the inclusion of brass or other metal accents like the north and tbh i think that was the other really big highligjt on the north that really set it apart and still does.
The Lian Li CEO really is devoted to innovate in pc case architecture, and he's the only one doing it mostly with big changes in the case market, He seems so nice !
I love my Lian Li 205M Mesh. Cheap and quality product, two things that usually don't go hand in hand. Only two drawbacks are dust buildup from two 140mm in the front, and tempered glass panel is not on hinges.
I'm concerned for the psu exhaust for the Lancool 207. Depending on how you place the case on your desk, the exhaust might hit your mouse hand. It would for my layout.
I absolutely love my LL lancool 216 and loved building in it. By far the most modular case I've ever built in. The fact I paid less than $100 for it just shows Lian Li is above all in the case game.
The 216 is very much top of the tree in that size category. Closely followed by some of the Fractal stuff - what a time to be alive - multiple great case manufacturers. And Corsair......
After watching case reviews on GN I ended up with the Lian Li Cool Mesh II. Super happy with what I got in performance and at a very reasonable price I'd buy it again.
Just ordered a 216, what are the release ETAs for these new cases? Edit: finished watching, he mentioned August 2024 for 207 and September for 217 On the 217, the sides of the psu shroud not being mesh is slightly disappointing and hopefully psu is front mounted like on the 207
My previous gaming PC case was from Lian Li. Used it since 2009 or so. My current gaming PC uses a budget case from a different brand but I might consider Lian Li for the next one.
Bought a Aerocool Trinity Mini-G-BK-v2 in March, added PWM fans & some mesh against dust in front/bottom & couldnt be happier, concidering the 40€ pricetag & open design!
I'm still rocking my 205m and seeing the improvements they've made to the front intakes and psu placement is really enticing. I was thinking of just taking a jigsaw to the front panel of mine and doing a custom mesh but that bottom psu placement on these new models would be perfect for my poor 3080 lol
I am always impressed when I hear from Jameson. Lian Li is constantly pushing fan and RGB tech forward the past few years. It's great he really listens to the feedback from consumers and is creating new products to solve those problems. Excited to see how these wireless fans work later this year. Also, the idea behind the $80 seems spot on.
3:10 Regarding the bottom intake fans on the 207, I am concerned that those will be pulling most of their air from the back the case where the power supply normally is instead of the mesh filtered side pannel since that will be the path of least resistance for the air. There is 2 problems I see with this air flow path. One is that since the back is unfiltered there will be much more dust getting in than if all the air was passing though the side pannel. Also since this is very near the ground, there will be much more dust getting in than if it was higher like the fans at the front of the case. The second is that since most of the computer's exhaust (and especially the graphics card) is right above the area where there could be a lot of intake from the bottom fans, there is a risk that some of the hot air that is exhausted from the case will be pulled right back in and measurably increase the intake temperature of the graphics card. In my opinion they should consider blocking off the area where the power supply normally is to nullify these two conserns.
I generally like the Lancool 208 an am looking forward to an in depth review. The discussion starting at 21:45 concerning the current obsession with RGB and other PC cosmetics is amusing.
RGB audio wood panel Pc Case. You turn the Pc on, and Mp3 audio plays through small tweeter speakers built into the wood that has rgb strips integrated into the wood.
When I was doing cooling system designs we learned that the chip as well as coils merc ones specifically needed to get warm or even hot depending on how flexable the designs are … so what I ended up doing after stabilizing the power pcb ram and chip was to overclock to get the part to operation temps with a locked percentage of gain that from my parts is totally worth it
When you keep it too cold it will skip and chug differently until system warms up then a smoothing and a mild acceleration effect but ai blends it and based on what their ai says I’m top notch
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I'm still using an Antec DF-85 ATX Full Tower I've had since 2010. It's stock fans are still going in the front and they only recently started having some occasional noise and spinning problems. I don't know If its worth considering an upgrade because of how versatile it is and how much space it has. I can always try to find fans that would fit to replace them and keep going another few years lol.
Any new non glass, non RGB cases?
I see the AIO cooler with different tube routing!! This is what I have in mind long time ago.
@@mizukuu If it ain't broke... There is a plethora of good 120mm fans out there. In this day and age Dark Fleets stand out. I might look to modding the left side panel with tempered glass but other than that, you have something that is unique and has its' own flair.
does lancool 207 has anti sag bracket?
I always like watching the Lian Li videos from these events. The reps always seem to be actually excited about what they're presenting.
The CEO is very involved in the product design!
@@GamersNexus Jameson's enthusiasm for the products really came through in the video. Kudos to him for being there and answering questions without a bunch of marketing fluff and corpo speak!
@alb9229 A CEO is technically a rep too.
And he actually knows all the technical bits about it so we can get into the disection of it all.
Lian Li's openness and willingness to be interviewed is impressive. More corporations should be so upfront. Well done Lian Li. I also like the new inexpensive case design; we really need more effective and affordable cases.
You have to respect Lian Li in taking in criticism in order to improve their products.
Yeah, there is a transparency missing from the Asus of the world. Admitting limitations, not overhypibg even when you can see they are excited about what they are developing.
That's how you perfect your product and become the best in the world.
Lian Li has gone from making budget and gimmick cases to being the industry leader in about 5 years.
@@KenS1267Maybe I'm old but Lian li made super solid cases (think Mac but good) that were way expensive (below Mac though). What's a gimmick case they made I'm honestly curious? I only know mostly minimalist design elevated by nice materials?
Rare in the business 😅
I always respect when a CEO is involved in the product design, knows what they're talking about, and is enthusiastic about it. Makes me like Lian Li even more
And importantly they care about the customer experience.
Can't wait for "wooden" RGB next year. I mean, that's the only logical conclusion.
RGB wood?! How do they do it?!
@@GamersNexus It'll be very Hard. 😁
Fish tank/clear/Rgb wood
@@peternicol3439 morning wood build
It's entirely doable just marry some live edges with clear resin in the middle and an RGB strip 😂 it would unironically look pretty rad
I like how Steve asks very important and direct questions, but also helps guide the interviewees when they maybe do not understand the question or go off topic. He could leave them out to drown but he helps individuals explain or summarize their thoughts which is very professional!
Sure, but I have social anxiety, so his ability to communicate so effectively pisses me off!! Mess up once in a while. Geez.
Love the interview portions of the videos.
Not gonna lie the design of the 207 is pretty smart
Really interesting for an air-cooled system. I hope they also think of sensible dust filters.
I am pretty concerned about the side of the PSU. The user is not gonna see the most beauty from the PSU, but also receive all the heat from it, which really is a deal breaker for me
Absolutely. I really really like it.
@@huyphamuc6372 I would not consider the heat an issue, power supplies dont exhaust a ton of hot air, its mostly just a slight breeze of warm air, that is if the fan is even on. As of looks, well most powersupplies are basic boxes with a sticker, so I dont think thats an issue. I dont think you are going to buy an 80$ case and spend 200$ on a high-end psu with rgb.
i like everything except that the rear and pci slot holes aren't filtered. else its a big plus from me
Genuinely respect how open/transparent Lancool (James) is at these Computex events in your interviews with them every year.
Lian Lis CEO is what we need more of never stops innovation and has so much Charisma
for real, not a lot of CEO's who are also putting in the groundwork on the actual products. big props to Jameson
I do not need a new case.
I do not need a new case.
I do not need a new case.
Godammit Lancool 207.
Tbh, at 80 bucks, it's almost reasonable to upgrade it alone. Especially since you see the case every day
But no, you don't need a new case 😉
Be a based pc builder and run the pc on test bench forever
@@maozedowner5915lol
If they will show Lancool 217 with wood and in white I will strongly consider it against my current Fractal North ...
You are correct. You don't need a new case. Also, have you seen the new Lancool 207? :)
Dude, I kinda like Jameson. He's the first CEO I've ever seen who's actually getting his hands dirty, talking about actual real products people can or will be able to buy, and answering questions instead of just dodging them. And the best thing is it seems like he's open to criticism and suggestions and he and his company are really listening and improving.
That LANCOOL is sharp. Like a proper PC case instead of a fragile glass box.
Lancool cases have always been like that.
@@Chopper153 Indeed, named LANcool for a reason :)
Somewhere out there, LGR has an ear to ear grin observing the woodgrain comeback
That removable plastic on plastic on lancool will be an LCD panel. The trend is either wood / Screen has replaced RGB
High chanches
Great call. But you're right. Screen or wood panel.
@@GamersNexus Or both. The whole screen craze reminds me of the good ol' 5.25" bay screens
I have Fractal North with wood without RGBs so yeah, you might be right.
@@MrBl00Haha. Yeah, reminds me of the video LGR did where he added all those drive accessories. The cigarette lighter didn't seem so safe.
Can't wait to see the EK booth lol
We will likely be talking to ASUS instead. We feel like there's a chance we can actually get ASUS to improve and change to help its customers and our viewers. Of the two, I'd rather give the platform to the company more likely to actually improve and act in good faith.
@@GamersNexus nooooo, I was waiting for EK video from computex too!
@@GamersNexusGood decision not to give EK any airtime unless it's to show acctual good change, or if we'll if the screw up even more.
@GamersNexus ehhh they both gaslight their customers to new heights so I wouldn't trust either of them its just a case of which is the worse of two evils
@@GamersNexus Yes, I think with you and Dave2D, Asus will finally listen. But major props to you and your team for covering this over the years.
Oh my God! Shifting the PSU to the front to allow for intake fans from the bottom without going dual chamber design is literally the thing I was wondering about recently, why has nobody done it? I instantly thought that it's probably been looked at before and rejected as bad but now I see that's not the case! Well, I know what's the next case I'm gonna buy, props to Lian Li for continuing to crush the case game.
and in a $80 case no less, I love it
Because it doesn't make that big of a diffrence. Your intake/outtage of air will come from the sides of your pc anyways and most PSU's has fans to push in air so it's benefitting your GPU.
@@jonathaneriksson9273 that cannot be true. Having direct access to fresh air below the GPU with fans that are feeding it will absolutely result in better GPU thermals. All the O11D and its clones along with different design cases like the Fractal Torrent essentially always perform better in regards to GPU thermals than the standard design and it's mostly because bottom mounted intake fans
@@jonathaneriksson9273 all the PSUs I've had have been exhaust fans
@@forsakensrb The PSU as i said is a bottom mounted fan. Just taking more air from the bottom of the case isn't the best since the amount of air it can pull is limited and pulls in the most dust.
Better to just focus on getting bigger dimensions on fans, since that's what's carrying the torrent which is the leader in gpu thermals as you said.
The 217 sold me on the reversible fans set to the reset button that's what I call ingenuity heck yes guys looks like ill be upgrading my case. 👌👌
Man all this wireless RGB info just makes me want to forego RGB as a whole even more.
Yeah, personally I don't care RGB. Well, only RGB I like is in my keyboard for a backlight. I do have RGB ram but that's because I got it super cheap.
That reverse fan thing is legit. My PSU does that and its freakily clean in there compared to the rest of my case.
reversing the reverse fans will cool, better, though. But it will suck in dust from the environment, requiring blowing it out with compressed air a couple of times a year. (which reminds me to do it on my own PC)
Cool seeing the CEO be the designer and up front talking. Respectable for Lian Li
That $80 lancool looks amazing, and has some real innovation on a budget. Great on lian li for keeping that airflow focus in a reasonable price range, even looks fairly nice to work in. Can't wait to try it in a build.
I solved the RGB wiring problem by not using RGB. Works every time.
Wow, amazing walkthrough. Don't usually watch these to the end because companies get all gimmicky and corporate when showcasing their products. He was straight to the point and actually pointed out everything I was curious about. I will def be eyeing these when you guys review them.
CEO seems really genuine and passionate.
I love the humble/modest feeling I get from these videos. Jameson as a knowledgeable/involved/passionate/genuine CEO for Lian Li and Stephen from GN. I seem to avoid videos from LTT now after their scandal, poor response, and now seeing how almost pretentious their videos seem vs. the very genuine feeling videos coming from this channel. Keep it up GN!
FINALLY!! something other than O11!!!
100% this! We've been wanting a non-O11 case for a while now!
@GamersNexus I have the LanCool II Mesh performance. Bought during the supplier issues in 2020. I finally put in an Artic liquid freezer II 360 for my 5900X. Then, 6 months later, the freezer III comes out!!! Currently using 2x Artic 140P as push and the 3x 120P for pull.
Next to try is the Super Flower Mega Cool 120MM and 140MM fans that are just releasing! Compare which cools that radiator more.
Considering that the boss of of single chamber AIO cases is the Lancool 3 I kind of wonder why it isn't talked about more.
@malphadour funny thing. When I saw the LanCool 3 review, I looked at it at Microcenter (3 hours from my house). They let me know how the front release bars broke in a month. Granted, YES, very hard usage case. But it keeps me more content. Ha ha.
@@Jay_the_Caffeinator I've built half a dozen rigs in them, including mine - zero problems like that so far.
I really like the ideas shown for the 207. One of which I would love to see expanded on: "get it as small as mATX, but not mATX". Please do a mini version that's almost ITX size, but not ITX and fits up to mATX boards. That way you're getting a really small high function case with the GPU blower fans and other flush features. Loving the Walnut accents, and would be awesome if the wood panels were detachable, so you could purchase alternate panels with other wood grains/aluminum colors. Similar to Corsairs panels on their 6500 series.
We used to just buy a large case and put a slot fan in to suck out excess heat from the video card. The issue is that putting the PSU in the bottom, while it looks good, is the worst location as heat rises. So no space for a slot fan and no way to keep that trapped air from moving aside from idiocy like right angle riser cards. Those of us who were smart just bought old-school designs with the PSU on top. This, though, finally makes the bottom PSU design work. Also, you will still get better performance from a full size case and a top-mounted PSU. But for $90, this isn't going to break the bank, either.
Always great to see Jameson and hearing his thought process regarding his design and vision for Lian Li.
Seeing someone like Jameson talk so passionately about their product makes me want to buy their product 100x more than any kind of advertisement ever could.
This was great to watch :)
that reverse spin to remove the dust on the fan blades is pretty neat, its really hard to get the dust out of those if you don't have like a small nozzle on your duster/vacuum, without using a brush which just scatters the dust everywhere
It's great to see the new cases and all the new features and ideas Lian Li came up with.
Probs to Jameson and his team to always let Steve (and us) have a great hands on approach to their products.
Thanks Steve & GN team, have a great time here in Taiwan
Thanks Steve for the undercover work
The engineering discussion was so good! Very sharp (follow-up) questions, and very honest and informative answers! As a product manager in an IoT field, I enjoyed it a lot and both GN and Lian-Li show what they're worth as B2C companies. Love the reviews and products.
Lian-li is like the last company that hasnt pulled some bullshit in the last year or so lol
Wooden 207 looks cool as hell
The wooden case looks more like 1997 LOL, like those wooden frames for TV's that they made.
@@jonathaneriksson9273 thanks for the opinion
@@Sam4oEdits do you work at lian li or something lol?
Fractal hasn’t pulled anything iirc
@@TheColdturtle Same with Arctic, the worst thing they've done is make a slightly annoying mounting mechanism for the Freezer III lineup
a case like the 207 that fits a eatx board would be a dream
Lian Li has been killing it. The office I helped outfit with workstations had a toss up between the Lian Li 011 or the Fractal Torrent. We went with fractal torrent for it's raw performance, but I really want to field some 011's soon because of how well they perform, and how good they look.
I got my first Lian Li product last year (a Lancool 216) and this thing is a monster of a case. Everything is completely modular and so maintenance friendly. The ability to strip it down by unscrewing like, what... 3 screws? The instructions are super easy and simple to read. I'm going to stick with them for cases on the long run. That wooden case looks so sexy.
I love this new trend of wooden cases. Finally case designers are realizing that most people live in residential homes, not gaming cafes.
That wood/black case is gorgeous. Hope you do reciews for all of these!
I've been using that dust filters for decades. Happy to see that from out-of-factory spec. Thanks!
I like GN Sneak missions.
That Lancool 207, if it comes in white, will be my new case for this year....depending on your review.
i remember the days of finding the best budget case for the first few pc's i owned. insane to me that budget cases are pretty much at the level of top end cases back in the day, in terms of functionality and planning behind the little details. kudos to lian li for still trying to work on budget cases for anybody that is new to the hobby
I love the look of tht 217.
I much prefer the wood aesthetic over the aquariums
Hear me out: Fish tank cases with wood panels.
Yes, the wood aquarium is much nicer 😅
LoL and then it'll look like a 70's aquarium then! LoL
@@Tea_1745 paneling...gotta love paneling
@@dbunik44 hell yeah! I've always loved the woodies!
ive had respect for lian li from WAY back, like back when everyone was making purple all aluminum cases. i've built in many of their rigs over the years, and the quality is always incredibly high, and their ingenuity continues to be top shelf. good on them. these are sharp looking boxes
I really like the optimized Layout of the Lancool 207. Too many cases are space inefficient nowadays, and I really appreciate that they optimized this case for space efficiency.
I also like the PSU position, that allows a lower mainboard.
Jameson explained the product really well and transparent, also an incredible level of knowledge, i know its his product but you can see how much thought he puts in in it. For Budget Cases the Lancool series will be the shit
holy shit literally watching videos back to back and new one drops, LETS GOO
G'day Steve & Jameson,
Big thanks to Lian Li & Jameson, I love the talks with the people designing/Engineering the products as you get so much more behind the finished product.
Awesome too that Lian Li are listening about what customers are after when it comes to their products, especially for increasing compatability to allow options for saving money.
I've always assumed that as my generation gets older, PC gamer aesthetics would change from unicorn vomit RGB to "wife approved".
I feel like everyone goes through that moment where they're like 26 years old and bring someone home with them only to realize that their gaming PC is somewhat ridiculous-looking.
4:50 The side intake on the bottom is filtered, but the rear of the case (which will also be intake for the bottom compartment) isn't.
these aren't released yet, are they? they'll probably add a removable filter on the back before release
These are the videos that you do that I love the most... Keep up the excellent work.
That 217 Wood case is beautiful. Now I have to find a suitable plant to put in it to complete the nature look.
The 207 looks interesting. Looks like a case upgrade in the works.
That LanCool 217 looks really slick! Hoping you get an early review in for that one. :)
This is a great video ion Lian Li. I love how they are trying new things in the space, trying to innovate, their passion and wanting to share what they are doing. Thanks for making a video on them.
Love lian li, my last two builds were lian li, though I remember 20 years ago when they were an expensive boutique case company and seeing dudes bring those cases to my lans, i was pretty jealous but not like 300 dollars jealous. keep up the awesome work
Good stuff Lian Li!!
Especially, the Lancool 207 seems very promising at this price for a new standard recommendation across friends building PCs.
Love how Jameson Chen spent most of the video paraphrased: "Yeah, people complain about this a lot, so here's how we're trying to fix it. Hopefully it helps."
The dude straight up said "This will mean people have to buy less [of our stuff]" and said it like it was a good thing (@ 19:13 and @ 22:57). Please never stop being CEO.
Neat idea. My go-to for decades was a slot fan in the bottom to get the same type of airflow to the card. It made a 10C difference, on average. This looks like they have simply included the "slot fan". My recommendation, though, would be to test it with the fans in the push and pull configurations. I think you will find that it works better pulling the hot air out of the case. A simple negative pressure design. This of course, sucks in more dust, but gets the hot air out of the case as quickly as possible.
I like that woodpanel case. Looks neat on or under the desk.
Very excited for the 217. The wood accents are really nice on my eyes, and the ability to reverse the fans is nice as well.
I really like the inside view of an interesting approach in developing a connection to a fan (or even more + RGB), by only using 12v from the fan header and do the controlling wireless. Removes the hole rgb header + cable clutter from the build. less waste, less space needed.
I'm impressed with the amount of wood they used to integrate into the case! That being said something that ive noticed the other case makers not doing is the inclusion of brass or other metal accents like the north and tbh i think that was the other really big highligjt on the north that really set it apart and still does.
Man, it's getting exciting seeing new things this time around.
The Lian Li CEO really is devoted to innovate in pc case architecture, and he's the only one doing it mostly with big changes in the case market, He seems so nice !
Some heat exchanger / air-con unit also have similar reverse spin mechanism to reduce dust.
I love my Lian Li 205M Mesh. Cheap and quality product, two things that usually don't go hand in hand.
Only two drawbacks are dust buildup from two 140mm in the front, and tempered glass panel is not on hinges.
I love how Lian Li never shy away from your questions. They just straight up answer every question you throw at them. No beating around the bush.
lian li guy is a champ for being so humble and explaining everything in detail !
I'm wanting to get the white lian li 207 case. Thanks for the vid!
always nice to see lian li and what they come up with . I'm also pretty happy with my lancool 216
I'm concerned for the psu exhaust for the Lancool 207.
Depending on how you place the case on your desk, the exhaust might hit your mouse hand. It would for my layout.
I'm loving the 207's design. Just the easy access to the fans and filters themselves for cleaning makes me want to buy one to replace my current case.
I absolutely love my LL lancool 216 and loved building in it. By far the most modular case I've ever built in. The fact I paid less than $100 for it just shows Lian Li is above all in the case game.
The 216 is very much top of the tree in that size category. Closely followed by some of the Fractal stuff - what a time to be alive - multiple great case manufacturers. And Corsair......
The idea of the PSU at the front/bottom, is the reason I’m still waiting for the Modfree to arrive in the UK. Brilliant idea.
I just finished a 70950x3d in a 011rgb case... i could not be happier. it's a beautiful solution, albeit rather large.
217 looks neat, i like that the rear is 140mm too, so many cases can only fit 120s at the back.
After watching case reviews on GN I ended up with the Lian Li Cool Mesh II. Super happy with what I got in performance and at a very reasonable price I'd buy it again.
Just ordered a 216, what are the release ETAs for these new cases?
Edit: finished watching, he mentioned August 2024 for 207 and September for 217
On the 217, the sides of the psu shroud not being mesh is slightly disappointing and hopefully psu is front mounted like on the 207
My previous gaming PC case was from Lian Li. Used it since 2009 or so. My current gaming PC uses a budget case from a different brand but I might consider Lian Li for the next one.
got to love the Roar of the fans in the background
Bottom fan intake for the graphics card is such an underrated feature. It's nice to give the hottest component in your case some fresh, cool air.
I like this new approach making cases smaller 👍
I was looking forward to the possibility of a new mini/air mini... maybe next year then.
The reverse fan spin technique was also used on the MSI GTX 580 Lightning Xtreme Edition edition from 2011.
Bought a Aerocool Trinity Mini-G-BK-v2 in March, added PWM fans & some mesh against dust in front/bottom & couldnt be happier, concidering the 40€ pricetag & open design!
Wow, this was a great video. The hard questions and generally good answers.
That $80 case looks perfect for my kids desks. Love the airflow design on my Lancool II, and that seems like a compact version of it.
I've been using a double wide LIAN LI PC-D600 I bought 10 years ago. Still my favorite PC case.
I'm still rocking my 205m and seeing the improvements they've made to the front intakes and psu placement is really enticing. I was thinking of just taking a jigsaw to the front panel of mine and doing a custom mesh but that bottom psu placement on these new models would be perfect for my poor 3080 lol
I am always impressed when I hear from Jameson. Lian Li is constantly pushing fan and RGB tech forward the past few years. It's great he really listens to the feedback from consumers and is creating new products to solve those problems. Excited to see how these wireless fans work later this year. Also, the idea behind the $80 seems spot on.
3:10 Regarding the bottom intake fans on the 207, I am concerned that those will be pulling most of their air from the back the case where the power supply normally is instead of the mesh filtered side pannel since that will be the path of least resistance for the air. There is 2 problems I see with this air flow path.
One is that since the back is unfiltered there will be much more dust getting in than if all the air was passing though the side pannel. Also since this is very near the ground, there will be much more dust getting in than if it was higher like the fans at the front of the case.
The second is that since most of the computer's exhaust (and especially the graphics card) is right above the area where there could be a lot of intake from the bottom fans, there is a risk that some of the hot air that is exhausted from the case will be pulled right back in and measurably increase the intake temperature of the graphics card.
In my opinion they should consider blocking off the area where the power supply normally is to nullify these two conserns.
Looking forward to GN's review of the 207, looks great!
I'm really impressed by the job made by the intake mesh, full of dust.
I generally like the Lancool 208 an am looking forward to an in depth review. The discussion starting at 21:45 concerning the current obsession with RGB and other PC cosmetics is amusing.
RGB audio wood panel Pc Case. You turn the Pc on, and Mp3 audio plays through small tweeter speakers built into the wood that has rgb strips integrated into the wood.
When I was doing cooling system designs we learned that the chip as well as coils merc ones specifically needed to get warm or even hot depending on how flexable the designs are … so what I ended up doing after stabilizing the power pcb ram and chip was to overclock to get the part to operation temps with a locked percentage of gain that from my parts is totally worth it
When you keep it too cold it will skip and chug differently until system warms up then a smoothing and a mild acceleration effect but ai blends it and based on what their ai says I’m top notch
I bought Lian Li 215 cause of your review! Such a good case! Dropped my temps by 25 degrees in comparison to the old one :P