Not quite a correct representation, but close Chara actually did kill in the end of genocide And they were not against genocide, due to them being, well, soulless They do act similar to Flowey ig The only exception is that they don't like you killing, unless you kill literally everything
Welp that's one version of chara I'm happy is gone which is the Gacha protrayed version of chara(the only ACTUAL times chara is considered evil is in the DustTale and KillerTale comic's just so ya know which is why I hate that version of them)
@@myerscoded I mean true, and the only times that they went into a state similar to that of the Gacha portrayed version is when they are in the DustTale and KillerTale comic, and it wasn't evenly their fault as the au's creator's stated, they were corrupted by the player's genocide runs/routes, as for when they are considered females or males or even have any gender decided for them, well I don't have a problem with that, as long as they don't get into the Psycho gacha mode I don't have a problem unless they are explained to be influenced by some type/sort of corruption
I feel I need inform you that Canon Chara was never under control by Player. Frisk is a "vessel" for Player. Hence, they control Frisk rather than Chara. Chara is spectator with specific ability that's only effective against the "Puppeteer". In first Genocide route, Player unintentionally gave Chara another view of point and Chara learned to forgive rather than hold grudge against humans who haven't anything bad to monsters but only to the humans that has intent of harming monsters. On second Genocide route, Chara would then fail to understand why would the puppeteer prefer to repeat the action. "Since you were in control?" Is a mock line from Chara. All actions made are on Player rather than Chara's and they is able to "Erase" timeline. In another term, they can terminate Player from accessing the timeline. Which forces them move to different timeline. Thank you for reading my essay.
i disagree; you are using this.. twisted.. notion of a ghost being somehow tied to their dead body and thus not developing at all; that is not true or accurate. a spirit can still age and develop even without a body, and unless you have actual evidence backing up a claim against what i have spoken, i will stick firmly by that; if i died at 12 for example and continued to exist as a spirit for 24 more years i would consider myself 36 years old, not 12, regardless of what you think i should be
@@chronred8190 Now that I think about it, I guess it’s really just a matter of interpretation. Some people would say they still age, others probably wouldn’t.
Damn, I watch these videos too much. Now I'm going to suffer even more while trying to beat genocide run because I'll know that I'm the bad person, and nobody else is bad. Poor Chara and Frisk, I'm sorry.
u just gonna pull thru it, i’ve beaten it two times, and i still feel guilty about it, but i like to remind myself that they’re still pixels on a screen
@@myerscoded yeah, but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't feel anything for it I don't see how being taught that killing is ok makes someone not care for the death of a beloved one
I literally know that canon chara sees the player kills monsters and yea i think chara is good person im saying person since they are non binary/genderless
me; *Reading comments* The comments im looking at and what they are talking about: LORE UNDERTALE NETURAUL RUN GENOCIDE RUN PACIFIST RUN LORE UNDERTALE NETURAUL RUN GENOCIDE RUN PACIFIST RUN (Thats all I'm seeing I'm being honest ;-;)
non-binary canon this is not canon either because if the person is pronounced with they does not necessarily mean non-binary. Being characters whose gender is not specific, we can somehow choose the gender they have, but in public we use them/them.
"I never killed anybody. Neither did Frisk" Ahh, so the one who freed monsters is Frisk, and the one who commited a genocide is the player? Why not thank player for freeing monsters, if Frisk is 24/7 a puppet?
The player doesn’t do it out of good or evil. We do it because we *can* Because we want to complete everything Like Sans says. “Not out of any desire or good or evil” “But because you can.” “And because you can,you *have* too.” When we play a pacfist route we let go of our control of Frisk and let them be their own person. In the Genocide route they are our body we use to kill, emotionless,and creepy,as stated by multiple characters in the genocide route,as Chara slowly but surely takes control as you feed them the LV you are gaining by killing everyone.
@@sati_the_swapshit I respect your opinion. And I can see why. Although the evidence is there,with Flowey’s post Pacfist dialogue,Chara’s dialogue,and frisk speaking/moving without your input even on the pacfist route. Standing up to omega Flowey. Asking Asgore to be their dad whole talking to Gerson on post pacfist. Disliking soda. Not liking toys. Flowey and Chara referring to you as “you” and the red flag that represents all of the soul colors calling it “you” instead of “determination” “With your guidance,I realized the purpose of my reincarnation.” “Power.” “You and me are not the same,are we?” “There is a reason you continue to recreate this world.” “There is a reason you continue to destroy it.” “You.” “You are wrecked with a perverted sentimentality.” “YOU still have the power to reset everything.” “Just let Frisk go.” “Let them live their life.” But I suppose it never is outright stated. And the Frisk moving on their own could just be to move the plot along/coincidences.
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Not quite a correct representation, but close
Chara actually did kill in the end of genocide
And they were not against genocide, due to them being, well, soulless
They do act similar to Flowey ig
The only exception is that they don't like you killing, unless you kill literally everything
nothing in my videos are 100% canon, it’s my perception of what happened, i should’ve specified in the description but i’ll pin this comment :-)
@@myerscoded Ok
Chara is not soulless
@@djvos1787 Oh, they are
Their soul was _aah _*_gone_* along with Asriel's soul it was fused with
Asriel is soulless, so is present day Chara
Chara actually surpassed 20 lv when the player or us logged off.
I like how you use chara's actual text of "since when we're you the one in control" it's a nice bit of detail
Welp that's one version of chara I'm happy is gone which is the Gacha protrayed version of chara(the only ACTUAL times chara is considered evil is in the DustTale and KillerTale comic's just so ya know which is why I hate that version of them)
yeah, i don’t know why the entire fandom casted chara as evil,, it was stupid of the fandom
@@myerscoded I mean true, and the only times that they went into a state similar to that of the Gacha portrayed version is when they are in the DustTale and KillerTale comic, and it wasn't evenly their fault as the au's creator's stated, they were corrupted by the player's genocide runs/routes, as for when they are considered females or males or even have any gender decided for them, well I don't have a problem with that, as long as they don't get into the Psycho gacha mode I don't have a problem unless they are explained to be influenced by some type/sort of corruption
@@myerscoded I mean no one had any problems after that Camilla Cuevis or the creator of Underverse decided to make them male's so you'd get my point
@@myerscoded isnt that something that a kid thought chara did and then the whole fandom decided to believe that?
Wait dusttale has a comic?
I feel I need inform you that Canon Chara was never under control by Player. Frisk is a "vessel" for Player. Hence, they control Frisk rather than Chara. Chara is spectator with specific ability that's only effective against the "Puppeteer". In first Genocide route, Player unintentionally gave Chara another view of point and Chara learned to forgive rather than hold grudge against humans who haven't anything bad to monsters but only to the humans that has intent of harming monsters. On second Genocide route, Chara would then fail to understand why would the puppeteer prefer to repeat the action.
"Since you were in control?" Is a mock line from Chara. All actions made are on Player rather than Chara's and they is able to "Erase" timeline. In another term, they can terminate Player from accessing the timeline. Which forces them move to different timeline.
Thank you for reading my essay.
im not very into undertale anymore but this is cool 👍 thank u for the info
@@myerscoded no problem mate!
You don’t age when you’re dead so Chara still isn’t 40. They’re still a child
I think the creator mean, that chara could have been 40 years old since chara died hundred or thousand years ago
i disagree; you are using this.. twisted.. notion of a ghost being somehow tied to their dead body and thus not developing at all; that is not true or accurate. a spirit can still age and develop even without a body, and unless you have actual evidence backing up a claim against what i have spoken, i will stick firmly by that; if i died at 12 for example and continued to exist as a spirit for 24 more years i would consider myself 36 years old, not 12, regardless of what you think i should be
@@chronred8190 Now that I think about it, I guess it’s really just a matter of interpretation. Some people would say they still age, others probably wouldn’t.
0:50 Yes, people say Chara is still a child while people still call dead souls hundred or thousand year old ghosts
At qpproximately 1:13 a hole was produced into the fourth wall and all the realism promptly leaked out of the video from there.
Damn, I watch these videos too much. Now I'm going to suffer even more while trying to beat genocide run because I'll know that I'm the bad person, and nobody else is bad. Poor Chara and Frisk, I'm sorry.
u just gonna pull thru it, i’ve beaten it two times, and i still feel guilty about it, but i like to remind myself that they’re still pixels on a screen
@@myerscoded They might even be pixels on a screen....but.... *who says you're in control?*
1:27 i mean......you really didn't care that much when the player killed everyone, tbh, you were kinda just chilling until the ending
they were taught by player that it was okay lol
@@myerscoded yeah, but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't feel anything for it
I don't see how being taught that killing is ok makes someone not care for the death of a beloved one
Good Vid!
thank u !! :)
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And canon chars is in the shadow realm now
Chara looks like they have nothing coming in there mind when there doing nothing
they* they canonically use they/it :-)
@@myerscoded lol right srry i was raging so much bc of fanon chara
@@myerscoded imma correct it :>
I literally know that canon chara sees the player kills monsters and yea i think chara is good person im saying person since they are non binary/genderless
THEY SAID IT
me; *Reading comments*
The comments im looking at and what they are talking about: LORE UNDERTALE NETURAUL RUN GENOCIDE RUN PACIFIST RUN LORE UNDERTALE NETURAUL RUN GENOCIDE RUN PACIFIST RUN
(Thats all I'm seeing I'm being honest ;-;)
And Fanon Chara is a ghost. Not a demon
fanon chara is usually perceived as evil when they are in fact not. which is why i designed them like that
non-binary canon this is not canon either because if the person is pronounced with they does not necessarily mean non-binary. Being characters whose gender is not specific, we can somehow choose the gender they have, but in public we use them/them.
isnt chara 1000 years old?
ive always believe they’re somewhere between 50-100, but i don’t know, there’s some stuff i don’t specifically look for
@@myerscoded so chara is 1000 years old?
@@nemnem2342 ..that’s not..ok
@@nemnem2342 that’s not what i said, it’s not really confirmed what age they are, unless it is, i don’t rlly look for ages
@@myerscoded nah im pretty sure chara is atleast 1000 years old. if not then 100 because they're dead
Chara deleted Chara
Canonically non-binary?
yup! or at least agender, canonically used they/it
Didnt know chara was cannonically non-binary, toby fox confirmed it or smth? Dont remember chara getting called by any pronouses in the game so yh
"I never killed anybody. Neither did Frisk"
Ahh, so the one who freed monsters is Frisk, and the one who commited a genocide is the player? Why not thank player for freeing monsters, if Frisk is 24/7 a puppet?
The player doesn’t do it out of good or evil.
We do it because we *can*
Because we want to complete everything
Like Sans says.
“Not out of any desire or good or evil”
“But because you can.”
“And because you can,you *have* too.”
When we play a pacfist route we let go of our control of Frisk and let them be their own person.
In the Genocide route they are our body we use to kill, emotionless,and creepy,as stated by multiple characters in the genocide route,as Chara slowly but surely takes control as you feed them the LV you are gaining by killing everyone.
@@jjcooldude9700 i still would never accept the theory that Player is present, even if your words make perfect sense. Sorry
@@sati_the_swapshit
I respect your opinion.
And I can see why.
Although the evidence is there,with Flowey’s post Pacfist dialogue,Chara’s dialogue,and frisk speaking/moving without your input even on the pacfist route.
Standing up to omega Flowey.
Asking Asgore to be their dad whole talking to Gerson on post pacfist.
Disliking soda.
Not liking toys.
Flowey and Chara referring to you as “you” and the red flag that represents all of the soul colors calling it “you” instead of “determination”
“With your guidance,I realized the purpose of my reincarnation.”
“Power.”
“You and me are not the same,are we?”
“There is a reason you continue to recreate this world.”
“There is a reason you continue to destroy it.”
“You.”
“You are wrecked with a perverted sentimentality.”
“YOU still have the power to reset everything.”
“Just let Frisk go.”
“Let them live their life.”
But I suppose it never is outright stated.
And the Frisk moving on their own could just be to move the plot along/coincidences.
@@jjcooldude9700 wow... that's a lot. Maybe I'll rethink it all
@@sati_the_swapshit I apologize if I came off as rude.
That is not what I intended.
But thank you.